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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:14 am
by Saint Hilda Cartographic Society
Full-size constituency map.
The map is updated reasonably frequently though will typically avoid posting them here and flooding the general OOC. Here is the factbook with more regular updates.

It is interesting as we start to fill up enough to possibly identify some patterns. The SDP has a strong showing in Fort Ulrika urban constituencies, and the Liberals are prevalent in the suburbs and middle-income areas throughout the south of the island. More patterns of support may emerge in future, through coordination or coincidence.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:14 am
by Martune
Van Hool Islands wrote:I'm speaking as me instead of as an admin, but I'm assuming the other admins can back me up.

If you have the nerve to join our Discord server, tell us to close up shop because you have rose-tinted glasses on about the old Senate and how great it was, you are not welcome in our roleplay for the forseeable future. That is childish, unacceptable behaviour, and it's what gave the Senate a bad reputation with the admins prior.

Let's just not cause petty drama of any sort.

Yes. Please. It’s unacceptable and there’s no good reason for this.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:17 am
by East Meranopirus
Saint Hilda Cartographic Society wrote:Full-size constituency map.
The map is updated reasonably frequently though will typically avoid posting them here and flooding the general OOC. Here is the factbook with more regular updates.

It is interesting as we start to fill up enough to possibly identify some patterns. The SDP has a strong showing in Fort Ulrika urban constituencies, and the Liberals are prevalent in the suburbs and middle-income areas throughout the south of the island. More patterns of support may emerge in future, through coordination or coincidence.

Why is number 43 reserved? :eyebrow: Could you be thinking of taking that constituency.....?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:40 am
by The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism
East Meranopirus wrote:
Saint Hilda Cartographic Society wrote:Full-size constituency map.
The map is updated reasonably frequently though will typically avoid posting them here and flooding the general OOC. Here is the factbook with more regular updates.

It is interesting as we start to fill up enough to possibly identify some patterns. The SDP has a strong showing in Fort Ulrika urban constituencies, and the Liberals are prevalent in the suburbs and middle-income areas throughout the south of the island. More patterns of support may emerge in future, through coordination or coincidence.

Why is number 43 reserved? :eyebrow: Could you be thinking of taking that constituency.....?

I am planning on using 43, but not with my current character. Will make more sense later :p .

The advantage to me running this in my free time, is I can do that sort of thing. If other people do want to reserve a constituency for cool IC reasons they can get in touch and I'll see whether it merits reservation.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:55 am
by East Meranopirus
The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism wrote:
East Meranopirus wrote:Why is number 43 reserved? :eyebrow: Could you be thinking of taking that constituency.....?

I am planning on using 43, but not with my current character. Will make more sense later :p .

The advantage to me running this in my free time, is I can do that sort of thing. If other people do want to reserve a constituency for cool IC reasons they can get in touch and I'll see whether it merits reservation.

Hmm...It's for Juliette Hopp...isn't it? :p

HOPP GANG!

PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:04 am
by The Fort Ulrika Times
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:09 am
by The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism
East Meranopirus wrote:
The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism wrote:I am planning on using 43, but not with my current character. Will make more sense later :p .

The advantage to me running this in my free time, is I can do that sort of thing. If other people do want to reserve a constituency for cool IC reasons they can get in touch and I'll see whether it merits reservation.

Hmm...It's for Juliette Hopp...isn't it? :p

HOPP GANG!

It might be :p

Depends whether I have the time to explore that avenue.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:15 am
by Kowani
NS Nation Name: The Allied States Of Kowani
Name of Member(s) Attending: Dorgival R. Seč
Database Links to those Attending:Dorgival R. Seč
Party of Member(s) Attending: SDP
Topic you Would Like to Introduce to the Debate: Social Safety Nets

PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:01 am
by Agarntrop
Draft referendum act, feel free to make any suggestions:

Referendum on the Monarchy Act
Author: James Penta
Sponsors: Sven Sköldsvik, Viktoria Ljungstrand, Austin Miller



An Act to make provision for the holding of a referendum in the State of Saint Hilda on whether Saint Hilda should remain under the dominion of the Swedish crown

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED, as follows:




