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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:33 pm

Alozia wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:"My plan isn't to take down Hazelponi, but rather to put myself in power. I will use free market policies to appeal to the Reaganites and the Tea Party, then use a mild stance on immigration to appeal to HIspanics and liberal Republicans and turn around, offer 12 week abortion and homophobic policies to appeal to conservative Republicans. I am very much a centrist in the Republican Party, in my view, and that is how I shall frame myself."

Mask off, lol.

That was a complete and utter accident, whoops.
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Postby Alozia » Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:34 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Alozia wrote:Mask off, lol.

That was a complete and utter accident, whoops.

Sure it was.
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Postby Alozia » Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:35 pm

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The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:That was a complete and utter accident, whoops.

Sure it was.

I seriously can't think of an alternative here. Like there's no way he misspoke, maybe it was a freudian slip.
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:35 pm

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The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:That was a complete and utter accident, whoops.

Sure it was.

My brain just went "How do you define a ban on gay adoption? Homophobia." on accident. I fixed it now.
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:36 pm

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Alozia wrote:Sure it was.

I seriously can't think of an alternative here. Like there's no way he misspoke, maybe it was a freudian slip.

Nah, writer's mistake. It's 11:30pm here and I'm half-asleep.

EDIT: In another RP, I just typed up "...and use castles to defend their heavily forested and snowy land." in an MT RP. CASTLES IN MT. I really need to sleep now.
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Postby Dentali » Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:38 pm

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Alozia wrote:Sure it was.

I seriously can't think of an alternative here. Like there's no way he misspoke, maybe it was a freudian slip.



Anderson could have definitely looked past being against gay marriage if it was on true principle, but right now the way Mateo is referring to these groups and policies is like he is just trying to pander to a ideology he doesn't actually believe in.
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Postby Dentali » Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:38 pm

You can't change something after someone else posted, thats the RP rules you need to own it
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Postby Alozia » Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:39 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Alozia wrote:I seriously can't think of an alternative here. Like there's no way he misspoke, maybe it was a freudian slip.

Nah, writer's mistake. It's 11:30pm here and I'm half-asleep.

EDIT: In another RP, I just typed up "...and use castles to defend their heavily forested and snowy land." in an MT RP. CASTLES IN MT. I really need to sleep now.

Look at you. Can't handle a 11:30p.m. sesh. Sheesh.
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:43 pm

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Alozia wrote:I seriously can't think of an alternative here. Like there's no way he misspoke, maybe it was a freudian slip.



Anderson could have definitely looked past being against gay marriage if it was on true principle, but right now the way Mateo is referring to these groups and policies is like he is just trying to pander to a ideology he doesn't actually believe in.

He wasn't talking about gay marriage and will soon clarify that in the next post.
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Postby Alozia » Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:44 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:"Look, we're talking strategy here and what appeals to certain groups. I generally mean a ban on gay couples adopting. Marriage is up to the church to decide, not me. Statistics do show, after all, that children with gay parents are worse off, so there is some pragmatic reasoning for it. Gay marriage, not my problem."

Citation really needed.
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:47 pm

Alozia wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:"Look, we're talking strategy here and what appeals to certain groups. I generally mean a ban on gay couples adopting. Marriage is up to the church to decide, not me. Statistics do show, after all, that children with gay parents are worse off, so there is some pragmatic reasoning for it. Gay marriage, not my problem."

Citation really needed.

I don't personally trust the statistics, but here: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kids-of-ga ... m-experts/

Again, the studies are shaky, but Mateo believes in it because confirmation bias.
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Postby Dentali » Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:50 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Alozia wrote:Citation really needed.

I don't personally trust the statistics, but here: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kids-of-ga ... m-experts/

Again, the studies are shaky, but Mateo believes in it because confirmation bias.



Yea this study's methodology is terrible
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:51 pm

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The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:I don't personally trust the statistics, but here: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kids-of-ga ... m-experts/

Again, the studies are shaky, but Mateo believes in it because confirmation bias.



Yea this study's methodology is terrible

Yep, but whatever you can tell the people on Fox News that agrees with their viewpoint might as well be the truth to them. Politics isn't about telling the truth, but about inspiring certain feelings.
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“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.

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Postby Alozia » Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:51 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Alozia wrote:Citation really needed.

I don't personally trust the statistics, but here: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kids-of-ga ... m-experts/

Again, the studies are shaky, but Mateo believes in it because confirmation bias.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... are-skewed
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:53 pm

Alozia wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:I don't personally trust the statistics, but here: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kids-of-ga ... m-experts/

Again, the studies are shaky, but Mateo believes in it because confirmation bias.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... are-skewed

I know that OOC, but confirmation bias is confirmation bias.
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Postby Dentali » Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:55 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Dentali wrote:

Yea this study's methodology is terrible

Yep, but whatever you can tell the people on Fox News that agrees with their viewpoint might as well be the truth to them. Politics isn't about telling the truth, but about inspiring certain feelings.



Mild tangent... Fox actually partly outsources its polling/studies/surveys and its really good accurate stuff.
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:56 pm

I'm going to guess Mateo sounds like the right-wing, American version of Petrov to Anderson now, huh?
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Postby Dentali » Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:59 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:I'm going to guess Mateo sounds like the right-wing, American version of Petrov to Anderson now, huh?



Quick hint, Anderson is a policy guy. Throw some numbers at him, some specifics... Right now its mostly rhetoric
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:00 pm

Also, what's Reed's economic stance as it appears to the public so far?
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Postby Vaquas » Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:01 pm

My God that study is incredibly flawed on multiple fronts.

One point though, being poor is the factor that feeds into many of the areas that children of SS parents “underperform” in it would seem, according to this survey, which makes sense if its to be believed given that on average LGBT people are more likely to be impoverished than their straight counterparts.
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Postby Dentali » Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:02 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Also, what's Reed's economic stance as it appears to the public so far?



Most concerned with balancing budgets but is willing to raise taxes, avoided most trade issues as far as im aware
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:07 pm

Ah Mateo, ticking off everyone at the same time with the best words
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Postby Vaquas » Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:08 pm

Not sure about polling on gay adoption but if rhetoric from the right is to be believed about the marriage issue being sacred and civil unions being acceptable then support for Adoption is probably even higher than for marriage.
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Postby Vaquas » Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:09 pm

Tallahassee News Station wrote:Ah Mateo, ticking off everyone at the same time with the best words


I don’t see how its even a coherent strategy, Hazel likely has the religious anti-gay bloc locked up with her vote for POMA
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Postby Dentali » Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:10 pm

Vaquas wrote:Not sure about polling on gay adoption but if rhetoric from the right is to be believed about the marriage issue being sacred and civil unions being acceptable then support for Adoption is probably even higher than for marriage.



Hey its growing pains for UCC, learning about actual conservative positions and the reasoning behind it is excellent for growth both as a player and a human being. Inevitably their will be mistakes
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