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2020: An Alt-Future RP [OOC]

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Demorvian
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2020: An Alt-Future RP [OOC]

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Politics is not a game, but a serious business.
- Winston Churchill



OP: Demorvian
CO-OP: Duestchstien



Introduction

Welcome to 2020: An Alt-Future RP. The lore behind this RP is basically that a serious of coups, civil wars and collapses in the 1990s have significantly shifted the geopolitical stage. The USA and USSR have both collapsed, while some ideologies reach unprecedented popularity in some places. The last of these conflicts would end in 2018. By then, over 40 million people had died. So, to show the full history, here's a timeline of events.



Timeline


1992: The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, as well as Yugoslavia have collapsed by now. The cold war has ended. While many in the United States celebrated, others are scheming. That years US election had seen various far-right, far-left, and separatist parties gain up to 100 electoral votes across the US. Bill Clinton manages to win the elections by only around 55 electoral votes.

1993: Bill Clinton is now President of the United States. Things only get worse during his presidency. Hurricane Andrew devastates Florida, the world trade center is bombed, and the branch davidian compound in Waco, Texas is seized by the FBI. The Waco siege in particular causes citizens to start claiming that the federal government is starting to violate American Freedoms. Militias start popping up across the Southern States. Racial tensions within the nation are also growing. Meanwhile on the other side of the Pacific. The Communist Party of China is starting to split between moderates and hardliners.

1994: More militias pop up across the US. Both the US and Canadian governments start to be concerned about the growing tension and hatred across the US. More Americans are starting to go against the federal government. China also faces political tension as a new wave of riots and protests cause martial law to be declared in Beijing and Shanghai. Quebec is starting to push for complete independence from Canada. Apartheid ends in South Africa.

1995: The Oklahoma City bombing causes the government to begin persecuting militia groups across the US. An executive order repeals the second amendment. October is the breaking point for the US and Canada as the Confederate States of America, Quebec, California, and Cascadia declare independence. The Second American Civil War begins. All US troops are forced to head back to the US. Hardliners successfully take full control of China, inciting mass protests in the process.

1996: North Korea declares war on South Korea, taking advantage of the lack of US troops. China sides with North Korea while Japan sides with South Korea. A Communist coup occurs in Germany, resulting in the creation of the Germanic Socialist Union. The GSU declares war on the Low Countries, France, Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Austria, Czechia, Slovakia, Lithuania, and Poland. The UK declares war on the GSU. 3 New factions enter the Second American Civil War. The United Socialist States of America, The Republic of Nevada, and The White American Commonwealth. Mexico erupts in to civil war as drug cartels and several radical movements declare war on the Mexican government. California annexes the Baja peninsula.

1997: India and China both enter civil wars. The People's Republic of Dravidia declares independence from India. East Turkestan, Tibet, Inner Mongolia, and Manchuria declare independence from China. Taiwan declares war on China. The Second Korean war had already ended in North Korean victory as well as Japan surrendering. The DPRK invades Manchuria. Alaska declares independence from the US. Hawaii has joined California. Germany has conquered the Low Countries, Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Austria, Czechia, and Slovakia. A fascist coup occurs in Italy. The new fascist Italy declares war on the GSU. Poland is on the verge of surrendering. Britain keeps Hong Kong. Pakistan's economy collapses.

1998: Poland surrenders to Germany. Canada has taken over Michigan in order to create a refugee zone for Americans migrating to Canada. The US government prepares to evacuate to Puerto Rico. All States except for Virgina, West Virginia, Maryland, and Delaware have fallen. Most of the US armed forces have surrendered. The GSU have reached the outskirts of Paris. The Italian army has kept the Germans at bay through the alps. Manchuria has been annexed by the DPRK. China has completely collapsed. The People's Liberation Army establishes a military junta out of Beijing. Ireland enters a civil war between the Republic and a Communist uprising. The UK splits Ireland with the Communists.

1999: The Federal Government surrenders, ending the Second American Civil War. Peace agreements are also in the works in Europe and China. The Indian civil war has entered a stalemate. The Mexican civil war rages on.

2000: 3 treaties are signed. The Treaty of Las Vegas, The Treaty of Bordeaux, and The Treaty of Chonqing. California, Alaska, Cascadia, The CSA, The USSA, The HAC, Quebec, and Alaska gain independence. Canada gains Michigan. The federal government is exiled to Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands. In Europe, Germany gains all pre-1914 borders, Austria, Liechtenstein, and German-Speaking areas of Switzerland. France is split between a Democratic West, and a Communist East. Communist puppets are also created in Czechoslovakia, Benelux, and Poland. Italy gains Italian-Speaking areas of Switzerland. In Asia, Mongolia annexes Inner Mongolia. Taiwan annexes Hainan, Guangdong, and Fujian. Tibet and East Turkestan gain independence. China is now under a military dictatorship. Putin has taken power in Russia.

