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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:05 am

Castelia wrote:Hey, fellows.

I'm still in the process of making my character, but I'm still having trouble deciding on what position to go for. However, I'm leaning more into making my character be the equivalent of a foreign affairs minister. So with that said, I want to ask:

What is the current state of America's foreign affairs? Are we isolationist now, or do we still play a leading role on international affairs? Which nations do we have alliances with, what are our current policies, etc.

The US is very isolationist and protectionist, more concerned with American jobs than anything else. However, the Secretary of State plays a large role in hunting pirates and fighting drug trade in South America, and it is a major advocate for American business interests abroad. Major allies are the European Union, The Republic of the Two Koreas and Japan. One could wonder whether America would be better off supporting the Chinese Democratic Army, which holds the nation’s south and west. Africa is a major market for American goods, but also a major manufacturer competing with the American markets. Every American company has a major European competitor trying to outwit it across the world.

However, the US remains isolationist, and unwillingn to engage in major foreign policy.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:26 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:Quick question since I figure it's slightly important for the IC, but what's the state of the vice-presidency as of the start of the RP?

I’m thinking of making Laurence VP, as the Heir Apparent to the First Citizen. Problems will arise at once, of course, because of the question if that makes him First Citizen just like his mother, or if the positions of Pro Temp, Chief Justice and President are split at once. Besides, Laurence will have to appoint a new VP, and I believe the US Senate has to rubber-stamp it.

Mind, like was said before, the VP heads the Senate, and the constitution is technically still in force, so there is a lot of potential power in that position (and danger, of course).


Makes sense, and the constitutional line of succession means the Presidency passes to Laurence, but since its under Section 4 since Melinda's comatose, not dead, it's going to be awkward. Also means Laurence'll likely have a target on his back almost immediately.
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Postby The Archipelago Territory » Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:33 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Castelia wrote:Hey, fellows.

I'm still in the process of making my character, but I'm still having trouble deciding on what position to go for. However, I'm leaning more into making my character be the equivalent of a foreign affairs minister. So with that said, I want to ask:

What is the current state of America's foreign affairs? Are we isolationist now, or do we still play a leading role on international affairs? Which nations do we have alliances with, what are our current policies, etc.

The US is very isolationist and protectionist, more concerned with American jobs than anything else. However, the Secretary of State plays a large role in hunting pirates and fighting drug trade in South America, and it is a major advocate for American business interests abroad. Major allies are the European Union, The Republic of the Two Koreas and Japan. One could wonder whether America would be better off supporting the Chinese Democratic Army, which holds the nation’s south and west. Africa is a major market for American goods, but also a major manufacturer competing with the American markets. Every American company has a major European competitor trying to outwit it across the world.

However, the US remains isolationist, and unwillingn to engage in major foreign policy.

But did Brexit happen then?
(Our ally is the EU so I want to know)
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Postby Lunas Legion » Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:41 am

The Archipelago Territory wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:The US is very isolationist and protectionist, more concerned with American jobs than anything else. However, the Secretary of State plays a large role in hunting pirates and fighting drug trade in South America, and it is a major advocate for American business interests abroad. Major allies are the European Union, The Republic of the Two Koreas and Japan. One could wonder whether America would be better off supporting the Chinese Democratic Army, which holds the nation’s south and west. Africa is a major market for American goods, but also a major manufacturer competing with the American markets. Every American company has a major European competitor trying to outwit it across the world.

However, the US remains isolationist, and unwillingn to engage in major foreign policy.

But did Brexit happen then?
(Our ally is the EU so I want to know)


I imagine NATO still exists, so the UK is still in alliance with the US.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:13 pm

The Archipelago Territory wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:The US is very isolationist and protectionist, more concerned with American jobs than anything else. However, the Secretary of State plays a large role in hunting pirates and fighting drug trade in South America, and it is a major advocate for American business interests abroad. Major allies are the European Union, The Republic of the Two Koreas and Japan. One could wonder whether America would be better off supporting the Chinese Democratic Army, which holds the nation’s south and west. Africa is a major market for American goods, but also a major manufacturer competing with the American markets. Every American company has a major European competitor trying to outwit it across the world.

