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The Archipelago Territory
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Postby The Archipelago Territory » Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:33 pm

Strike Group Essex: Personnel File
Required Information


Name|Rank|Role:
Paul Roland ( Sir Roland of Chromewell| Knight in the Order of the Camellia

Age|Height|Weight:
30 | 6 feet | 190

Allegiance|Character Class:
To the Emperor and the Order of Camellia

Magic Sensitivity:
Null

D.O.B|Birthplace|Nationality
January 7, 1989 | Chromewell, Corlean Empire | Corleanian
Sex|Sexuality:
Male Heterosexual

Appearance Image & Description:
[img](place%20URL%20here)[/img]

Image As a squire
Image as a knight
Image As an Enforcer Knight

Biography:

Born into a noble family in the Empire of Corleans, Paul always dreamed of being a knight, until both his parents died and he was picked by a knight to be his squire. As a squire he fought in several battles although never received credit for it, which shaped him as a knight by giving him experience. When he was 19 he was deployed with the knights in a battle with a foreign army during an expansionist war, in which the knights and squires died and him and a few knights were severely injured but able to fend off enough of the enemy to escape with a few survivors. The Emperor knighted him to take the place of the knight who died, and knighted several others in a ceremony.

He joined the The Order of the Camellia as a knight, and fought in battles, although he didn’t advance his career very much in the order, until he decided to stop fighting in battles and instead policing the empire when he was 28. During his time in the order, he was very close to the Emperor and remains loyal to the crown. While policing he forged a new suit of armor that was threatening to look intimidating. He is widely feared as a top enforcer, but he doesn’t have much political power.

When Essex arrived in the South, Sir Roland was with his fellow knights policing the area, when the marines shot and killed a knight out of ignorance to the situation. He took cover, and took a few shots to his leg and shoulder, but his armor protected him as he and a few knights as they fled the area. While he tried to save his lord, machine gun fire caused knock-back, and his armor started deteriorating. This was the second time that he survived an attack on his squad while his fellow knights died, and he returned to the palace and vowed to avenge the knights that were killed by returning to combat and fighting the marines

Personality:

Non-Required Information


Past Occupations, Positions, Roles, Ranks and Achievements: Squire to a Knight in the Order, Knight in the Order, currently an Enforcer Knight in the order

Equipment:
  • Primary Weapon: large blade
  • Secondary Weapon: metallic armor, iron fist
  • Additional Munitions: knife
  • Uniform Equipment: Gold/Iron Armor and cape as seen in picture
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Postby Dayganistan » Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:34 pm

I still kind of want to participate but I'm kind of having trouble coming up with a character. Would there be much use for a JTAC or artillery forward observer on the Earth side?

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Postby Orostan » Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:45 pm

Amarian Union wrote:
Orostan wrote:It's a peasant revolt, mostly.



You know how well this is gonna go, right? I’d hate to burst your bubble but it wouldn’t end well or even function in this RP. Two characters or so can communicate with animals and pretty much gather intelligence on almost anything including a guerrilla war and, not to mention, the entire thing won’t work in this context (there hasn’t been any build up whatsoever to it and to have it appear outta nowhere won’t work out for the RP, especially since the focus is on the CRP, not necessarily third party factions). I know you’re really addament about this but it won’t function in this kind of RP. Now, if Leg has an idea how to work it, then that’s a discussion tkcbe has with him but, in all honesty, a rebellion won’t function in the RP; not right out of the gate or not without the appropriate conditions to start one.

You are telling me a large feudal empire does not have revolts? Peasant revolts were a common thing in antiquity and the Middle Ages.
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Postby The Archipelago Territory » Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:05 pm

Orostan wrote:
Amarian Union wrote:

You know how well this is gonna go, right? I’d hate to burst your bubble but it wouldn’t end well or even function in this RP. Two characters or so can communicate with animals and pretty much gather intelligence on almost anything including a guerrilla war and, not to mention, the entire thing won’t work in this context (there hasn’t been any build up whatsoever to it and to have it appear outta nowhere won’t work out for the RP, especially since the focus is on the CRP, not necessarily third party factions). I know you’re really addament about this but it won’t function in this kind of RP. Now, if Leg has an idea how to work it, then that’s a discussion tkcbe has with him but, in all honesty, a rebellion won’t function in the RP; not right out of the gate or not without the appropriate conditions to start one.

