For Want of a Nail [OOC/AH/OPEN]

[Nouveau Quebecois]

Cooperation can continue, of course, and I would be for keeping the lore.

Good, good, then "the sacrilegious union of the lily and the crescent" will continue xD

And now to my next question - in real life, just a few decades from now, around 1730 I believe, the Ottomans started their attempts to modernize their army, and of course, they looked towards France for help.

Here I'm starting this a bit earlier, but also with the strict objective of creating a new force that could balance the increased power of the Janissaries. So, in light of that, would France be willing to either let a few Ottoman officers look around their military forces, or perhaps even send a few officers to Constantinople to help with the training of that force?

Sounds good to me. Basic foreign relations building.

[Tracian Empire]

Good, good, then "the sacrilegious union of the lily and the crescent" will continue xD

And now to my next question - in real life, just a few decades from now, around 1730 I believe, the Ottomans started their attempts to modernize their army, and of course, they looked towards France for help.

Here I'm starting this a bit earlier, but also with the strict objective of creating a new force that could balance the increased power of the Janissaries. So, in light of that, would France be willing to either let a few Ottoman officers look around their military forces, or perhaps even send a few officers to Constantinople to help with the training of that force?

Sounds good to me. Basic foreign relations building.

Alright, the Sultan will probably ask for that military mission at the beginning of the IC. If we keep the real life history of Franco-Ottoman relations, we'd both have representatives in each other's capital, and even though French-Ottoman trade would be severely limited by Venice's power in the Mediterranean, the Ottomans would have signed a capitulation with France - so the French would have privileged trading conditions.

And Louis XIV would also be recognized by the Sultan as the protector of Catholics inside the Ottoman Empire.

[Nouveau Quebecois]

Alright, the Sultan will probably ask for that military mission at the beginning of the IC. If we keep the real life history of Franco-Ottoman relations, we'd both have representatives in each other's capital, and even though French-Ottoman trade would be severely limited by Venice's power in the Mediterranean, the Ottomans would have signed a capitulation with France - so the French would have privileged trading conditions.

And Louis XIV would also be recognized by the Sultan as the protector of Catholics inside the Ottoman Empire.

Looking forward to it.

[The V O I D]

Apologies for the delay with the roster and such, but IRL is keeping me busy again this weekend - unfortunately. The IC should be up tomorrow, tho, and I'll be able to look through the apps and roster as well.

Again, apologies for the delay, but unforeseen circumstances make it necessary.

[Destriustan]

For Want of a Nail - Nation Application

Nation Name: Most Serene Republic of Genoa
Flag/Symbols:

Head of State/Head of Government: Doge Alboino Tavella
Government Type: Republic
Population: 580,600
Military Population: 5,800
Territory: Genoa
History:

The Genoa area has been inhabited since the fifth or fourth millennium BC. In ancient times this area was inhabited by Ligures, Greeks and Etruscans. The city cemetery, dating from the 6th and 5th centuries BC, testifies to the occupation of the site by the Greeks, but the fine harbour probably saw use much earlier, perhaps by the Etruscans. In the 5th century BC the first town, or oppidum, was founded at the top of the hill today called Castello (Castle), which is now inside the medieval old town. The ancient Ligurian city was known as Stalia (Σταλìα), referred to in this way by Artemidorus Ephesius and Pomponius Mela; this toponym is possibly preserved in the name of Staglieno, some 3 km (2 mi) from the coast. Ligurian Stalia was overshadowed by the powerful Marseille and Vada Sabatia, near modern Savona. Stalia had an alliance with Rome through a foedus aequum (equal pact) in the course of the Second Punic War (218-201 BC). The Carthaginians accordingly destroyed it in 209 BC. The town was rebuilt and, after the Carthaginian Wars ended in 146 BC, it received municipal rights. The original castrum expanded after that towards the current areas of Santa Maria di Castello and the San Lorenzo promontory. Trades included skins, wood, and honey. Goods were shipped to the mainland, up to major cities like Tortona and Piacenza. An amphitheater was also found there among the archeological remains from the Roman period.
The city's modern name may derive from the Latin word meaning "knee" (genu; plural, genua) but there are other theories. It could derive from the god Janus, because Genoa, like him, has two faces: a face that looks at the sea and another turned to the mountains. Or it could come from the Latin word ianua, also related to the name of the God Janus, and meaning "door" or "passage." Besides that, it may refer to its geographical position at the centre of the Ligurian coastal arch, thus akin to the name of Geneva.[1] The Latin name, oppidum Genua, is recorded by Pliny the Elder (Nat. Hist. 3.48) as part of the Augustean Regio IX Liguria.