However, the US remains isolationist, and unwillingn to engage in major foreign policy.

But did Brexit happen then?
(Our ally is the EU so I want to know)

Brexit was postponed for two more years after a promise to hold general elections, and a new referendum, but inconclusive results and the start of the Crisis meant Britain withdrew their article 50 declaration to work closer together on defence.

Lunas Legion wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:I’m thinking of making Laurence VP, as the Heir Apparent to the First Citizen. Problems will arise at once, of course, because of the question if that makes him First Citizen just like his mother, or if the positions of Pro Temp, Chief Justice and President are split at once. Besides, Laurence will have to appoint a new VP, and I believe the US Senate has to rubber-stamp it.

Mind, like was said before, the VP heads the Senate, and the constitution is technically still in force, so there is a lot of potential power in that position (and danger, of course).


Makes sense, and the constitutional line of succession means the Presidency passes to Laurence, but since its under Section 4 since Melinda's comatose, not dead, it's going to be awkward. Also means Laurence'll likely have a target on his back almost immediately.

Yeah, confusion is going to be the mantra of this operation. And, of course, having an untrustworthy vice president is a quick way to get killed.
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Postby The Archipelago Territory » Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:22 pm

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
The Archipelago Territory wrote:But did Brexit happen then?
(Our ally is the EU so I want to know)

Brexit was postponed for two more years after a promise to hold general elections, and a new referendum, but inconclusive results and the start of the Crisis meant Britain withdrew their article 50 declaration to work closer together on defence.

Lunas Legion wrote:
Makes sense, and the constitutional line of succession means the Presidency passes to Laurence, but since its under Section 4 since Melinda's comatose, not dead, it's going to be awkward. Also means Laurence'll likely have a target on his back almost immediately.

Yeah, confusion is going to be the mantra of this operation. And, of course, having an untrustworthy vice president is a quick way to get killed.

He doesn’t need a VP at all. They’re only good for tiebreaking senate votes (he should have no problem with that) and he could definitely not have one at all.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:49 pm

The Archipelago Territory wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Brexit was postponed for two more years after a promise to hold general elections, and a new referendum, but inconclusive results and the start of the Crisis meant Britain withdrew their article 50 declaration to work closer together on defence.


Yeah, confusion is going to be the mantra of this operation. And, of course, having an untrustworthy vice president is a quick way to get killed.

He doesn’t need a VP at all. They’re only good for tiebreaking senate votes (he should have no problem with that) and he could definitely not have one at all.


Under Section 2 of the Twenty-Fifth Amendment the President has to appoint a VP whenever the office is vacant to be approved by Congress, so he can't leave the office empty.
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Postby The Archipelago Territory » Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:52 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
The Archipelago Territory wrote:He doesn’t need a VP at all. They’re only good for tiebreaking senate votes (he should have no problem with that) and he could definitely not have one at all.


Under Section 2 of the Twenty-Fifth Amendment the President has to appoint a VP whenever the office is vacant to be approved by Congress, so he can't leave the office empty.

But he could make congress indefinitely delay the nomination
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Postby Lunas Legion » Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:56 pm

The Archipelago Territory wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
Under Section 2 of the Twenty-Fifth Amendment the President has to appoint a VP whenever the office is vacant to be approved by Congress, so he can't leave the office empty.

But he could make congress indefinitely delay the nomination


In theory, yes, Congress could never confirm the nomination, but it's a good position to give someone to either placate their own ambitions, or to keep an eye on someone less than friendly. Keep your friends close but your enemies closer and all that.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:02 pm

The Archipelago Territory wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
Under Section 2 of the Twenty-Fifth Amendment the President has to appoint a VP whenever the office is vacant to be approved by Congress, so he can't leave the office empty.

But he could make congress indefinitely delay the nomination

Melinda Delcastillo most definitely could. She could determine the schedule of the Senate and not schedule a vote on the matter. She most likely could suspend making a nomination, such is her clout in US politics.

Her son, while having her name, does not have the same clout. Regardless, it is even in question whether he would get the power to control Senate business. This comes back to the main question: Will Laurence become acting President or acting First Citizen?

Lunas Legion wrote:
The Archipelago Territory wrote:But he could make congress indefinitely delay the nomination


In theory, yes, Congress could never confirm the nomination, but it's a good position to give someone to either placate their own ambitions, or to keep an eye on someone less than friendly. Keep your friends close but your enemies closer and all that.

For instance. However, having a rival in a position that would make him or her president on your death might not increase your longevity.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:05 pm

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
In theory, yes, Congress could never confirm the nomination, but it's a good position to give someone to either placate their own ambitions, or to keep an eye on someone less than friendly. Keep your friends close but your enemies closer and all that.

For instance. However, having a rival in a position that would make him or her president on your death might not increase your longevity.


You do have to get away with it though which is the hard part.
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:38 pm

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Castelia wrote:Hey, fellows.

I'm still in the process of making my character, but I'm still having trouble deciding on what position to go for. However, I'm leaning more into making my character be the equivalent of a foreign affairs minister. So with that said, I want to ask:

What is the current state of America's foreign affairs? Are we isolationist now, or do we still play a leading role on international affairs? Which nations do we have alliances with, what are our current policies, etc.

The US is very isolationist and protectionist, more concerned with American jobs than anything else. However, the Secretary of State plays a large role in hunting pirates and fighting drug trade in South America, and it is a major advocate for American business interests abroad. Major allies are the European Union, The Republic of the Two Koreas and Japan. One could wonder whether America would be better off supporting the Chinese Democratic Army, which holds the nation’s south and west. Africa is a major market for American goods, but also a major manufacturer competing with the American markets. Every American company has a major European competitor trying to outwit it across the world.

However, the US remains isolationist, and unwillingn to engage in major foreign policy.

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Postby Duhon » Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:18 pm

A question: Will there be interaction (positive and otherwise) by representatives from other nations during the course of this RP? Or will it be all exclusive to Delcastillo's family, confidantes, and closest allies (and their respective families)?

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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:34 pm

Duhon wrote:A question: Will there be interaction (positive and otherwise) by representatives from other nations during the course of this RP? Or will it be all exclusive to Delcastillo's family, confidantes, and closest allies (and their respective families)?

It will very much focus on the latter, however players can talk to foreign reps if they need to.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:18 am

The IC has been posted! Welcome aboard, everyone. You can respond in any way you like, you can assume that your character has been informed if it has not been explicitly stated in the OP.

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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Aug 03, 2019 7:18 am

Looks nice but I’d use Emory or Grady Memorial for the hospital name in Atlanta instead of Atlanta Medical Center.

If you need any other help regarding place names in Atlanta I’m glad to assist, considering that I’ve spent the vast majority of my life in Atlanta
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Sat Aug 03, 2019 7:25 am

Thermodolia wrote:Looks nice but I’d use Emory or Grady Memorial for the hospital name in Atlanta instead of Atlanta Medical Center.

If you need any other help regarding place names in Atlanta I’m glad to assist, considering that I’ve spent the vast majority of my life in Atlanta

Ohh, thanks! I was going with the Wellstar Atlanta Medical Centre, since it’s so close to the airport. You think Emory or Grady are better picks?
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Aug 03, 2019 7:50 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Looks nice but I’d use Emory or Grady Memorial for the hospital name in Atlanta instead of Atlanta Medical Center.

If you need any other help regarding place names in Atlanta I’m glad to assist, considering that I’ve spent the vast majority of my life in Atlanta

Ohh, thanks! I was going with the Wellstar Atlanta Medical Centre, since it’s so close to the airport. You think Emory or Grady are better picks?