You are telling me a large feudal empire does not have revolts? Peasant revolts were a common thing in antiquity and the Middle Ages.

No, we’re telling you it’s gonna ruin the RP
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Postby Amarian Union » Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:05 pm

Here’s the thing:

This one is coming outta nowhere with no connection to the plot so far. It just comes right out of nowhere. Not to mention if you want a movement, you’d have to actively start one. No one will hand you a peasant revolt just because you asked for one. You have to RP these actions, influence the setting in the RP, etc. Not to mention, your little revolt revolves around values that wouldn’t be around in this setting; communism is a far cry from this world’s values to revolve around. And, to be honest, your peasant revolt would throw the entire story focus off. This RP is focused on the CRP And their encounters and experiences on this world and it doesn’t include a left-field communist revolution. Your little revolt would completely subvert the focus of the RP and by the time we get a baring for what’s goinf, we wouldn’t be able to effectively keep track of everything. Hell, by the time we get to a certain point, you would’ve subverted the government instantly, expect every imperial character to convert or be killed if not and basically create a Soviet Union in the RP, which doesn’t fit the setting and goals of the RP at all.

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Postby Orostan » Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:13 pm

Amarian Union wrote:Here’s the thing:

This one is coming outta nowhere with no connection to the plot so far. It just comes right out of nowhere. Not to mention if you want a movement, you’d have to actively start one. No one will hand you a peasant revolt just because you asked for one. You have to RP these actions, influence the setting in the RP, etc. Not to mention, your little revolt revolves around values that wouldn’t be around in this setting; communism is a far cry from this world’s values to revolve around. And, to be honest, your peasant revolt would throw the entire story focus off. This RP is focused on the CRP And their encounters and experiences on this world and it doesn’t include a left-field communist revolution. Your little revolt would completely subvert the focus of the RP and by the time we get a baring for what’s goinf, we wouldn’t be able to effectively keep track of everything. Hell, by the time we get to a certain point, you would’ve subverted the government instantly, expect every imperial character to convert or be killed if not and basically create a Soviet Union in the RP, which doesn’t fit the setting and goals of the RP at all.

That’s not what I want to do though. I have applied before for this and am offering to change my application to something acceptable.
“It is difficult for me to imagine what “personal liberty” is enjoyed by an unemployed hungry person. True freedom can only be where there is no exploitation and oppression of one person by another; where there is not unemployment, and where a person is not living in fear of losing his job, his home and his bread. Only in such a society personal and any other freedom can exist for real and not on paper.” -J. V. STALIN

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Postby Sterkistan » Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:24 pm

Dayganistan wrote:I still kind of want to participate but I'm kind of having trouble coming up with a character. Would there be much use for a JTAC or artillery forward observer on the Earth side?

Obligatory not an OP notice.

Honestly, probably not. I'm under the impression we aren't carrying any grounded artillery. The most firepower we've got is on the ships. But we need people for the CRP, seeing as people in the ships won't get much screen time.

Edit: As the OP has informed me, I forgot we had jets. So yes JTAC would be lit
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Postby Amarian Union » Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:25 pm

Orostan wrote:
Amarian Union wrote:Here’s the thing:

This one is coming outta nowhere with no connection to the plot so far. It just comes right out of nowhere. Not to mention if you want a movement, you’d have to actively start one. No one will hand you a peasant revolt just because you asked for one. You have to RP these actions, influence the setting in the RP, etc. Not to mention, your little revolt revolves around values that wouldn’t be around in this setting; communism is a far cry from this world’s values to revolve around. And, to be honest, your peasant revolt would throw the entire story focus off. This RP is focused on the CRP And their encounters and experiences on this world and it doesn’t include a left-field communist revolution. Your little revolt would completely subvert the focus of the RP and by the time we get a baring for what’s goinf, we wouldn’t be able to effectively keep track of everything. Hell, by the time we get to a certain point, you would’ve subverted the government instantly, expect every imperial character to convert or be killed if not and basically create a Soviet Union in the RP, which doesn’t fit the setting and goals of the RP at all.