2001: The Indian civil war ends in the division of India between Communist Dravidia and Democratic India. Al-Qaeda carries out a terrorist attack against the world trade center in New York City, part of the White American Commonwealth.

2005: The Mexican civil war ends after the Mexican army gained control of Mexico City. They created a military junta, just like in China. California does keep the Baja peninsula. Tensions start to rise between the CSA and the USSA over parts of Southern Nebraska.

2011: A series of revolutions occur across the Arab World, resulting in the toppling of regimes and in the case of Syria and Yemen, complete civil war. Iraq under Saddam Hussein launches an incursion into Syria to both stabilize the region, and to gain power for Iraq as a whole. A devastating earthquake and tsunami strike Japan, resulting in major damage to life and property.

2014: The Russian Federation under Vladimir Putin invades Ukraine and Belarus. The Germanic Socialist Union declares war on Russia, sparking the Eastern War. It's mostly the GSU and it's puppets against Russia.

2018: The Communist Party of the USSA begins a series of purges, as well a 'Social Revolution', which is similar to the Chinese Cultural Revolution. Tensions between the CSA and the USSA continue to heat up. The only thing stopping a war is mutually assured destruction by thermonuclear warfare. The first Olympics since the 1990s are held in Vladivostok. The Eastern War ends in a stalemate and armistice.

2020: It is now 2020. Japan wants revenge on the DPRK. China wants to take back its former lands. Tensions in the former US are rising. The rest of Europe hates the GSU and its puppet states. The Irish Soviet State starts to fund rebels to take over the rest of Ireland. A World War seems inevitable. But the question is, who will fire the first shot?



New and Important Nations



North America

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The Confederate States of America

Territory:
Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Louisiana, Arkansas, Missouri, Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, The Carolinas, and The Virginias

Capital:
Austin, Texas

Ideology:
Nationalistic Constitutional Republic

Ruling Force:
The Republican Party

Leader:
Jeb Bush

Allies:
The Houston Defence Pact

Anthem


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The United Socialist States of America

Territory:
Wisconsin, Iowa, Minnesota, The Dakotas, Nebraska, Wyoming, Montana, and Idaho.

Capital:
Des Moines, Iowa

Ideology:
Socialist Dictatorship

Ruling Force:
The Communist Party of The United Socialist States of America

Leader:
Joe Sims

Alliance:
The World Internationale

Anthem


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The White American Commonwealth

Territory:
New England, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Maryland, and Delaware

Capital:
Boston, Massachusetts

Ideology:
Neo-Nazi Dictatorship

Ruling Force:
The American National Socialist Movement

Leader:
Burt Colucci

Alliance:
None

Anthem


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The Commonwealth of Canada

Territory:
Canada (Minus Quebec and British Columbia) and Michigan

Capital:
Ottawa

Ideology:
Parliamentary Democracy

Ruling Force:
The Liberal Party

Leader:
Justin Trudeau

Alliance:
The Europact

Anthem


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The Union of Cascadia

Territory:
Oregon, Washington, and British Columbia

Capital:
Olympia, Washington

Ideology:
Eco-Democratic Socialism

Ruling Force:
The Green Party of Cascadia

Leader:
Jill Stein

Alliance:
The Pacific Rim Alliance

Anthem


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The Greater California Republic/La Gran República De California

Territory:
California, Baja Peninsula, Hawaii, Guam, and Northern Mariana Islands

Capital:
Sacramento, California

Ideology:
Liberal Democratic Republic

Ruling Force:
The Democratic Party of California

Leader:
Gavin Newsom

Alliance:
The Houston Defence Pact

Anthem


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The United States of America/Los Estados Unidos de América

Territory:
Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands

Capital:
San Juan, Puerto Rico

Ideology:
Military Junta

Ruling Force:
The Puerto Rico National Guard

Leader:
Pedro Pierluisi

Alliance:
None

Anthem




Europe

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The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Territory:
Great Britain and Northern 2/3 of Ireland

Capital:
London

Ideology:
Constitutional Monarchy

Ruling Force:
The Conservative Party

Leader:
Boris Johnson

Alliance:
The Europact

Anthem


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The Irish Soviet State/Stát Sóivéadach na hÉireann

Territory:
The southern 1/3 of Ireland

Capital:
Cork

Ideology:
Marxist-Leninist Dictatorship

Ruling Force:
The Communist Party of Ireland

Leader:
Sean Browne

Alliance:
The World Internationale

Anthem


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The Germanic Socialist Union/Die Deutsche Sozialistische Union

Territory:
Germany's Pre-1914 borders in Europe, Austria, Liechtenstein, and German-Speaking areas of Switzerland