§1 - The Referendum
  1. A referendum is to be held on whether Saint Hilda should remain under the dominion of the Swedish crown
  2. The Prime Minister must, by regulations, appoint the day on which the referendum is held
  3. The day appointed under Section 1.2 -
    a. Must be no later than the 31 December 2021 (OOC: 31 August 2019)
    b. Must not be a day on which a parliamentary election is being held
  4. The question that is to appear on the ballot papers is-
    "Should Saint Hilda remain under the dominion of the Swedish Crown, or become a republic?"
  5. The alternative answers that are to appear on that ballot paper are-
    "Remain under the Dominion of the Swedish Crown

    Become a Republic"

§2 - Entitlement to Vote in the Referendum
  1. Those entitled to vote in the referendum are-
    a. the persons who, on the date of the referendum, would be entitled to vote as electors at a parliamentary election in any constituency
    b. the persons who, on that date, do not meet the requirements of 2.1.a. but would be entitled to vote as electors at a local government election in any electoral area of Saint Hilda
  2. In 2.1.b "local government election" includes a municipal election in the City of Fort Ulrika (that is, an election to the office of commisioner or an election to the representatives in the local council)

PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:51 am
by Crylante
Agarntrop wrote:Draft referendum act, feel free to make any suggestions:

Referendum on the Monarchy Act
Author: James Penta


An Act to make provision for the holding of a referendum in the State of Saint Hilda on whether Saint Hilda should remain under the dominion of the Swedish crown

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED, as follows:




§1 - The Referendum
  1. A referendum is to be held on whether Saint Hilda should remain under the dominion of the Swedish crown
  2. The Prime Minister must, by regulations, appoint the day on which the referendum is held
  3. The day appointed under Section 1.2 -
    a. Must be no later than the 31 December 2021 (OOC: 31 August 2019)
    b. Must not be a day on which a parliamentary election is being held
  4. The question that is to appear on the ballot papers is-
    "Should Saint Hilda remain under the dominion of the Swedish Crown, or become a republic?"
  5. The alternative answers that are to appear on that ballot paper are-
    "Remain under the Dominion of the Swedish Crown

    Become a Republic"

§2 - Entitlement to Vote in the Referendum
  1. Those entitled to vote in the referendum are-
    a. the persons who, on the date of the referendum, would be entitled to vote as electors at a parliamentary election in any constituency
    b. the persons who, on that date, do not meet the requirements of 2.1.a. but would be entitled to vote as electors at a local government election in any electoral area of Saint Hilda
  2. In 2.1.b "local government election" includes a municipal election in the City of Fort Ulrika (that is, an election to the office of commisioner or an election to the representatives in the local council)

Sponsor, Sven Sköldsvik, Republic

PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:00 pm
by The Archipelago Territory
Crylante wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:Draft referendum act, feel free to make any suggestions:

Referendum on the Monarchy Act
Author: James Penta


An Act to make provision for the holding of a referendum in the State of Saint Hilda on whether Saint Hilda should remain under the dominion of the Swedish crown

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED, as follows:




§1 - The Referendum
  1. A referendum is to be held on whether Saint Hilda should remain under the dominion of the Swedish crown
  2. The Prime Minister must, by regulations, appoint the day on which the referendum is held
  3. The day appointed under Section 1.2 -
    a. Must be no later than the 31 December 2021 (OOC: 31 August 2019)
    b. Must not be a day on which a parliamentary election is being held
  4. The question that is to appear on the ballot papers is-
    "Should Saint Hilda remain under the dominion of the Swedish Crown, or become a republic?"
  5. The alternative answers that are to appear on that ballot paper are-
    "Remain under the Dominion of the Swedish Crown

    Become a Republic"

§2 - Entitlement to Vote in the Referendum
  1. Those entitled to vote in the referendum are-
    a. the persons who, on the date of the referendum, would be entitled to vote as electors at a parliamentary election in any constituency
    b. the persons who, on that date, do not meet the requirements of 2.1.a. but would be entitled to vote as electors at a local government election in any electoral area of Saint Hilda
  2. In 2.1.b "local government election" includes a municipal election in the City of Fort Ulrika (that is, an election to the office of commisioner or an election to the representatives in the local council)

Sponsor, Sven Sköldsvik, Republic

Sponsored, Austin Miller, SHAPC Deputy Leader

PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:31 pm
by Van Hool Islands
Agarntrop wrote:Draft referendum act, feel free to make any suggestions:

Referendum on the Monarchy Act
Author: James Penta
Sponsors: Sven Sköldsvik



An Act to make provision for the holding of a referendum in the State of Saint Hilda on whether Saint Hilda should remain under the dominion of the Swedish crown

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED, as follows:




§1 - The Referendum
  1. A referendum is to be held on whether Saint Hilda should remain under the dominion of the Swedish crown
  2. The Prime Minister must, by regulations, appoint the day on which the referendum is held
  3. The day appointed under Section 1.2 -
    a. Must be no later than the 31 December 2021 (OOC: 31 August 2019)
    b. Must not be a day on which a parliamentary election is being held
  4. The question that is to appear on the ballot papers is-
    "Should Saint Hilda remain under the dominion of the Swedish Crown, or become a republic?"
  5. The alternative answers that are to appear on that ballot paper are-
    "Remain under the Dominion of the Swedish Crown

    Become a Republic"

§2 - Entitlement to Vote in the Referendum
  1. Those entitled to vote in the referendum are-
    a. the persons who, on the date of the referendum, would be entitled to vote as electors at a parliamentary election in any constituency
    b. the persons who, on that date, do not meet the requirements of 2.1.a. but would be entitled to vote as electors at a local government election in any electoral area of Saint Hilda
  2. In 2.1.b "local government election" includes a municipal election in the City of Fort Ulrika (that is, an election to the office of commisioner or an election to the representatives in the local council)

Sponsor, Viktoria Ljungstrand, SLP/R.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:34 pm
by Lysone
@Agarntrop I was working on a similar bill. Would you consider adding these sections to your version?

§3 - Regulation of the Referendum
  1. The Electoral Commission shall be responsible for the running and regulation of the referendum.
  2. The Electoral Commission shall nominate two campaign groups to be the official campaigns for either side of the referendum.
  3. The Electoral Commission shall be responsible for setting spending limits for the campaigns.

§4 - Impact of the Referendum
  1. Should the electorate opt to remain a dominion of the Swedish Crown there shall be no change to the way in which Saint Hilda is governed.
  2. Should the electorate opt to become a parliamentary republic, the Parliament of Saint Hilda shall be obligated to amend the Constitution of the State of Saint Hilda to implement the following:
    i. The establishment of the Office of the President which shall be the official government office of which the president is head.
    ii. The president shall replace the Swedish Crown as the head of state of Saint Hilda.
    iii. The president shall be required to be a citizen of Saint Hilda, at least twenty years of age and to have been a resident of Saint Hilda for at least fifteen years.
    iv. Elections for the presidency shall take place every three years (OOC: 3 months).
    v. Should the president resign or die in office, their duties shall be performed by the prime minister until a new election can be scheduled by the Electoral Commission.
    vi. Elections for the presidency shall used a two-round system, in which if no candidate gains an absolute majority in the first round of voting, a second round shall be scheduled between the two candidates with the most votes.
    vii. The president shall be responsible for the formal appointment of a prime minister, once they have demonstrated that they command the confidence of a majority of Parliament.
    viii. The president shall be responsible for conducting foreign policy in conjunction with with the prime minister and their government.


In addition, you give the government quite a lot of leeway over when to schedule the referendum. Given that we have a monarchist prime minister at the moment I feel like this will result in the referendum being put off for as long as possible. I'd suggest something like the timescale below, but don't really have my heart set on a particular timescale.

§X - Timing of the Referendum
  1. Following the formal passage of this legislation there shall be a one week period for the Electoral Commission to organise the referendum.
  2. Following this one week period a formal two week campaign period shall be declared, after which a 48 hour voting period shall be opened.
  3. Following the end of this voting period the Electoral Commission shall be charged with announcing the result of the referendum.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:57 pm
by Agarntrop
Lysone wrote:@Agarntrop I was working on a similar bill. Would you consider adding these sections to your version?

§3 - Regulation of the Referendum
  1. The Electoral Commission shall be responsible for the running and regulation of the referendum.
  2. The Electoral Commission shall nominate two campaign groups to be the official campaigns for either side of the referendum.
  3. The Electoral Commission shall be responsible for setting spending limits for the campaigns.

