A Strange World: The Strength of Empires [OOC | Closed]

[The GAmeTopians]

Oh, also, Game and others - remember that Slaves explicitly double resources from one Quarter, not Food or Science or Industry or anything like that. They're great for mining ore, or harvesting cotton, but not for farming and research.

Oh, aight. Will fix growth count when I have time to get on an actual computer.


The main thing that made the Hierarchy as overpowered as it became was the massive tech advantage in the first era jump.

[Holy Tedalonia]

Give them events that put the nation into great peril like everyone else.

The issue I see is that there are to little "great powers", two to be exact. While everyone else is stuck a tier one, only capable of dealing with the threats in front of them.

Tier 1: Dominion, Varra, Serrith, etc

Tier 2: Fastaqui, Hiearchy

I don't think Fastaqui and the Hierarchy can really be compared at all. The Hierarchy has almost 100 pop between all her cities, and Fastaqui has only 23 pop and half as many cities.

The Hierarchy's only contender was wiped out by a series unfortunate events. And I should note that I believe Serrith was around for about as long as the Hierarchy, even if it was an NPC for a short while.

What decides the tiers is more so if one can extend its influence beyond its borders. Fastaqui has a reputation to helping out her neighbors, as for the Hiearchy... well its the Hiearchy...

Serriths kinda a mess right now also thanks to Firstborn, Midnight, and a assortment of things.

Guess Midnight counts as tier 2 also.

[G-Tech Corporation]

I don't think Fastaqui and the Hierarchy can really be compared at all. The Hierarchy has almost 100 pop between all her cities, and Fastaqui has only 23 pop and half as many cities.

The Hierarchy's only contender was wiped out by a series unfortunate events. And I should note that I believe Serrith was around for about as long as the Hierarchy, even if it was an NPC for a short while.

What decides the tiers is more so if one can extend its influence beyond its borders. Fastaqui has a reputation to helping out her neighbors, as for the Hiearchy... well its the Hiearchy...

Mainly because a non-isolationist Hierarchy would be no fun for the new people who have spawned nearby

[Novas Arcanum]

Seriously I think the game would be better, but that's just me ignore me if you like but that's my opinion.

How would you go about nerfing the Hierarchy? She's a large civilization, sure, but that's largely because of the length of her existence.

Look at real life great empires and what made them kick the bucket.

[G-Tech Corporation]

How would you go about nerfing the Hierarchy? She's a large civilization, sure, but that's largely because of the length of her existence.

Look at real life great empires and what made them kick the bucket.

Hm yes. But we're really just at the start of the age of empires - it has scarce been a few generations since the Hierarchy only composed a single city. The inertia collapse effects wouldn't really make sense to implement in this timescale.

[Olthenia]

What I'd love to know is the location of the Midnight Empire's capital. That damn emperor of theirs has struck terror into all who live along the shores of the Mirror Sea, and yet his home remains a place of myth and conjecture.

The Many Mothers would like a word with him. Several mean, pointed ones, to be precise.

[Novas Arcanum]

Honestly I think it would be fun to see the Hiearchy break up into multiple states and see the ensuing chaos.Hell I wouldn't even benefit from it but it would liven up western politics.

I'm just picking on the Hierarchy due to how unusually overpowered they are.

[The Empire of Tau]

Well, we are nearing Year 30. G-tech, any ETA on a new era?

[G-Tech Corporation]

Well, we are nearing Year 30. G-tech, any ETA on a new era?

Right now I'm mainly waiting on expansion from folks - so that we are more nearly in an Age of Empires than the Age of City-States.

Hmm. Should probably add some more overcrowding mechanics and such.

[Ralnis]

Don't mind me, I'm not really a threat now that I'm just two guys.

[The Empire of Tau]

I don't understand how settlers work.

[G-Tech Corporation]

I don't understand how settlers work.

You merely invest some Food and cash into training them, then they're built. They cost quite a bit of upkeep, but can either be used for exploring nearby regions for additional cash, or moving to explored regions and establishing new settlements.

In your case, since you only have Xcotl, you can train a Settler for merely 10 Food and 20 Wealth. They then eat 5 Food every turn in upkeep, and cost 15 Wealth per Exploration, but can be expended at any time to create a settlement with 1 Population and a new Government District in an unclaimed region.

[The Empire of Tau]

I guess I'll make a city where the Giant Sand Worms are. I gonna get myself some of that spice.

[G-Tech Corporation]

I guess I'll make a city where the Giant Sand Worms are. I gonna get myself some of that spice.

So you're headed off to overrun the Folk of Orleans?

[Ralnis]

So how many people can I recruit and convert to vampires?

[Olthenia]

I don't understand how settlers work.

You merely invest some Food and cash into training them, then they're built. They cost quite a bit of upkeep, but can either be used for exploring nearby regions for additional cash, or moving to explored regions and establishing new settlements.

In your case, since you only have Xcotl, you can train a Settler for merely 10 Food and 20 Wealth. They then eat 5 Food every turn in upkeep, and cost 15 Wealth per Exploration, but can be expended at any time to create a settlement with 1 Population and a new Government District in an unclaimed region.

In Fastaqui's case, the price of a Settler would be 30 Food and 20 Wealth, correct?

[G-Tech Corporation]

You merely invest some Food and cash into training them, then they're built. They cost quite a bit of upkeep, but can either be used for exploring nearby regions for additional cash, or moving to explored regions and establishing new settlements.

In your case, since you only have Xcotl, you can train a Settler for merely 10 Food and 20 Wealth. They then eat 5 Food every turn in upkeep, and cost 15 Wealth per Exploration, but can be expended at any time to create a settlement with 1 Population and a new Government District in an unclaimed region.

In Fastaqui's case, the price of a Settler would be 30 Food and 20 Wealth, correct?

Indeed so - though, unless I miss my guess, Ge'en was established within the last 10 years, so you're still on that cooldown.

[The Empire of Tau]

I guess I'll make a city where the Giant Sand Worms are. I gonna get myself some of that spice.

So you're headed off to overrun the Folk of Orleans?

The Northeast is taken?

[Ralnis]

So if I manage to get the majority of the government's leadership can I pull a grey emmerence and take over said country? Like the vampires have a shadow empire of interwoven countries that pay homage to them?

[G-Tech Corporation]

So you're headed off to overrun the Folk of Orleans?

The Northeast is taken?

I'm afraid so - 'tis the domain of the Wyrm-Riders of Orleans now.

[The Empire of Tau]

The Northeast is taken?

I'm afraid so - 'tis the domain of the Wyrm-Riders of Orleans now.

How about North?

[Ralnis]

I'm afraid so - 'tis the domain of the Wyrm-Riders of Orleans now.

How about North?

That's opened unless the Freehold expanded.

[G-Tech Corporation]

How about North?

That's opened unless the Freehold expanded.

+1

[The Empire of Tau]

That's opened unless the Freehold expanded.

+1

Did they?

[G-Tech Corporation]

+1

Did they?

Oh, no. I was confirming Ralnis' assertion that it was open.