Capital:
Berlin

Ideology:
Radical Marxism-Leninism

Ruling Force:
The Worker's Unity Party of Germany

Leader:
Patrik Kobele

Alliance:
The World Internationale

Anthem


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The New Social Republic of Italy/La Nuova Repubblica Sociale d'Italia

Territory:
Italy and Italian-Speaking areas of Switzerland

Capital:
Rome

Ideology:
Mussolini-styled Fascism

Ruling Force:
The New Italian Social Party

Leader:
Carlo Gariglio

Alliance:
The Europact

Anthem


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The Sixth French Republic/La sixième république française

Territory:
France (Minus Hautes-de-France, Ile-de-France, Grand Est, and Bourgogne)

Capital:
Bordeaux

Ideology:
Nationalistic Conservatism

Ruling Force:
National Rally

Leader:
Marine Le Pen

Alliance:
The Europact

Anthem


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The Socialist Worker's Republic of France/République socialiste ouvrière française

Territory:
Hautes-de-France, Ile-de-France, Grand Est, Bourgogne, and French-speaking areas of Switzerland

Capital:
Paris

Ideology:
Radical Socialism

Ruling Force:
The French Communist Party

Leader:
Fabien Roussel

Alliance:
The World Internationale

Anthem


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The Socialist Federation of Poland-Lithuania/Socjalistyczna Federacja Polska-Litwa

Territory:
Poland (minus the land taken by Germany), Western Belarus, Western Ukraine, and Lithuania

Capital:
Warsaw

Ideology:
Federative Titoism

Ruling Force:
The Socialist Party of Poland-Lithuania

Leader:
Krzystof Szwej

Alliance:
The World Internationale

Anthem


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The Russian Federation/Российская Федерация

Territory:
Russia, Eastern Belarus, and Eastern Ukraine

Capital:
Moscow

Ideology:
Nationalist Conservatism

Ruling Force:
United Russia

Leader:
Vladimir Putin

Alliance:
The Collective Security Treaty Organization

Anthem




Asia

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The People's Republic of Dravidia/திராவிட மக்கள் குடியரசு

Territory:
Southern India

Capital:
Chennai

Ideology:
Marxist-Leninist Dictatorship

Ruling Force:
The Communist Party of India

Leader:
Doraisamy Raja

Alliance:
The World Internationale

Anthem


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The Republic of Taiwan/台湾共和国

Territory:
Taiwan, Hainan, Fujian, and Guangdong

Capital:
Taipei

Ideology:
Conservative Democracy

Ruling Force:
The Democratic Progressive Party

Leader:
Tsai Ing-wen

Alliance:
The Pacific Rim Alliance

Anthem


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The United Military Zones of China/中国联合军区

Territory:
China (minus Manchuria, Inner Mongolia, East Turkestan, Tibet, Guangdong, Hainan, and Fujian)

Capital:
Beijing

Ideology:
Military Junta

Ruling Force:
The People's Liberation Army

Leader:
Xu Qiliang

Alliance:
None

Anthem


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The Democratic People's Republic of Korea/조선 민주주의 인민 공화국

Territory:
Korea and Manchuria

Capital:
Pyongyang

Ideology:
Juche

Ruling Force:
The Worker's Party of Korea

Leader:
Kim Jong Un

Alliance:
None

Anthem





Alliances


The Houston Defence Pact

The Confederacy
Nevada
California
Belize
The Dominican Republic
Haiti


The World Internationale

The USSA
East France
South Ireland
Germany
Benelux
Czechoslovakia
Poland-Lithuania
Dravidia


The Pacific Rim Alliance

Cascadia
Taiwan
Japan
Chile
Peru
Ecuador


The Europact

Canada
Great Britain
West France
Italy
Portugal
Greece
Israel
Australia
New Zealand


The Collective Security Treaty Organization

Russia
Latvia
Estonia
Moldova
Romania
Georgia
Armenia
Kazakhstan
Uzbekistan
Mongolia
Alaska
Kyrgyzstan
Tajikistan


ASEAN & The Arab league

Same as OTL


Permanent Members of the U.N. Security Council

The Confederate States of America
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and North Ireland
The Sixth French Republic
The Russian Federation
The Federative Republic of Brazil




RULES


• Don't spam, flame, troll, trollbait, or flamebait. Pretty self-explanatory.
• Godmodding and Metagaming.
• War is not the only thing you can do. There's economics, internal politics, alliance-building, and other things besides war and annexation.
• Be realistic. You can't bring back the Mongol Empire. Italy can't conquer Germany in a day. And Bolivia can't conquer Africa.
• If a country was not affected by the chaos in the 1990s, leave it the way it is in OTL.
• Terrible grammar will not be tolerated. You will be banned on the spot for had grammar.
• All posts must be at least three paragraphs long, and multiple things must be done per post.
• Time scale is one page is equal to 3 months.
• Act like the party in charge of your nation. Trudeau won't go communist. And Communist Germany won't support the CSTO.
• Read the timeline before make an application.
• Reservations last 72 hours unless I have given permission for an extension.
• Don't post out of character stuff on the IC.
• What I say is law here. OP rules with an iron fist.
• The same applies for the CO-OP(s).
• Follow any other NS rules.




