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Ginger Ale Zevia
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Postby Ginger Ale Zevia » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:43 am

Oh shit we’re doing this again? - Werp

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Roosevetania
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Postby Roosevetania » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:11 am

Ginger Ale Zevia wrote:Oh shit we’re doing this again? - Werp

Come on in, Werp! It's been a while!
White Male, Libertarian Socialist, Anti-Fascist, United Methodist, American Deep South
Pro: socialism, anarchism (ideally), antifa, radical democracy, universal liberation, gun rights, open borders, revolution
Anti: capitalism, the state, authoritarianism, capitalist wars, capital punishment, Israel, generally most bourgeois institutions

Yang Jianguo, Member of the Revolutionary People's Party in the NS Parliament

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Martune
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Postby Martune » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:25 am

Ginger Ale Zevia wrote:Oh shit we’re doing this again? - Werp

Yes indeed.
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Who even knows what I am politically anymore

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East Meranopirus
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Postby East Meranopirus » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:35 pm

Seeing as Isaksson hasn't had an update in a while, I have taken it upon myself to post an OOC update on the current layout of Parliament based on several votes. The following diagrams show everyone who has voted in the past votes.

Contradictory amendments vote:
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Constitution ratification vote:
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Additionally, for the Constitution vote, I've created a separate one with those who have posted in the chamber within 24 hours of the vote ending, on the assumption that the confidence vote will last 48 hours:
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Speaker vote:
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Same thing with the Speaker vote (but using the 24 hours prior):
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From left to right:
Red: Peoples Labour Party (the sole Mountain Party member has not voted)
Pink: Republic
Dark Green: Center-Progressive
Purple: Social Democratic Party
Green: The Greens
Light Blue: Social Liberal Party - The Radicals
Gold: Christian People's Congress Caucus
Blue: National Peoples Party
Yellow: Free People's Party (formerly Capitalist Party)
Orange: Sankta Hilda All-Patriots' Congress
Dark Red: Försvara vårt Arv
Maroon: Front for Revolutionary Nationalism
Black: People's Front for National Sovereignty


A few observations to make:
1. The leftist majority is thinning - A leftist majority government would require all leftist parties (CPC is now classified as right), though a right government would be even less likely.
2. The fascists are gone - there are pretty much no fascists voting (though I have observed some fascists popping up after the Constitution vote: they will be included in a later update)
3. The largest party size is actually about 4 or 5 - The two big parties, SLP;R and NPP, have struggled to have half of their members vote, while other small parties have had better turnout rates, especially the SDP consistently with 4 or even 5 voters (shameless plug :p ).
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Rebels and Saints
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Postby Rebels and Saints » Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:08 am

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Oh, dear.

Look, I took a break from NS as a whole, and now, coming back, I'm relatively lost as to what's going on here. Could somebody give me a brief rundown on what's happening?

Thanks in advance.
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The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism
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Postby The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism » Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:26 am

Rebels and Saints wrote:...
Oh, dear.

Look, I took a break from NS as a whole, and now, coming back, I'm relatively lost as to what's going on here. Could somebody give me a brief rundown on what's happening?

Thanks in advance.

Basically, we've just finished passing a constitution and reconfirming the previous speaker. No legislation has happened other than the constitution. What's happening at the moment is mostly the metadiscussion around forming a government.

EDIT:
Also, apologies to all for the delay on Isaksson updates, I've been preoccupied with university exams.
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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:14 pm

Since we don’t really have a place to write our bills anymore, I’m just gonna link to my UBE Act, so that I don’t lose it. :lol:
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Lysone
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Postby Lysone » Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:44 am

So are bills proposed/discussed here now before moving onto the chamber?
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Sinyal
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Postby Sinyal » Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:06 am

Nation Name: Sinyal
History of Warnings, Bans, etc: None
Character Name: Drake Smith
Party: Social Liberal Party: The Radicals

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Roosevetania
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Postby Roosevetania » Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:06 am

Sinyal wrote:
Nation Name: Sinyal
History of Warnings, Bans, etc: None
Character Name: Drake Smith
Party: Social Liberal Party: The Radicals

Welcome!
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Pro: socialism, anarchism (ideally), antifa, radical democracy, universal liberation, gun rights, open borders, revolution
Anti: capitalism, the state, authoritarianism, capitalist wars, capital punishment, Israel, generally most bourgeois institutions

Yang Jianguo, Member of the Revolutionary People's Party in the NS Parliament

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Sinyal
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Postby Sinyal » Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:09 am

I'm thinking about making my own party but no one would join it

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Martune
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Postby Martune » Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:52 pm

Sinyal wrote:I'm thinking about making my own party but no one would join it

What would it be
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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:56 pm

So, for those of us who don’t have access to the Discord, what’s the holdup?
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Roosevetania
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Postby Roosevetania » Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:33 pm

Kowani wrote:So, for those of us who don’t have access to the Discord, what’s the holdup?

The left-ish and the right-ish are both ironing out the last details. We're waiting on confirmation. It shouldn't be too long.
White Male, Libertarian Socialist, Anti-Fascist, United Methodist, American Deep South
Pro: socialism, anarchism (ideally), antifa, radical democracy, universal liberation, gun rights, open borders, revolution
Anti: capitalism, the state, authoritarianism, capitalist wars, capital punishment, Israel, generally most bourgeois institutions

Yang Jianguo, Member of the Revolutionary People's Party in the NS Parliament

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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:18 pm

Roosevetania wrote:
Kowani wrote:So, for those of us who don’t have access to the Discord, what’s the holdup?

