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Postby Flarbinia » Wed Jul 31, 2019 4:38 pm

The Japanese Americans wrote:I should let y'all know now while I can that I may not be very active. For how long, I don't know. This is the second time I've been able to get on today. The first time, I was busy catching up on what I missed. For the past three, I haven't been able to. So, just wanted to warn y'all.

Thanks for telling me.
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Postby Pere Housh Alpha » Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:34 am

My character wasn't hurt that badly plus I heal really fast.
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Postby Quebec-Libre » Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:13 pm

Pere Housh Alpha wrote:My character wasn't hurt that badly plus I heal really fast.
"My character wasn't hurt the badly-"

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Postby Talchyon » Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:54 am

OP - A while ago I asked you to put the roster list on the first page of the OOC and I'm still waiting. I know you made a roster list and posted it, but it beats me where it is and I just spent too much time trying to find a specific app.
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Postby Flarbinia » Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:55 pm

Talchyon wrote:OP - A while ago I asked you to put the roster list on the first page of the OOC and I'm still waiting. I know you made a roster list and posted it, but it beats me where it is and I just spent too much time trying to find a specific app.

I have added the roster to the OP. Please stop bugging me about it.

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Postby Pere Housh Alpha » Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:11 pm

As Ben Shapiro likes to say, "Facts don't care about feelings."
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Postby The Japanese Americans » Sat Aug 03, 2019 3:34 am

Was Lee rescued yet? Because as far as I can tell, he was left in Europe.
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Postby Talchyon » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:19 am

So, I just went back and read up on Ethan's app, because I remembered that he had magnetic powers but didn't remember what else he could do. But going back and seeing his app, dang. 13 powers?! With no real weaknesses?! So in this fight with Diego, what can my character do?

I'll tell you what Diego can do. Nothing. If he gets up to his full strength from the rats and tries to pummel Ethan, Ethan's force shield blocks it, or Ethan flies and avoids it, or he freezes Diego, or he mind controls him! Did I miss anything?

Even if I had my other character Jim here, too, and I honestly thought about it, Jim would be useless too because Ethan has a mind block.

The character cannot be beaten. Unless you have someone who can teleport him to outer space or something, or maybe a person who can send Ethan 2 million years in the future.

Other than that, Ethan is the definition of a Mary Sue character. And I request an official re-investigation of his app by the OP, this time to limit Ethan's powers to maybe 4 or 5 like the rest of us, and to insist that he has some actual weaknesses. I don't care if Ethan wins this fight with Diego or not. I assume he will. But otherwise, there is literally no way to beat him and no reason to really even try.
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Postby Talchyon » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:26 am

Flarbinia wrote:
Talchyon wrote:OP - A while ago I asked you to put the roster list on the first page of the OOC and I'm still waiting. I know you made a roster list and posted it, but it beats me where it is and I just spent too much time trying to find a specific app.

I have added the roster to the OP. Please stop bugging me about it.


Thank you. And if you would also update it so Diego is also listed (as well as other newer characters), that would be great too.
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Postby The Japanese Americans » Sat Aug 03, 2019 12:46 pm

The Japanese Americans wrote:Was Lee rescued yet? Because as far as I can tell, he was left in Europe.


Nevermind. Upon closer inspection, Lee was rescued and taken back to the states. Sorry for the disturbance.
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Postby Flarbinia » Sat Aug 03, 2019 1:35 pm

Talchyon wrote:So, I just went back and read up on Ethan's app, because I remembered that he had magnetic powers but didn't remember what else he could do. But going back and seeing his app, dang. 13 powers?! With no real weaknesses?! So in this fight with Diego, what can my character do?

I'll tell you what Diego can do. Nothing. If he gets up to his full strength from the rats and tries to pummel Ethan, Ethan's force shield blocks it, or Ethan flies and avoids it, or he freezes Diego, or he mind controls him! Did I miss anything?

Even if I had my other character Jim here, too, and I honestly thought about it, Jim would be useless too because Ethan has a mind block.

The character cannot be beaten. Unless you have someone who can teleport him to outer space or something, or maybe a person who can send Ethan 2 million years in the future.

