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Postby Inhorto » Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:27 pm

Agarntrop wrote:
Inhorto wrote:I added this clause:

Ahem. You are not the only author here. Looms

Ah, crap, I'm sorry. Do you agree with that? I think extraordinary heinous acts could be punished by death; it's up to the government I think.
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Postby Martune » Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:28 pm

Agarntrop wrote:
Inhorto wrote:I added this clause:

Ahem. You are not the only author here. Looms

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Postby Roosevetania » Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:41 pm

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Roosevetania wrote:I assume this would prohibit the death penalty? If so, I would likely not be in favor since my MP is pretty tough on crime.

I mean there's a difference between being tough on crime and wanting to bring back a practise not used since the 19th century. In answer to your question, yes.

I am aware, I'm libertarian on crime irl.
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Roosevetania wrote:I assume this would prohibit the death penalty? If so, I would likely not be in favor since my MP is pretty tough on crime.

I added this clause:
to punish extraordinarily heinous acts against another human life

Should this clause make it into the final version, you can count on my sponsorship.
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Postby Agarntrop » Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:58 pm

Inhorto wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:Ahem. You are not the only author here. Looms

Ah, crap, I'm sorry. Do you agree with that? I think extraordinary heinous acts could be punished by death; it's up to the government I think.

My character wouldn't agree. Also, Sweden abolished the death penalty in 1910 and 60% of adults don't support it iirc, so not really.
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Postby Inhorto » Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:32 pm

Agarntrop wrote:
Inhorto wrote:Ah, crap, I'm sorry. Do you agree with that? I think extraordinary heinous acts could be punished by death; it's up to the government I think.

My character wouldn't agree. Also, Sweden abolished the death penalty in 1910 and 60% of adults don't support it iirc, so not really.

Since a co-author disagrees, I can’t amend without their consent. However, I do agree with you personally Roose, and I’m sure that we could debate it when it reaches the floor.

I’m out of the house right now, so I’ll strike the portion in question when I return. Again, sorry about that Agarntrop.
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Postby Vedastia » Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:45 pm

Inhorto wrote:Given the defeat of the previous bill, I am placing for your consideration the Human Rights Act, a collaboration between Agarntrop and me. This bill retains much of the judiciary clauses from the previous proposal, but most of everything else has changed. We are not submitting yet, so as to give people time to give criticsm.

Human Rights Act
Author: Eloise Eliasson (NPP) and James Penta (Green) (Editor)
Sponsors: Dorgival R. Seč (SDP)



To give all persons within Saint Hilda the rights to life, bodily autonomy, privacy of belongings, free expression, sufferage, equality before the law, fair trial, and other rights.

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED, as follows:



  1. Right to life is bestowed upon all persons upon birth and shall not be violated in any circumstance except to protect the lives of others in immediate, life-threatening peril, to punish extraordinarily heinous acts against another human life, or in wartime where the killing of enemy combatants is just under international law.

  2. All persons have the right to bodily autonomy and privacy. No person, personal affect, or person’s property—physical or digital—shall be forcibly detained, seized, searched, or otherwise violated except by an officer of the law for the purposes of protecting the health and safety of others, interrupting criminal activity committed in flagrante delicto, or pursuant to a warrant issued by a lawful judge of Saint Hilda on the basis of probable cause.

  3. Torture, involuntary physical maiming, or psychological abuse are prohibited without exception.

  4. All persons enjoy the right to free speech, free assembly, free press, and petition for grievances inasmuch as such expressions or manifestations are nonviolent, do not incite violence, do not jeopardize the health and security of others, or do not defame, slander, or libel a person, persons, or organization.

  5. All persons enjoy the right to freely practice nonviolent, harmless religious or cultural practice, as well as the right to abstain thereof.

  6. All citizens having seventeen years of age or greater shall have the right to freely vote or abstain from voting. The Government of Saint Hilda shall not institute a poll tax or attempt in any way to obstruct any citizen from voting.

  7. All persons, regardless of sex, religion, culture, socioeconomic status, or political identity are equal before the Government of Saint Hilda.

  8. No person shall be detained for criminal offense except under substantial charge filed by a prosecutor of Saint Hilda with the consent of the Ministry of Justice. Upon charge, all persons shall have the right to petition for a writ of habeas corpus to be seen by a court within forty-eight hours of their detainment. The right to habeas corpus may be suspended during justifiable grave internal or external unrest as declared by Parliament and ratified by the Constitutional Court, and such suspensions shall only last until the period of unrest has passed.

