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Postby Kowani » Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:22 pm

We have an army?
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Postby Pere Housh Alpha » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:07 pm

Agarntrop wrote:
East Meranopirus wrote:I don't think you should write "invoke section 3.1" in Section 3.1. Instead just say:

"With a simple majority, parliament may order all persons who have registered under Section 2.1 aged between 18 and 25 to spend an amount of time - specified by parliament - in the Saint Hildan armed forces before they turn 25."

Same goes for the other clauses.


Conscription Act
Author: James Penta (Green)

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED, as follows:



§1 - Repeal
  1. All laws in conflict with this legislation are henceforth repealed.

§2 - Registration
  1. All persons, regardless of gender, must legally register for conscription into the Saint Hildan armed forces after their 15th but before their 17th birthday
  2. If a person fails to do the act required under Section 2.1, they shall be detained for at most 75 days upon indictment
  3. The legal parents and/or guardians of a person who fails to do the act required under Section 2.1 will be fined at most 50,000 Kr or imprisoned for at most six months
  4. If the person themselves or their legal parents and/or guardians are deemed not to have control over the decision not to comply with Section 2.1 no penalty shall be imposed on them
  5. Persons deemed medically unfit for service are exempt from the requirements of Section 2.1

§3 - Effectivity
  1. With a simple majority, parliament may order all persons who have registered under Section 2.1 aged between 18 and 25 to spend an amount of time - specified by parliament - in the Saint Hildan armed forces before they turn 25.
  2. If an order to do so is repealed (again, with a simple majority), once every person who had registered under section 2.1 who was between the ages of 18 and 25 when the order was passed has spent their time in the armed forces as mandated by Parliament conscription will no longer be in effect.
  3. Any person who evades or attempts to evade the requirements made during such an order as detailed in Section 3.1 shall be fined or imprisoned for 6 months or less.
  4. A person who has been convicted of a crime prior to their 18th birthday must spend the year between their 18th and 19th birthday either in the armed forces of Saint Hilda or completing community work (what 'community work' entails shall be at the discretion of their municipal authority), regardless of whether parliament has given out a Section 3.1 order or not.
  5. A person who tries to evade the requirements of section 3.4 shall be punished with imprisonment for no more than two years

I would like to sponsor this bill.
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Postby Agarntrop » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:35 am

Pere Housh Alpha wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:
Conscription Act
Author: James Penta (Green)

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED, as follows:



§1 - Repeal
  1. All laws in conflict with this legislation are henceforth repealed.

§2 - Registration
  1. All persons, regardless of gender, must legally register for conscription into the Saint Hildan armed forces after their 15th but before their 17th birthday
  2. If a person fails to do the act required under Section 2.1, they shall be detained for at most 75 days upon indictment
  3. The legal parents and/or guardians of a person who fails to do the act required under Section 2.1 will be fined at most 50,000 Kr or imprisoned for at most six months
  4. If the person themselves or their legal parents and/or guardians are deemed not to have control over the decision not to comply with Section 2.1 no penalty shall be imposed on them
  5. Persons deemed medically unfit for service are exempt from the requirements of Section 2.1

§3 - Effectivity
  1. With a simple majority, parliament may order all persons who have registered under Section 2.1 aged between 18 and 25 to spend an amount of time - specified by parliament - in the Saint Hildan armed forces before they turn 25.
  2. If an order to do so is repealed (again, with a simple majority), once every person who had registered under section 2.1 who was between the ages of 18 and 25 when the order was passed has spent their time in the armed forces as mandated by Parliament conscription will no longer be in effect.
  3. Any person who evades or attempts to evade the requirements made during such an order as detailed in Section 3.1 shall be fined or imprisoned for 6 months or less.
  4. A person who has been convicted of a crime prior to their 18th birthday must spend the year between their 18th and 19th birthday either in the armed forces of Saint Hilda or completing community work (what 'community work' entails shall be at the discretion of their municipal authority), regardless of whether parliament has given out a Section 3.1 order or not.
  5. A person who tries to evade the requirements of section 3.4 shall be punished with imprisonment for no more than two years

I would like to sponsor this bill.

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Postby Nariterrr » Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:26 am

I have been asked by Martune to give an apology in order for me to be able to return into the community with good faith. I have decided to address all those whom I might have insulted or hurt.

I have been accused of various things: plagiarism, puppeting accounts, lying to the community, godmoding, and generally being an asshole. I am guilty on all those counts. I comported myself very poorly in the Elizia roleplay, and I was justifiably banned as a result of it. When I returned to turn a new leaf, I was snarky and cuntish with other players. I am completely guilty of that as well. This led to my justified banning from this RP, but I have since asked the admins if it might be possible for me to return.