Grady is the best hospital in the southeast US. It’s a level 4 trauma hospital. Emory is connected with the CDC so they have access to just about anything and all US Ebola patients are sent there.

So I’d say Emory is probably the best option considering the high rank of the individual
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Postby The Archipelago Territory » Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:02 am

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Postby The Archipelago Territory » Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:09 am

Wait who is Ann?
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The Archipelago Territory wrote:Wait who is Ann?

Anne Arthurs is the personal aide to the President. Not a cabinet secretary, but a personal secretary to the president, much like Reggie Love IRL.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:52 am

Ow, Lunas, just to be sure: Delcastillo has not died yet. She has slipped into a coma, but she has not passed on yet. As such, Laurence is only acting President. You probably knew that, but just to make it very clear. But your assessment of the situation is correct.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:30 am

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Name: James Lawrence
Position: Secretary of Defense, Joint Chief of Staff, Secretary of the Navy, Admiral of the Fleet
Age: 70
Appearance:
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First Impression: The First Impression people get is a man who isn’t capable or knows what he’s doing. Many think that he’s dull and dimwitted. In reality Lawrence is anything but, the dull, dimwitted, incapable impression is a carefully crafted ruse.
Outward personality: Simple Minded, extremely Loyal, Both to the the First Citizen and anyone else, yet also dull and somewhat of a doormat. This outward personality is again apart of a constructed ruse to hide his true interests.
Character history: Born January 7th, 1997 James Lawrence lived a simple life until he decided to join the Navy at age 18. During the constitutional crisis he was but a lowly ensign in the American Navy. However he quickly supported the First Citizen and helped to crush opposition to her.

For the next 40 years he would quickly rise the ranks to become the “First Citizen of the Military” so to speak. He simultaneously controls the positions of Secretary of Defense, Secretary of the Navy, Joint Chief of Staff, and Admiral of the Fleet. Nothing in the military gets by without his consent. In terms of military power he is the second in command of the military to only the First Citizen.

Describe the last time your character and Melinda Delcastillo spoke: The last time Melinda and James spoke it was ironically about what should be done, militarily, if she died or was incapacitated. James argued for a nation wide martial law however She wanted nothing to with that. Instead relying on the FBI, headed by the arch-rival of Lawrence, to control the nation.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Sat Aug 03, 2019 10:19 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Ow, Lunas, just to be sure: Delcastillo has not died yet. She has slipped into a coma, but she has not passed on yet. As such, Laurence is only acting President. You probably knew that, but just to make it very clear. But your assessment of the situation is correct.


Georgia is running on acting President = President as far as she's concerned in terms of practicalities, Delcastillo may not be dead yet but she isn't putting much stock in her waking up or returning to office even if she does after this scare.
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:28 am

I'll be writing up a post within a day, but just so we're clear on the relationships, Will Delcastillo probably only personally knows Nathan Anderson and Connor Wright, as people who work close to the First Citizen; and he's probably met almost everyone here from some dinner party or another, probably even shaken hands with all of them. Nobody will even think of him as some kind of contender for "the throne" perhaps not until he shows up - or, at least, they'll think of Laurence as more dangerous than Will, that's how effectively he was sidelined by the First Citizen for the past twenty years.

Both Nathan and Connor will probably be more in tuned with Will's comings and goings than everybody else - they would probably know that there's a chance that Laurence called his brother - but everybody else wouldn't even think about it, most likely.

Oh and Hamilton almost definitely would have a file on Will. Knowing the First Citizen she wouldn't just let him retire to nowhere Minnesota without having somebody keep their eye on him, even if it's not a 24/7 guy three cars down with a pair of binoculars. Maybe even a tap on their phone lines, a few listening bugs here and there, or a tracker on their internet histories. Probably knows more about Will than his daughter or even wife does.
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