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Aeyariss
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Aeyariss » Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:19 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:I'm doing a week timeskip, that cool?


Whats a week when we got another 4000 years to go.
Retired. (Again)

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Sapientia Et Bellum
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Ex-Nation

Postby Sapientia Et Bellum » Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:37 pm

I'm bout to piss on the steps of the emporers palace, try to stop me
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The World Capitalist Confederation
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Corporate Police State

Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:22 am

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Character Section:
Character Name: Xi Monping
Character Type
(Put Y where applicable)
Ruler(Warlord Fighting For Power):
Warlord(Aka a Strategist):
General: Y
Politician:
Diplomat: Y
Bandit:
Soldier: Y
Dancer:
Priest:
Scholar:
Merchant:
Peasant:
Mercenary
Mystic:
Hermit:
Adventurer:
Born Noble:
Appointed Noble:
Foreigner:
Born Royalty:
---------
Bio: He's a minor character, not really remarkable.
Location(If map is up, pick general region or look up china stuff or places you know on there, if not, do the same thing, just a general area):
Territory(If Ruler):
Personality(Timid, Calm, Bold, or Reckless): Stern and hard-boiled.
Alignment: Lawful Evil
Stats(Out of 100):
Leader= 85
Valor= 75
Duel= 65
Intellect= 75
Politics= 35
Foreign= 10
Charisma= 55
-----

RP Sample(If you have one. Link, don't copy-paste.):
If you don't have a RP Sample do you swear to reach the level of quality demonstrated by players?:
#App(Don't remove this is for finding Apps)


"Xi Monping."

DENIED!
:p

Wait, has someone already taken that name?

Meelducan wrote:He probably wouldn't get an endorsement from Weight Watchers.

Society in a Song

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The World Capitalist Confederation
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:24 am

Ralnis wrote:
Danceria wrote:Becomes the "Hai dynasty"
Rules for exactly 369 years
exists for 420 years
Historians try to hide this fact from the world


Becomes Lao Dynasty,
Only last for a week, Lao died of alcohol poisoning

Becomes the Wong Dynasty
Xi rules for 55 years and then falls over his own sword. I don’t mean assassination or suicide, mind you, I mean literally falling on his sword.

Meelducan wrote:He probably wouldn't get an endorsement from Weight Watchers.

Society in a Song

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Endem
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Postby Endem » Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:48 am

WCC, how much soldiers would Zhin get from Wong as part of their alliance
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The World Capitalist Confederation
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:36 am

Endem wrote:WCC, how much soldiers would Zhin get from Wong as part of their alliance

About 1,000.

Meelducan wrote:He probably wouldn't get an endorsement from Weight Watchers.

Society in a Song

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Endem
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Postby Endem » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:12 am

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Endem wrote:WCC, how much soldiers would Zhin get from Wong as part of their alliance

About 1,000.

Oh yeah, time for action
Eternal, how much an average Xia dynasty city has soldiers guarding it
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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:12 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:Kowani, want me to post first?

Bellum, that goes for you too. How do you want to set up my guy meeting your old man?

That would be helpful, yes.
Spanish Atheist.
If an area was ours for 500 years and yours for 50 years, it should belong to us – you are merely occupiers.
If an area was yours for 500 years and ours for 50 years, it should belong to us – borders must not be changed.
If an area belonged to us 500 years ago but never since then, it should belong to us – it is the cradle of our nation.
If a majority of our people live there, it must belong to us – they must enjoy the right of self-determination.
If a minority of our people live there, it must belong to us – they must be protected against your oppression.
All of the above rules apply to us, but not to you.
Our dream of greatness is historical necessity, yours is fascism.

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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:20 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Kowani wrote:That would be helpful, yes.

Waiting for Danceria's post first. Me and him talk via Discord.

Sure thing. I gotta eat lunch, anyway.
Spanish Atheist.
If an area was ours for 500 years and yours for 50 years, it should belong to us – you are merely occupiers.
If an area was yours for 500 years and ours for 50 years, it should belong to us – borders must not be changed.
If an area belonged to us 500 years ago but never since then, it should belong to us – it is the cradle of our nation.
If a majority of our people live there, it must belong to us – they must enjoy the right of self-determination.
If a minority of our people live there, it must belong to us – they must be protected against your oppression.
All of the above rules apply to us, but not to you.
Our dream of greatness is historical necessity, yours is fascism.

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Endem
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Founded: Aug 19, 2018
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Endem » Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:37 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Endem wrote:Oh yeah, time for action
Eternal, how much an average Xia dynasty city has soldiers guarding it

Unsure. I think 1000 is reasonable-about equal with my forces for my city.