To all those whom I have insulted or hurt, directly or indirectly, I am very sorry. To those whom I lied to and cheated, I am sorry. To those whom I have insulted this time around, I am sorry. To the people who saw me as the major problem of the Elizia roleplay, I am sorry most of all. This is my fault and mine alone. I promise that if I am allowed to return, I will treat all players with the respect they merit, and I will acknowledge that I am on extremely thin ice.

Thank you,
Nariterrr
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Postby Rebels and Saints » Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:39 am

Nariterrr wrote:I have been asked by Martune to give an apology in order for me to be able to return into the community with good faith. I have decided to address all those whom I might have insulted or hurt.

I have been accused of various things: plagiarism, puppeting accounts, lying to the community, godmoding, and generally being an asshole. I am guilty on all those counts. I comported myself very poorly in the Elizia roleplay, and I was justifiably banned as a result of it. When I returned to turn a new leaf, I was snarky and cuntish with other players. I am completely guilty of that as well. This led to my justified banning from this RP, but I have since asked the admins if it might be possible for me to return.

To all those whom I have insulted or hurt, directly or indirectly, I am very sorry. To those whom I lied to and cheated, I am sorry. To those whom I have insulted this time around, I am sorry. To the people who saw me as the major problem of the Elizia roleplay, I am sorry most of all. This is my fault and mine alone. I promise that if I am allowed to return, I will treat all players with the respect they merit, and I will acknowledge that I am on extremely thin ice.

Thank you,
Nariterrr


I wasn't one of the insulted, and I wasn't in Elizia, so it isn't my place to say, but I think this is a good, heart-felt apology. I'm all in favor letting Nariterrr back and giving him a chance. :)
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Postby Martune » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:54 pm

Go ask questions
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Postby Nariterrr » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:57 pm

Martune wrote:Go ask questions

Thank you!
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Postby Martune » Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:02 pm

Nariterrr wrote:
Martune wrote:Go ask questions

Thank you!

No nariterr we haven’t decided yet
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Postby Nariterrr » Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:26 pm

Martune wrote:
Nariterrr wrote:Thank you!

No nariterr we haven’t decided yet

Oh, my bad I misunderstood.
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Postby Roosevetania » Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:46 pm

This bill amends the HRA, which just passed, to permit the death penalty and mostly prohibit abortion. It will be controversial, to say the least.
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The Life Amendment
Author: Alexander Norberg (NPP)
Sponsors: Salomon Kombila Berggren (SHAPC), Lance Darrow (FPP)



A bill to amend the Human Rights Act in order to protect the rights of unborn children and allow punishment of criminals

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED, as follows:



§1 - Amendment
  1. Section 1 of the Universal Rights Act shall be amended to read: "Right to life is bestowed upon all persons upon conception and shall not be violated in any circumstance except to protect the lives of others in immediate, life-threatening peril, to punish heinous actions against other human life, or in wartime where the killing of enemy combatants is just under international law."
  2. The right to life of an unborn child may be waived when that of the mother is at risk.
  3. The penalty of death shall not be imposed in trivial cases or when guilt is not proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
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Postby Nova Anglicana » Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:47 pm

Local Government Act
Author: Salomon Kombila Berggren (SHAPC)
Sponsors: Alexander Norberg (NPP), Filip Stenbeck (C-P), Austin Miller (SHAPC), Anna Nilsson (PLP), James Penta, (Green)

A bill to establish a system of local government

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED, as follows:

§1 - Definitions
  1. Municipality - an incorporated area, the lowest administrative division
  2. Department - the middle administrative division, consisting of at least one municipality and the surrounding area

§2 - Rights
  1. All residents of Saint Hilda are entitled to democratic self-government on a local level.

§3 - Municipalities
  1. The municipality shall be the lowest administrative division of Saint Hilda.
  2. All land incorporated in a municipality shall be subject to the ordinances of the municipality.
  3. Municipalities shall have a representative form of government with free, fair, and regular elections. Each municipality may determine the form of representative government and the division of powers, if any, therein.
  4. Municipalities shall have the power to pass local ordinances, lay and collect taxes, and provide services (law enforcement, firefighting, trash collection, public education, etc).

§4 - Departments
  1. Departments shall be the middle administrative division, below the national government.
  2. Parliament shall establish a number of departments, no less than ten (10), corresponding to historical and geographic regions. Parliament may establish additional departments, abolish, or merge departments as necessary.
  3. All land within the departments, including incorporated municipalities, shall be subject to the ordinances of the department.
  4. Departments shall have a representative form of government with free, fair, and regular elections. Each department shall be governed by a departmental council.
  5. Departmental councils shall have the power to pass ordinances, lay and collect taxes, and provide services.