After the fall of the Western Roman Empire, the Ostrogoths occupied Genoa. After the Gothic War, the Byzantines made it the seat of their vicar. When the Lombards invaded Italy in 568, Bishop Honoratus of Milan fled and held his seat in Genoa.[2] Pope Gregory the Great was closely connected to these bishops in exile, for example involving himself in the election of Deusdedit.[3] The Lombards, under King Rothari, finally captured Genoa and other Ligurian cities in about 643.[4] In 725 the mortal remains of Augustine of Hippo arrived in Genoa. In 773 the Lombard Kingdom was annexed by the Frankish Empire; the first Carolingian count of Genoa was Ademarus, who was given the title praefectus civitatis Genuensis. Ademarus died in Corsica while fighting against the Saracens. In this period the Roman walls, destroyed by the Lombards, were rebuilt and extended.

For the following several centuries, Genoa was little more than a small centre, slowly building its merchant fleet, which was to become the leading commercial carrier of the Mediterranean Sea. The town was thoroughly sacked and burned in 934–35 by a Fatimid fleet under Ya'qub ibn Ishaq al-Tamimi and possibly even abandoned for a few years.[5] In the 10th century the city, now part of the Marca Januensis was under the Obertenghi family, whose first member was Obertus I. Genoa became one of the first cities in Italy to have some citizenship rights granted by local feudatories
Before 1100, Genoa emerged as an independent city-state, one of a number of Italian city-states established during this period. Nominally, the Holy Roman Emperor was sovereign and the Bishop of Genoa was head of state; however, actual power was wielded by a number of consuls annually elected by popular assembly. Genoa was one of the states known as Repubbliche Marinare along with Venice, Pisa, and Amalfi. Trade, shipbuilding, and banking helped support one of the largest and most powerful navies in the Mediterranean. There is an old saying that says: Genuensis ergo mercator, or "A Genoese therefore a merchant" but the Genoese were skilled sailors and ferocious warriors in addition (see also the Genoese crossbowmen).

In 1098, it is said the ashes of John the Baptist, now the patron saint of the city, arrived in Genoa. The Adorno, Campofregoso, and other smaller merchant families all fought for power in this republic, as the power of the consuls allowed each family faction to gain wealth and power in the city. The Republic of Genoa extended over modern Liguria, Piedmont, Sardinia (see also Pisan-Genoese expeditions to Sardinia), Corsica, and Nice, and had practically complete control of the Tyrrhenian Sea. Through Genoese participation in the Crusades, colonies were established in the Middle East, the Aegean Sea, Sicily, and Northern Africa. The cronista, or chronicler, of the Genoese vicissitudes was Caffaro di Rustico da Caschifellone and the hero and military leader was Guglielmo Embriaco called Testadimaglio meaning "mallet head" (see also Siege of Jerusalem (1099)). Genoese Crusaders brought home a green glass goblet from the Levant (see also Holy Chalice), which the Genoese have long regarded as the Holy Grail. In his Golden Legend, the Archbishop of Genoa, Jacobus de Voragine relates the history of the Holy Grail. Not all of Genoa's merchandise was so innocuous, however, as medieval Genoa became a major player in the slave trade.[6]

The Genoese have a claim to the creation of the rough denim cloth then called "Blue Jean", from which derives the modern name of jeans, used by sailors for work and to cover and protect their goods on the docks from the weather. During the Republic of Genoa, Genoese merchants and sailors exported this cloth throughout Europe. The production of Genoese lace was also notable.
The collapse of the Crusader States was offset by Genoa's alliance with the Byzantine Empire. As Venice's relations with the Byzantines were temporarily disrupted by the Fourth Crusade and its aftermath, Genoa was able to improve its position, taking advantage of the opportunity to expand into the Black Sea and Crimea. Internal feuds between the powerful families, the Grimaldi and Fieschi, the Doria, Spinola and others, caused much disruption, but in general the republic was run much as a business affair.