Applications and Reservations


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Reservation:

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Roster


Accepted:
The Republic of The Maritimes - Deustchstien
The Kingdom of Norway - Delta Archipelago
The Democratic People's Republic of Korea - The Archipelago Territory
The White American Commonwealth - The Palmetto
The United Socialist States of America - Greater Redosia
The Confederate States of America - American Pere Housh
The Greater California Republic - Intermountain States
The United States of America - Fascist Republic of Bermuda
The Bohemian Republic of The Virgin Islands - Military Lands of the Scottish People
The United States of Mexico - Alaroma
The Republic of Alaska - Flecatya
The Union of Cascadia - Azlaake
The United Regions of The Philippine Islands - Europa Undivided


Reserved:
The Hellenic Republic - Nea Byzantia
The Union of South Africa - Electic
The Socialist Worker's Republic of France - Trapoletanius
The Quebecois Republic - Cappuccina
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Demorvian
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Postby Demorvian » Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:53 pm

This RP is now open!

Map Maker needed

Co-op needed

IC will be up when at least 4 players join
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New yugoslavaia
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:58 am

So, what about the Southern Hemisphere? How are Africa, South America and Oceania doing?
Yugoslavia's back baby...

How the hell did this happen?
Well...we don't actually know. Just sort of happened one day.
Is it a reunited Yugoslavia in the 21st century? Is a rebel colony world in the far future? Is it a race of cyborg neo-life at war with any assimilating organisms they come across in the far far future? Who knows, who cares?
New Yugoslavia just is.

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Demorvian
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Postby Demorvian » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:04 am

New yugoslavaia wrote:So, what about the Southern Hemisphere? How are Africa, South America and Oceania doing?

Relatively the same as in OTL
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The United States Government,and the rabies virus is a Kyle that overdoses on caffeine,and the rabies virus is not only about the rabies virus from this align with hydroelectric or working trebuchet against your have been flooded with vegetation align with Russia and Japan and internet explorer is the beginning of man's decline for you to find yourself in.

Trump 2020
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Abercontin-Jereaux
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Founded: May 15, 2019
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Postby Abercontin-Jereaux » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:20 am

Sad that South Korea doesn't exist...
Anyways, I want to make an Iberian Union that consists of Iberia, Andorra and Morroco excluding Western Sahara.

NS Name: Abercontin-Jereaux

Formal Nation Name: The Republic of the Iberian Union and Morroco

Informal Nation Name: Iberian Union, IU

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Joushiki Nante Iranai
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Postby Joushiki Nante Iranai » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:51 am

I'm interested. Would reserve but I'm away from NS from tomorrow until the end of the month.

Also rip, I was sniped of Spain.
Poland-Lithuania, but it's partly Japanese, Spanish and English, is socialist as well as monarchist, had colonial holdings, all of which survived the partitions, but doesn't control its original land.
THE INDEPENDENT MONARCHY OF JOUSHIKI NANTE IRANAI
FOUNDED 13TH JANUARY 2018 - "FOR THE PEOPLE, FOR THE NATION"
DELEGATE OF THE UNIVERSAL PACT - ELECTED 16TH MARCH 2019

A 14 Power Civilisation, according to this index.
This nation does NOT reflect my views.

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Duestchstien
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Postby Duestchstien » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:52 am

NS Name: Duestchstien
Formal Nation Name: Heavenly State of Tibet
Informal Nation Name: Tibet
Capital: Lhasa (Executive), Kathmandu (Legislative), Thimpfu (Judicial)
Population: 35.18 Million
Flag:
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Coat of Arms:
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Ideology: Pragmatic Thinking, Market Solutions, Moderate Government
Current Leader: (Ceremonial) 14th Dalai Llama; (De Facto) Grand Prince Jigme Khesar Namgyel Wangchuck
Ruling Political Force/Party: First Himalaya Congress
Next Election (If some form of democracy): Local Elections vary according to federal edict
Alliance: N/A

Armed Forces Name: Tibetan Defense Force
Leader of Armed Forces: Grand Prince Jigme Khesar Namgyel Wangchuck
Land Army Name and Size: Tibetan Ground Forces
Navy Name and Size: N/A
Air Force Name and Size: Tibetan Air Forces
Other Military Branches: Tibetan Border Guard, Tibetan Imperial Guard

