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Gudmund
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Civilisation:
Tier 8, Level 3, Type 7
An 8.625 civilization - according to this index
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Leader: Albani Gudmund
Setting: FT (2060+), the ruling nation of a non-human, low population, galactic Empire spanning just beyond its solar system. Primarily using advanced, mass-produced droids to handle most menial tasks and to fill the ranks of its military alongside living soldiers.

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Postby The National Dominion of Hungary » Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:58 am

The Empire of Tau wrote:
My fleet is very simple to understand. Flying armor with mass-accelerator-gun-batteries attached to it, with smaller ships to support if needed. Lots of small-to-medium-mass-accelerators, with the most heaviest being fitted on capital-grade-hulls. Expect hails of slugs to be aimed at you. That's all you need to know.


Heavy, slow-moving, significantly better armor than my vessels, but probably slower? More or less equal firepower? Or do you think the edge there would be more on my side thanks to the more diverse loadout of Thaelic ships? How's electronics looking? Since the Path believe that wide use of technology is a threat and AI's are death itself I suppose the electronics edge would be on my end?
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The Empire of Tau
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Postby The Empire of Tau » Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:43 pm

The National Dominion of Hungary wrote:
The Empire of Tau wrote:
My fleet is very simple to understand. Flying armor with mass-accelerator-gun-batteries attached to it, with smaller ships to support if needed. Lots of small-to-medium-mass-accelerators, with the most heaviest being fitted on capital-grade-hulls. Expect hails of slugs to be aimed at you. That's all you need to know.


Heavy, slow-moving, significantly better armor than my vessels, but probably slower? More or less equal firepower? Or do you think the edge there would be more on my side thanks to the more diverse loadout of Thaelic ships? How's electronics looking? Since the Path believe that wide use of technology is a threat and AI's are death itself I suppose the electronics edge would be on my end?

That's a good question. Let's quickly do a history lesson. Way back when, the engineers and scientists of the Church found themselves with a big issue. They had no sort of AI that could aid them in calculations or simulations, the stuff that you need to progress your nation's scientific progress. But the Church did have a lot of psionic-gifted-people. After some 20 or so years of research, they managed to create a machine that was essentially a computer that linked up psionic-lads to process data. So, today, the Path has no form of electronics. The Path has been using psionic-machines in place of electronics. Yet, there's a issue. Like electronic-warfare is to electronics, other psychics can disrupt psionic-machines. So, ye, you would have total power over me in terms of electronics, but there's the caveat.

As for load-outs, Path ships use a mixture of mass-accelerators and missiles. Mostly mass-accelerators, although the Path often uses swarm-missiles en-mass to overwhelm ships. As for equal or more firepower. I don't know. The Path Starfleets is good at sustained-fire and suppression with long-drawn-combat allowing them to keep on the pressure. For speed, you have the edge as my ships have a fuck-ton-of-armor and massive engines in terms of capital-ships. As for support ships, it is various for the type of ship.
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Ralnis
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Postby Ralnis » Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:47 pm

The Empire of Tau wrote:
The National Dominion of Hungary wrote:
Heavy, slow-moving, significantly better armor than my vessels, but probably slower? More or less equal firepower? Or do you think the edge there would be more on my side thanks to the more diverse loadout of Thaelic ships? How's electronics looking? Since the Path believe that wide use of technology is a threat and AI's are death itself I suppose the electronics edge would be on my end?

That's a good question. Let's quickly do a history lesson. Way back when, the engineers and scientists of the Church found themselves with a big issue. They had no sort of AI that could aid them in calculations or simulations, the stuff that you need to progress your nation's scientific progress. But the Church did have a lot of psionic-gifted-people. After some 20 or so years of research, they managed to create a machine that was essentially a computer that linked up psionic-lads to process data. So, today, the Path has no form of electronics. The Path has been using psionic-machines in place of electronics. Yet, there's a issue. Like electronic-warfare is to electronics, other psychics can disrupt psionic-machines. So, ye, you would have total power over me in terms of electronics, but there's the caveat.

As for load-outs, Path ships use a mixture of mass-accelerators and missiles. Mostly mass-accelerators, although the Path often uses swarm-missiles en-mass to overwhelm ships. As for equal or more firepower. I don't know. The Path Starfleets is good at sustained-fire and suppression with long-drawn-combat allowing them to keep on the pressure.

Naturally the pirates will also be employing these technologies. So it seems that there's some more of an edge to the pirates.
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Ostnea
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Postby Ostnea » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:17 pm

Olthenia wrote:-snip-

Hey, we have similar space daddy issues abusive precursors! If you're close enough to the Coalition, I could see our civilizations getting along pretty well.