Other than that, Ethan is the definition of a Mary Sue character. And I request an official re-investigation of his app by the OP, this time to limit Ethan's powers to maybe 4 or 5 like the rest of us, and to insist that he has some actual weaknesses. I don't care if Ethan wins this fight with Diego or not. I assume he will. But otherwise, there is literally no way to beat him and no reason to really even try.

Ethan can be beaten, just not by Jim Keller. While he does have thirteen powers, I doubt he can mind control while he is using his force field (I have already asked him to add that weakness).

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Postby Talchyon » Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:01 pm

Flarbinia wrote:
Talchyon wrote:So, I just went back and read up on Ethan's app, because I remembered that he had magnetic powers but didn't remember what else he could do. But going back and seeing his app, dang. 13 powers?! With no real weaknesses?! So in this fight with Diego, what can my character do?

I'll tell you what Diego can do. Nothing. If he gets up to his full strength from the rats and tries to pummel Ethan, Ethan's force shield blocks it, or Ethan flies and avoids it, or he freezes Diego, or he mind controls him! Did I miss anything?

Even if I had my other character Jim here, too, and I honestly thought about it, Jim would be useless too because Ethan has a mind block.

The character cannot be beaten. Unless you have someone who can teleport him to outer space or something, or maybe a person who can send Ethan 2 million years in the future.

Other than that, Ethan is the definition of a Mary Sue character. And I request an official re-investigation of his app by the OP, this time to limit Ethan's powers to maybe 4 or 5 like the rest of us, and to insist that he has some actual weaknesses. I don't care if Ethan wins this fight with Diego or not. I assume he will. But otherwise, there is literally no way to beat him and no reason to really even try.

Ethan can be beaten, just not by Jim Keller. While he does have thirteen powers, I doubt he can mind control while he is using his force field (I have already asked him to add that weakness).


I ask, how is it even possible? Because literally, I don't see any way any character here could do it.
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Postby Quebec-Libre » Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:26 pm

Quebec-Libre wrote:Name: Ethanael "Ethan" Davrol

Age: 29

Appearance:


Affiliation: Anti-Hero / Villain

Bio: Ethanael Davrol is a Canadian, but his parents were Finish immigrants. Born in Quebec, he emigrated to the U.S. at age 9 and was like any other student until discovered his abilities at the age of 15, when he accidentally shoved one of his classmates into a wall with his telekinetic abilities. He at first used them to acquire power, not held back by his parents as they both died in a car crash. This thirst for control led him to confront several heroes, including Homme Superior, aswell as to ally with the Bronze Boss. Building up his crime empire, he accumulated countless wealth by the age of 21. In the meantime he perfected the usage of his powers and constructed his power armor. He tho experienced a profound change of heart about 2 years before the Durant incident. This was the direct result of the death of his Sister, Clara, to the hands of Baron Von Buzzard. The tragedy caused him to break almost all ties with the meta-community. Now though, he seeks for revenge against R.A.G.N.A.R.O.K, who he found out were behind the death of his parents. This motive is though hidden, and supplemented by his wish to see an end to the oppression of metahumans.

Category (Power Level): 6

Powers: Levitation and Flight (Telekinesis-assisted), High-Level Telekinesis (includes Pyrokinesis, Cryokinesis, Density Manipulation, Hydrokinesis, Controlled Magnetism and Seismic Manipulation), Heightened Senses, Telepathy, Mind-Control and Resistance to Mind-Control on him.

Non-Metahuman Related assets: Ethanael, due to his upbringing, speaks fluent French, English (duh), Finnish, Karelian and Russian. In school he also learned Spanish and German.

Weaknesses: He is unable to use Mind-Control if using his telekinetic abilities. If removed of his helmet, he is still capable to resist mind control to an extent, but it would drain him and within 2 minutes he'd be unable to resist further. If attacked with any sort of plastic-based weaponry (or non-magnetic metals), his senses can be outrun by multiple opponents (or a speedster). Furthermore he cannot summon Fire, Ice or Water from more than 5 meters away from him. That range jumps to 30 meters for magnetic metals, and, during a storm, is practically limitless with plasma. However he must be at 100% of his ability to gather said plasma, if not it would result in him being straight up struck by lightning.