Total Imperial Forces should equal 70,000-a huge force for the time period.

Okay then, so I guess 2000 soldiers isn't enough to effectively besiege a city then, running SecondPlan.exe
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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:39 pm

Endem wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:Unsure. I think 1000 is reasonable-about equal with my forces for my city.

Total Imperial Forces should equal 70,000-a huge force for the time period.

Okay then, so I guess 2000 soldiers isn't enough to effectively besiege a city then, running SecondPlan.exe

Just pull a Genghis Khan and launch a plague into it.

Whattya mean, “it’s too early for that?”
Spanish Atheist.
If an area was ours for 500 years and yours for 50 years, it should belong to us – you are merely occupiers.
If an area was yours for 500 years and ours for 50 years, it should belong to us – borders must not be changed.
If an area belonged to us 500 years ago but never since then, it should belong to us – it is the cradle of our nation.
If a majority of our people live there, it must belong to us – they must enjoy the right of self-determination.
If a minority of our people live there, it must belong to us – they must be protected against your oppression.
All of the above rules apply to us, but not to you.
Our dream of greatness is historical necessity, yours is fascism.

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Endem
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Founded: Aug 19, 2018
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Endem » Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:42 pm

Kowani wrote:
Endem wrote:Okay then, so I guess 2000 soldiers isn't enough to effectively besiege a city then, running SecondPlan.exe

Just pull a Genghis Khan and launch a plague into it.

Whattya mean, “it’s too early for that?”

Oh no, I plan for something better I want the Xia soldiers to so far Zhin they will surrender whenever they see him
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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:42 pm

Endem wrote:
Kowani wrote:Just pull a Genghis Khan and launch a plague into it.

Whattya mean, “it’s too early for that?”

Oh no, I plan for something better I want the Xia soldiers to so far Zhin they will surrender whenever they see him

That was one of Genghis Khan’s strategies…
Spanish Atheist.
If an area was ours for 500 years and yours for 50 years, it should belong to us – you are merely occupiers.
If an area was yours for 500 years and ours for 50 years, it should belong to us – borders must not be changed.
If an area belonged to us 500 years ago but never since then, it should belong to us – it is the cradle of our nation.
If a majority of our people live there, it must belong to us – they must enjoy the right of self-determination.
If a minority of our people live there, it must belong to us – they must be protected against your oppression.
All of the above rules apply to us, but not to you.
Our dream of greatness is historical necessity, yours is fascism.

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Ralnis
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Founded: Aug 06, 2012
Father Knows Best State

Postby Ralnis » Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:45 pm

Endem wrote:
Kowani wrote:Just pull a Genghis Khan and launch a plague into it.

Whattya mean, “it’s too early for that?”

Oh no, I plan for something better I want the Xia soldiers to so far Zhin they will surrender whenever they see him

So do what Lao is doing burning stuff doing with his growing horde?

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Endem
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Postby Endem » Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:48 pm

Ralnis wrote:
Endem wrote:Oh no, I plan for something better I want the Xia soldiers to so far Zhin they will surrender whenever they see him

So do what Lao is doing burning stuff doing with his growing horde?

No, I was more thinking of, leaving bloodied corpses of defeated soldiers on the side of roads for them to root ( sometimes decapitated [ heads will be used later ] ) with a wooden plate saying "A Xia Dog"
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Ralnis
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Ralnis » Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:51 pm

Endem wrote:
Ralnis wrote:So do what Lao is doing burning stuff doing with his growing horde?

No, I was more thinking of, leaving bloodied corpses of defeated soldiers on the side of roads for them to root ( sometimes decapitated [ heads will be used later ] ) with a wooden plate saying "A Xia Dog"

Lao just destroys villages and towns. He lives the bodies of the defeated and the massacred as evidence he was there. If that doesn't make the Xia soldiers shit themselves seeing the drunk monster then I don't know what will.

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Endem
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Postby Endem » Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:56 pm

Ralnis wrote:
Endem wrote:No, I was more thinking of, leaving bloodied corpses of defeated soldiers on the side of roads for them to root ( sometimes decapitated [ heads will be used later ] ) with a wooden plate saying "A Xia Dog"

Lao just destroys villages and towns. He lives the bodies of the defeated and the massacred as evidence he was there. If that doesn't make the Xia soldiers shit themselves seeing the drunk monster then I don't know what will.