Government Structure(At least one paragraph long): The Government resides in 3 separate capitals. As the seat of the Executive Branch the city of Lhasa houses many government offices. The Elected Legislative branch is located in Kathmandu and the Judicial Branch in Thimpfu. Each of these cities is also the capital of their respective Commonwealths. The Executive Branch is ceremonially lead by the Dalai Llama, however his role is primarily ceremonial, as he focuses on his religious roles. The true power rests with the Grand Prince, the Grand Prince appoints a cabinet of the many ministers which run the nations ministries. These ministries include the Defense, Safety and Rescue, Agriculture and Food, Health, Education, Foreign Affairs, Economics and Development, Interior and Environment, Transportation, Entertainment and Culture, Infrastructure, The Treasury, and The Attorney General. The Tibetan Legislature is elected every 5 years, and writes laws, acts, and amendments for the nation. It is overseen by the Grand Prince. The Judicial System consists of the Court of Llama, the Commonwealth Courts, and Local Municipal Courts. The Judges on the Court of Llama are appointed for life and are the highest court of appeal, they consist of 7 judges. The lower courts consist of many hired judges. The Government carefully manages its resources to provide Public Education and Health Care to its citizens which are administered by the executive branch.
Economic Policies: The Government runs the nations Transport Infrastructure, Communication Infrastructure, and Healthcare Infrastructure. Economic Programs include an Agro-Dealer Network, Government Subsidies in the Technology and Logistics Industries, and Startup Programs. Other than that the government only intervenes when necessary to halt downturns, it follows policies of market solutions provided they follow safety and environmental regulations.
Foreign Relations: N/A
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The Palmetto
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Postby The Palmetto » Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:55 am

So, why did the USA suddenly implode at the height of their power? There’s not really an explanation given for it, all you said is that all of a sudden the USA is more politically diverse, militias form, and magic civil war. Same with China, with regions magically declaring independence, even though their regional governments are under strict government control, and places like Manchuria aren’t even ethnically/culturally distinct to want independence. Same goes for Germany, which suddenly has a Trotskyite coup (even though Trotskyism isn’t popular at all in Germany, and their military wasn’t politically active) and invades all of their neighbors and wins despite having a weaker military than France IRL.

I don’t mean to be rude, but it seems like you haphazardly chose a bunch of random things to add to your world without thinking much about it. It’s hard to get invested into the world of a RP when you stretch suspension of disbelief this far. I understand you presumably want a chaotic or unique world, but in that case I think you should choose a much further back point of divergence.
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Abercontin-Jereaux
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Founded: May 15, 2019
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Postby Abercontin-Jereaux » Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:24 am

Joushiki Nante Iranai wrote:I'm interested. Would reserve but I'm away from NS from tomorrow until the end of the month.

Also rip, I was sniped of Spain.

Lol.
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The Archipelago Territory
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Founded: May 17, 2019
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Postby The Archipelago Territory » Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:27 am

Could I reserve North Korea?
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New yugoslavaia
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Founded: Jun 07, 2018
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:23 am

Wait...did someone just say map maker?


Allow me to introduce myself...
Yugoslavia's back baby...

How the hell did this happen?
Well...we don't actually know. Just sort of happened one day.
Is it a reunited Yugoslavia in the 21st century? Is a rebel colony world in the far future? Is it a race of cyborg neo-life at war with any assimilating organisms they come across in the far far future? Who knows, who cares?
New Yugoslavia just is.

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New yugoslavaia
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:49 am

Image


It's not complete, but it's mostly done.
Yugoslavia's back baby...

How the hell did this happen?
Well...we don't actually know. Just sort of happened one day.
Is it a reunited Yugoslavia in the 21st century? Is a rebel colony world in the far future? Is it a race of cyborg neo-life at war with any assimilating organisms they come across in the far far future? Who knows, who cares?
New Yugoslavia just is.

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Demorvian
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Founded: Apr 09, 2019
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Postby Demorvian » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:10 pm

Abercontin-Jereaux wrote:Sad that South Korea doesn't exist...
Anyways, I want to make an Iberian Union that consists of Iberia, Andorra and Morroco excluding Western Sahara.

NS Name: Abercontin-Jereaux

Formal Nation Name: The Republic of the Iberian Union and Morroco

Informal Nation Name: Iberian Union, IU

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I do plan to have Spain collapse at the beginning of the RP. So Rejected.
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The United States Government,and the rabies virus is a Kyle that overdoses on caffeine,and the rabies virus is not only about the rabies virus from this align with hydroelectric or working trebuchet against your have been flooded with vegetation align with Russia and Japan and internet explorer is the beginning of man's decline for you to find yourself in.

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Demorvian
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Postby Demorvian » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:13 pm

The Archipelago Territory wrote:Could I reserve North Korea?

North Korea owns the entire Korean Peninsula and Manchuria, they are basically just Korea. Also, you have to have a reservation app to get reserved.
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:15 pm

Hey, what do you think of my attempt at a map?