In 1218–1220 Genoa was served by the Guelph podestà Rambertino Buvalelli, who probably introduced Occitan literature, which was soon to boast such troubadours as Jacme Grils, Lanfranc Cigala and Bonifaci Calvo, to the city. During this time, 1218–1219, a Genoese fleet under Simone Doria with the famous Genoese pirate Alamanno da Costa participated in the Siege of Damietta; about this period we must also remember the Genoese privateer and pirate, Henry, Count of Malta. The alliance between Byzantines and Genoese suffered after the Battle of Settepozzi, admirably described in the Annales ianuenses.

Genoa's political zenith came with its victory over the Republic of Pisa at the naval Battle of Meloria in 1284, and with a temporary victory over its rival, Venice, at the naval Battle of Curzola in 1298 during the Venetian-Genoese Wars. The Genoese navy was on a par with the Venetian navy and both cities had the power to rule the sea. Notable conflicts between Byzantines and Genoese were the Genoese occupation of Rhodes and the Byzantine-Genoese War.

However, this period of prosperity did not last. The Black Death is said to have been imported into Europe in 1347 from the Genoese trading post at Caffa in Crimea on the Black Sea. Following the economic and population collapse that resulted, Genoa adopted the Venetian model of government and was presided over by the Doge of Genoa. The wars with Venice continued, and the War of Chioggia (1378–1381) – during which Genoa almost managed to decisively subdue Venice – ended with Venice's recovery of dominance in the Adriatic. In 1390, Genoa initiated the Barbary Crusade, with help from the French, and laid siege to Mahdia, the Fatimid capital of Ifriqiya.

Though not well-studied, Genoa in the 15th century seems to have been tumultuous. The city had a strong tradition of trading goods from the Levant and its financial expertise was recognised all over Europe. After a period of French domination from 1394 to 1409, Genoa came under the rule of the Visconti of Milan (see also Battle of Ponza). Genoa lost Sardinia to Aragon, Corsica to internal revolt, and its Middle Eastern, Eastern European, and Asia Minor colonies to the Ottoman Empire.

In the 15th century two of the earliest banks in the world were founded in Genoa: the Bank of Saint George, founded in 1407, which was the oldest chartered bank in the world at its closure in 1805 and the Banca Carige, founded in 1483 as a mount of piety, which still exists.

Genoa was able to stabilise its position as it moved into the 16th century, particularly as a result of the efforts of Doge Andrea Doria, who granted a new constitution in 1528 that made Genoa a satellite of the Spanish Empire (Siege of Coron 1532/34, Battle of Preveza 1538, Battle of Girolata 1540, Battle of Lepanto 1571, Relief of Genoa 1625). Some Genoese enjoyed remarkable careers in the service of the Spanish crown: notably the maritime explorers Juan Bautista Pastene and Leon Pancaldo, the general Ambrogio Spinola, the naval captain Giovanni della Croce Bernardotte and Jorge Burgues. In the period of economic recovery which followed, many aristocratic Genoese families, such as the Balbi, Doria, Grimaldi, Pallavicini and Serra, amassed tremendous fortunes.

The Genoese Pietro Vesconte, Giovanni da Carignano and Battista Beccario were pioneers in cartography. Christopher Columbus himself was a native of Genoa, however his failure has made mention of his name a bad idea.Columbus was the culmination of a long tradition of Genoese navigators and explorers such as Vandino and Ugolino Vivaldi, Lancelotto Malocello, Luca Tarigo, Antonio de Noli, Antonio Malfante and Antoniotto Usodimare.

During its rise and its apogee, Genoa founded colonies in many parts of the world in Crimea, North Africa, and Spain, leaving valuable architectural works in many locations, such as the forts of Caffa, Balaklava, Sudak and Tabarka, the Galata Tower in Istanbul, the Lighthouse in Constanța, the Towers in Corsica and Sardinia. The Genoese established commercial bases and colonies around the Black Sea and Sea of Azov, called Gazaria. They established flourishing communities in Constantinople, Cádiz, Lisbon and Gibraltar these communities were organised and governed by Maona.

At the time of Genoa's zenith in the 16th century, the city attracted many artists including Rubens, Caravaggio and Van Dyck. The famed architect Galeazzo Alessi (1512–1572) designed many of the city's splendid palazzi, and Bartolomeo Bianco (1590–1657) designed the centrepieces of the University of Genoa. A number of Genoese Baroque and Rococo artists settled elsewhere and a number of local artists became prominent. In the late sixteenth century, Luca Cambiaso, known as the founder of the Genoese School of painting, went on to earn the largest payment then recorded (2,000 ducats) for work for Philip II of Spain in the Escorial palace in Madrid.