That’s not what I want to do though. I have applied before for this and am offering to change my application to something acceptable.



But that’s up to Leg to see if it is but I don’t see how a rebellion still is acceptable, especially if, again, it will derail the focus of the RP.

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Postby Orostan » Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:52 pm

Amarian Union wrote:
Orostan wrote:That’s not what I want to do though. I have applied before for this and am offering to change my application to something acceptable.



But that’s up to Leg to see if it is but I don’t see how a rebellion still is acceptable, especially if, again, it will derail the focus of the RP.

As I understand it the focus of this RP is how a boat of US marines interacts with a feudal empire. Revolts are part of feudal empires existing.
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Ernest Hemingway wrote:Anyone who loves freedom owes such a debt to the Red Army that it can never be repaid.
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Postby Legatia » Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:55 pm

Dayganistan wrote:I still kind of want to participate but I'm kind of having trouble coming up with a character. Would there be much use for a JTAC or artillery forward observer on the Earth side?

Come to think of it,absolutely! A JTAC would be warmly welcomed.

Orostan wrote:
Legatia wrote:
I’m not seeing how. If you want to re-apply as something that fits the fold better, go ahead, but in its form as applied I will be denying both.

How about a guerrilla war against the Empire being fought mostly through ambushes and raids in some of the southern provinces?


It's become apparent to me that you are interested in playing as a faction, and not as a character. This is not a faction RP. As I stated before, we do not have a lot of room for side-arching plots from what I have planned.

Unless you are interested in playing as a singular character, and having whatever arcs you run focused around the character, I don't think this is the RP for you.

The Archipelago Territory wrote:Strike Group Essex: Personnel File
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Name|Rank|Role:
Paul Roland ( Sir Roland of Chromewell| Knight in the Order of the Camellia


We talked a bit over Discord, but it's not possible to be one of the former lord of the Trust Territory's retainer knights and a member of the Order of Camellia simultaneously. One owes its fealty only to its lord, the other would owe its fealty to the Emperor.

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Postby Rupudska » Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:23 pm

Amarian Union, please use past tense and not the weird future-in-the-past (Raven would X, Raven would be X) that you're using.

Post incoming, but it won't be a long one as I'm travelling and will be all week.

I'm doing what I've seen some GATE fanfics do and putting words in the local language with [vague/multiple/several] meanings, or that Ginger and/or the Essex Fleet members would be [unsure/confused/unknowing] of in brackets.
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Postby Ormata » Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:48 pm

You're all free to notice Kiles and Sienne on the road.

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Postby Orostan » Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:56 pm

Legatia wrote:
Dayganistan wrote:I still kind of want to participate but I'm kind of having trouble coming up with a character. Would there be much use for a JTAC or artillery forward observer on the Earth side?

Come to think of it,absolutely! A JTAC would be warmly welcomed.

Orostan wrote:How about a guerrilla war against the Empire being fought mostly through ambushes and raids in some of the southern provinces?


It's become apparent to me that you are interested in playing as a faction, and not as a character. This is not a faction RP. As I stated before, we do not have a lot of room for side-arching plots from what I have planned.

Unless you are interested in playing as a singular character, and having whatever arcs you run focused around the character, I don't think this is the RP for you.

The Archipelago Territory wrote:Strike Group Essex: Personnel File
Required Information


Name|Rank|Role:
Paul Roland ( Sir Roland of Chromewell| Knight in the Order of the Camellia


We talked a bit over Discord, but it's not possible to be one of the former lord of the Trust Territory's retainer knights and a member of the Order of Camellia simultaneously. One owes its fealty only to its lord, the other would owe its fealty to the Emperor.