  9. All persons are protected against self-incrimination or the incrimination of their spouse or children.

  10. All persons have a right to a fair, unbiased, and expeditious trial in a court of law before a jury of their peers, and shall have unconstrained access to a trained barrister or barristers for their civil or criminal defense, and all communication between a person and their barrister shall be privileged beyond any subpoena; if a person cannot afford a private barrister, the state shall furnish one for them.
    All persons shall have the right to access and examine any evidence or testimony against them, as well as the right to bring forth and compel any evidence or testimony in their defense. All evidence or testimony offered in support of the innocence of the defense must be considered, regardless of the nature of such evidence or testimony.

  11. All persons found guilty shall have the right to petition for a writ of certiorari before a higher court, and no person shall be subjected to double jeopardy for the same offense.

  12. The Human Rights Act shall apply to the government of Saint Hilda and all constituent and local governing bodies therein, as well as within all chancelleries, consulates, and other extensions of the Government of Saint Hilda abroad, as well as on all vessels of land or sea, public or private, that fly the Saint Hilda flag.

I would like to sponsor.
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Postby Inhorto » Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:23 pm

Vedastia wrote:
Inhorto wrote:Given the defeat of the previous bill, I am placing for your consideration the Human Rights Act, a collaboration between Agarntrop and me. This bill retains much of the judiciary clauses from the previous proposal, but most of everything else has changed. We are not submitting yet, so as to give people time to give criticsm.

Human Rights Act
Author: Eloise Eliasson (NPP) and James Penta (Green) (Editor)
Sponsors: Dorgival R. Seč (SDP)



To give all persons within Saint Hilda the rights to life, bodily autonomy, privacy of belongings, free expression, sufferage, equality before the law, fair trial, and other rights.

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED, as follows:



  1. Right to life is bestowed upon all persons upon birth and shall not be violated in any circumstance except to protect the lives of others in immediate, life-threatening peril, to punish extraordinarily heinous acts against another human life, or in wartime where the killing of enemy combatants is just under international law.

  2. All persons have the right to bodily autonomy and privacy. No person, personal affect, or person’s property—physical or digital—shall be forcibly detained, seized, searched, or otherwise violated except by an officer of the law for the purposes of protecting the health and safety of others, interrupting criminal activity committed in flagrante delicto, or pursuant to a warrant issued by a lawful judge of Saint Hilda on the basis of probable cause.

  3. Torture, involuntary physical maiming, or psychological abuse are prohibited without exception.

  4. All persons enjoy the right to free speech, free assembly, free press, and petition for grievances inasmuch as such expressions or manifestations are nonviolent, do not incite violence, do not jeopardize the health and security of others, or do not defame, slander, or libel a person, persons, or organization.

  5. All persons enjoy the right to freely practice nonviolent, harmless religious or cultural practice, as well as the right to abstain thereof.

  6. All citizens having seventeen years of age or greater shall have the right to freely vote or abstain from voting. The Government of Saint Hilda shall not institute a poll tax or attempt in any way to obstruct any citizen from voting.

  7. All persons, regardless of sex, religion, culture, socioeconomic status, or political identity are equal before the Government of Saint Hilda.

  8. No person shall be detained for criminal offense except under substantial charge filed by a prosecutor of Saint Hilda with the consent of the Ministry of Justice. Upon charge, all persons shall have the right to petition for a writ of habeas corpus to be seen by a court within forty-eight hours of their detainment. The right to habeas corpus may be suspended during justifiable grave internal or external unrest as declared by Parliament and ratified by the Constitutional Court, and such suspensions shall only last until the period of unrest has passed.

  9. All persons are protected against self-incrimination or the incrimination of their spouse or children.

  10. All persons have a right to a fair, unbiased, and expeditious trial in a court of law before a jury of their peers, and shall have unconstrained access to a trained barrister or barristers for their civil or criminal defense, and all communication between a person and their barrister shall be privileged beyond any subpoena; if a person cannot afford a private barrister, the state shall furnish one for them.
    All persons shall have the right to access and examine any evidence or testimony against them, as well as the right to bring forth and compel any evidence or testimony in their defense. All evidence or testimony offered in support of the innocence of the defense must be considered, regardless of the nature of such evidence or testimony.