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Olthenia
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Postby Olthenia » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:21 pm

Ostnea wrote:
Olthenia wrote:-snip-

Hey, we have similar space daddy issues abusive precursors! If you're close enough to the Coalition, I could see our civilizations getting along pretty well.


We could form a support group. Abusive Precursors Anonymous.

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Postby Shadowwell » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:39 pm

Ostnea wrote:
Olthenia wrote:-snip-

Hey, we have similar space daddy issues abusive precursors! If you're close enough to the Coalition, I could see our civilizations getting along pretty well.


The Conclave too once suffered under alien overlords, many of its members did at least. Would you guys be interesting in joining the Orion Anti-Pirate Alliance? jk
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Postby Utceforp » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:51 pm

Olthenia wrote:
Ostnea wrote:Hey, we have similar space daddy issues abusive precursors! If you're close enough to the Coalition, I could see our civilizations getting along pretty well.


We could form a support group. Abusive Precursors Anonymous.

Maybe the Rainmakers and Overseers were at war, and that was why they both needed "flesh-tithes"?
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Postby Ostnea » Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:49 pm

Utceforp wrote:
Olthenia wrote:
We could form a support group. Abusive Precursors Anonymous.

Maybe the Rainmakers and Overseers were at war, and that was why they both needed "flesh-tithes"?


That would be interesting, though it seems the Rainmakers were more interested in Robotics than the Overseers. Maybe a smaller scale War in Heaven from Warhammer 40k happened (i.e. One side of evil robots fight a race that has mastery over biology and makes races as foot soldiers)?

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Postby Shadowwell » Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:06 pm

Ostnea wrote:
Utceforp wrote:Maybe the Rainmakers and Overseers were at war, and that was why they both needed "flesh-tithes"?


That would be interesting, though it seems the Rainmakers were more interested in Robotics than the Overseers. Maybe a smaller scale War in Heaven from Warhammer 40k happened (i.e. One side of evil robots fight a race that has mastery over biology and makes races as foot soldiers)?


I am reminded of Stellaris now, Flesh is weak vs gene tailoring, ie synthetic ascension vs biological ascension.
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The Empire of Tau
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Postby The Empire of Tau » Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:13 pm

Shadowwell wrote:
Ostnea wrote:
That would be interesting, though it seems the Rainmakers were more interested in Robotics than the Overseers. Maybe a smaller scale War in Heaven from Warhammer 40k happened (i.e. One side of evil robots fight a race that has mastery over biology and makes races as foot soldiers)?


I am reminded of Stellaris now, Flesh is weak vs gene tailoring, ie synthetic ascension vs biological ascension.

Psionic Ascension is the way to go.

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Postby Shadowwell » Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:20 pm

The Empire of Tau wrote:
Shadowwell wrote:
I am reminded of Stellaris now, Flesh is weak vs gene tailoring, ie synthetic ascension vs biological ascension.

Psionic Ascension is the way to go.

Sure, but not spiritualist, go fanatic materialists then go psionic ascension.

The Conclave does make some use of Psionics, but would most likely be a combination of spiritualists and materialists to a point.
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The Empire of Tau
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Postby The Empire of Tau » Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:22 pm

Shadowwell wrote:
The Empire of Tau wrote:Psionic Ascension is the way to go.

Sure, but not spiritualist, go fanatic materialists then go psionic ascension.

The Conclave does make some use of Psionics, but would most likely be a combination of spiritualists and materialists to a point.

I never did such a combination, but Bio-path feels a bit underwhelming. Paradox needs buff it.
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:37 pm

Shadowwell wrote:
The Empire of Tau wrote:Psionic Ascension is the way to go.

Sure, but not spiritualist, go fanatic materialists then go psionic ascension.

The Conclave does make some use of Psionics, but would most likely be a combination of spiritualists and materialists to a point.

>Psionics

Aww, my SF is now soft. Why can't it be hard?
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Postby Shadowwell » Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:42 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Shadowwell wrote:Sure, but not spiritualist, go fanatic materialists then go psionic ascension.

The Conclave does make some use of Psionics, but would most likely be a combination of spiritualists and materialists to a point.

>Psionics

Aww, my SF is now soft. Why can't it be hard?

Well, i mean, it was said in the fourth post here, third by the OP that this is Light Sci Fi and 'Psionics are a go.'

Besides, is it really too far fetched that there could be races who are capable of harnessing psionic/telepathic abilities?
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Postby Utceforp » Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:44 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Shadowwell wrote:Sure, but not spiritualist, go fanatic materialists then go psionic ascension.