If you didn’t want factions why did you put a faction app in the OP? I’m open to my guy just being the leader of a bandit group or something looking to start a peasant revolt.
“It is difficult for me to imagine what “personal liberty” is enjoyed by an unemployed hungry person. True freedom can only be where there is no exploitation and oppression of one person by another; where there is not unemployment, and where a person is not living in fear of losing his job, his home and his bread. Only in such a society personal and any other freedom can exist for real and not on paper.” -J. V. STALIN

Ernest Hemingway wrote:Anyone who loves freedom owes such a debt to the Red Army that it can never be repaid.
#FreeNSGRojava

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Postby Amarian Union » Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:31 pm

Rupudska wrote:Amarian Union, please use past tense and not the weird future-in-the-past (Raven would X, Raven would be X) that you're using.

Post incoming, but it won't be a long one as I'm travelling and will be all week.

I'm doing what I've seen some GATE fanfics do and putting words in the local language with [vague/multiple/several] meanings, or that Ginger and/or the Essex Fleet members would be [unsure/confused/unknowing] of in brackets.


It’s how I roleplay and that’s how every roleplay I’ve ever partaken In was done. Gotta deal with it.

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Postby Mediama » Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:55 pm

Ormata wrote:You're all free to notice Kiles and Sienne on the road.


I’ll RP it, just waiting for more posts to get through so I don’t accidentally speed up the RP.
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Postby Sterkistan » Sun Jul 07, 2019 7:01 pm

Orostan wrote:
Legatia wrote: Come to think of it,absolutely! A JTAC would be warmly welcomed.



It's become apparent to me that you are interested in playing as a faction, and not as a character. This is not a faction RP. As I stated before, we do not have a lot of room for side-arching plots from what I have planned.

Unless you are interested in playing as a singular character, and having whatever arcs you run focused around the character, I don't think this is the RP for you.



We talked a bit over Discord, but it's not possible to be one of the former lord of the Trust Territory's retainer knights and a member of the Order of Camellia simultaneously. One owes its fealty only to its lord, the other would owe its fealty to the Emperor.

If you didn’t want factions why did you put a faction app in the OP? I’m open to my guy just being the leader of a bandit group or something looking to start a peasant revolt.

Factions were added so that players could add groups that would be meaningful to the story. A peasant revolt is not meaningful or necessary to the story. It's you wanting to push something into an RP that doesn't fit it.
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Postby Orostan » Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:32 pm

Sterkistan wrote:
Orostan wrote:If you didn’t want factions why did you put a faction app in the OP? I’m open to my guy just being the leader of a bandit group or something looking to start a peasant revolt.

Factions were added so that players could add groups that would be meaningful to the story. A peasant revolt is not meaningful or necessary to the story. It's you wanting to push something into an RP that doesn't fit it.

I have repeatedly offered to compromise, and what makes a peasant revolt less meaningful or necessary to the story?
“It is difficult for me to imagine what “personal liberty” is enjoyed by an unemployed hungry person. True freedom can only be where there is no exploitation and oppression of one person by another; where there is not unemployment, and where a person is not living in fear of losing his job, his home and his bread. Only in such a society personal and any other freedom can exist for real and not on paper.” -J. V. STALIN

Ernest Hemingway wrote:Anyone who loves freedom owes such a debt to the Red Army that it can never be repaid.
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Postby Sterkistan » Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:54 pm

Orostan wrote:
Sterkistan wrote:Factions were added so that players could add groups that would be meaningful to the story. A peasant revolt is not meaningful or necessary to the story. It's you wanting to push something into an RP that doesn't fit it.

I have repeatedly offered to compromise, and what makes a peasant revolt less meaningful or necessary to the story?