The left-ish and the right-ish are both ironing out the last details. We're waiting on confirmation. It shouldn't be too long.

Okay! Thanks!
American History and Historiography; Political and Labour History, Urbanism, Political Parties, Congressional Procedure, Elections.

Servant of The Democracy since 1896.


Historian, of sorts.

Effortposts can be found here!

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Arkhastok
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Postby Arkhastok » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:26 pm

tag, im very late from coming in the beginning but hope I'll still be able to join and catch up

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Arkhastok
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Postby Arkhastok » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:35 pm

Nation Name: Arkhastok
History of Warnings, Bans, etc: None
Character Name (Optional, Add Full Profile In Database): Rasti Andresson
Party (choose from existing parties or create one with the party application): National People's Party


I'll get the detailed profile up later, too sick to concentrate right now.

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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:47 pm

Arkhastok wrote:
Nation Name: Arkhastok
History of Warnings, Bans, etc: None
Character Name (Optional, Add Full Profile In Database): Rasti Andresson
Party (choose from existing parties or create one with the party application): National People's Party


I'll get the detailed profile up later, too sick to concentrate right now.

Oof. Get better, mate.
American History and Historiography; Political and Labour History, Urbanism, Political Parties, Congressional Procedure, Elections.

Servant of The Democracy since 1896.


Historian, of sorts.

Effortposts can be found here!

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Roosevetania
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Postby Roosevetania » Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:09 am

Arkhastok wrote:
Nation Name: Arkhastok
History of Warnings, Bans, etc: None
Character Name (Optional, Add Full Profile In Database): Rasti Andresson
Party (choose from existing parties or create one with the party application): National People's Party


I'll get the detailed profile up later, too sick to concentrate right now.

Welcome to you, too! You picked the right party. ;)
White Male, Libertarian Socialist, Anti-Fascist, United Methodist, American Deep South
Pro: socialism, anarchism (ideally), antifa, radical democracy, universal liberation, gun rights, open borders, revolution
Anti: capitalism, the state, authoritarianism, capitalist wars, capital punishment, Israel, generally most bourgeois institutions

Yang Jianguo, Member of the Revolutionary People's Party in the NS Parliament

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The Archipelago Territory
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Postby The Archipelago Territory » Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:58 am

Basically I’m the conservative and centrist candidate for PM. More libertarian
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East Meranopirus
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Postby East Meranopirus » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:43 am

The Archipelago Territory wrote:Basically I’m the conservative and centrist candidate for PM. More libertarian

Basically I don't think you consulted your party before making that announcement

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The Archipelago Territory
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Postby The Archipelago Territory » Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:41 am

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Author: Austin Miller
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So as to ensure executive and legislative oversight over critical government functions

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED, as follows:



§1 - The Cabinet
  1. With the consent of parliament, the Prime Minister shall appoint several Cabinet Ministers to oversee government functions.
  2. The Prime Minister may at any time dismiss a minister, and the parliament may at any time impeach a minister with a 2/3 majority vote.

§2 - Cabinet Ministers
  1. just
  2. The minister of foreign affairs shall function as the Chief Diplomat, and preside over all embassies.
  3. The Chief Attorney will be the one responsible for representing the government in judiciary disputes, as well as denouncing and prosecuting criminals, and guaranteeing the application of the law.
  4. The Minister of Defense shall oversee military actions and surveillance agencies, and command the military when the Prime Minister is absent.
  5. The Prime Minister, with the consent of Parliament, shall have the authority to create new ministers.
  6. All ministers may have a Deputy assist them with official matters.

§3 - Committees
  1. Parliament shall hereby be vested with the authority to create committees with a majority vote; and be it enacted that these committees shall at the beginning of their 5 year term elect a Chairperson, Spokesperson, and Vice-Chairperson.
  2. Each party shall send two members of parliament to serve on each committee.
  3. The Speaker, with the consent of the rest of Parliament, shall select one independent to serve on each committee.
  4. The Judiciary Committee shall be tasked with issuing subpoenas and launching investigations. If an official does not comply with a subpoena a parliamentary prosecutor shall refer the case to a High Court.
  5. The National Intelligence Committee shall oversee National Security matters. Those with a criminal history (in Saint Hilda or other nations) are not eligible to serve on this committee.
  6. The Appropriations committee shall oversee the funding of the National Budget.
  7. The committee of Ways and Means shall be tasked with approving constitutional amendments before they come to all of parliament for a vote. No member of this committee shall serve on any other committee. This committee may approve amendments with a simple majority vote.
  8. Members of Parliament can serve on an unlimited number of committees, with the only exception mentioned above.


We should vote on this because it creates Minister positions
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Zaporizhian Host
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Postby Zaporizhian Host » Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:46 am

Doesn't the constitution we passed allow the PM to create ministerial positions as they see fit?
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The Archipelago Territory
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Postby The Archipelago Territory » Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:19 am

Zaporizhian Host wrote:Doesn't the constitution we passed allow the PM to create ministerial positions as they see fit?

Yes but this would establish them and allow them to have a Deputy.
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East Meranopirus
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Postby East Meranopirus » Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:38 am

The Archipelago Territory wrote:
Zaporizhian Host wrote:Doesn't the constitution we passed allow the PM to create ministerial positions as they see fit?

Yes but this would establish them and allow them to have a Deputy.

And what benefit what this have over the PM deciding as suitable?

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