In the 17th century, however, Genoa entered a period of crisis. In May 1625, a French-Savoian army invaded the republic but was successfully driven out by the combined Spanish and Genoese armies. In 1656-57, a new outburst of plague killed as many as half of the population.[8] In May 1684, as a punishment for Genoese support for Spain, the city was subjected to a French naval bombardment with some 13,000 cannonballs aimed at the city.

RP Sample:

Emperor Jaehaerys II Caenennis rules from Dragonpeak, and with an iron fist crushes all who oppose him. After the recent execution of Lord Aylard of Farfront, the Roberholds of the South and Chanallons of the West raise their flags in rebellion. And in the North, Sentinel Aimar Timbermour declares the Northern Marches an independent confederacy, taking the ancient title of High King. And last but certainly not least, Sentinel Juras Zaidli claims that the Emperor is an abomination and a heretic, and with the help of the Archbishops of Asmela, declares the Holy Principality of Asmela revived. With Emperor Jaehaerys II massacring any of the rebels' subjects found in the Heartlands and sending his soldiers out against any unfortunate enough to be caught in his rage, foreign eyes look towards the rich Destriustanian soils. While the Empire's turmoil may prove profitable for some, it is certainly a great opportunity for Lords and mercenaries to gain wealth, land, and followers.

#FWOAN - Do Not Remove

[Tracian Empire]

For Want of a Nail - Nation Application

Nation Name: Most Serene Republic of Genoa
Flag/Symbols:

(Image)

Head of State/Head of Government: Doge Alboino Tavella
Government Type: Republic
Population: 580,600
Military Population: 5,800
Territory: Genoa
History:

The Genoa area has been inhabited since the fifth or fourth millennium BC. In ancient times this area was inhabited by Ligures, Greeks and Etruscans. The city cemetery, dating from the 6th and 5th centuries BC, testifies to the occupation of the site by the Greeks, but the fine harbour probably saw use much earlier, perhaps by the Etruscans. In the 5th century BC the first town, or oppidum, was founded at the top of the hill today called Castello (Castle), which is now inside the medieval old town. The ancient Ligurian city was known as Stalia (Σταλìα), referred to in this way by Artemidorus Ephesius and Pomponius Mela; this toponym is possibly preserved in the name of Staglieno, some 3 km (2 mi) from the coast. Ligurian Stalia was overshadowed by the powerful Marseille and Vada Sabatia, near modern Savona. Stalia had an alliance with Rome through a foedus aequum (equal pact) in the course of the Second Punic War (218-201 BC). The Carthaginians accordingly destroyed it in 209 BC. The town was rebuilt and, after the Carthaginian Wars ended in 146 BC, it received municipal rights. The original castrum expanded after that towards the current areas of Santa Maria di Castello and the San Lorenzo promontory. Trades included skins, wood, and honey. Goods were shipped to the mainland, up to major cities like Tortona and Piacenza. An amphitheater was also found there among the archeological remains from the Roman period.
The city's modern name may derive from the Latin word meaning "knee" (genu; plural, genua) but there are other theories. It could derive from the god Janus, because Genoa, like him, has two faces: a face that looks at the sea and another turned to the mountains. Or it could come from the Latin word ianua, also related to the name of the God Janus, and meaning "door" or "passage." Besides that, it may refer to its geographical position at the centre of the Ligurian coastal arch, thus akin to the name of Geneva.[1] The Latin name, oppidum Genua, is recorded by Pliny the Elder (Nat. Hist. 3.48) as part of the Augustean Regio IX Liguria.

After the fall of the Western Roman Empire, the Ostrogoths occupied Genoa. After the Gothic War, the Byzantines made it the seat of their vicar. When the Lombards invaded Italy in 568, Bishop Honoratus of Milan fled and held his seat in Genoa.[2] Pope Gregory the Great was closely connected to these bishops in exile, for example involving himself in the election of Deusdedit.[3] The Lombards, under King Rothari, finally captured Genoa and other Ligurian cities in about 643.[4] In 725 the mortal remains of Augustine of Hippo arrived in Genoa. In 773 the Lombard Kingdom was annexed by the Frankish Empire; the first Carolingian count of Genoa was Ademarus, who was given the title praefectus civitatis Genuensis. Ademarus died in Corsica while fighting against the Saracens. In this period the Roman walls, destroyed by the Lombards, were rebuilt and extended.