Because it has nothing to do with the actual focus of the story? All it serves to do to the overarching plot of Marines in a new world is throw it off course. We're not getting caught up in a meaningless revolt. You also offer to compromise, but at no point have offered to actually make any meaningful compromise.
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Postby Legatia » Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:04 pm

Orostan wrote:
Sterkistan wrote:Factions were added so that players could add groups that would be meaningful to the story. A peasant revolt is not meaningful or necessary to the story. It's you wanting to push something into an RP that doesn't fit it.

I have repeatedly offered to compromise, and what makes a peasant revolt less meaningful or necessary to the story?


Faction apps are to denote groups within either the Empire or the Strike Group from an organizational standpoint. They're more a grouping nicety than an integral part of the RP.

Starting a peasant revolt would immediately and seriously distract from the premise of two worlds colliding and interacting. The Strike Group would have the complicated factor of how to deal with such a group, and the Empire's focus will not be fully available to interact with the Strike Group.

Again, this is a character RP. If you played a character trying to start a peasant revolt, your focus would be on the revolt, not on your character's interactions with others, and you would likely be very detached from the whole story, off on your own tangents.

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Postby Orostan » Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:39 pm

Sterkistan wrote:
Orostan wrote:I have repeatedly offered to compromise, and what makes a peasant revolt less meaningful or necessary to the story?

Because it has nothing to do with the actual focus of the story? All it serves to do to the overarching plot of Marines in a new world is throw it off course. We're not getting caught up in a meaningless revolt. You also offer to compromise, but at no point have offered to actually make any meaningful compromise.

I have repeatedly offered to scale back what I suggest and came back to this thread to, again, offer to compromise so that I can take part in this. Whatever course this RP has its going to be a course largely determined by what the players do, making your statement both irrelevant and wrong. In addition, a revolt would be far from meaningless. I think it’d be interesting, but Legatia does not think so.

Legatia wrote:
Orostan wrote:I have repeatedly offered to compromise, and what makes a peasant revolt less meaningful or necessary to the story?


Faction apps are to denote groups within either the Empire or the Strike Group from an organizational standpoint. They're more a grouping nicety than an integral part of the RP.

Starting a peasant revolt would immediately and seriously distract from the premise of two worlds colliding and interacting. The Strike Group would have the complicated factor of how to deal with such a group, and the Empire's focus will not be fully available to interact with the Strike Group.

Again, this is a character RP. If you played a character trying to start a peasant revolt, your focus would be on the revolt, not on your character's interactions with others, and you would likely be very detached from the whole story, off on your own tangents.

Alright, but I thought forcing the marines to choose between aligning with a despotic empire for supplies and whatever principles they have would be interesting. Maybe my character should only be planning a revolt, and ask the marines for support. I’m open to integrating this into the RP in whatever way you think would do well.
“It is difficult for me to imagine what “personal liberty” is enjoyed by an unemployed hungry person. True freedom can only be where there is no exploitation and oppression of one person by another; where there is not unemployment, and where a person is not living in fear of losing his job, his home and his bread. Only in such a society personal and any other freedom can exist for real and not on paper.” -J. V. STALIN

Ernest Hemingway wrote:Anyone who loves freedom owes such a debt to the Red Army that it can never be repaid.
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Postby Sterkistan » Sun Jul 07, 2019 10:11 pm

Orostan wrote:
Sterkistan wrote:Because it has nothing to do with the actual focus of the story? All it serves to do to the overarching plot of Marines in a new world is throw it off course. We're not getting caught up in a meaningless revolt. You also offer to compromise, but at no point have offered to actually make any meaningful compromise.

I have repeatedly offered to scale back what I suggest and came back to this thread to, again, offer to compromise so that I can take part in this. Whatever course this RP has its going to be a course largely determined by what the players do, making your statement both irrelevant and wrong. In addition, a revolt would be far from meaningless. I think it’d be interesting, but Legatia does not think so.

Legatia wrote:
Faction apps are to denote groups within either the Empire or the Strike Group from an organizational standpoint. They're more a grouping nicety than an integral part of the RP.