§5 - National Law
  1. No municipality or department may pass an ordinance that would conflict with national law.


Local government bill. Municipalities and departments are administrative divisions and do not have irrevocable rights like in a federation.

Legal Justice Act
Author: Salomon Kombila Berggren (SHAPC)
Sponsors: Alexander Norberg (NPP), Filip Stenbeck (C-P), Austin Miller (SHAPC), James Penta, (Green)

A bill to establish a system of courts and justice

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED, as follows:

§1 - Definitions
  1. Citation - a low-level offense that carries no penalty of imprisonment nor significant fine, such as a parking ticket or public urination
  2. Criminal offense - an offense against the criminal code of Saint Hilda

§2 - Rights
  1. All residents of Saint Hilda are entitled to a trial by a jury of their peers for any criminal or civil offense that rises beyond the level of a citation.
  2. Juries shall consist of 12 individuals selected from a random pool of residents of Saint Hilda. Juries shall render their verdict by unanimous decision and shall use "beyond a reasonable doubt" as the standard by which they render their verdict in criminal cases. In civil cases, "clear and convincing evidence" shall be the standard by which they render their verdict.
  3. Any individual convicted of a criminal offense has the right to appeal the decision of the court to a higher court. There shall be no jury for an appeal.
  4. Any individual may choose to waive their right to a jury trial and have their case heard solely by a judge.
  5. All individuals charged with a crime have the right to an attorney. If they cannot afford an attorney, one will be provided for them at public expense.

§3 - Court System
  1. There shall be three levels of courts in Saint Hilda: department courts, courts of appeals, and the Supreme Court.
  2. All courts fall under the purview of the Ministry of Justice and all employees of courts shall be considered employees of the national government.
  3. There shall be one (1) department court in each department of Saint Hilda. Department courts are responsible for hearing cases relating to criminal offenses, as well as civil lawsuits. No case shall be heard in a higher court without first being heard in a department court. Department courts shall have no less than five (5) judges to hear cases, though only one (1) judge shall hear each case.
  4. There shall be five (5) courts of appeals, each encompassing multiple departments. The courts of appeals shall hear all cases appealed in the departments for which they are responsible. Each court of appeals shall have nine (9) judges, and three (3) judges shall hear each case.
  5. There shall be one (1) Supreme Court of Saint Hilda. The decision of the Supreme Court shall be final in all cases. The Supreme Court shall have the right to hear or choose not to hear any cases appealed to it from the courts of appeals. No case shall be appealed to the Supreme Court without first having been heard in a court of appeals. The Supreme Court shall have seven (7) judges, who shall be referred to as justices, and all justices, when able to be present, shall hear each case.
  6. Departments may establish special jurisdictional courts (bankruptcy, traffic, etc) as they believe to be necessary. All courts created in this way shall be the responsibility of the department and all employees considered employees of the department. The selection of judges and employees for these courts shall be on the basis of merit.
  7. Municipalities are directed to establish courts for the administration of citations. All courts created in this way shall be the responsibility of the municipality and all employees considered employees of the municipality. The selection of judges and employees for these courts shall be on the basis of merit.

§4 - Selection for the Judiciary
  1. All judges, whether for department, appeals, or Supreme courts, shall be selected on the basis of merit. No individual shall be nominated for a judgeship who is not a licensed attorney and a citizen of Saint Hilda.
  2. The Prime Minister shall nominate, subject to a majority vote of Parliament, individuals to serve on the department courts, courts of Appeals, and the Supreme Court.
  3. The Ministry of Justice shall be charged with the identification and recommendation to the Prime Minister of suitable candidates for judgeship.
  4. Judges of the department courts shall serve for nine (9) years or until they have resigned or been impeached by Parliament for conduct unbecoming of the office.
  5. Judges of the courts of appeals shall serve for twelve (12) years or until they have resigned or been impeached by Parliament for conduct unbecoming of the office.
  6. Justices of the Supreme Court shall serve for fifteen (15) years or until they have resigned or been impeached by Parliament for conduct unbecoming of the office.

§5 - Public Prosecutor and Public Defender
[list=a][*]Each department shall have an Office of the Public Prosecutor (OPP) and an Office of the Public Defender (OPD).
[*]The OPP shall be charged with the prosecution of criminal and civil offenses. Each departmental OPP shall have a Chief Prosecutor and no less than three (3) Assistant Prosecutors. The Chief Prosecutor shall be the official responsible for the operations of the OPP and the prosecution of cases.
[*]The OPD shall be charged with the defense of individuals who cannot or choose not to hire an attorney of their own. Each departmental OPD shall have a Chief Defender and no less than five (5) Assistant Defenders. The Chief Defender shall be the official responsible for the operations of the OPD and the defense of individuals.
[*]All applicants for the positions listed in this section of this Act shall be considered on the basis of merit. No individual shall be employed in one of the positions listed in this section of the Act who is not a licensed attorney.