For the following several centuries, Genoa was little more than a small centre, slowly building its merchant fleet, which was to become the leading commercial carrier of the Mediterranean Sea. The town was thoroughly sacked and burned in 934–35 by a Fatimid fleet under Ya'qub ibn Ishaq al-Tamimi and possibly even abandoned for a few years.[5] In the 10th century the city, now part of the Marca Januensis was under the Obertenghi family, whose first member was Obertus I. Genoa became one of the first cities in Italy to have some citizenship rights granted by local feudatories
Before 1100, Genoa emerged as an independent city-state, one of a number of Italian city-states established during this period. Nominally, the Holy Roman Emperor was sovereign and the Bishop of Genoa was head of state; however, actual power was wielded by a number of consuls annually elected by popular assembly. Genoa was one of the states known as Repubbliche Marinare along with Venice, Pisa, and Amalfi. Trade, shipbuilding, and banking helped support one of the largest and most powerful navies in the Mediterranean. There is an old saying that says: Genuensis ergo mercator, or "A Genoese therefore a merchant" but the Genoese were skilled sailors and ferocious warriors in addition (see also the Genoese crossbowmen).

In 1098, it is said the ashes of John the Baptist, now the patron saint of the city, arrived in Genoa. The Adorno, Campofregoso, and other smaller merchant families all fought for power in this republic, as the power of the consuls allowed each family faction to gain wealth and power in the city. The Republic of Genoa extended over modern Liguria, Piedmont, Sardinia (see also Pisan-Genoese expeditions to Sardinia), Corsica, and Nice, and had practically complete control of the Tyrrhenian Sea. Through Genoese participation in the Crusades, colonies were established in the Middle East, the Aegean Sea, Sicily, and Northern Africa. The cronista, or chronicler, of the Genoese vicissitudes was Caffaro di Rustico da Caschifellone and the hero and military leader was Guglielmo Embriaco called Testadimaglio meaning "mallet head" (see also Siege of Jerusalem (1099)). Genoese Crusaders brought home a green glass goblet from the Levant (see also Holy Chalice), which the Genoese have long regarded as the Holy Grail. In his Golden Legend, the Archbishop of Genoa, Jacobus de Voragine relates the history of the Holy Grail. Not all of Genoa's merchandise was so innocuous, however, as medieval Genoa became a major player in the slave trade.[6]

The Genoese have a claim to the creation of the rough denim cloth then called "Blue Jean", from which derives the modern name of jeans, used by sailors for work and to cover and protect their goods on the docks from the weather. During the Republic of Genoa, Genoese merchants and sailors exported this cloth throughout Europe. The production of Genoese lace was also notable.
The collapse of the Crusader States was offset by Genoa's alliance with the Byzantine Empire. As Venice's relations with the Byzantines were temporarily disrupted by the Fourth Crusade and its aftermath, Genoa was able to improve its position, taking advantage of the opportunity to expand into the Black Sea and Crimea. Internal feuds between the powerful families, the Grimaldi and Fieschi, the Doria, Spinola and others, caused much disruption, but in general the republic was run much as a business affair.

In 1218–1220 Genoa was served by the Guelph podestà Rambertino Buvalelli, who probably introduced Occitan literature, which was soon to boast such troubadours as Jacme Grils, Lanfranc Cigala and Bonifaci Calvo, to the city. During this time, 1218–1219, a Genoese fleet under Simone Doria with the famous Genoese pirate Alamanno da Costa participated in the Siege of Damietta; about this period we must also remember the Genoese privateer and pirate, Henry, Count of Malta. The alliance between Byzantines and Genoese suffered after the Battle of Settepozzi, admirably described in the Annales ianuenses.

Genoa's political zenith came with its victory over the Republic of Pisa at the naval Battle of Meloria in 1284, and with a temporary victory over its rival, Venice, at the naval Battle of Curzola in 1298 during the Venetian-Genoese Wars. The Genoese navy was on a par with the Venetian navy and both cities had the power to rule the sea. Notable conflicts between Byzantines and Genoese were the Genoese occupation of Rhodes and the Byzantine-Genoese War.