The Conclave does make some use of Psionics, but would most likely be a combination of spiritualists and materialists to a point.

>Psionics

Aww, my SF is now soft. Why can't it be hard?

I kinda need psionics if I want the Heptarchy to be more than just cool rocks.
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Postby The Empire of Tau » Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:46 pm

I'm here because it is soft SF. Hard SF is a bit pretentious to me.

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Postby Ralnis » Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:46 pm

The Empire of Tau wrote:I'm here because it is soft SF. Hard SF is a bit pretentious to me.

I like more soft SF but wouldn't mind hard SF once and awhile.
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Postby Shadowwell » Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:56 pm

Ralnis wrote:
The Empire of Tau wrote:I'm here because it is soft SF. Hard SF is a bit pretentious to me.

I like more soft SF but wouldn't mind hard SF once and awhile.


Lots of creative possibilities for either.
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:56 pm

Shadowwell wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:>Psionics

Aww, my SF is now soft. Why can't it be hard?

Well, i mean, it was said in the fourth post here, third by the OP that this is Light Sci Fi and 'Psionics are a go.'

Besides, is it really too far fetched that there could be races who are capable of harnessing psionic/telepathic abilities?

I know, it was just a joke. It's hard to find hard SF RPs though, mostly because it's hard for people who aren't scientists or intellectuals or willing to do 3 hours of research on a single weapon.
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Postby Ralnis » Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:57 pm

Shadowwell wrote:
Ralnis wrote:I like more soft SF but wouldn't mind hard SF once and awhile.


Lots of creative possibilities for either.

It mostly depends on OP guidelines than anything else.
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:59 pm

Utceforp wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:>Psionics

Aww, my SF is now soft. Why can't it be hard?

I kinda need psionics if I want the Heptarchy to be more than just cool rocks.

The weird thing about soft SF is people overdusing lasers. Why not just wear a thin layer of glass to deflect the lasers or put reflective coatings on your ships.

Also large ships are very tactically stupid, since even marine ships got scaled down since we figured out it's bad idea. It has lots of guns, sure , and more volume for less material, but it's a much larger target.
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Postby Shadowwell » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:12 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Utceforp wrote:I kinda need psionics if I want the Heptarchy to be more than just cool rocks.

The weird thing about soft SF is people overdusing lasers. Why not just wear a thin layer of glass to deflect the lasers or put reflective coatings on your ships.

Also large ships are very tactically stupid, since even marine ships got scaled down since we figured out it's bad idea. It has lots of guns, sure , and more volume for less material, but it's a much larger target.


A, focused light can sometimes melt glass and burn through mirrored surfaces.
B. despite their general power requirement Lasers have among the greatest viable accurate range depending. Besides, lasers/energy weapons are widely thought of as being the typical sci fi weapons. Kinetic weaponry might be more realistic, but Sci Fi is fiction, fiction rooted in science but fiction nonetheless.

Large ships might be tactically stupid as you say, but their might be more behind their creation than just tactical viability. Size of the ship would/could also be dependent on the power generation and weapons in use. Also depends upon the race/species using them, for example, the Weseh male can range in size between 8-10 feet in height, so they would not be able to fit on the size of ships your Armonians would use. One species/race i typically use are Insectoids/Arthropoids who make use of biological technology and literally grow their ships.

Many people might adhere less to realism for the roleplay and storytelling possibilities.

My opinion is most things we imagine or think of could perhaps work. Just we as we currently are cannot conceive how they would though.
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Postby Utceforp » Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:34 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Utceforp wrote:I kinda need psionics if I want the Heptarchy to be more than just cool rocks.

The weird thing about soft SF is people overdusing lasers. Why not just wear a thin layer of glass to deflect the lasers or put reflective coatings on your ships.

Also large ships are very tactically stupid, since even marine ships got scaled down since we figured out it's bad idea. It has lots of guns, sure , and more volume for less material, but it's a much larger target.

For soft Sci-Fi I like using railguns that fire plasma as my go-to "pew pew" weapon.
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:38 pm

Utceforp wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:The weird thing about soft SF is people overdusing lasers. Why not just wear a thin layer of glass to deflect the lasers or put reflective coatings on your ships.

Also large ships are very tactically stupid, since even marine ships got scaled down since we figured out it's bad idea. It has lots of guns, sure , and more volume for less material, but it's a much larger target.

For soft Sci-Fi I like using railguns that fire plasma as my go-to "pew pew" weapon.

I usually use tactical nuclear weapons to give the biggest middle finger ever to those who have massive ships for no good reason.
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