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Northern Davincia
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Founded: Jun 10, 2014
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Jul 06, 2019 6:13 pm

Lysone wrote:"Madame Speaker, ours is a new nation, ours are a freshly independent people. My question to the first democratically elected government of this new state is whether the people that reside in it will get a choice in how they are to be governed? When will they be given a chance to throw off the shackles of the legacy of colonialism and vote for a true democratic future as a republic?"

"This nation's history, culture, and legal traditions are inseparably tied to that Sweden. The ceremonial role of the crown is how we pay respect to an honorable legacy."
Right-Libertarian, Minarchist, Laissez-faire Capitalist, Catholic

Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."

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East Meranopirus
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Founded: Jul 28, 2018
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby East Meranopirus » Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:21 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Lysone wrote:"Madame Speaker, ours is a new nation, ours are a freshly independent people. My question to the first democratically elected government of this new state is whether the people that reside in it will get a choice in how they are to be governed? When will they be given a chance to throw off the shackles of the legacy of colonialism and vote for a true democratic future as a republic?"

"This nation's history, culture, and legal traditions are inseparably tied to that Sweden. The ceremonial role of the crown is how we pay respect to an honorable legacy."

"If that is the view of the government, then how do you justify the inclusion of SHAPC, a nationalist and anti-colonialist, pan-Caribbean party, in your coalition?"
Elusively never IC in the WA forums. Also author of (probably soon to be repealed) GA Resolution #464

Co-Founder of The Democratic Union

Representing the Social Democratic Party as Albin Lundberg in NS Parliament. Fight for freedom, equality, and prosperity for the people!

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Rebels and Saints
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Founded: Apr 01, 2019
Mother Knows Best State

Postby Rebels and Saints » Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:37 pm

East Meranopirus wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:"This nation's history, culture, and legal traditions are inseparably tied to that Sweden. The ceremonial role of the crown is how we pay respect to an honorable legacy."

"If that is the view of the government, then how do you justify the inclusion of SHAPC, a nationalist and anti-colonialist, pan-Caribbean party, in your coalition?"


"We get their votes, they get a spot. Get over your idealistic fantasies. Politics is played out in deals and trades."
MBTI: ENTP-A
Zodiac: Aquarius
House: Slytherin or Gryffindor, depending on the day.
Which Virtue Am I?: Diligence
Which Sin Am I?: Wrath
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I like to argue. I don't have anything against you. I don't dislike you. Sometimes my mouth gets ahead of me. It's just something I do, and I'll be just as happy to be your friend after the argument as before it.

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Van Hool Islands
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Founded: Nov 12, 2016
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Van Hool Islands » Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:42 pm

Rebels and Saints wrote:
East Meranopirus wrote:"If that is the view of the government, then how do you justify the inclusion of SHAPC, a nationalist and anti-colonialist, pan-Caribbean party, in your coalition?"


"We get their votes, they get a spot. Get over your idealistic fantasies. Politics is played out in deals and trades."

"Point of order, Madame Speaker. This is but one of several times the member has inappropriately used second person pronouns."
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Vienna Eliot
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Founded: Feb 16, 2018
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Vienna Eliot » Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:45 pm

Van Hool Islands wrote:
Rebels and Saints wrote:
"We get their votes, they get a spot. Get over your idealistic fantasies. Politics is played out in deals and trades."

"Point of order, Madame Speaker. This is but one of several times the member has inappropriately used second person pronouns."

"The point of order is well taken. The Member for South Konstetuencï, Mr. Darrow, will withdraw."
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Rebels and Saints
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Mother Knows Best State

Postby Rebels and Saints » Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:47 pm

Vienna Eliot wrote:
Van Hool Islands wrote:"Point of order, Madame Speaker. This is but one of several times the member has inappropriately used second person pronouns."

"The point of order is well taken. The Member for South Konstetuencï, Mr. Darrow, will withdraw."