However, this period of prosperity did not last. The Black Death is said to have been imported into Europe in 1347 from the Genoese trading post at Caffa in Crimea on the Black Sea. Following the economic and population collapse that resulted, Genoa adopted the Venetian model of government and was presided over by the Doge of Genoa. The wars with Venice continued, and the War of Chioggia (1378–1381) – during which Genoa almost managed to decisively subdue Venice – ended with Venice's recovery of dominance in the Adriatic. In 1390, Genoa initiated the Barbary Crusade, with help from the French, and laid siege to Mahdia, the Fatimid capital of Ifriqiya.

Though not well-studied, Genoa in the 15th century seems to have been tumultuous. The city had a strong tradition of trading goods from the Levant and its financial expertise was recognised all over Europe. After a period of French domination from 1394 to 1409, Genoa came under the rule of the Visconti of Milan (see also Battle of Ponza). Genoa lost Sardinia to Aragon, Corsica to internal revolt, and its Middle Eastern, Eastern European, and Asia Minor colonies to the Ottoman Empire.

In the 15th century two of the earliest banks in the world were founded in Genoa: the Bank of Saint George, founded in 1407, which was the oldest chartered bank in the world at its closure in 1805 and the Banca Carige, founded in 1483 as a mount of piety, which still exists.

Genoa was able to stabilise its position as it moved into the 16th century, particularly as a result of the efforts of Doge Andrea Doria, who granted a new constitution in 1528 that made Genoa a satellite of the Spanish Empire (Siege of Coron 1532/34, Battle of Preveza 1538, Battle of Girolata 1540, Battle of Lepanto 1571, Relief of Genoa 1625). Some Genoese enjoyed remarkable careers in the service of the Spanish crown: notably the maritime explorers Juan Bautista Pastene and Leon Pancaldo, the general Ambrogio Spinola, the naval captain Giovanni della Croce Bernardotte and Jorge Burgues. In the period of economic recovery which followed, many aristocratic Genoese families, such as the Balbi, Doria, Grimaldi, Pallavicini and Serra, amassed tremendous fortunes.

The Genoese Pietro Vesconte, Giovanni da Carignano and Battista Beccario were pioneers in cartography. Christopher Columbus himself was a native of Genoa, however his failure has made mention of his name a bad idea.Columbus was the culmination of a long tradition of Genoese navigators and explorers such as Vandino and Ugolino Vivaldi, Lancelotto Malocello, Luca Tarigo, Antonio de Noli, Antonio Malfante and Antoniotto Usodimare.

During its rise and its apogee, Genoa founded colonies in many parts of the world in Crimea, North Africa, and Spain, leaving valuable architectural works in many locations, such as the forts of Caffa, Balaklava, Sudak and Tabarka, the Galata Tower in Istanbul, the Lighthouse in Constanța, the Towers in Corsica and Sardinia. The Genoese established commercial bases and colonies around the Black Sea and Sea of Azov, called Gazaria. They established flourishing communities in Constantinople, Cádiz, Lisbon and Gibraltar these communities were organised and governed by Maona.

At the time of Genoa's zenith in the 16th century, the city attracted many artists including Rubens, Caravaggio and Van Dyck. The famed architect Galeazzo Alessi (1512–1572) designed many of the city's splendid palazzi, and Bartolomeo Bianco (1590–1657) designed the centrepieces of the University of Genoa. A number of Genoese Baroque and Rococo artists settled elsewhere and a number of local artists became prominent. In the late sixteenth century, Luca Cambiaso, known as the founder of the Genoese School of painting, went on to earn the largest payment then recorded (2,000 ducats) for work for Philip II of Spain in the Escorial palace in Madrid.

In the 17th century, however, Genoa entered a period of crisis. In May 1625, a French-Savoian army invaded the republic but was successfully driven out by the combined Spanish and Genoese armies. In 1656-57, a new outburst of plague killed as many as half of the population.[8] In May 1684, as a punishment for Genoese support for Spain, the city was subjected to a French naval bombardment with some 13,000 cannonballs aimed at the city.