Judiciary system bill. Sets up courts, selection of judges, and prosecution/defense.

Also, sponsor the Life Amendment and Conscription Act. Salomon Kombila Berggren, SHAPC.
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Postby Rebels and Saints » Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:33 pm

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Postby Alozia » Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:56 am

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Democratic Socialists

Postby Kowani » Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:23 am

Nariterrr wrote:I have been asked by Martune to give an apology in order for me to be able to return into the community with good faith. I have decided to address all those whom I might have insulted or hurt.

I have been accused of various things: plagiarism, puppeting accounts, lying to the community, godmoding, and generally being an asshole. I am guilty on all those counts. I comported myself very poorly in the Elizia roleplay, and I was justifiably banned as a result of it. When I returned to turn a new leaf, I was snarky and cuntish with other players. I am completely guilty of that as well. This led to my justified banning from this RP, but I have since asked the admins if it might be possible for me to return.

To all those whom I have insulted or hurt, directly or indirectly, I am very sorry. To those whom I lied to and cheated, I am sorry. To those whom I have insulted this time around, I am sorry. To the people who saw me as the major problem of the Elizia roleplay, I am sorry most of all. This is my fault and mine alone. I promise that if I am allowed to return, I will treat all players with the respect they merit, and I will acknowledge that I am on extremely thin ice.

Thank you,
Nariterrr

Well, I wasn’t present at any of the aforementioned events, so my opinion is worth about as much as my opinion on Mongolian politics. However, in an RP, it’s always more fun with more people. So, perhaps we should allow Nariterr to return.
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Postby Alozia » Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:22 am

Can someone give me a quick rundown of the situation Saint Helda is in?

I know that it's under the Swedish monarch, but how well established the government is? How many ministeries are there? Is there a constitution? Who's who in the government?
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Postby Alozia » Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:25 am

Nova Anglicana wrote:
Local Government Act
Author: Salomon Kombila Berggren (SHAPC)
Sponsors: Alexander Norberg (NPP)

A bill to establish a system of local government

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED, as follows:

§1 - Definitions
  1. Municipality - an incorporated area, the lowest administrative division
  2. Department - the middle administrative division, consisting of at least one municipality and the surrounding area

§2 - Rights
  1. All residents of Saint Hilda are entitled to democratic self-government on a local level.

§3 - Municipalities
  1. The municipality shall be the lowest administrative division of Saint Hilda.
  2. All land incorporated in a municipality shall be subject to the ordinances of the municipality.
  3. Municipalities shall have a representative form of government with free, fair, and regular elections. Each municipality may determine the form of representative government and the division of powers, if any, therein.
  4. Municipalities shall have the power to pass local ordinances, lay and collect taxes, and provide services (law enforcement, firefighting, trash collection, public education, etc).

§4 - Departments
  1. Departments shall be the middle administrative division, below the national government.
  2. Parliament shall establish a number of departments, no less than ten (10), corresponding to historical and geographic regions. Parliament may establish additional departments, abolish, or merge departments as necessary.
  3. All land within the departments, including incorporated municipalities, shall be subject to the ordinances of the department.
  4. Departments shall have a representative form of government with free, fair, and regular elections. Each department shall be governed by a departmental council.
  5. Departmental councils shall have the power to pass ordinances, lay and collect taxes, and provide services.

§5 - National Law
  1. No municipality or department may pass an ordinance that would conflict with national law.


Local government bill. Municipalities and departments are administrative divisions and do not have irrevocable rights like in a federation.

Legal Justice Act
Author: Salomon Kombila Berggren (SHAPC)
Sponsors: Alexander Norberg (NPP)

A bill to establish a system of courts and justice

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED, as follows:

§1 - Definitions
  1. Citation - a low-level offense that carries no penalty of imprisonment
  2. Criminal offense - an offense against the criminal code of Saint Hilda

§2 - Rights
  1. All residents of Saint Hilda are entitled to a trial by a jury of their peers for any criminal or civil offense that rises beyond the level of a citation.
  2. Juries shall consist of 12 individuals selected from a random pool of residents of Saint Hilda.
  3. Any individual convicted of a criminal offense has the right to appeal the decision of the court to a higher court. There shall be no jury for an appeal.
  4. Any individual may choose to waive their right to a jury trial and have their case heard solely by a judge.
  5. All individuals charged with a crime have the right to an attorney. If they cannot afford an attorney, one will be provided for them at public expense.