"That I will. My apologies."
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Martune
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Founded: Apr 22, 2016
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Postby Martune » Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:33 pm

"Point of order Madame Speaker. If we are choosing that now is the time to be picky about second person pronouns then I believe that shall apply to all members of this chamber and not just my friend Mr. Darrow.
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East Meranopirus
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Postby East Meranopirus » Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:41 pm

Martune wrote:"Point of order Madame Speaker. If we are choosing that now is the time to be picky about second person pronouns then I believe that shall apply to all members of this chamber and not just my friend Mr. Darrow.

"Well, as it stands, only Mr Darrow has chosen to use second person pronouns inappropriately."
Elusively never IC in the WA forums. Also author of (probably soon to be repealed) GA Resolution #464

Co-Founder of The Democratic Union

Representing the Social Democratic Party as Albin Lundberg in NS Parliament. Fight for freedom, equality, and prosperity for the people!

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Van Hool Islands
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Founded: Nov 12, 2016
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Van Hool Islands » Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:43 pm

East Meranopirus wrote:
Martune wrote:"Point of order Madame Speaker. If we are choosing that now is the time to be picky about second person pronouns then I believe that shall apply to all members of this chamber and not just my friend Mr. Darrow.

"Well, as it stands, only Mr Darrow has chosen to use second person pronouns inappropriately."

"Hear."
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Martune
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Founded: Apr 22, 2016
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Postby Martune » Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:47 pm

East Meranopirus wrote:"If that is the view of the government, then how do you justify the inclusion of SHAPC, a nationalist and anti-colonialist, pan-Caribbean party, in your coalition?"

"Madame Speaker, while I do not wish to complain, but several members have inappropriately used second person pronouns as a means to address others in this chamber. I'm not asking for immediate consequences on these people, but for this rule to be applied to the entire chamber all the time."
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East Meranopirus
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Founded: Jul 28, 2018
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Postby East Meranopirus » Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:53 pm

Martune wrote:
East Meranopirus wrote:"If that is the view of the government, then how do you justify the inclusion of SHAPC, a nationalist and anti-colonialist, pan-Caribbean party, in your coalition?"

"Madame Speaker, while I do not wish to complain, but several members have inappropriately used second person pronouns as a means to address others in this chamber. I'm not asking for immediate consequences on these people, but for this rule to be applied to the entire chamber all the time."

I apologise for my indiscretion in using the second person pronoun, however, the meaning of the question was quite clear in that it is a question for the government, whereas Mr Darrow's use was targeted personally."
Elusively never IC in the WA forums. Also author of (probably soon to be repealed) GA Resolution #464

Co-Founder of The Democratic Union

Representing the Social Democratic Party as Albin Lundberg in NS Parliament. Fight for freedom, equality, and prosperity for the people!

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Martune
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Founded: Apr 22, 2016
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Martune » Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:56 pm

East Meranopirus wrote:
Martune wrote:"Madame Speaker, while I do not wish to complain, but several members have inappropriately used second person pronouns as a means to address others in this chamber. I'm not asking for immediate consequences on these people, but for this rule to be applied to the entire chamber all the time."

I apologise for my indiscretion in using the second person pronoun, however, the meaning of the question was quite clear in that it is a question for the government, whereas Mr Darrow's use was targeted personally."

"Madame Speaker, I apologize to the honourable member. I saw this as being a directed question at Mr. Darrow. But I would still like for these rules to be enforced to ensure a uniformly professional atmosphere is held in this chamber as it should be."
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Van Hool Islands
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Founded: Nov 12, 2016
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Van Hool Islands » Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:56 pm

Martune wrote:
East Meranopirus wrote:I apologise for my indiscretion in using the second person pronoun, however, the meaning of the question was quite clear in that it is a question for the government, whereas Mr Darrow's use was targeted personally."