  11. All persons found guilty shall have the right to petition for a writ of certiorari before a higher court, and no person shall be subjected to double jeopardy for the same offense.

  12. The Human Rights Act shall apply to the government of Saint Hilda and all constituent and local governing bodies therein, as well as within all chancelleries, consulates, and other extensions of the Government of Saint Hilda abroad, as well as on all vessels of land or sea, public or private, that fly the Saint Hilda flag.

I would like to sponsor.

Thank you.
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Postby Roosevetania » Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:08 pm

Inhorto wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:My character wouldn't agree. Also, Sweden abolished the death penalty in 1910 and 60% of adults don't support it iirc, so not really.

Since a co-author disagrees, I can’t amend without their consent. However, I do agree with you personally Roose, and I’m sure that we could debate it when it reaches the floor.

I’m out of the house right now, so I’ll strike the portion in question when I return. Again, sorry about that Agarntrop.

Upon very minimal research, it appears other Caribbean countries don't us ethe death penalty. I'll sponsor. Alexander Norberg, NPP.
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Postby Inhorto » Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:51 pm

Roosevetania wrote:
Inhorto wrote:Since a co-author disagrees, I can’t amend without their consent. However, I do agree with you personally Roose, and I’m sure that we could debate it when it reaches the floor.

I’m out of the house right now, so I’ll strike the portion in question when I return. Again, sorry about that Agarntrop.

Upon very minimal research, it appears other Caribbean countries don't us ethe death penalty. I'll sponsor. Alexander Norberg, NPP.

Done. Thank you.
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Postby Kowani » Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:29 pm

Inhorto wrote:
Kowani wrote:Sponsor-Dorgival R. Seč, SDP

Thank you for your sponsorship.

I figured that since I kinda attacked the last one, this one was due for it. :p
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Postby Inhorto » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:44 pm

Kowani wrote:
Inhorto wrote:Thank you for your sponsorship.

I figured that since I kinda attacked the last one, this one was due for it. :p

No worries; I reckon I deserved it :lol2:.
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Postby Martune » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:53 pm

I would sponsor some of these had i not taken the chair, what a shame
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Postby Kowani » Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:32 pm

Martune wrote:I would sponsor some of these had i not taken the chair, what a shame

:p The chains of command!
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Marriage Act
Authors: Sven Sköldsvik (R)
Sponsors: Dorgival R. Seč (SDP),



A bill to make provisions for the marriage of same-sex and opposite-sex couples in St Hilda and the rights of religions to perform marriage.

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED, as follows:



§1 - Definition of Marriage
  1. Marriage shall hereafter be defined as a voluntary union between two people over the legal age of marriage.
  2. The legality of marriage shall be determined without regard to the gender of its two participants.
  3. The legal age of marriage shall be set at sixteen with the consent of the legal guardians of both involved, or eighteen without the requirement for consent.
  4. Marriages shall not be valid between any two people that share a parent.
  5. Marriages shall not be legal between any two people that share a grandparent.
  6. Marriages shall not be legal between a parent and their child.
  7. Marriages shall not be legal between a grandparent and their grandchild.
  8. Marriages shall not be legal between an aunt or uncle and their niece or nephew.
  9. Marriages shall not be legal if entered between more than two persons.
  10. A marriage may not be entered by a person if they are already married to another person.

§2 - Recognition of Marriage
  • Marriages shall be recognised only if performed in a registry office, recognised religious congregation or a place that has been given the right to perform marriage.
  • Religious venues affiliated with the Church of Sweden shall be given the right to perform marriage.
  • Any other religious venues shall be given the right to perform marriage if it is given said right by the government.
  • A place that is not a registry office or religious venue may be given the right to solemise marriage through local government order.
  • A registry office may not discriminate in who it marries so long as the marriage is legally valid.
  • Religious venues have the right to discriminate in who they marry under religious freedom.
  • Other places may not discriminate in who they marry so long as the marriage is legally valid.
  • Marriages may only be legally valid if both parties consent and the marriage is witnessed by two other individuals.

§3 - Implementation
  • This act shall be implemented immediately upon its passage.
  • This act may be cited as the Marriage Act 2019.

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Postby Martune » Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:32 am

The interview was with Lance Darrow, not Austin Miller
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Postby Inhorto » Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:35 am

To the sponsors of the Human Rights Act, I have realized that we did not add any clause pertaining to ex post facto laws. Upon approval from Agantrop, the following clause has been added:

No law shall be administered ex post facto, except those applying retroactively in mitius or any statute that enforces international peremptory norms.
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Postby Agarntrop » Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:25 pm

Conscription Act
Author: James Penta (Green)

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED, as follows:



§1 - Repeal
  1. All laws in conflict with this legislation are henceforth repealed.

§2 - Registration
  1. All persons, regardless of gender, must legally register for conscription into the Saint Hildan armed forces after their 15th but before their 17th birthday
  2. If a person fails to do the act required under Section 2.1, they shall be detained for at most 75 days upon indictment
  3. The legal parents and/or guardians of a person who fails to do the act required under Section 2.1 will be fined at most 50,000 Kr or imprisoned for at most six months
  4. If the person themselves or their legal parents and/or guardians are deemed not to have control over the decision not to comply with Section 2.1 no penalty shall be imposed on them
  5. Persons deemed medically unfit for service are exempt from the requirements of Section 2.1

§3 - Effectivity
  1. With a simple majority, parliament may invoke an order to 'invoke section 3.1' meaning that all persons who have registered under Section 2.1 aged between 18 and 25 are legally required to spend an amount of time - specified by parliament - in the Saint Hildan armed forces before they turn 25.
  2. If an order to invoke section 3.1 is repealed (again, with a simple majority), once every person who had registered under section 2.1 who was between the ages of 18 and 25 when section 3.1 was invoked has spent their time in the armed forces as mandated by Parliament conscription will no longer be in effect.
  3. Any person who evades or attempts to evade the requirements made during such an order to invoke section 3.1 as detailed in Section 3.1 shall be fined or imprisoned for 6 months or less.
  4. A person who has been convicted of a crime prior to their 18th birthday must spend the year between their 18th and 19th birthday either in the armed forces of Saint Hilda or completing community work (what 'community work' entails shall be at the discretion of their municipal authority), regardless of whether parliament has invoked section 3.1 or not.
  5. A person who tries to evade the requirements of section 3.4 shall be punished with imprisonment for no more than two years
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Postby East Meranopirus » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:52 am

Agarntrop wrote:
Conscription Act
Author: James Penta (Green)

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED, as follows:



§1 - Repeal
  1. All laws in conflict with this legislation are henceforth repealed.

§2 - Registration
  1. All persons, regardless of gender, must legally register for conscription into the Saint Hildan armed forces after their 15th but before their 17th birthday
  2. If a person fails to do the act required under Section 2.1, they shall be detained for at most 75 days upon indictment
  3. The legal parents and/or guardians of a person who fails to do the act required under Section 2.1 will be fined at most 50,000 Kr or imprisoned for at most six months
  4. If the person themselves or their legal parents and/or guardians are deemed not to have control over the decision not to comply with Section 2.1 no penalty shall be imposed on them
  5. Persons deemed medically unfit for service are exempt from the requirements of Section 2.1

§3 - Effectivity
  1. With a simple majority, parliament may invoke an order to 'invoke section 3.1' meaning that all persons who have registered under Section 2.1 aged between 18 and 25 are legally required to spend an amount of time - specified by parliament - in the Saint Hildan armed forces before they turn 25.
  2. If an order to invoke section 3.1 is repealed (again, with a simple majority), once every person who had registered under section 2.1 who was between the ages of 18 and 25 when section 3.1 was invoked has spent their time in the armed forces as mandated by Parliament conscription will no longer be in effect.
  3. Any person who evades or attempts to evade the requirements made during such an order to invoke section 3.1 as detailed in Section 3.1 shall be fined or imprisoned for 6 months or less.
  4. A person who has been convicted of a crime prior to their 18th birthday must spend the year between their 18th and 19th birthday either in the armed forces of Saint Hilda or completing community work (what 'community work' entails shall be at the discretion of their municipal authority), regardless of whether parliament has invoked section 3.1 or not.
  5. A person who tries to evade the requirements of section 3.4 shall be punished with imprisonment for no more than two years

I don't think you should write "invoke section 3.1" in Section 3.1. Instead just say:

"With a simple majority, parliament may order all persons who have registered under Section 2.1 aged between 18 and 25 to spend an amount of time - specified by parliament - in the Saint Hildan armed forces before they turn 25."

Same goes for the other clauses that mention invoking section 3.1

That said, however, I do not support conscription. Reserving conscription for wartime, maybe, but not a blanket law that allows conscription.
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Postby Agarntrop » Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:01 am

East Meranopirus wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:
Conscription Act
Author: James Penta (Green)


BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED, as follows:



§1 - Repeal
  1. All laws in conflict with this legislation are henceforth repealed.

§2 - Registration
  1. All persons, regardless of gender, must legally register for conscription into the Saint Hildan armed forces after their 15th but before their 17th birthday
  2. If a person fails to do the act required under Section 2.1, they shall be detained for at most 75 days upon indictment
  3. The legal parents and/or guardians of a person who fails to do the act required under Section 2.1 will be fined at most 50,000 Kr or imprisoned for at most six months
  4. If the person themselves or their legal parents and/or guardians are deemed not to have control over the decision not to comply with Section 2.1 no penalty shall be imposed on them
  5. Persons deemed medically unfit for service are exempt from the requirements of Section 2.1

§3 - Effectivity
  1. With a simple majority, parliament may invoke an order to 'invoke section 3.1' meaning that all persons who have registered under Section 2.1 aged between 18 and 25 are legally required to spend an amount of time - specified by parliament - in the Saint Hildan armed forces before they turn 25.
  2. If an order to invoke section 3.1 is repealed (again, with a simple majority), once every person who had registered under section 2.1 who was between the ages of 18 and 25 when section 3.1 was invoked has spent their time in the armed forces as mandated by Parliament conscription will no longer be in effect.
  3. Any person who evades or attempts to evade the requirements made during such an order to invoke section 3.1 as detailed in Section 3.1 shall be fined or imprisoned for 6 months or less.
  4. A person who has been convicted of a crime prior to their 18th birthday must spend the year between their 18th and 19th birthday either in the armed forces of Saint Hilda or completing community work (what 'community work' entails shall be at the discretion of their municipal authority), regardless of whether parliament has invoked section 3.1 or not.
  5. A person who tries to evade the requirements of section 3.4 shall be punished with imprisonment for no more than two years

I don't think you should write "invoke section 3.1" in Section 3.1. Instead just say:

"With a simple majority, parliament may order all persons who have registered under Section 2.1 aged between 18 and 25 to spend an amount of time - specified by parliament - in the Saint Hildan armed forces before they turn 25."

Same goes for the other clauses.


Conscription Act
Author: James Penta (Green)
Sponsors: Michael Thomas (NPP)


BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED, as follows:



§1 - Repeal
  1. All laws in conflict with this legislation are henceforth repealed.

§2 - Registration
  1. All persons, regardless of gender, must legally register for conscription into the Saint Hildan armed forces after their 15th but before their 17th birthday
  2. If a person fails to do the act required under Section 2.1, they shall be detained for at most 75 days upon indictment
  3. The legal parents and/or guardians of a person who fails to do the act required under Section 2.1 will be fined at most 50,000 Kr or imprisoned for at most six months
  4. If the person themselves or their legal parents and/or guardians are deemed not to have control over the decision not to comply with Section 2.1 no penalty shall be imposed on them
  5. Persons deemed medically unfit for service are exempt from the requirements of Section 2.1

§3 - Effectivity
  1. With a simple majority, parliament may order all persons who have registered under Section 2.1 aged between 18 and 25 to spend an amount of time - specified by parliament - in the Saint Hildan armed forces before they turn 25.
  2. If an order to do so is repealed (again, with a simple majority), once every person who had registered under section 2.1 who was between the ages of 18 and 25 when the order was passed has spent their time in the armed forces as mandated by Parliament conscription will no longer be in effect.
  3. Any person who evades or attempts to evade the requirements made during such an order as detailed in Section 3.1 shall be fined or imprisoned for 6 months or less.
  4. A person who has been convicted of a crime prior to their 18th birthday must spend the year between their 18th and 19th birthday either in the armed forces of Saint Hilda or completing community work (what 'community work' entails shall be at the discretion of their municipal authority), regardless of whether parliament has given out a Section 3.1 order or not.
  5. A person who tries to evade the requirements of section 3.4 shall be punished with imprisonment for no more than two years
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Martune wrote:The bill is already on the floor my dude

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