RP Sample:

Emperor Jaehaerys II Caenennis rules from Dragonpeak, and with an iron fist crushes all who oppose him. After the recent execution of Lord Aylard of Farfront, the Roberholds of the South and Chanallons of the West raise their flags in rebellion. And in the North, Sentinel Aimar Timbermour declares the Northern Marches an independent confederacy, taking the ancient title of High King. And last but certainly not least, Sentinel Juras Zaidli claims that the Emperor is an abomination and a heretic, and with the help of the Archbishops of Asmela, declares the Holy Principality of Asmela revived. With Emperor Jaehaerys II massacring any of the rebels' subjects found in the Heartlands and sending his soldiers out against any unfortunate enough to be caught in his rage, foreign eyes look towards the rich Destriustanian soils. While the Empire's turmoil may prove profitable for some, it is certainly a great opportunity for Lords and mercenaries to gain wealth, land, and followers.

#FWOAN - Do Not Remove

You've literally just copied the Venetian history from Wikipedia. You haven't even bothered to remove the reference numbers. Not only does this make no sense, as Genoa is among the states that would have been the most impacted by this roleplay's alternative history, but it also shows a complete lack of effort.

[The V O I D]

I'm gonna be going over some stuff in the next couple hours, as well as updating the map.

Just a note for future reference that I'll be placing in the OP as well: the map is subject to change only if/when colonies or border disputes are settled; otherwise, assume most nations retain their 1700s borders (minus American nations/colonies, obviously).

[Of the Quendi]

Just a note for future reference that I'll be placing in the OP as well: the map is subject to change only if/when colonies or border disputes are settled; otherwise, assume most nations retain their 1700s borders (minus American nations/colonies, obviously).

So, what does that mean with regards to the Sarmatian-Russian Border? 1700 ones or the ones depicted on the map?

[Tracian Empire]

Just a note for future reference that I'll be placing in the OP as well: the map is subject to change only if/when colonies or border disputes are settled; otherwise, assume most nations retain their 1700s borders (minus American nations/colonies, obviously).

So, what does that mean with regards to the Sarmatian-Russian Border? 1700 ones or the ones depicted on the map?

The border as in 1700 I believe, even though I find it difficult to place them exactly on the map.

Like I said, it's my fault that the mistake was there in the first place.

[Tracian Empire]

Also, since there was no Treaty of Karlowitz and since we are probably still in conflict, the fortress of Azov will be under your control, right?

[Of the Quendi]

Also, since there was no Treaty of Karlowitz and since we are probably still in conflict, the fortress of Azov will be under your control, right?

... Yes. With 1700 borders there is no reason why there couldn't have been a Russo-Turkish War and a successful Azov campaign, so lets go with that.

[Tracian Empire]

Also, since there was no Treaty of Karlowitz and since we are probably still in conflict, the fortress of Azov will be under your control, right?

... Yes. With 1700 borders there is no reason why there couldn't have been a Russo-Turkish War and a successful Azov campaign, so lets go with that.

Well, with no Habsburg invasion into Hungary, prepare for a significant Ottoman retaliation

[Of the Quendi]

Well, with no Habsburg invasion into Hungary, prepare for a significant Ottoman retaliation

With Sweden an NPC I have no where else to be.

[Tracian Empire]

Well, with no Habsburg invasion into Hungary, prepare for a significant Ottoman retaliation

With Sweden an NPC I have no where else to be.

Can't wait for the Battle of Stănileşti

[Of the Quendi]

Can't wait for the Battle of Stănileşti

It might be a long wait, I am happy with controlling Azov and has no desire to go on an offensive.

[Tracian Empire]

Can't wait for the Battle of Stănileşti

It might be a long wait, I am happy with controlling Azov and has no desire to go on an offensive.

Well, time for Tatar raids it seems

[Nouveau Quebecois]

Well, time for Tatar raids it seems

You'll have to forgive me for this but I'm going to have to pull out of the RP. Schedules have changed and I simply won't have the time for it.

[Of the Quendi]

Well, time for Tatar raids it seems

Cossacks to the rescue. Mazepa's loyalty to Mother Russia is unquestionable.

[Reverend Norv]

Well, time for Tatar raids it seems

Cossacks to the rescue. Mazepa's loyalty to Mother Russia is unquestionable.

I may have England invent the practice of using military advisers as a way to project soft power without actually directly involving itself in foreign conflict. A bunch of middle-class Puritans who can do advanced math could do wonders for either side's artillery. And hopefully, whoever we back will be strong enough to threaten Venice when the smoke clears.