Likes: Friendship, History, Science, Videogames, Revenge

Dislikes: Stupidity, Arrogance, Pedos and other nasty people, R.A.G.N.A.R.O.K

Here. He also does produce force fields, only magnetic fields. So if you're shooting a tenis ball at his head with enough strength, he's going down.
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Postby Flarbinia » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:50 pm

Quebec-Libre wrote:
Quebec-Libre wrote:Name: Ethanael "Ethan" Davrol

Age: 29

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Affiliation: Anti-Hero / Villain

Bio: Ethanael Davrol is a Canadian, but his parents were Finish immigrants. Born in Quebec, he emigrated to the U.S. at age 9 and was like any other student until discovered his abilities at the age of 15, when he accidentally shoved one of his classmates into a wall with his telekinetic abilities. He at first used them to acquire power, not held back by his parents as they both died in a car crash. This thirst for control led him to confront several heroes, including Homme Superior, aswell as to ally with the Bronze Boss. Building up his crime empire, he accumulated countless wealth by the age of 21. In the meantime he perfected the usage of his powers and constructed his power armor. He tho experienced a profound change of heart about 2 years before the Durant incident. This was the direct result of the death of his Sister, Clara, to the hands of Baron Von Buzzard. The tragedy caused him to break almost all ties with the meta-community. Now though, he seeks for revenge against R.A.G.N.A.R.O.K, who he found out were behind the death of his parents. This motive is though hidden, and supplemented by his wish to see an end to the oppression of metahumans.

Category (Power Level): 6

Powers: Levitation and Flight (Telekinesis-assisted), High-Level Telekinesis (includes Pyrokinesis, Cryokinesis, Density Manipulation, Hydrokinesis, Controlled Magnetism and Seismic Manipulation), Heightened Senses, Telepathy, Mind-Control and Resistance to Mind-Control on him.

Non-Metahuman Related assets: Ethanael, due to his upbringing, speaks fluent French, English (duh), Finnish, Karelian and Russian. In school he also learned Spanish and German.

Weaknesses: He is unable to use Mind-Control if using his telekinetic abilities. If removed of his helmet, he is still capable to resist mind control to an extent, but it would drain him and within 2 minutes he'd be unable to resist further. If attacked with any sort of plastic-based weaponry (or non-magnetic metals), his senses can be outrun by multiple opponents (or a speedster). Furthermore he cannot summon Fire, Ice or Water from more than 5 meters away from him. That range jumps to 30 meters for magnetic metals, and, during a storm, is practically limitless with plasma. However he must be at 100% of his ability to gather said plasma, if not it would result in him being straight up struck by lightning.

Likes: Friendship, History, Science, Videogames, Revenge

Dislikes: Stupidity, Arrogance, Pedos and other nasty people, R.A.G.N.A.R.O.K

Here. He also does produce force fields, only magnetic fields. So if you're shooting a tenis ball at his head with enough strength, he's going down.

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Postby Talchyon » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:21 pm

Quebec-Libre wrote:
Quebec-Libre wrote:Name: Ethanael "Ethan" Davrol

Age: 29

Appearance:


Affiliation: Anti-Hero / Villain

Bio: Ethanael Davrol is a Canadian, but his parents were Finish immigrants. Born in Quebec, he emigrated to the U.S. at age 9 and was like any other student until discovered his abilities at the age of 15, when he accidentally shoved one of his classmates into a wall with his telekinetic abilities. He at first used them to acquire power, not held back by his parents as they both died in a car crash. This thirst for control led him to confront several heroes, including Homme Superior, aswell as to ally with the Bronze Boss. Building up his crime empire, he accumulated countless wealth by the age of 21. In the meantime he perfected the usage of his powers and constructed his power armor. He tho experienced a profound change of heart about 2 years before the Durant incident. This was the direct result of the death of his Sister, Clara, to the hands of Baron Von Buzzard. The tragedy caused him to break almost all ties with the meta-community. Now though, he seeks for revenge against R.A.G.N.A.R.O.K, who he found out were behind the death of his parents. This motive is though hidden, and supplemented by his wish to see an end to the oppression of metahumans.

Category (Power Level): 6

Powers: Levitation and Flight (Telekinesis-assisted), High-Level Telekinesis (includes Pyrokinesis, Cryokinesis, Density Manipulation, Hydrokinesis, Controlled Magnetism and Seismic Manipulation), Heightened Senses, Telepathy, Mind-Control and Resistance to Mind-Control on him.