§3 - Court System
  1. There shall be three levels of courts in Saint Hilda: department courts, courts of appeals, and the Supreme Court.
  2. All courts fall under the purview of the Ministry of Justice and all employees of courts shall be considered employees of the national government.
  3. There shall be one (1) department court in each department of Saint Hilda. Department courts are responsible for hearing cases relating to criminal offenses, as well as civil lawsuits. No case shall be heard in a higher court without first being heard in a department court. Department courts shall have no less than five (5) judges to hear cases, though only one (1) judge shall hear each case.
  4. There shall be five (5) courts of appeals, each encompassing multiple departments. The courts of appeals shall hear all cases appealed in the departments for which they are responsible. Each court of appeals shall have nine (9) judges, and three (3) judges shall hear each case.
  5. There shall be one (1) Supreme Court of Saint Hilda. The decision of the Supreme Court shall be final in all cases. The Supreme Court shall have the right to hear or choose not to hear any cases appealed to it from the courts of appeals. No case shall be appealed to the Supreme Court without first having been heard in a court of appeals. The Supreme Court shall have seven (7) judges, who shall be referred to as justices, and all justices, when able to be present, shall hear each case.
  6. Departments may establish special jurisdictional courts (bankruptcy, traffic, etc) as they believe to be necessary. All courts created in this way shall be the responsibility of the department and all employees considered employees of the department. The selection of judges and employees for these courts shall be on the basis of merit.

§4 - Selection for the Judiciary
  1. All judges, whether for department, appeals, or Supreme courts, shall be selected on the basis of merit. No individual shall be nominated for a judgeship who is not a licensed attorney or a citizen of Saint Hilda.
  2. The Prime Minister shall nominate, subject to a majority vote of Parliament, individuals to serve on the department courts, courts of Appeals, and the Supreme Court.
  3. The Ministry of Justice shall be charged with the identification and recommendation to the Prime Minister of suitable candidates for judgeship.
  4. Judges of the department courts shall serve for nine (9) years or until they have resigned or been impeached by Parliament for conduct unbecoming of the office.
  5. Judges of the courts of appeals shall serve for twelve (12) years or until they have resigned or been impeached by Parliament for conduct unbecoming of the office.
  6. Justices of the Supreme Court shall serve for fifteen (15) years or until they have resigned or been impeached by Parliament for conduct unbecoming of the office.

§5 - Public Prosecutor and Public Defender
[list=a][*]Each department shall have an Office of the Public Prosecutor (OPP) and an Office of the Public Defender (OPD).
[*]The OPP shall be charged with the prosecution of criminal and civil offenses. Each departmental OPP shall have a Chief Prosecutor and no less than three (3) Assistant Prosecutors. The Chief Prosecutor shall be the official responsible for the operations of the OPP and the prosecution of cases.
[*]The OPD shall be charged with the defense of individuals who cannot or choose not to hire an attorney of their own. Each departmental OPD shall have a Chief Defender and no less than five (5) Assistant Defenders. The Chief Defender shall be the official responsible for the operations of the OPD and the defense of individuals.
[*]All applicants for the positions listed in this section of this Act shall be considered on the basis of merit. No individual shall be employed in one of the positions listed in this section of the Act who is not a licensed attorney.


Judiciary system bill. Sets up courts, selection of judges, and prosecution/defense.

Also, sponsor the Life Amendment and Conscription Act. Salomon Kombila Berggren, SHAPC.

Filip Stenbeck, C-P, would like to sponsor both of these bills (Local Government Act and Legal Justice Act)
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Alozia wrote:
Nova Anglicana wrote:
Local Government Act
Author: Salomon Kombila Berggren (SHAPC)
Sponsors: Alexander Norberg (NPP)

A bill to establish a system of local government

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED, as follows:

§1 - Definitions
  1. Municipality - an incorporated area, the lowest administrative division
  2. Department - the middle administrative division, consisting of at least one municipality and the surrounding area

§2 - Rights
  1. All residents of Saint Hilda are entitled to democratic self-government on a local level.

§3 - Municipalities
  1. The municipality shall be the lowest administrative division of Saint Hilda.
  2. All land incorporated in a municipality shall be subject to the ordinances of the municipality.
  3. Municipalities shall have a representative form of government with free, fair, and regular elections. Each municipality may determine the form of representative government and the division of powers, if any, therein.
  4. Municipalities shall have the power to pass local ordinances, lay and collect taxes, and provide services (law enforcement, firefighting, trash collection, public education, etc).