"Madame Speaker, I apologize to the honourable member. I saw this as being a directed question at Mr. Darrow. But I would still like for these rules to be enforced to ensure a uniformly professional atmosphere is held in this chamber as it should be."

"Hear hear."
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East Meranopirus
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Founded: Jul 28, 2018
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Postby East Meranopirus » Sat Jul 06, 2019 10:39 pm

"Regardless, let us continue the questions for the government. The two major parties in the governing coalition, the National People's Party and the Free People's Party, have some rather contradictory views. For example, the NPP self-describes as conservative, especially on social issues, while the FPP self-describes as Libertarian. How does the governing coalition plan to reconcile this difference?"
Elusively never IC in the WA forums. Also author of (probably soon to be repealed) GA Resolution #464

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Representing the Social Democratic Party as Albin Lundberg in NS Parliament. Fight for freedom, equality, and prosperity for the people!

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Costa Fierro
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Founded: Dec 09, 2013
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Costa Fierro » Sat Jul 06, 2019 11:12 pm

"Madam Speaker, does the government have a comprehensive plan for welfare or social assistance given they have omitted the creation of a government ministry overseeing the delivery of social assistance services?"
"Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist." - George Carlin

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Rebels and Saints
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Founded: Apr 01, 2019
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Postby Rebels and Saints » Sat Jul 06, 2019 11:47 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:"Madam Speaker, does the government have a comprehensive plan for welfare or social assistance given they have omitted the creation of a government ministry overseeing the delivery of social assistance services?"


"Such services fall under the authority of the Ministries already in place."

East Meranopirus wrote:"Regardless, let us continue the questions for the government. The two major parties in the governing coalition, the National People's Party and the Free People's Party, have some rather contradictory views. For example, the NPP self-describes as conservative, especially on social issues, while the FPP self-describes as Libertarian. How does the governing coalition plan to reconcile this difference?"


"By a common anti-left agenda. While they may be divided by certain matters, the two parties are united in the fact that they have a common enemy."
MBTI: ENTP-A
Zodiac: Aquarius
House: Slytherin or Gryffindor, depending on the day.
Which Virtue Am I?: Diligence
Which Sin Am I?: Wrath
Favorite Color?: Black. Which is a color. If you don't count it, red.
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I like to argue. I don't have anything against you. I don't dislike you. Sometimes my mouth gets ahead of me. It's just something I do, and I'll be just as happy to be your friend after the argument as before it.

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Arkhastok
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Founded: Dec 31, 2015
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Arkhastok » Sat Jul 06, 2019 11:58 pm

"Madame Speaker, does the government have a plan to interact with the constant activism from the left for the LGBT, vegan and racial equality movement?"

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Puertollano
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Founded: Nov 30, 2015
Democratic Socialists

Postby Puertollano » Sat Jul 06, 2019 11:59 pm

Arkhastok wrote:"Madame Speaker, does the government have a plan to interact with the constant activism from the left for the LGBT, vegan and racial equality movement?"


"I won't listen to a word the vegans have to say," Oscar joked as a passing remark.
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East Meranopirus
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Founded: Jul 28, 2018
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Postby East Meranopirus » Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:01 am

Arkhastok wrote:"Madame Speaker, does the government have a plan to interact with the constant activism from the left for the LGBT, vegan and racial equality movement?"

"Madame Speaker, I believe the honourable member is using trigger words that generalize the left, which is, to say the least inappropriate behaviour. Furthermore, does the right not agree that equality is important?"
Rebels and Saints wrote:"By a common anti-left agenda. While they may be divided by certain matters, the two parties are united in the fact that they have a common enemy."

"So the sole agenda of the government is to oppose the left? That is, I must say, not very government-like."
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Co-Founder of The Democratic Union

Representing the Social Democratic Party as Albin Lundberg in NS Parliament. Fight for freedom, equality, and prosperity for the people!

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Arkhastok
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Founded: Dec 31, 2015
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Arkhastok » Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:07 am

"Madame Speaker, I believe the honourable member is using trigger words that generalize the left, which is, to say the least inappropriate behaviour. Furthermore, does the right not agree that equality is important?"


"Madame Speaker, I would like to argue against the statement made by the honourable member as I was not using these words with the intention of antagonising the left"

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Crylante
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Founded: Dec 06, 2016
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Crylante » Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:11 am

“Madam Speaker, given that according to other sources in the cabinet, he is responsible for the environment, I would like to ask the Home Affairs Minister what he actually plans to do with regards to climate change.”
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Costa Fierro
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Costa Fierro » Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:11 am

Rebels and Saints wrote:"Such services fall under the authority of the Ministries already in place."


"Supplementary question Madam Speaker, could the member please clarify what they meant when they said that such services fall under the authority of the ministries already in place?"
"Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist." - George Carlin

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Kowani
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Founded: Apr 01, 2018
Democratic Socialists

Postby Kowani » Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:23 am

Seč sighed, his disappointment with the Parliament growing by the second, before he begins to speak, his voice getting louder as his frustrations came to the fore. “What are you, Children?” ”Madam Speaker, Madam Speaker” “While it is all very well that we maintain order and dignity in the Legislature, this is not how it is done! Administrative shenanigans, nitpicking every single thing, the list just goes on! Yes, the Question-And-Answer period is important, but that is no reason to excessively watch others’ pronouns. We are the representatives of the People, and yet all we seem to represent, is a seedy bar! Squabbling, rowdy children, and nothing to show for it!”

“There is political opposition, there is political gridlock, and then there is this!” “This-this is a mockery! A farce beyond comprehension! If one was to condense all the failure in the world, and compare it to this “Parliament”, I do not believe that we would come out on the winning side!”

“Now, if we are done trying to score points, repeat questions, and whatever else you people seem to have come up with, could we please act with a modicum
of dignity?”

“Now. I am going to take my own advice, sit down, and shut up, so that cooler heads may ask questions of actual value, and we get proper answers.”
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Puertollano
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Founded: Nov 30, 2015
Democratic Socialists

Postby Puertollano » Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:45 am

Crylante wrote:“Madam Speaker, given that according to other sources in the cabinet, he is responsible for the environment, I would like to ask the Home Affairs Minister what he actually plans to do with regards to climate change.”


"There is not much St Hilda can do, it's ridiculous to believe that what we do could ever influence global temperatures, whether they're tied to carbon emissions or not."
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Van Hool Islands
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Founded: Nov 12, 2016
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Van Hool Islands » Sun Jul 07, 2019 1:18 am

Kowani wrote:Seč sighed, his disappointment with the Parliament growing by the second, before he begins to speak, his voice getting louder as his frustrations came to the fore. “What are you, Children?” ”Madam Speaker, Madam Speaker” “While it is all very well that we maintain order and dignity in the Legislature, this is not how it is done! Administrative shenanigans, nitpicking every single thing, the list just goes on! Yes, the Question-And-Answer period is important, but that is no reason to excessively watch others’ pronouns. We are the representatives of the People, and yet all we seem to represent, is a seedy bar! Squabbling, rowdy children, and nothing to show for it!”

“There is political opposition, there is political gridlock, and then there is this!” “This-this is a mockery! A farce beyond comprehension! If one was to condense all the failure in the world, and compare it to this “Parliament”, I do not believe that we would come out on the winning side!”

“Now, if we are done trying to score points, repeat questions, and whatever else you people seem to have come up with, could we please act with a modicum
of dignity?”

“Now. I am going to take my own advice, sit down, and shut up, so that cooler heads may ask questions of actual value, and we get proper answers.”

"Madame Speaker, the member's remarks are ridiculous. Pointing out violations of parliamentary decorum is not bickering pointlessly. To prevent pointless bickering is the exact reason this body has rules, and why those rules need to be enforced."
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