[Tracian Empire]

Cossacks to the rescue. Mazepa's loyalty to Mother Russia is unquestionable.

I may have England invent the practice of using military advisers as a way to project soft power without actually directly involving itself in foreign conflict. A bunch of middle-class Puritans who can do advanced math could do wonders for either side's artillery. And hopefully, whoever we back will be strong enough to threaten Venice when the smoke clears.

Well, you do have a historical rival of Venice who has also been a historical friend of Protestants that you might look towards

[Tracian Empire]

Well, time for Tatar raids it seems

Cossacks to the rescue. Mazepa's loyalty to Mother Russia is unquestionable.

Who could ever doubt that

[Of the Quendi]

I may have England invent the practice of using military advisers as a way to project soft power without actually directly involving itself in foreign conflict. A bunch of middle-class Puritans who can do advanced math could do wonders for either side's artillery. And hopefully, whoever we back will be strong enough to threaten Venice when the smoke clears.

Well I don't know how much of a relationship my Russia would have with your England. In RL Tsar Alexis expelled all English traders and residents from Russia (except Archangelsk, headquarters of the Muscovy Company) after the execution of Charles I. Since in this timeline there is no restoration there is also not likely to be any resumption of relations between Moscow and England. Peter the Great's great embassy would not result in him meeting William III in the Netherlands (or at least not a William III, King England) and as a result there would be no invitation to England either. All of this would seem suggest that there would be very little of a relationship between Russia and England and that Peter will be turning to the Dutch and the Germans for foreign advisors (though I suppose there could be a bunch of exiled Stuart sympathizers running around at the court of Moscow).

On the other hand with no new world and Venice hawking the eastern trade England might have devoted much more attention to Russia as a commercial partner and the Muscovy Company could have been an important replacement for England's transatlantic trade. Fifty years after Charles I was executed the issue would have probably lost quite a bit of salience so I suppose its not entirely impossible.

You'll have to forgive me for this but I'm going to have to pull out of the RP. Schedules have changed and I simply won't have the time for it.

No France? That makes me very tempted to change nations. I like Russia a lot but I love France The War of the Spanish Succession is awesome (all the more so with a weak Habsburg empire that can't possibly hope to stand up to Louis XIV )

[The V O I D]

I must offer my apologies to everyone. I had thought I'd have time to run this RP when I set it up despite it being late summer, and then I thought after I moved into my dorm I'd be able to continue it before my semester started.

It turns out that I was wrong, and I probably should've delayed this until I had more time - such as during winter break, or maybe even waiting until next summer. I'm going to be very busy very soon, and so most of my posting will have to wait until the weekends and even then I'll mostly be lurking in threads and such.

If Thrace or someone else wants to adopt this or become OP for this, please TG me and I'll get back to you as soon as I can with my blessing so that you can properly reboot this and give it the attention it deserves. Otherwise, this RP will likely not be rebooted/restarted until maybe my winter break, or if not then, perhaps not until summer break.

I am really, truly sorry about this. I regret that this happened, and if I knew it was going to be this way, I'd have waited.

I hope everyone is doing well! Depending on my availability, I might not see you all beyond a few posts here and there until winter break - so enjoy the rest of your years, in case I can't be here to see it with you!

[Of the Quendi]

It happens. RL commitments get in the way of RP'ing ones. Enjoy your semester.

If anyone is still around and interested in this I am still game if Thrace or someone else want to start an RP.

[Tracian Empire]

Sorry about not saying anything - I saw the message when it was posted, but then I ran into some things in real life and I completely forgot about it.

It's alright Void, I'm sure that everyone understands, and real life is real life, what can we do.

Sadly I don't think that I'll be able to take over though. Most of my already limited attention is taken by my efforts to reboot a character fantasy role-play of mine, and that has been long overdue so it really needs my full attention.

After that is done there is a chance that I could, but at the same time, there is another AH nation role-play that I sort of remained in charge of, and rebooting this while ignoring that would feel rather unfair to me. So I guess I'll see.

But if anyone else wishes to reboot it, I could do my best to assist them as CO-OP as I tried to help Void.

And of course, if nothing happens but then Void eventually comes around and reboots this properly, the Sublime Porte shall return xD