Yes, but, contrary to your char, Zhin doesn't want mindless pillaging but the rule of some territory, so it's better if the people don't immediately hate Zhin
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Kowani
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Founded: Apr 01, 2018
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Postby Kowani » Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:58 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:So wait...

Song was noticed?

I can into relevance!

Back into the box.
Spanish Atheist.
If an area was ours for 500 years and yours for 50 years, it should belong to us – you are merely occupiers.
If an area was yours for 500 years and ours for 50 years, it should belong to us – borders must not be changed.
If an area belonged to us 500 years ago but never since then, it should belong to us – it is the cradle of our nation.
If a majority of our people live there, it must belong to us – they must enjoy the right of self-determination.
If a minority of our people live there, it must belong to us – they must be protected against your oppression.
All of the above rules apply to us, but not to you.
Our dream of greatness is historical necessity, yours is fascism.

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Kowani
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Posts: 19297
Founded: Apr 01, 2018
Democratic Socialists

Postby Kowani » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:05 pm

Endem wrote:
Ralnis wrote:Lao just destroys villages and towns. He lives the bodies of the defeated and the massacred as evidence he was there. If that doesn't make the Xia soldiers shit themselves seeing the drunk monster then I don't know what will.

Yes, but, contrary to your char, Zhin doesn't want mindless pillaging but the rule of some territory, so it's better if the people don't immediately hate Zhin

So, you’re Perturabo to his Angron.
Spanish Atheist.
If an area was ours for 500 years and yours for 50 years, it should belong to us – you are merely occupiers.
If an area was yours for 500 years and ours for 50 years, it should belong to us – borders must not be changed.
If an area belonged to us 500 years ago but never since then, it should belong to us – it is the cradle of our nation.
If a majority of our people live there, it must belong to us – they must enjoy the right of self-determination.
If a minority of our people live there, it must belong to us – they must be protected against your oppression.
All of the above rules apply to us, but not to you.
Our dream of greatness is historical necessity, yours is fascism.

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Ralnis
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Posts: 24762
Founded: Aug 06, 2012
Father Knows Best State

Postby Ralnis » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:12 pm

Endem wrote:
Ralnis wrote:Lao just destroys villages and towns. He lives the bodies of the defeated and the massacred as evidence he was there. If that doesn't make the Xia soldiers shit themselves seeing the drunk monster then I don't know what will.

Yes, but, contrary to your char, Zhin doesn't want mindless pillaging but the rule of some territory, so it's better if the people don't immediately hate Zhin

I mean Lao will leave a dynasty form by bastard children who would claim ownership of the Wang Province and the Demon's Throne. That and a lot of the Demon Horde of Lao will break up into successor states to divide up all the stuff he rampaged and things, maybe even the capital if he get's far enough.

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Ralnis
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Ralnis » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:17 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Ralnis wrote:I mean Lao will leave a dynasty form by bastard children who would claim ownership of the Wang Province and the Demon's Throne. That and a lot of the Demon Horde of Lao will break up into successor states to divide up all the stuff he rampaged and things, maybe even the capital if he get's far enough.

...

Your kingdom is going to last for 20 years then fall apart like the Qin Dynasty isn't it?

Who said that Lao was making a kingdom? Lao just wants to burn shit down, fight and drink till he dies. All the raping and pillaging he does will(hopefully) go to mythic levels that a kingdom will be forged from the shit he burned down by his bastard children or loyal gangs.

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Endem
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Founded: Aug 19, 2018
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Endem » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:21 pm

Kowani wrote:
Endem wrote:Yes, but, contrary to your char, Zhin doesn't want mindless pillaging but the rule of some territory, so it's better if the people don't immediately hate Zhin

So, you’re Perturabo to his Angron.

I have no idea what you'r talking about
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Sapientia Et Bellum
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Founded: Dec 10, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Sapientia Et Bellum » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:21 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:Kowani, want me to post first?

Bellum, that goes for you too. How do you want to set up my guy meeting your old man?

Well, I'm planning on traveling to you... So just tell me where you are and I can get things done
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"We are fascists, the heirs of fascism, the fascism of the year 2000" - Il Duce Gianfranco Fini

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In The Long Run, We Are All Dead

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Endem
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Founded: Aug 19, 2018
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Postby Endem » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:25 pm

Well, three things 1. is modern day town of Xingtai in Xia borders, 2. how well it would be defended and 3. would there be an military outpost nearby
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Ralnis
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Ralnis » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:27 pm

Maybe Lao should nation build. Have a second-in-command to run things in a dynasty setting and become the Wang Dynasty as he goes burns shit down.

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