Also, hello again.
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Well...we don't actually know. Just sort of happened one day.
Is it a reunited Yugoslavia in the 21st century? Is a rebel colony world in the far future? Is it a race of cyborg neo-life at war with any assimilating organisms they come across in the far far future? Who knows, who cares?
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Postby Demorvian » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:20 pm

New yugoslavaia wrote:Hey, what do you think of my attempt at a map?

Also, hello again.

I can tell it's not finished in North America. And that the borders overall are somewhat sloppy. But not bad for a first attempt. Keep working on it though.
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:47 pm

Demorvian wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:Hey, what do you think of my attempt at a map?

Also, hello again.

I can tell it's not finished in North America. And that the borders overall are somewhat sloppy. But not bad for a first attempt. Keep working on it though.


Yeah, it might be the map. Or it could be me.
Anyway, I will try with America. Might be a tad tricky.
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How the hell did this happen?
Well...we don't actually know. Just sort of happened one day.
Is it a reunited Yugoslavia in the 21st century? Is a rebel colony world in the far future? Is it a race of cyborg neo-life at war with any assimilating organisms they come across in the far far future? Who knows, who cares?
New Yugoslavia just is.

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Postby The Archipelago Territory » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:53 pm

NS Name: The Archipelago Territory

Formal Nation Name: DPRK

Informal Nation Name: Korea

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Postby Demorvian » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:22 pm

The Archipelago Territory wrote:NS Name: The Archipelago Territory

Formal Nation Name: DPRK

Informal Nation Name: Korea

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Postby Demorvian » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:26 pm

Duestchstien wrote:NS Name: Duestchstien
Formal Nation Name: Heavenly State of Tibet
Informal Nation Name: Tibet
Capital: Lhasa (Executive), Kathmandu (Legislative), Thimpfu (Judicial)
Population: 35.18 Million
Flag:
Coat of Arms:

Ideology: Pragmatic Thinking, Market Solutions, Moderate Government
Current Leader: (Ceremonial) 14th Dalai Llama; (De Facto) Grand Prince Jigme Khesar Namgyel Wangchuck
Ruling Political Force/Party: First Himalaya Congress
Next Election (If some form of democracy): Local Elections vary according to federal edict
Alliance: N/A

Armed Forces Name: Tibetan Defense Force
Leader of Armed Forces: Grand Prince Jigme Khesar Namgyel Wangchuck
Land Army Name and Size: Tibetan Ground Forces
Navy Name and Size: N/A
Air Force Name and Size: Tibetan Air Forces
Other Military Branches: Tibetan Border Guard, Tibetan Imperial Guard

Government Structure(At least one paragraph long): The Government resides in 3 separate capitals. As the seat of the Executive Branch the city of Lhasa houses many government offices. The Elected Legislative branch is located in Kathmandu and the Judicial Branch in Thimpfu. Each of these cities is also the capital of their respective Commonwealths. The Executive Branch is ceremonially lead by the Dalai Llama, however his role is primarily ceremonial, as he focuses on his religious roles. The true power rests with the Grand Prince, the Grand Prince appoints a cabinet of the many ministers which run the nations ministries. These ministries include the Defense, Safety and Rescue, Agriculture and Food, Health, Education, Foreign Affairs, Economics and Development, Interior and Environment, Transportation, Entertainment and Culture, Infrastructure, The Treasury, and The Attorney General. The Tibetan Legislature is elected every 5 years, and writes laws, acts, and amendments for the nation. It is overseen by the Grand Prince. The Judicial System consists of the Court of Llama, the Commonwealth Courts, and Local Municipal Courts. The Judges on the Court of Llama are appointed for life and are the highest court of appeal, they consist of 7 judges. The lower courts consist of many hired judges. The Government carefully manages its resources to provide Public Education and Health Care to its citizens which are administered by the executive branch.
Economic Policies: The Government runs the nations Transport Infrastructure, Communication Infrastructure, and Healthcare Infrastructure. Economic Programs include an Agro-Dealer Network, Government Subsidies in the Technology and Logistics Industries, and Startup Programs. Other than that the government only intervenes when necessary to halt downturns, it follows policies of market solutions provided they follow safety and environmental regulations.
Foreign Relations: N/A
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Postby Kaledoria » Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:16 am

So, Germany has "Radical Totalitarian Trotskyism" ... What next, Liberal Stalinism? Planed Smithism? Authoritarian Anarcho-Syndicalism?

Among the big 4 names of Communism: Marx, Lenin, Stalin and Trotzki, Marx and Trotzki are radical Anti-Authoritarians, just one step more organized then Anarcho-Syndicalism. Lenin was more authoritarian then the two and Stalin was at the end of the scale outright totalitarian. They tried to kill each other over those differences.
You could coin "Totalitarian Leninism" although that raises the question why you are not calling it Stalinism (or Maoism) but one could answer that by saying that Lenin's ideas about internationalism, that also differed from Stalin's ideas of "Sovjet only Communism" are very central to the German Communist branch of this timeline and therefor they regard themselves more of a Leninist then a Stalinist although by the degree of political freedom, they are certainly even more totalitarian.
Totalitarian Trotskyism however is an oxymoron.