§4 - Departments
  1. Departments shall be the middle administrative division, below the national government.
  2. Parliament shall establish a number of departments, no less than ten (10), corresponding to historical and geographic regions. Parliament may establish additional departments, abolish, or merge departments as necessary.
  3. All land within the departments, including incorporated municipalities, shall be subject to the ordinances of the department.
  4. Departments shall have a representative form of government with free, fair, and regular elections. Each department shall be governed by a departmental council.
  5. Departmental councils shall have the power to pass ordinances, lay and collect taxes, and provide services.

§5 - National Law
  1. No municipality or department may pass an ordinance that would conflict with national law.


Local government bill. Municipalities and departments are administrative divisions and do not have irrevocable rights like in a federation.

Legal Justice Act
Author: Salomon Kombila Berggren (SHAPC)
Sponsors: Alexander Norberg (NPP)

A bill to establish a system of courts and justice

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED, as follows:

§1 - Definitions
  1. Citation - a low-level offense that carries no penalty of imprisonment
  2. Criminal offense - an offense against the criminal code of Saint Hilda

§2 - Rights
  1. All residents of Saint Hilda are entitled to a trial by a jury of their peers for any criminal or civil offense that rises beyond the level of a citation.
  2. Juries shall consist of 12 individuals selected from a random pool of residents of Saint Hilda.
  3. Any individual convicted of a criminal offense has the right to appeal the decision of the court to a higher court. There shall be no jury for an appeal.
  4. Any individual may choose to waive their right to a jury trial and have their case heard solely by a judge.
  5. All individuals charged with a crime have the right to an attorney. If they cannot afford an attorney, one will be provided for them at public expense.

§3 - Court System
  1. There shall be three levels of courts in Saint Hilda: department courts, courts of appeals, and the Supreme Court.
  2. All courts fall under the purview of the Ministry of Justice and all employees of courts shall be considered employees of the national government.
  3. There shall be one (1) department court in each department of Saint Hilda. Department courts are responsible for hearing cases relating to criminal offenses, as well as civil lawsuits. No case shall be heard in a higher court without first being heard in a department court. Department courts shall have no less than five (5) judges to hear cases, though only one (1) judge shall hear each case.
  4. There shall be five (5) courts of appeals, each encompassing multiple departments. The courts of appeals shall hear all cases appealed in the departments for which they are responsible. Each court of appeals shall have nine (9) judges, and three (3) judges shall hear each case.
  5. There shall be one (1) Supreme Court of Saint Hilda. The decision of the Supreme Court shall be final in all cases. The Supreme Court shall have the right to hear or choose not to hear any cases appealed to it from the courts of appeals. No case shall be appealed to the Supreme Court without first having been heard in a court of appeals. The Supreme Court shall have seven (7) judges, who shall be referred to as justices, and all justices, when able to be present, shall hear each case.
  6. Departments may establish special jurisdictional courts (bankruptcy, traffic, etc) as they believe to be necessary. All courts created in this way shall be the responsibility of the department and all employees considered employees of the department. The selection of judges and employees for these courts shall be on the basis of merit.

§4 - Selection for the Judiciary
  1. All judges, whether for department, appeals, or Supreme courts, shall be selected on the basis of merit. No individual shall be nominated for a judgeship who is not a licensed attorney or a citizen of Saint Hilda.
  2. The Prime Minister shall nominate, subject to a majority vote of Parliament, individuals to serve on the department courts, courts of Appeals, and the Supreme Court.
  3. The Ministry of Justice shall be charged with the identification and recommendation to the Prime Minister of suitable candidates for judgeship.
  4. Judges of the department courts shall serve for nine (9) years or until they have resigned or been impeached by Parliament for conduct unbecoming of the office.
  5. Judges of the courts of appeals shall serve for twelve (12) years or until they have resigned or been impeached by Parliament for conduct unbecoming of the office.
  6. Justices of the Supreme Court shall serve for fifteen (15) years or until they have resigned or been impeached by Parliament for conduct unbecoming of the office.

§5 - Public Prosecutor and Public Defender
[list=a][*]Each department shall have an Office of the Public Prosecutor (OPP) and an Office of the Public Defender (OPD).
[*]The OPP shall be charged with the prosecution of criminal and civil offenses. Each departmental OPP shall have a Chief Prosecutor and no less than three (3) Assistant Prosecutors. The Chief Prosecutor shall be the official responsible for the operations of the OPP and the prosecution of cases.
[*]The OPD shall be charged with the defense of individuals who cannot or choose not to hire an attorney of their own. Each departmental OPD shall have a Chief Defender and no less than five (5) Assistant Defenders. The Chief Defender shall be the official responsible for the operations of the OPD and the defense of individuals.
[*]All applicants for the positions listed in this section of this Act shall be considered on the basis of merit. No individual shall be employed in one of the positions listed in this section of the Act who is not a licensed attorney.


Judiciary system bill. Sets up courts, selection of judges, and prosecution/defense.

Also, sponsor the Life Amendment and Conscription Act. Salomon Kombila Berggren, SHAPC.

Filip Stenbeck, C-P, would like to sponsor both of these bills (Local Government Act and Legal Justice Act)


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Postby Merni » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:54 am

Nova Anglicana wrote:
Local Government Act
Author: Salomon Kombila Berggren (SHAPC)
Sponsors: Alexander Norberg (NPP)

A bill to establish a system of local government

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED, as follows:

§1 - Definitions
  1. Municipality - an incorporated area, the lowest administrative division
  2. Department - the middle administrative division, consisting of at least one municipality and the surrounding area

§2 - Rights
  1. All residents of Saint Hilda are entitled to democratic self-government on a local level.

§3 - Municipalities
  1. The municipality shall be the lowest administrative division of Saint Hilda.
  2. All land incorporated in a municipality shall be subject to the ordinances of the municipality.
  3. Municipalities shall have a representative form of government with free, fair, and regular elections. Each municipality may determine the form of representative government and the division of powers, if any, therein.
  4. Municipalities shall have the power to pass local ordinances, lay and collect taxes, and provide services (law enforcement, firefighting, trash collection, public education, etc).

§4 - Departments
  1. Departments shall be the middle administrative division, below the national government.
  2. Parliament shall establish a number of departments, no less than ten (10), corresponding to historical and geographic regions. Parliament may establish additional departments, abolish, or merge departments as necessary.
  3. All land within the departments, including incorporated municipalities, shall be subject to the ordinances of the department.
  4. Departments shall have a representative form of government with free, fair, and regular elections. Each department shall be governed by a departmental council.
  5. Departmental councils shall have the power to pass ordinances, lay and collect taxes, and provide services.

§5 - National Law
  1. No municipality or department may pass an ordinance that would conflict with national law.


Local government bill. Municipalities and departments are administrative divisions and do not have irrevocable rights like in a federation.

To me at least, "municipality" sounds like it applies to only urban areas. Maybe a different word could be used for rural subdivisions. "Commune" (as in Swedish kommun) or "county" are possibilities.

But this is a minor issue, so I sponsor this. (Anna Nilsson, PLP)


Legal Justice Act
Author: Salomon Kombila Berggren (SHAPC)
Sponsors: Alexander Norberg (NPP)

A bill to establish a system of courts and justice

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED, as follows:

§1 - Definitions
  1. Citation - a low-level offense that carries no penalty of imprisonment
  2. Criminal offense - an offense against the criminal code of Saint Hilda

§2 - Rights
  1. All residents of Saint Hilda are entitled to a trial by a jury of their peers for any criminal or civil offense that rises beyond the level of a citation.
  2. Juries shall consist of 12 individuals selected from a random pool of residents of Saint Hilda.
  3. Any individual convicted of a criminal offense has the right to appeal the decision of the court to a higher court. There shall be no jury for an appeal.
  4. Any individual may choose to waive their right to a jury trial and have their case heard solely by a judge.
  5. All individuals charged with a crime have the right to an attorney. If they cannot afford an attorney, one will be provided for them at public expense.

§3 - Court System
  1. There shall be three levels of courts in Saint Hilda: department courts, courts of appeals, and the Supreme Court.
  2. All courts fall under the purview of the Ministry of Justice and all employees of courts shall be considered employees of the national government.
  3. There shall be one (1) department court in each department of Saint Hilda. Department courts are responsible for hearing cases relating to criminal offenses, as well as civil lawsuits. No case shall be heard in a higher court without first being heard in a department court. Department courts shall have no less than five (5) judges to hear cases, though only one (1) judge shall hear each case.
  4. There shall be five (5) courts of appeals, each encompassing multiple departments. The courts of appeals shall hear all cases appealed in the departments for which they are responsible. Each court of appeals shall have nine (9) judges, and three (3) judges shall hear each case.
  5. There shall be one (1) Supreme Court of Saint Hilda. The decision of the Supreme Court shall be final in all cases. The Supreme Court shall have the right to hear or choose not to hear any cases appealed to it from the courts of appeals. No case shall be appealed to the Supreme Court without first having been heard in a court of appeals. The Supreme Court shall have seven (7) judges, who shall be referred to as justices, and all justices, when able to be present, shall hear each case.
  6. Departments may establish special jurisdictional courts (bankruptcy, traffic, etc) as they believe to be necessary. All courts created in this way shall be the responsibility of the department and all employees considered employees of the department. The selection of judges and employees for these courts shall be on the basis of merit.