Non-Metahuman Related assets: Ethanael, due to his upbringing, speaks fluent French, English (duh), Finnish, Karelian and Russian. In school he also learned Spanish and German.

Weaknesses: He is unable to use Mind-Control if using his telekinetic abilities. If removed of his helmet, he is still capable to resist mind control to an extent, but it would drain him and within 2 minutes he'd be unable to resist further. If attacked with any sort of plastic-based weaponry (or non-magnetic metals), his senses can be outrun by multiple opponents (or a speedster). Furthermore he cannot summon Fire, Ice or Water from more than 5 meters away from him. That range jumps to 30 meters for magnetic metals, and, during a storm, is practically limitless with plasma. However he must be at 100% of his ability to gather said plasma, if not it would result in him being straight up struck by lightning.

Likes: Friendship, History, Science, Videogames, Revenge

Dislikes: Stupidity, Arrogance, Pedos and other nasty people, R.A.G.N.A.R.O.K

Here. He also does produce force fields, only magnetic fields. So if you're shooting a tenis ball at his head with enough strength, he's going down.


Take a look at this from my perspective. First, who goes around attacking anyone with tennis balls of all things?

Second, with Ethan's enhanced senses he would see the attack coming and either fly, levitate, telekinetically move the ball away, dodge, or remove or increase the density of the ball so it does no damage or fails to hit.

Third, your weaknesses really aren't that weak.
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Postby Quebec-Libre » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:59 pm

Quebec-Libre wrote:
Quebec-Libre wrote:Name: Ethanael "Ethan" Davrol

Age: 29

Appearance:


Affiliation: Anti-Hero / Villain

Bio: Ethanael Davrol is a Canadian, but his parents were Finish immigrants. Born in Quebec, he emigrated to the U.S. at age 9 and was like any other student until discovered his abilities at the age of 15, when he accidentally shoved one of his classmates into a wall with his telekinetic abilities. He at first used them to acquire power, not held back by his parents as they both died in a car crash. This thirst for control led him to confront several heroes, including Homme Superior, aswell as to ally with the Bronze Boss. Building up his crime empire, he accumulated countless wealth by the age of 21. In the meantime he perfected the usage of his powers and constructed his power armor. He tho experienced a profound change of heart about 2 years before the Durant incident. This was the direct result of the death of his Sister, Clara, to the hands of Baron Von Buzzard. The tragedy caused him to break almost all ties with the meta-community. Now though, he seeks for revenge against R.A.G.N.A.R.O.K, who he found out were behind the death of his parents. This motive is though hidden, and supplemented by his wish to see an end to the oppression of metahumans.

Category (Power Level): 6

Powers: Levitation and Flight (Telekinesis-assisted), High-Level Telekinesis (includes Pyrokinesis, Cryokinesis, Density Manipulation, Hydrokinesis, Controlled Magnetism and Seismic Manipulation), Heightened Senses, Telepathy, Mind-Control and Resistance to Mind-Control on him.

Non-Metahuman Related assets: Ethanael, due to his upbringing, speaks fluent French, English (duh), Finnish, Karelian and Russian. In school he also learned Spanish and German.

Weaknesses: He is unable to use Mind-Control if using his telekinetic abilities. If removed of his helmet, he is still capable to resist mind control to an extent, but it would drain him and within 2 minutes he'd be unable to resist further. If attacked with any sort of plastic-based weaponry (or non-magnetic metals), his senses can be outrun by multiple opponents (or a speedster). Furthermore he cannot summon Fire, Ice or Water from more than 5 meters away from him. That range jumps to 30 meters for magnetic metals, and, during a storm, is practically limitless with plasma. However he must be at 100% of his ability to gather said plasma, if not it would result in him being straight up struck by lightning.

Likes: Friendship, History, Science, Videogames, Revenge

Dislikes: Stupidity, Arrogance, Pedos and other nasty people, R.A.G.N.A.R.O.K

Here. He also does produce force fields, only magnetic fields. So if you're shooting a tenis ball at his head with enough strength, he's going down.
First, look at what I put in bold. Tennis balls were for metaphor purposes. Second, Look Again at what's in bold. He can only control magnetic metal objects, water, fire, ice. Throw, for example, a dozen balls at him from all directions. There's surely at the very least half of that that's going to strike. Now replace that with, for say, lead needles. Congrats, you just gave him lead poisoning. Third and Final, his biggest weakness isn't physical. He's an egoistical one. Not that much, but you can use that to lure him.

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Postby Talchyon » Sun Aug 04, 2019 7:49 pm

Quebec-Libre wrote:
Quebec-Libre wrote:Here. He also does produce force fields, only magnetic fields. So if you're shooting a tenis ball at his head with enough strength, he's going down.
First, look at what I put in bold. Tennis balls were for metaphor purposes. Second, Look Again at what's in bold. He can only control magnetic metal objects, water, fire, ice. Throw, for example, a dozen balls at him from all directions. There's surely at the very least half of that that's going to strike. Now replace that with, for say, lead needles. Congrats, you just gave him lead poisoning. Third and Final, his biggest weakness isn't physical. He's an egoistical one. Not that much, but you can use that to lure him.


So you're saying that as long as people can hit your character hard with objects that aren't normally used ever in fights, he could be hit by them as long as he didn't just dodge due to his advanced senses, or read their minds and know they were aiming at home, or control their minds in the first place...

And you're also saying that his "biggest" weakness is that he is egotistical... So he could be lured into a fight where he would almost automatically win anyway...

But he's not an overpowered Mary Sue...


Yeah. Sorry. I don't see it. He is still the mightiest character here with no real weaknesses except for things that are hardly ever used, or super slow acting like lead poisoning. Being egotistical is a personality trait and not a real weakness.

Oh, and now I see that you are also adding New powers to your character like mind wipe. That's not fair, just like it's not fair if I make Diego now able to make people's guts explode. You didn't have it on your app, you didn't ask the OP, you don't get to do it.
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Postby Quebec-Libre » Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:16 pm

Talchyon wrote:
Quebec-Libre wrote:First, look at what I put in bold. Tennis balls were for metaphor purposes. Second, Look Again at what's in bold. He can only control magnetic metal objects, water, fire, ice. Throw, for example, a dozen balls at him from all directions. There's surely at the very least half of that that's going to strike. Now replace that with, for say, lead needles. Congrats, you just gave him lead poisoning. Third and Final, his biggest weakness isn't physical. He's an egoistical one. Not that much, but you can use that to lure him.


So you're saying that as long as people can hit your character hard with objects that aren't normally used ever in fights, he could be hit by them as long as he didn't just dodge due to his advanced senses, or read their minds and know they were aiming at home, or control their minds in the first place...

And you're also saying that his "biggest" weakness is that he is egotistical... So he could be lured into a fight where he would almost automatically win anyway...

But he's not an overpowered Mary Sue...


Yeah. Sorry. I don't see it. He is still the mightiest character here with no real weaknesses except for things that are hardly ever used, or super slow acting like lead poisoning. Being egotistical is a personality trait and not a real weakness.

Oh, and now I see that you are also adding New powers to your character like mind wipe. That's not fair, just like it's not fair if I make Diego now able to make people's guts explode. You didn't have it on your app, you didn't ask the OP, you don't get to do it.

"Something not used in a fight"
You're right, a carbon-fiber baseball bat was never used in some brawl, ever. It also likely never even broke someone's nose, jaw, ribs, or anything.

"he could be hit by them as long as he didn't just dodge due to his advanced senses, or read their minds and know they were aiming at home, or control their minds in the first place"
A) He has advanced senses. That doesn't equal superhuman reflexes. Senses in that situation are hearing and sight. B) He'd need to be concentrated to read their minds and/or control them, which, if you've been swinging at him for the past 2 minutes, is a luxury he likely will not have.

"And you're also saying that his "biggest" weakness is that he is egotistical... So he could be lured into a fight where he would almost automatically win anyway..."
A) See previous points. B) His ego will lead him into traps. Try dropping a fuckton of lead balls on him from a height. He will not enjoy this.

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Postby Talchyon » Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:40 am

Quebec-Libre wrote:
Talchyon wrote:
So you're saying that as long as people can hit your character hard with objects that aren't normally used ever in fights, he could be hit by them as long as he didn't just dodge due to his advanced senses, or read their minds and know they were aiming at home, or control their minds in the first place...

And you're also saying that his "biggest" weakness is that he is egotistical... So he could be lured into a fight where he would almost automatically win anyway...

But he's not an overpowered Mary Sue...


Yeah. Sorry. I don't see it. He is still the mightiest character here with no real weaknesses except for things that are hardly ever used, or super slow acting like lead poisoning. Being egotistical is a personality trait and not a real weakness.

Oh, and now I see that you are also adding New powers to your character like mind wipe. That's not fair, just like it's not fair if I make Diego now able to make people's guts explode. You didn't have it on your app, you didn't ask the OP, you don't get to do it.

"Something not used in a fight"
You're right, a carbon-fiber baseball bat was never used in some brawl, ever. It also likely never even broke someone's nose, jaw, ribs, or anything.

"he could be hit by them as long as he didn't just dodge due to his advanced senses, or read their minds and know they were aiming at home, or control their minds in the first place"
A) He has advanced senses. That doesn't equal superhuman reflexes. Senses in that situation are hearing and sight. B) He'd need to be concentrated to read their minds and/or control them, which, if you've been swinging at him for the past 2 minutes, is a luxury he likely will not have.

"And you're also saying that his "biggest" weakness is that he is egotistical... So he could be lured into a fight where he would almost automatically win anyway..."
A) See previous points. B) His ego will lead him into traps. Try dropping a fuckton of lead balls on him from a height. He will not enjoy this.



But the problem is that even if someone came at Ethan with a baseball bat, he would telekinetically hurl either the bat or the attacker away.

As for dropping lead balls on Ethan, with the amount of time that would take from the amount of distance needed, even with super strength throwing it, he would easily see it and telekinetically make them go elsewhere. Or he would control their density so they would be as harmless as a feather.

You say his "biggest" weakness is still his ego into a trap. But unless that trap is dropping a nuke on him, Ethan will get out unscathed. And even then, since the bomb casing is made of metal, he could just magnetically control it and send it elsewhere
Or dismantle it. Either way, traps are useless against Ethan because he is the definition of a Mary Sue character with no real weaknesses and at least 11 more powers than the strongest other player character.

So OP, please enforce your rule about no Mary Sue perfect, unbeatable characters against Ethan. Because right now, no fight with him is ever an even match and he is flagrantly breaking this RP's rules.
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Postby Quebec-Libre » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:53 pm

I can name you atleast 3 characters who can take down Ethan, including one that actually did.

Shadow Roamer: OP's character. Teleported behind Ethan and jabbed a shadow sword into him. Only reason why Ethan's still alive is that he managed to move just enough to avoid being pierced through his liver and other organs that under no circumstances do you want ripped open.

Rachel: Reasons that he won't win are both power-related and emotional. Look at the RP and you'll get what I mean.

Lee: If the guy goes at Mach 4 and hits him with a carbon-fiber baseball bat, a lead crowbar or, for that matter, a fucking ball he throws at those speeds, my dude's dead. Like, Decapitated.

Also, I think you misunderstood what I meant by Ethanael's Telekinesis. It's a mashup of. Pyrokinesis, Cryokinesis, Density Manipulation, Hydrokinesis, Controlled Magnetism and Seismic Manipulation.

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Postby Flarbinia » Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:02 pm

Quebec-Libre wrote:I can name you atleast 3 characters who can take down Ethan, including one that actually did.

Shadow Roamer: OP's character. Teleported behind Ethan and jabbed a shadow sword into him. Only reason why Ethan's still alive is that he managed to move just enough to avoid being pierced through his liver and other organs that under no circumstances do you want ripped open.

Rachel: Reasons that he won't win are both power-related and emotional. Look at the RP and you'll get what I mean.

Lee: If the guy goes at Mach 4 and hits him with a carbon-fiber baseball bat, a lead crowbar or, for that matter, a fucking ball he throws at those speeds, my dude's dead. Like, Decapitated.

Also, I think you misunderstood what I meant by Ethanael's Telekinesis. It's a mashup of. Pyrokinesis, Cryokinesis, Density Manipulation, Hydrokinesis, Controlled Magnetism and Seismic Manipulation.

You forgot about Gecko Man. He beat your character twice.

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Postby Quebec-Libre » Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:13 pm

Flarbinia wrote:
Quebec-Libre wrote:I can name you atleast 3 characters who can take down Ethan, including one that actually did.

Shadow Roamer: OP's character. Teleported behind Ethan and jabbed a shadow sword into him. Only reason why Ethan's still alive is that he managed to move just enough to avoid being pierced through his liver and other organs that under no circumstances do you want ripped open.

Rachel: Reasons that he won't win are both power-related and emotional. Look at the RP and you'll get what I mean.

Lee: If the guy goes at Mach 4 and hits him with a carbon-fiber baseball bat, a lead crowbar or, for that matter, a fucking ball he throws at those speeds, my dude's dead. Like, Decapitated.

Also, I think you misunderstood what I meant by Ethanael's Telekinesis. It's a mashup of. Pyrokinesis, Cryokinesis, Density Manipulation, Hydrokinesis, Controlled Magnetism and Seismic Manipulation.

You forgot about Gecko Man. He beat your character twice.
Technically that was out of RP. I was mentioning about people that did it in the times that were roleplayed. But yeah, you're right.

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Postby Talchyon » Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:38 pm

Quebec-Libre wrote:I can name you atleast 3 characters who can take down Ethan, including one that actually did.

Shadow Roamer: OP's character. Teleported behind Ethan and jabbed a shadow sword into him. Only reason why Ethan's still alive is that he managed to move just enough to avoid being pierced through his liver and other organs that under no circumstances do you want ripped open.

Rachel: Reasons that he won't win are both power-related and emotional. Look at the RP and you'll get what I mean.

Lee: If the guy goes at Mach 4 and hits him with a carbon-fiber baseball bat, a lead crowbar or, for that matter, a fucking ball he throws at those speeds, my dude's dead. Like, Decapitated.

Also, I think you misunderstood what I meant by Ethanael's Telekinesis. It's a mashup of. Pyrokinesis, Cryokinesis, Density Manipulation, Hydrokinesis, Controlled Magnetism and Seismic Manipulation.


All I can go off of is the vague descriptions you put in your app. Like, you say "telekinesis". I assume you mean "telekinesis".

But from what I see, your character is like a combination of these Marvel characters: Magneto, Jean Grey (before Phoenix), Iceman, Pyro, Hydro Man, Franklin Richards, and maybe Vision with his density manipulation. Whereas any one of these characters would be a formidable fight. And you have them all together at once.

Ethan is a Mary Sue and ridiculously overpowered more so than every other character in this RP.

To make it fair, I would suggest taking out all mind block, mind control, telepathy, density, water, ice and fire control and just sticking with levitation, a limited form of telekinesis, magnetism, and advanced senses. Or selecting 4 of the 13 powers he has and getting rid of the other 9. That would make it fair even if it would make it more challenging for him in a fight. The rest of us are making due with about that amount of powers...

And again, this is not bitterness about my character losing a fight. I could care less. My first character had no combat powers at all and I still liked him. I always like characters with unusual (though still limited to about 4 or at most 5) powers. And that's whether or not they suck in a fight or even die in an RP. That happens sometimes. I move on. So this is not bitterness about Diego losing a fight. It wasn't much of a fight to begin with. But it's more like I see Ethan as flagrantly breaking the rules of the RP and getting away with it.
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Postby Flarbinia » Mon Aug 05, 2019 3:15 pm

Talchyon wrote:
Quebec-Libre wrote:I can name you atleast 3 characters who can take down Ethan, including one that actually did.

Shadow Roamer: OP's character. Teleported behind Ethan and jabbed a shadow sword into him. Only reason why Ethan's still alive is that he managed to move just enough to avoid being pierced through his liver and other organs that under no circumstances do you want ripped open.

Rachel: Reasons that he won't win are both power-related and emotional. Look at the RP and you'll get what I mean.

Lee: If the guy goes at Mach 4 and hits him with a carbon-fiber baseball bat, a lead crowbar or, for that matter, a fucking ball he throws at those speeds, my dude's dead. Like, Decapitated.

Also, I think you misunderstood what I meant by Ethanael's Telekinesis. It's a mashup of. Pyrokinesis, Cryokinesis, Density Manipulation, Hydrokinesis, Controlled Magnetism and Seismic Manipulation.


All I can go off of is the vague descriptions you put in your app. Like, you say "telekinesis". I assume you mean "telekinesis".

But from what I see, your character is like a combination of these Marvel characters: Magneto, Jean Grey (before Phoenix), Iceman, Pyro, Hydro Man, Franklin Richards, and maybe Vision with his density manipulation. Whereas any one of these characters would be a formidable fight. And you have them all together at once.

Ethan is a Mary Sue and ridiculously overpowered more so than every other character in this RP.

To make it fair, I would suggest taking out all mind block, mind control, telepathy, density, water, ice and fire control and just sticking with levitation, a limited form of telekinesis, magnetism, and advanced senses. Or selecting 4 of the 13 powers he has and getting rid of the other 9. That would make it fair even if it would make it more challenging for him in a fight. The rest of us are making due with about that amount of powers...

And again, this is not bitterness about my character losing a fight. I could care less. My first character had no combat powers at all and I still liked him. I always like characters with unusual (though still limited to about 4 or at most 5) powers. And that's whether or not they suck in a fight or even die in an RP. That happens sometimes. I move on. So this is not bitterness about Diego losing a fight. It wasn't much of a fight to begin with. But it's more like I see Ethan as flagrantly breaking the rules of the RP and getting away with it.

I agree that he needs to get rid of the density and elemental control, but getting rid of mind control and telepathy will create a continuity snarl.

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Postby Quebec-Libre » Mon Aug 05, 2019 3:30 pm

Talchyon wrote:
Quebec-Libre wrote:I can name you atleast 3 characters who can take down Ethan, including one that actually did.

Shadow Roamer: OP's character. Teleported behind Ethan and jabbed a shadow sword into him. Only reason why Ethan's still alive is that he managed to move just enough to avoid being pierced through his liver and other organs that under no circumstances do you want ripped open.

Rachel: Reasons that he won't win are both power-related and emotional. Look at the RP and you'll get what I mean.

Lee: If the guy goes at Mach 4 and hits him with a carbon-fiber baseball bat, a lead crowbar or, for that matter, a fucking ball he throws at those speeds, my dude's dead. Like, Decapitated.

Also, I think you misunderstood what I meant by Ethanael's Telekinesis. It's a mashup of. Pyrokinesis, Cryokinesis, Density Manipulation, Hydrokinesis, Controlled Magnetism and Seismic Manipulation.


All I can go off of is the vague descriptions you put in your app. Like, you say "telekinesis". I assume you mean "telekinesis".

But from what I see, your character is like a combination of these Marvel characters: Magneto, Jean Grey (before Phoenix), Iceman, Pyro, Hydro Man, Franklin Richards, and maybe Vision with his density manipulation. Whereas any one of these characters would be a formidable fight. And you have them all together at once.

Ethan is a Mary Sue and ridiculously overpowered more so than every other character in this RP.

To make it fair, I would suggest taking out all mind block, mind control, telepathy, density, water, ice and fire control and just sticking with levitation, a limited form of telekinesis, magnetism, and advanced senses. Or selecting 4 of the 13 powers he has and getting rid of the other 9. That would make it fair even if it would make it more challenging for him in a fight. The rest of us are making due with about that amount of powers...

And again, this is not bitterness about my character losing a fight. I could care less. My first character had no combat powers at all and I still liked him. I always like characters with unusual (though still limited to about 4 or at most 5) powers. And that's whether or not they suck in a fight or even die in an RP. That happens sometimes. I move on. So this is not bitterness about Diego losing a fight. It wasn't much of a fight to begin with. But it's more like I see Ethan as flagrantly breaking the rules of the RP and getting away with it.

Magneto is of course the main inspiration (if you couldn't already tell). I don't see where you got the Jean Grey Vibe (Can't magneto fly and levitate by himself?). I might have been too vague about what I meant by telekinesis, which is honestly why I put the list of powers that were included in it (it's not as much as additional powers than additives that form the telekinetic power itself) in the first place. If we combine all the powers that compose the telekinesis, plus Flight and levitation (one of the same thing in this case), we fall at 7 powers.

I think this is just a big misunderstanding.

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