And since Palmetto already said, that Trotzki was not particularly popular in Germany: Yes, Even if they would agree with everything Trotzi thought, they would have called it Marxism or Leninism.
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NS Name:American Pere Housh

Formal Nation Name:Confederate States of America

Informal Nation Name:CSA

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Government Type: Militaristic Republic
Leader: President Alexander Jones
Prime Minister: Isabella Stuart-Jones
Secretary of Defense: Hitomi Izumi
Secretary of State: Eliza 'Vanny' Cortez
Time: 2023
Population: MT-450 million
Territory: All of North America, The Islands of the Caribbean and the Philippines

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Postby New yugoslavaia » Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:15 am

The Palmetto wrote:So, why did the USA suddenly implode at the height of their power? There’s not really an explanation given for it, all you said is that all of a sudden the USA is more politically diverse, militias form, and magic civil war. Same with China, with regions magically declaring independence, even though their regional governments are under strict government control, and places like Manchuria aren’t even ethnically/culturally distinct to want independence. Same goes for Germany, which suddenly has a Trotskyite coup (even though Trotskyism isn’t popular at all in Germany, and their military wasn’t politically active) and invades all of their neighbors and wins despite having a weaker military than France IRL.

I don’t mean to be rude, but it seems like you haphazardly chose a bunch of random things to add to your world without thinking much about it. It’s hard to get invested into the world of a RP when you stretch suspension of disbelief this far. I understand you presumably want a chaotic or unique world, but in that case I think you should choose a much further back point of divergence.


I mean, it would probably work better if it was set a bit into the future while following along the original timeline (for the most part...).
At the moment, the US is gradually weakening. A white ethnostate would make more sense in recent times with the rise of the alt-right. Probably the same with the confederacy (but this time with just regular nationalists). Not too sure about the USSA, but that could be a reaction to increasing power of the right (although the US has had a history of being...not too fond of socialism COUGH COUGH FREE HELICOPTER RIDES COUGH). Guess the eco state could work with increasing public concern with climate change.
Concerning Germany...yeah, I didn't really know much about Trotsky, his liberal views and Germany's views on him. They could go left wing as yet again a retaliation against the right after seeing what their governments are like. Speaking of the right, Italy already is heading that direction with a right wing and a populist party being in charge. Russia's already quite right wing (why wouldn't they be?). Yeah, not buying Poland. Going red would be the last thing they would do.
Don't know enough about India to comment.
China probably wouldn't collapse like that either. But then again, with Hong Kong...

And that's my thoughts and why I think this should be set in a slightly alterned modern day.
Yugoslavia's back baby...

How the hell did this happen?
Well...we don't actually know. Just sort of happened one day.
Is it a reunited Yugoslavia in the 21st century? Is a rebel colony world in the far future? Is it a race of cyborg neo-life at war with any assimilating organisms they come across in the far far future? Who knows, who cares?
New Yugoslavia just is.

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Postby Delta Archipelago » Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:18 am

Here's an entry:

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NS Name:

Delta Archipelago

Formal Nation Name:

Kingdom of Norway

Informal Nation Name:

Norway

Capital:

Oslo

Flag:

Image


Coat of Arms:

Image


Ideology:

Absolute Monarchism

Current Leader:

Harald V

Ruling Political Force/Party:

Monarchy

Next Election (If some form of democracy):

None

Alliance:

If I can make one: Scandinavian Defense Force

Armed Forces Name:

Royal Norwegian Armed Forces

Leader of Armed Forces:

Haakon Bruun-Hanssen

Land Army Name and Size:

Royal Norwegian Army, 7,900.

Navy Name and Size:

Norwegian Navy, 3,800

Air Force Name and Size:

Norwegian Air Force, 3,500

Other Military Branches:

Norwegian Home Guard, 30,000

Cyber Defense Force, 1,000

Government Structure(At least one paragraph long):

The Norwegian monarch is the monarchical head of state of Norway, which is a constitutional and hereditary monarchy. The Norwegian monarchy can trace its line back to the reign of Harald Fairhair and the previous petty kingdoms which were united to form Norway; it has been in unions with both Sweden and Denmark for long periods.

The present monarch is King Harald V, who has reigned since 17 January 1991, succeeding his father, Olav V. The heir apparent is his only son, Crown Prince Haakon. The crown prince undertakes various public ceremonial functions, as does the king's wife, Queen Sonja. The crown prince also acts as regent in the king's absence. There are several other members of the Royal Family, including the king's daughter, grandchildren and sister. Since the dissolution of the union between Norway and Sweden and the subsequent election of a Danish prince as King Haakon VII in 1905, the reigning royal house of Norway has been a branch of the Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg branch of the House of Oldenburg; originally from Schleswig-Holstein in Germany, the same royal house as the Danish and former Greek royal families. In 1998, the Parliament was dissolved due to high tensions among Communists and Capitalists, which is why Norway became a neutral country. In 2000, they needed to form an alliance with the other Scandinavian countries, which is how the Scandinavian Defense Force came into origin.

The new Constitution of Norway grants important executive powers to the King, unlike the previous. Though the King's Council gets powers invested by the Constitution, the King gets the majority. The king may depose any member of the King's Council, though the King's Council must vote to depose the King for Heir Apparent.

Economic Policies:

The emergence of Norway as an oil-exporting country has raised a number of issues for Norwegian economic policy. There has been concern that much of Norway's human capital investment has been concentrated in petroleum-related industries. Critics have pointed out that Norway's economic structure is highly dependent on natural resources that do not require skilled labor, making economic growth highly vulnerable to fluctuations in the demand and pricing for these natural resources. The Government Pension Fund of Norway is part of several efforts to hedge against dependence on petroleum revenue.

Because of the oil boom since the 1970s, there has been little government incentive to help develop and encourage new industries in the private sector, in contrast to other Nordic countries like Sweden and particularly Finland. However the last decades have started to see some incentive on national and local government levels to encourage formation of new "mainland" industries that are competitive internationally. In addition to aspirations for a high-tech industry, there is growing interest in encouraging small business growth as a source of employment for the future. In 2006, the King formed nine "centers of expertise" to facilitate this business growth. Later in June 2007, the King contributed to the formation of the Oslo Cancer Cluster as a center of expertise, capitalizing on the fact that 80% of cancer research in Norway takes place in proximity to Oslo and that most Norwegian biotechnology companies are focused on cancer.

Foreign Relations:

Sweden -- Friendly, or in Alliance
Denmark -- Friendly, or in Alliance
Iceland -- Friendly, or in Alliance
The World Internationale -- Terrible
The Europact -- Pending
CSTO -- Cordial

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Postby The Palmetto » Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:24 am

New yugoslavaia wrote:
I mean, it would probably work better if it was set a bit into the future while following along the original timeline (for the most part...).
At the moment, the US is gradually weakening. A white ethnostate would make more sense in recent times with the rise of the alt-right. Probably the same with the confederacy (but this time with just regular nationalists). Not too sure about the USSA, but that could be a reaction to increasing power of the right (although the US has had a history of being...not too fond of socialism COUGH COUGH FREE HELICOPTER RIDES COUGH). Guess the eco state could work with increasing public concern with climate change.
Concerning Germany...yeah, I didn't really know much about Trotsky, his liberal views and Germany's views on him. They could go left wing as yet again a retaliation against the right after seeing what their governments are like. Speaking of the right, Italy already is heading that direction with a right wing and a populist party being in charge. Russia's already quite right wing (why wouldn't they be?). Yeah, not buying Poland. Going red would be the last thing they would do.
Don't know enough about India to comment.
China probably wouldn't collapse like that either. But then again, with Hong Kong...

And that's my thoughts and why I think this should be set in a slightly alterned modern day.


The USA's "road to civil war" IRL is greatly exaggerated. Support for a white ethnostate comes from a loud fringe group, and isn't popular in one particular area, so even if it WAS popular, they wouldn't have the ability to make one sense they're scattered across the country. Especially not in the Northeast, which is one of the liberal parts of the country! Leftism is growing more prominent but is more Scandinavian style, not socialist, especially not Stalinist. As a Southerner myself, no, we are not all neo-confederates, and it is a weak ideology here with no chance of ever taking hold again. Trotskyism here is a meme, the OP has contradicted himself with Germany's ideology. Them having a military coup for the ideology makes no sense whatsoever, and IRL there's not really a precedent for countries switching ideology so radically after "seeing what other governments are like." (Nazism in Germany didn't make the USA, UK, or France socialist.) China could have an internal conflict, but it wouldn't be over Hong Kong. Most mainland Chinese are in support of the PRC owning it, and no one is gonna start a civil war to prevent it. Even if there was a civil war, the borders the OP suggested make no sense at all. Countries do not instantly declare independence and then get all their land. Inner Mongolia and Manchuria being independent are just memes, both are Han Chinese with Mongols and Manchus respectively being tiny minorities with no desire for independence.

I believe the OP does not quite have a grasp on the political situation or the time period, or how armed conflict works in the modern day. Countries adopt ideologies at random, civil wars spring up out of nowhere, and wars are started for no reason. (All of this ignores economic relations, too.) No offense meant to you, Demorvian, but I really think you should do some more research before making an RP if you want it to properly last. I'll stop posting in this thread, but I hope you take my advice.
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