§4 - Selection for the Judiciary
  1. All judges, whether for department, appeals, or Supreme courts, shall be selected on the basis of merit. No individual shall be nominated for a judgeship who is not a licensed attorney or a citizen of Saint Hilda.
  2. The Prime Minister shall nominate, subject to a majority vote of Parliament, individuals to serve on the department courts, courts of Appeals, and the Supreme Court.
  3. The Ministry of Justice shall be charged with the identification and recommendation to the Prime Minister of suitable candidates for judgeship.
  4. Judges of the department courts shall serve for nine (9) years or until they have resigned or been impeached by Parliament for conduct unbecoming of the office.
  5. Judges of the courts of appeals shall serve for twelve (12) years or until they have resigned or been impeached by Parliament for conduct unbecoming of the office.
  6. Justices of the Supreme Court shall serve for fifteen (15) years or until they have resigned or been impeached by Parliament for conduct unbecoming of the office.

§5 - Public Prosecutor and Public Defender
[list=a][*]Each department shall have an Office of the Public Prosecutor (OPP) and an Office of the Public Defender (OPD).
[*]The OPP shall be charged with the prosecution of criminal and civil offenses. Each departmental OPP shall have a Chief Prosecutor and no less than three (3) Assistant Prosecutors. The Chief Prosecutor shall be the official responsible for the operations of the OPP and the prosecution of cases.
[*]The OPD shall be charged with the defense of individuals who cannot or choose not to hire an attorney of their own. Each departmental OPD shall have a Chief Defender and no less than five (5) Assistant Defenders. The Chief Defender shall be the official responsible for the operations of the OPD and the defense of individuals.
[*]All applicants for the positions listed in this section of this Act shall be considered on the basis of merit. No individual shall be employed in one of the positions listed in this section of the Act who is not a licensed attorney.


Judiciary system bill. Sets up courts, selection of judges, and prosecution/defense.

Also, sponsor the Life Amendment and Conscription Act. Salomon Kombila Berggren, SHAPC.

1. §3 doesn't actually specify which court hears citations. I guess they'd fall under "civil lawsuits"?
2. The lower level courts in §3f are good, but I believe some basic lower-level court should be already created instead of asking the departments to create them— something like a magistrates' court for hearing trivial citations, in a jurisdiction smaller than the whole department (which would not be possible now if I'm reading it correctly)
3. Jury trials? Erk.
4. I think the "or" in "licensed attorney or citizen..." in §4a should be an "and".
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Admins, would we actually get to RP judges?
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Alozia wrote:Can someone give me a quick rundown of the situation Saint Helda is in?

I know that it's under the Swedish monarch, but how well established the government is? How many ministeries are there? Is there a constitution? Who's who in the government?

St. Hilda is a Caribbean nation which recently gained diplomatic independence from Sweden but is still under the Swedish monarch. The Governor-General, the stand-in for the monarch, is named Steve Stevenson (originally silly but it stuck) and is played by the admins. The Constitution establishes our government as a parliamentary system. After multiple confidence votes, Vedastia (Carl Von Leslie - NPP) was elected Prime Minister supported by a coalition of the National People's Party, Free People's Party, Christian People's Congress, Sankta Hilda All Patriots' Congress, and Center-Progressive.
The Liberated Territories (Sara Nygaard - FPP) is Deputy Prime Minister.
Arkhastok (Rasti Andresson - NPP) is Minister of Foreign Affairs.
Zurkerx (Jonathan Vasquez - FPP) is Minister of Finance and Economic Affairs.
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We will discuss this, but I think it would be cool.

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Postby Martune » Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:11 am

I like amendment option #3 best.

At most you have (how I’d do it):
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The shorter way:
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The Archipelago Territory wrote:Admins, would we actually get to RP judges?


My vote would be yes. But we will discuss who will fill the judge seats and how.
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Martune wrote:
The Archipelago Territory wrote:Admins, would we actually get to RP judges?


My vote would be yes. But we will discuss who will fill the judge seats and how.

Maybe the admins control the high court, and the players control lower courts
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I’d personally like the structure that the Department Court has double the amount of judges as the appeals court and the Supreme Court is the admins
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The Archipelago Territory wrote:
Martune wrote:
My vote would be yes. But we will discuss who will fill the judge seats and how.

Maybe the admins control the high court, and the players control lower courts

It’d be a matter of player engagement.
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