§4 - Impact of the Referendum
  1. Should the electorate opt to remain a dominion of the Swedish Crown there shall be no change to the way in which Saint Hilda is governed.
  2. Should the electorate opt to become a parliamentary republic, the Parliament of Saint Hilda shall be obligated to amend the Constitution of the State of Saint Hilda to implement the following:
    i. The establishment of the Office of the President which shall be the official government office of which the president is head.
    ii. The president shall replace the Swedish Crown as the head of state of Saint Hilda.
    iii. The president shall be required to be a citizen of Saint Hilda, at least twenty years of age and to have been a resident of Saint Hilda for at least fifteen years.
    iv. Elections for the presidency shall take place every three years (OOC: 3 months).
    v. Should the president resign or die in office, their duties shall be performed by the prime minister until a new election can be scheduled by the Electoral Commission.
    vi. Elections for the presidency shall used a two-round system, in which if no candidate gains an absolute majority in the first round of voting, a second round shall be scheduled between the two candidates with the most votes.
    vii. The president shall be responsible for the formal appointment of a prime minister, once they have demonstrated that they command the confidence of a majority of Parliament.
    viii. The president shall be responsible for conducting foreign policy in conjunction with with the prime minister and their government.


In addition, you give the government quite a lot of leeway over when to schedule the referendum. Given that we have a monarchist prime minister at the moment I feel like this will result in the referendum being put off for as long as possible. I'd suggest something like the timescale below, but don't really have my heart set on a particular timescale.

§X - Timing of the Referendum
  1. Following the formal passage of this legislation there shall be a one week period for the Electoral Commission to organise the referendum.
  2. Following this one week period a formal two week campaign period shall be declared, after which a 48 hour voting period shall be opened.
  3. Following the end of this voting period the Electoral Commission shall be charged with announcing the result of the referendum.

I would add §3 and §4, but not §X as we don't want to rule out any government members voting for it.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:00 pm
by Agarntrop
Draft #2:

Referendum on the Monarchy Act
Author: James Penta
Sponsors: Sven Sköldsvik, Viktoria Ljungstrand, Austin Miller, Birgitta Marklund



An Act to make provision for the holding of a referendum in the State of Saint Hilda on whether Saint Hilda should remain under the dominion of the Swedish crown

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED, as follows:




§1 - The Referendum
  1. A referendum is to be held on whether Saint Hilda should remain under the dominion of the Swedish crown
  2. The Prime Minister must, by regulations, appoint the day on which the referendum is held
  3. The day appointed under Section 1.2 -
    a. Must be no later than the 31 December 2021 (OOC: 31 August 2019)
    b. Must not be a day on which a parliamentary election is being held
  4. The question that is to appear on the ballot papers is-
    "Should Saint Hilda remain under the dominion of the Swedish Crown, or become a republic?"
  5. The alternative answers that are to appear on that ballot paper are-
    "Remain under the Dominion of the Swedish Crown

    Become a Republic"

§2 - Entitlement to Vote in the Referendum
  1. Those entitled to vote in the referendum are-
    a. the persons who, on the date of the referendum, would be entitled to vote as electors at a parliamentary election in any constituency
    b. the persons who, on that date, do not meet the requirements of 2.1.a. but would be entitled to vote as electors at a local government election in any electoral area of Saint Hilda
  2. In 2.1.b "local government election" includes a municipal election in the City of Fort Ulrika (that is, an election to the office of commisioner or an election to the representatives in the local council)
§3 - Regulation of the Referendum
  1. The Electoral Commission shall be responsible for the running and regulation of the referendum.
  2. The Electoral Commission shall nominate two campaign groups to be the official campaigns for either side of the referendum.
  3. The Electoral Commission shall be responsible for setting spending limits for the campaigns.