Starting a peasant revolt would immediately and seriously distract from the premise of two worlds colliding and interacting. The Strike Group would have the complicated factor of how to deal with such a group, and the Empire's focus will not be fully available to interact with the Strike Group.

Again, this is a character RP. If you played a character trying to start a peasant revolt, your focus would be on the revolt, not on your character's interactions with others, and you would likely be very detached from the whole story, off on your own tangents.

Alright, but I thought forcing the marines to choose between aligning with a despotic empire for supplies and whatever principles they have would be interesting. Maybe my character should only be planning a revolt, and ask the marines for support. I’m open to integrating this into the RP in whatever way you think would do well.

See, here's the issue. You're not offering any compromise because you've flat out been told no on several occasions by the op that you cannot have a revolt. And yet you keep coming back trying to push the idea of a revolt. You once again mistake what kind of rp this is. It is not a sandbox, it is Legatia creating and telling a story. Our characters are along for the ride and contribute to the experience. We are not free to go off and prance about with a communist rebellion.
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Postby Orostan » Sun Jul 07, 2019 10:18 pm

Sterkistan wrote:
Orostan wrote:I have repeatedly offered to scale back what I suggest and came back to this thread to, again, offer to compromise so that I can take part in this. Whatever course this RP has its going to be a course largely determined by what the players do, making your statement both irrelevant and wrong. In addition, a revolt would be far from meaningless. I think it’d be interesting, but Legatia does not think so.


Alright, but I thought forcing the marines to choose between aligning with a despotic empire for supplies and whatever principles they have would be interesting. Maybe my character should only be planning a revolt, and ask the marines for support. I’m open to integrating this into the RP in whatever way you think would do well.

See, here's the issue. You're not offering any compromise because you've flat out been told no on several occasions by the op that you cannot have a revolt. And yet you keep coming back trying to push the idea of a revolt. You once again mistake what kind of rp this is. It is not a sandbox, it is Legatia creating and telling a story. Our characters are along for the ride and contribute to the experience. We are not free to go off and prance about with a communist rebellion.

>waaaaah how dare anyone want to do anything waaaaaah

I’m perfectly open to playing as just one guy, I wouldn’t have submitted the idea for a revolt if I knew that was illegal when I was writing up the post.
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Postby Sterkistan » Sun Jul 07, 2019 10:34 pm

Orostan wrote:
Sterkistan wrote:See, here's the issue. You're not offering any compromise because you've flat out been told no on several occasions by the op that you cannot have a revolt. And yet you keep coming back trying to push the idea of a revolt. You once again mistake what kind of rp this is. It is not a sandbox, it is Legatia creating and telling a story. Our characters are along for the ride and contribute to the experience. We are not free to go off and prance about with a communist rebellion.

>waaaaah how dare anyone want to do anything waaaaaah

I’m perfectly open to playing as just one guy, I wouldn’t have submitted the idea for a revolt if I knew that was illegal when I was writing up the post.

Then app a single guy, I won't argue against you doing that.
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Postby Amarian Union » Sun Jul 07, 2019 10:50 pm

Orostan wrote:
Sterkistan wrote:See, here's the issue. You're not offering any compromise because you've flat out been told no on several occasions by the op that you cannot have a revolt. And yet you keep coming back trying to push the idea of a revolt. You once again mistake what kind of rp this is. It is not a sandbox, it is Legatia creating and telling a story. Our characters are along for the ride and contribute to the experience. We are not free to go off and prance about with a communist rebellion.

>waaaaah how dare anyone want to do anything waaaaaah

I’m perfectly open to playing as just one guy, I wouldn’t have submitted the idea for a revolt if I knew that was illegal when I was writing up the post.



I think we’d appreciate it if you didn’t act snarky; just make the changes and wait for approval. No need for elementary school level sarcasm or remarks.

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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:12 am

Not paying attention to the Sarge? That’s a court martial.
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