§4 - Impact of the Referendum
  1. Should the electorate opt to remain a dominion of the Swedish Crown there shall be no change to the way in which Saint Hilda is governed.
  2. Should the electorate opt to become a parliamentary republic, the Parliament of Saint Hilda shall be obligated to amend the Constitution of the State of Saint Hilda to implement the following:
    i. The establishment of the Office of the President which shall be the official government office of which the president is head.
    ii. The president shall replace the Swedish Crown as the head of state of Saint Hilda.
    iii. The president shall be required to be a citizen of Saint Hilda, at least twenty years of age and to have been a resident of Saint Hilda for at least fifteen years.
    iv. Elections for the presidency shall take place every three years (OOC: 3 months).
    v. Should the president resign or die in office, their duties shall be performed by the prime minister until a new election can be scheduled by the Electoral Commission.
    vi. Elections for the presidency shall used a two-round system, in which if no candidate gains an absolute majority in the first round of voting, a second round shall be scheduled between the two candidates with the most votes.
    vii. The president shall be responsible for the formal appointment of a prime minister, once they have demonstrated that they command the confidence of a majority of Parliament.
    viii. The president shall be responsible for conducting foreign policy in conjunction with with the prime minister and their government.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:50 pm
by Lysone
Fair enough. I'll sponsor it.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:52 am
by NS Parliament Administrators
OP tweaked a little.

Also, please note that when deciding your constituencies population for the Database, make sure it is between 15,000 and 25,000 people. It may seem like a lot but it's canon.

-Martune

PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:37 am
by The Archipelago Territory

PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:16 pm
by Pharexia
Nation Name: Pharexia
History of Warnings, Bans, etc: None
Character Name (Optional, Add Full Profile In Database): Dr. Enya Holmberg Tikhonova
Party (choose from existing parties or create one with the party application): National People's Party


SHCS Constituency Information Form
Constituency ID: 1
Constituency Name: Stavíxs—Thine Islands
Constituency Representative: Enya Tikhonova
Representative's Party: NPP
Any relevant database links: Will add in due time

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:51 am
by The Archipelago Territory
Went to the House of Lords today. A boring guy was talking about airplanes so a bunch of barons were on their phones and/or left while he spoke. Then in Commons some Scottish guy roasted Theresa May. After that, the parliament went on lockdown.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:32 pm
by Agarntrop
The Archipelago Territory wrote:Went to the House of Lords today. A boring guy was talking about airplanes so a bunch of barons were on their phones and/or left while he spoke. Then in Commons some Scottish guy roasted Theresa May. After that, the parliament went on lockdown.

This should go in the discord, not related to the RP.

/not an admin

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:47 pm
by The Archipelago Territory
Yeah I know. I’m just saying that our NS parliament is great compared to the U.K. one

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:06 pm
by Nariterrr
bill.submit
Saint Hilda Republicanism Amendment
Author: François DeMontaigne (IND)


An act of Parliament to repeal the Constitution of Saint Hilda and render Saint Hilda a sovereign republic

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED, as follows:



  1. Repeals the Constitution of Saint Hilda, rendering it null and void.
  2. Creates the Saint Hilda Constitution Convention elected from the present drawn constituencies to recreate a constitution.
  3. Garauntees that the next government of Saint Hilda shall be a republic divorced from Sweden or any foreign power.
  4. Dissolves the Parliament.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:11 pm
by The Archipelago Territory
Nariterrr wrote:bill.submit
Saint Hilda Republicanism Amendment
Author: François DeMontaigne (IND)


An act of Parliament to repeal the Constitution of Saint Hilda and render Saint Hilda a sovereign republic

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED, as follows:



  1. Repeals the Constitution of Saint Hilda, rendering it null and void.
  2. Creates the Saint Hilda Constitution Convention elected from the present drawn constituencies to recreate a constitution.
  3. Garauntees that the next government of Saint Hilda shall be a republic divorced from Sweden or any foreign power.
  4. Dissolves the Parliament.


Lol that would literally get struck down by every member because it’s vague and illegal

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:20 pm
by Nariterrr
The Archipelago Territory wrote:
Nariterrr wrote:bill.submit
Saint Hilda Republicanism Amendment
Author: François DeMontaigne (IND)


An act of Parliament to repeal the Constitution of Saint Hilda and render Saint Hilda a sovereign republic

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED, as follows:



  1. Repeals the Constitution of Saint Hilda, rendering it null and void.
  2. Creates the Saint Hilda Constitution Convention elected from the present drawn constituencies to recreate a constitution.
  3. Garauntees that the next government of Saint Hilda shall be a republic divorced from Sweden or any foreign power.
  4. Dissolves the Parliament.


Lol that would literally get struck down by every member because it’s vague and illegal

> calls my proposal vague and illegal
> gives no actual criticism and doesn't point out what is actually illegal

:clap: