NATION

PASSWORD

Fall of Olympus {STEAMPUNK/DISEL/BIOPUNK} [OOC/OPEN/NATION]

For all of your non-NationStates related roleplaying needs!

Advertisement

Remove ads

User avatar
The Fascist Waffle Empire
Attaché
 
Posts: 94
Founded: Apr 03, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby The Fascist Waffle Empire » Tue May 07, 2019 10:40 am

Deutschess Kaiserreich wrote:
The Fascist Waffle Empire wrote:[Do Not Remove - FATFUHER]
NS name: The Fascist Waffle Empire
Name of the nation: United Provinces of La Plata
Territory: (Take screenshot of map provided)
Cores: Argentina
Puppets: None

Tell me which part of Argentina.


Everything other than Patagonia. I’m in mobile, so it is difficult for me to get the picture.
Now i know what yall may be thinkin. No, im not a fascist, i'm theocratical monarchy. And no, we are not a country composed of sentient waffles. Although that was one of the original ideas.

User avatar
Sapientia Et Bellum
Diplomat
 
Posts: 879
Founded: Dec 10, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Sapientia Et Bellum » Tue May 07, 2019 10:48 am

[Do Not Remove - HAILFUHER]

NS Name: Sapientia Et Bellum
RP Name: The Socialist Republic Of Gran Colombia (may also include some translations)

Capital: Bogota
Territory: Gran Colombia (Already marked on map)
Cores: Gran Colombia
Population: 15,000,000
Type of Government: Socialist Federal Republic
Government Explaination: The state is split up into six soviet republics with each republic having its own legislature, executive, and judiciary in order to independently from the federal government. The federal government, holding limited power over the six republics, is made up of a legislature of 60 individuals (10 elected from each soviet republic), a federal prime minister serves as the head of government (elected through the legislator), while a founding father of the republic serves as the ultimate head of state/president for life. This system is very similar to the government of Socialist Yugoslavia.
Leader(s): President: Maria Cano, Prime Minister: Jorge Eliécer Gaitán (both individuals are historical people)
Party or Coalition in Power: Revolutionary Party Of Gran Colombia
Executive Title: President
State Ideology: Market Socialism
State Language(s): Spanish
Other Language(s): Portuguese, English, Russian
Ethnicity Breakdown: 80% Latin American, 8% African, 4% Russian, 3% American/European, 4% other
Religion Breakdown: 45% Christian, 35% Atheist/Secular, 20% Other
Flag: https://orig00.deviantart.net/8881/f/20 ... bx5gq1.png
National Anthem: The International [optional]
National Motto: One People, One Ideology
Demonym: Colombians
Map Color: Gold
Technology: Transition between steam and diseal
Machine ideas: Not sure yet (not required)

Public Goals: The expansion of socialism through south america and the development of Colombia
Private Goals: The reconquest of Panama [optional]

Military name: FARC
Military branches: Revolutionary Peoples Army, Revolutionary Peoples Navy, Revolutionary Peoples Air Corp
Total military size: 1,050,000 (7% of total pop)
Breakdown of ground force(s): 930,000 Ground Forces, 300 Light Tanks, 200 AFVs, and 500 Self Propelled Artillery Units[b]
[b]Breakdown of naval force(s): 100,000 navel personnel, Four Portuguese built Destroyers, 100 light gun boats, 50 coastal patrol boats, 5 refurbished German submarines

Breakdown of air force(s): 20,000 air personnel, 50 US built bomber aircraft, 50 US built fighter aircraft, 20 experimental craft
Breakdown of other branch(es): N/A
Extra military information: Will explain further info in the rp (If thats ok with you) (brief history, branch explanation, equipment, skills, etc)

GDP: 2 Trillion
GDP per Capita: 20,000

Currency: Colombian Dollar
Currency and value of currency compared to USD: Its equal to half a US Dollar

Major Domestic Issues: The Development Of Market Socialism, The Establishment Of Worker Owned Factories, The Creation Of A Modern Military
Major Foreign Issues: The Panama Question, The Expansion Of Socialism

History: The nation of Gran Colombia was founded in the year 1822 when Simon Bolivar led a successful rebellion against the Spanish Empire that had once ruled the territory. Bolivar would go about creating the first Latin American republic in the area and as such would be quickly made leader of the young republic. Bolivars death in 1830 would initiate the first rounds of true election among the people of Gran Colombia. The nation would enjoy relative peace and prosperity through the 1800s with The United States becoming a major trading partner of the fledgling nation. This situation allowed for rapid economic expansion through the 1800s which culminated with an industrialization movement in the 1910s, just a few years before the beginning of the war. Colombian politicians at the time embraced industrialization however it wrecked havoc among the laborers of Gran Colombia who now lived in cramped spaces and slaved away for up to 12 hours a day in dark factories. Gran Colombia would remain out of the war which allowed for the industrialization process to continue unhindered however a young woman by the name of Maria Cano would begin to organize various mass strikes throughout the nation and the formation of Unions in the early to late 1920s. In the year 1925, Cano would found the revolutionary socialist party and would begin to call for the violent usurpation of power by the workers. In 1926, Cano and her supporters (including socialist Jorge Eliécer Gaitán) would begin a violent revolution within the capital. Hundreds of thousands of disgruntled workers turned the city into a scene of chaos that eventually resulted in the legitimate government relinquishing power to the socialist party out of fear for their own lifes. Cano and Gaitan would work together over the next ten years to form the socialist state that now occupies what was once the heart of the spanish empire. (Must line up with already established history)

RP sample:
Excerpt From Battle Between Italian Fascist State (me) and The Dzugar Union

A limited number of Ansaldo A.120 Reconnaissance planes would make it to the front line by the time of the street riots that had begun to plague the city of Odessa. These planes would immediately begin flying short missions to locate and report back of troop movements to the west. Three of the five planes would be promptly shot out of the sky by Dzugar fighter planes however the success of the other two planes in reporting the western movements of the enemy army would prove crucial to the war effort. This information would be confirmed by the info gathered during bombing campaigns in the west by Ansaldo A.1 Fighter and Caproni Heavy Bombers. In reaction to this development, Caproni Heavy Bombers would be grounded as fighters began daily interception routes along the western portion of the front where the enemy build up had earlier began in anticipation for an expected land and air campaign in the area. Nearly 30 Ansaldo Fighters had been brought to the front line by hopping from airbase to airbase until they arrived in Ukraine. MG crews, using the FIAT Revelli Model 1914 MG, would begin to quickly set up crude positions throughout the western portion of the front. These positions would be constructed out of basic sandbags and the earth itself which would provide little protection from what was coming in the next few days. Field Gun Crews would slowly move into position within entrenchments of similar construction. Infantryman would also begin setting up Stokes Style Mortars that would be used for the delivery of a weapon that many officers saw as the saving grace of Odessa.

The buzzing of engines could be heard as the bombers and fighters of the Dzugar Union came within miles of the Italian line. Ten of the Ansaldo A.1s would be in the sky ready to counter act the attack aircraft as those on the ground quickly scrambled their planes including the two remaining Ansaldo A.120s whose pilots would introduce a tactic that had yet to be conceived as most would dismiss it as insane. The first ten aircraft, using superior speed, were capable of intercepting the Dzugar aircraft before they reached the frontlines as the other 20 used their speed to quickly gain altitude followed by the A.120s. The presence of unarmed A.120 planes likely disorientated the Dzugar Forces as they set their sights directly on the much slower bombers. In a cataclysmic reaction, the A.120s rammed themselves straight into bombers. This strategy resulted in two of the four Dzugar bombers being turned into bomb themselves as the crashes cause extreme amounts of engine and wing damage to the aircraft. The aircraft would spiral out of control before landing in the middle of no mans land. The A.1s would continue to make fast strafing runs against the bombers however the mobility of the Dzugar planes resulted in numerous A.1s crashing down with the aforementioned bombers. Ultimately, two of the bombers would make it to the front line and would exact carnage upon certain sections which resulted primarily in the deaths of infantrymen due to the inability of the planes of the time to hit small strategic targets with accuracy. The A.1s would pull back upon seeing the manuvers of the rear Dzugar planes who readied themselves for the planned strafing runs. The A.1s would fly towards the planes with reckless abandon as vickers machine guns pounded away. Several Dzugar planes would fall but the majority would succeed at the strafing runs against the trench line resulting in countless more deaths of Italian Infantrymen. The A.1s would continue to combat the Dzugar aircraft as they headed back towards the Dzugar trenches.

Confused and disorganized, the remains of MG and field artillery crews (aided by the substitution of normal infantrymen into those roles), rushed back into position as the cavalry could be seen about a mile out. Officers would blow whistles throughout the line prompting all soldiers to equip standard issue gas masks that would seal their faces and throats from the coming last ditch effort to protect the line. Mortar teams would immediately fire hundreds of small shells (supplemented by howitzer teams further back firing shells of a much higher caliber but with the same payload) within the vicinity of the approaching horseman which would explode and emit a fog of oily gas that would be inhaled by both the rider and the horse. It would likewise bond with the skin of the horses, burning it and causing them to reject their riders as they ran in blind frenzy of pain... sometime even trampling their former riders. The gas would cause the riders themselves immense pain as it stripped their mucous membrane and caused internal bleeding. The riders faces would burn as the oil attached itself to their skin, causing further intense pain. To add insult to injury, MG teams would blindly fire a hail of bullets into the gas killing both horse and man as they panicked for breathable air. The advancing Dzugar infantry, who moved behind the cavalry, would realize a similar fate as the gas from heavier artillery shells bounded the no mans land. The MG crews would halt as Sturmtrooper divisions advanced into the no mans land under cover of the lingering gas and the constant barrage of it on the opposing side. Using M1918 SMGs, the Sturmtroopers would kill any Persian found alive before rushing back to the trenches with gruesome trophies such as the dismembered ears and fingers of the Dzugar. The line had been held but at what cost?

Template by Arvenia
Last edited by Sapientia Et Bellum on Tue May 07, 2019 12:04 pm, edited 3 times in total.
Il Duce Gianfranco Fini
"We are fascists, the heirs of fascism, the fascism of the year 2000" - Il Duce Gianfranco Fini

Economics Major (My ideals swing wildly between the parties occasionally due to my current education), Pro Interventionism, Pro NATO, Anti UN, Capitalist, Anti Russia, Anti China (Tariffs are still dumb though), and pro libertarian equality
In The Long Run, We Are All Dead

User avatar
Barapam
Minister
 
Posts: 2239
Founded: Aug 04, 2014
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Barapam » Tue May 07, 2019 11:09 am

I'm kinda torn atm, while I have plans for Sweden, I think I might not have time to fully commit to this rp. So I think I'll cancel my reservation and just lurk around.
"nah man the path to true freedom is tsarist national bolshevik posadist monarchism with Japanese influence as is practised in Barapam." - Vladilan

User avatar
Valtrona
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 434
Founded: Nov 29, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Valtrona » Tue May 07, 2019 11:22 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Valtrona wrote:Why did it fall in our timeline? When you reflect on that, then the same applies to why the Russian Empire would fall.

Fine. What about the various states around Russia? How open are those? What happened with the Ottomans, the Balkans, Greece?

The Ottomans are stable at the moment, but surrounded by hostile neighbors who want their land and may have support from more powerful nations. The Balkans are just the Balkans, just crazy place. Greece have its desires on seizing Ottoman and Italian land, and would probably ally with the side going against the Germans and/or Italians.

User avatar
Valtrona
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 434
Founded: Nov 29, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Valtrona » Tue May 07, 2019 11:22 am

Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:
[Do Not Remove - HAILFUHER]

NS Name: Sapientia Et Bellum
RP Name: The Socialist Republic Of Gran Colombia (may also include some translations)

Capital: Bogota
Territory: Gran Colombia (Already marked on map)
Cores: Gran Colombia
Population: 15,000,000
Type of Government: Socialist Federal Republic
Government Explaination: The state is split up into six soviet republics with each republic having its own legislature, executive, and judiciary in order to independently from the federal government. The federal government, holding limited power over the six republics, is made up of a legislature of 60 individuals (10 elected from each soviet republic), a federal prime minister serves as the head of government (elected through the legislator), while a founding father of the republic serves as the ultimate head of state/president for life. This system is very similar to the government of Socialist Yugoslavia.
Leader(s): President: Maria Cano, Prime Minister: Jorge Eliécer Gaitán (both individuals are historical people)
Party or Coalition in Power: Revolutionary Party Of Gran Colombia
Executive Title: President
State Ideology: Market Socialism
State Language(s): Spanish
Other Language(s): Portuguese, English, Russian
Ethnicity Breakdown: 80% Latin American, 8% African, 4% Russian, 3% American/European, 4% other
Religion Breakdown: 45% Christian, 35% Atheist/Secular, 20% Other
Flag: https://orig00.deviantart.net/8881/f/20 ... bx5gq1.png
National Anthem: The International [optional]
National Motto: One People, One Ideology
Demonym: Colombians
Map Color: Gold
Technology: Transition between steam and diseal
Machine ideas: Not sure yet (not required)

Public Goals: The expansion of socialism through south america and the development of Colombia
Private Goals: The reconquest of Panama [optional]

Military name: FARC
Military branches: Revolutionary Peoples Army, Revolutionary Peoples Navy, Revolutionary Peoples Air Corp
Total military size: 1,050,000 (7% of total pop)
Breakdown of ground force(s):
Breakdown of naval force(s):
Breakdown of air force(s):
Breakdown of other branch(es):
Extra military information: (brief history, branch explanation, equipment, skills, etc)

GDP:
GDP per Capita:

Currency: Colombian Dollar
Currency and value of currency compared to USD:

Major Domestic Issues: The Development Of Market Socialism, The Establishment Of Worker Owned Factories, The Creation Of A Modern Military
Major Foreign Issues: The Panama Question, The Expansion Of Socialism

History: (Must line up with already established history)

RP sample:
Template by Arvenia


WIP

Looking good so far!

User avatar
Sapientia Et Bellum
Diplomat
 
Posts: 879
Founded: Dec 10, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Sapientia Et Bellum » Tue May 07, 2019 12:04 pm

Done
Il Duce Gianfranco Fini
"We are fascists, the heirs of fascism, the fascism of the year 2000" - Il Duce Gianfranco Fini

Economics Major (My ideals swing wildly between the parties occasionally due to my current education), Pro Interventionism, Pro NATO, Anti UN, Capitalist, Anti Russia, Anti China (Tariffs are still dumb though), and pro libertarian equality
In The Long Run, We Are All Dead

User avatar
Sapientia Et Bellum
Diplomat
 
Posts: 879
Founded: Dec 10, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Sapientia Et Bellum » Tue May 07, 2019 12:14 pm

Maria Cano
Image
Jorge Eliecer Gaitan
Image
Il Duce Gianfranco Fini
"We are fascists, the heirs of fascism, the fascism of the year 2000" - Il Duce Gianfranco Fini

Economics Major (My ideals swing wildly between the parties occasionally due to my current education), Pro Interventionism, Pro NATO, Anti UN, Capitalist, Anti Russia, Anti China (Tariffs are still dumb though), and pro libertarian equality
In The Long Run, We Are All Dead

User avatar
Valtrona
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 434
Founded: Nov 29, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Valtrona » Tue May 07, 2019 5:35 pm

The Fascist Waffle Empire wrote:
Deutschess Kaiserreich wrote:
Tell me which part of Argentina.


Everything other than Patagonia. I’m in mobile, so it is difficult for me to get the picture.

You mean the northern portion of Argentina? In the light blue?

User avatar
Deutschess Kaiserreich
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1484
Founded: Sep 23, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Deutschess Kaiserreich » Tue May 07, 2019 5:57 pm

Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:
[Do Not Remove - HAILFUHER]

NS Name: Sapientia Et Bellum
RP Name: The Socialist Republic Of Gran Colombia (may also include some translations)

Accepted
The Deutsches Kaiserreich
The Kaiserriech is an alternative history timeline where Germany won the First Weltkreig. Currently, the Kaiserriech is a Federal Monarchy. Our current leader is Victoria Louise Adelheid Mathilde Charlotte the Second. For more information.
Socialist Minecraft Server wrote:Im thinking about what im thinking about what im thinking
Ethnic Female German living in [REDACTED] (Not comfortable with revealing my identity).

Proud Monarch of the ♔♚IMPERION COALITION♚♔
Retconning lots of lore so expect some non-sensical parts in my factbooks.

User avatar
Sapientia Et Bellum
Diplomat
 
Posts: 879
Founded: Dec 10, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Sapientia Et Bellum » Tue May 07, 2019 6:05 pm

Ought to make a discord server for the rp, more intuitive than this ooc thread for discussion purposes

Also when can I expect an IC to be made
Last edited by Sapientia Et Bellum on Tue May 07, 2019 6:06 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Il Duce Gianfranco Fini
"We are fascists, the heirs of fascism, the fascism of the year 2000" - Il Duce Gianfranco Fini

Economics Major (My ideals swing wildly between the parties occasionally due to my current education), Pro Interventionism, Pro NATO, Anti UN, Capitalist, Anti Russia, Anti China (Tariffs are still dumb though), and pro libertarian equality
In The Long Run, We Are All Dead

User avatar
The Fascist Waffle Empire
Attaché
 
Posts: 94
Founded: Apr 03, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby The Fascist Waffle Empire » Tue May 07, 2019 6:55 pm

Valtrona wrote:
The Fascist Waffle Empire wrote:
Everything other than Patagonia. I’m in mobile, so it is difficult for me to get the picture.

You mean the northern portion of Argentina? In the light blue?


Ye
Now i know what yall may be thinkin. No, im not a fascist, i'm theocratical monarchy. And no, we are not a country composed of sentient waffles. Although that was one of the original ideas.

User avatar
The Bio-Regional Cooperative of States
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 385
Founded: Dec 06, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby The Bio-Regional Cooperative of States » Tue May 07, 2019 8:37 pm

Tag, I'm interested

User avatar
Deutschess Kaiserreich
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1484
Founded: Sep 23, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Deutschess Kaiserreich » Tue May 07, 2019 9:16 pm

Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:Ought to make a discord server for the rp, more intuitive than this ooc thread for discussion purposes

Also when can I expect an IC to be made

I will start when I get enough players. As for the discord I am working on it but I won't be there online as my school blocks discord so I'm really no sure.
The Deutsches Kaiserreich
The Kaiserriech is an alternative history timeline where Germany won the First Weltkreig. Currently, the Kaiserriech is a Federal Monarchy. Our current leader is Victoria Louise Adelheid Mathilde Charlotte the Second. For more information.
Socialist Minecraft Server wrote:Im thinking about what im thinking about what im thinking
Ethnic Female German living in [REDACTED] (Not comfortable with revealing my identity).

Proud Monarch of the ♔♚IMPERION COALITION♚♔
Retconning lots of lore so expect some non-sensical parts in my factbooks.

User avatar
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 21995
Founded: Feb 20, 2012
Democratic Socialists

Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Wed May 08, 2019 7:55 am

I'd advise against a discord. It breeds activity among a small number of players but leaves out the rest, and in an RP like this you need player volume as muxh as activity.
The name's James. James Usari. Well, my name is not actually James Usari, so don't bother actually looking it up, but it'll do for now.
Lack of a real name means compensation through a real face. My debt is settled
Part-time Kebab tycoon in Glasgow.

User avatar
Deutschess Kaiserreich
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1484
Founded: Sep 23, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Deutschess Kaiserreich » Wed May 08, 2019 8:07 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:I'd advise against a discord. It breeds activity among a small number of players but leaves out the rest, and in an RP like this you need player volume as muxh as activity.

I have to agree with you. The main problem I often find is that only one conversation can occur at the same time but the benefits outweigh the cost. The only discord server I have to me and my co-ops.
The Deutsches Kaiserreich
The Kaiserriech is an alternative history timeline where Germany won the First Weltkreig. Currently, the Kaiserriech is a Federal Monarchy. Our current leader is Victoria Louise Adelheid Mathilde Charlotte the Second. For more information.
Socialist Minecraft Server wrote:Im thinking about what im thinking about what im thinking
Ethnic Female German living in [REDACTED] (Not comfortable with revealing my identity).

Proud Monarch of the ♔♚IMPERION COALITION♚♔
Retconning lots of lore so expect some non-sensical parts in my factbooks.

User avatar
The Bio-Regional Cooperative of States
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 385
Founded: Dec 06, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby The Bio-Regional Cooperative of States » Wed May 08, 2019 9:53 am

[Do Not Remove - FATFUHER]
NS name: The Bio-Regional Cooperative of States
Name of the nation: Brazilian Social Collective
Territory: Cannot get a screenshot as I am on mobile, but Brazil as a whole & Uruguay would be my claim
Cores: OTL Brazilian Territory
Puppets: Uruguay

User avatar
Nea Byzantia
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5185
Founded: Jun 03, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Nea Byzantia » Wed May 08, 2019 10:56 am

Valtrona wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:Fine. What about the various states around Russia? How open are those? What happened with the Ottomans, the Balkans, Greece?

The Ottomans are stable at the moment, but surrounded by hostile neighbors who want their land and may have support from more powerful nations. The Balkans are just the Balkans, just crazy place. Greece have its desires on seizing Ottoman and Italian land, and would probably ally with the side going against the Germans and/or Italians.

Wait, so you're telling me that its "impossible" that the Russian Tsarist Government could've survived; but that somehow the Ottomans - the Sick Man of Europe is stable in 1936? That makes no sense.

Nea Byzantia wrote:
[Do Not Remove - HAILFUHER]

NS Name: Nea Byzantia
RP Name: Russian Empire

Capital: Moscow
Territory: Russia
Cores: Russia
Population: 68 million
Type of Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Government Explaination: (especially in case of explaining how the government works)
Leader(s): Tsar Mikhail II Romanov (1917 AD - Present)


Party or Coalition in Power: N/A
Executive Title: Emperor
State Ideology: Zemstvoism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zemstvo)
State Language(s): Russian
Other Language(s): Tatar, Chechnyan,
Ethnicity Breakdown: WIP
Religion Breakdown: WIP
Flag:
National Anthem: [optional]
National Motto:
Demonym: Russian
Map Color: Green
Technology: Dieselpunk
Machine ideas: (not required)

Public Goals: Restore the territory of the Russian Empire
Private Goals: [optional]

Military name:
Military branches: (army, navy, air force, marine corps, gendarmerie, etc)
Total military size:
Breakdown of ground force(s):
Breakdown of naval force(s):
Breakdown of air force(s):
Breakdown of other branch(es):
Extra military information: (brief history, branch explanation, equipment, skills, etc)

GDP:
GDP per Capita:

Currency: Ruble
Currency and value of currency compared to USD:

Major Domestic Issues: Poverty, Insurrection
Major Foreign Issues: Separatist States

History: With Russia's disastrous performance in World War I, and with the Bolshevik uprising in late 1916, the isolated and incompetent Tsar Nicholas II abdicated the throne in March 1917, in favor of his younger brother, Grand Duke Mikhail Romanov. Mikhail was a dutiful man, a relatively well-liked commander and a patriot who loved Russia. He willingly took upon himself the burdens of government, crowning himself Tsar Mikhail II Romanov, in April 1917, in Volgagrad; and rallied the disparate groups of the White Movement to oppose the Reds. The Russian Civil War was a time of great chaos, and as Mikhail was completely devoted to wiping out the Bolsheviks (especially after they assasinated the ex-Tsar, Nicholas II and his entire immediate family), various regions in Eastern Europe (Ukraine, Poland, the Baltic Republics, Finland) and Central Asia seceded from Russian territory. As Russia's forces were spread relatively thin, the separatists were able to win independence quite easily. In 1920, Tsar Mikhail dispatched Roman Von Ungern-Sternberg to Mongolia to clear the region and the Far East of Bolsheviks. In 1922, with the Bolsheviks driven from Western Russia, Tsar Mikhail decided to move the Imperial Capital from Petrograd to Moscow. This was a clearly symbolic move, as Mikhail was interested in undoing the Petrine Autocracy of Peter the Great, and moving to a more traditional idea of ""Old Russia". He recognized the election of Karensky as President, and allowed the Duma to also establish itself in Moscow. A Constitution was signed in 1923, which allowed the Tsar to maintain power over the Executive Branch of Government, but gave Legislative authority to the Duma and to Karensky. Furthermore, Tsar Mikhail II revived the liberal policies of his grandfather, the late Tsar Alexander II; allowing for greater local self-government, and autonomy, for example regional governors were to be appointed by the Tsar and the Duma in Moscow, but needed to be approved by a local referendum.

These Constitutionalist moves enraged some of the more hardliner Monarchist elements which Mikhail had previous dispatched to the Far East to deal with remaining Bolshevik cells. In 1924, Von Ungern-Sternberg declared himself ruler of Mongolia and seceded from the Russian Empire, as did Admiral Aleksandr Kolchak in Kamtchaka. The Tsar seemed relatively unperturbed by this sour developments in the Far East. He seemed much more concerned about rebuilding destroyed infrastructure in the West and in Siberia, and ensuring the continuation of agricultural and resource production. In 1927, while celebrating the 10th anniversary of his reign, in the Kremlin Palace, President Karensky and a group of Liberal politicians attempted to assassinate Tsar Mikhail II. The conspiracy was foiled, however, and Karensky and the other conspirators were executed by firing squad. Tsar Mikhail had all the Duma members questioned and those believed to be "part of the conspiracy"were also executed. Serious purges of the Government, Military and Bureaucratic apparatuses followed from 1927 - 1929; leading to the execution of the Liberal, Democratic element within the former White Movement. Tsar Mikhail was thus able to concentrate more power in his hands. However, he was careful not to trample on the rights given to the peasants and average citizens in the Constitution; but only targeted elites and politicians; for corruption, treason and other crimes. Meanwhile, the War in the East continued.

In the realm of Foreign Policy, Tsar Mikhail began to open relations with former rivals and enemies; in 1930, he reopened relations with Imperial Germany, and strengthened diplomatic ties with Italy and Japan, as well. Tsar Mikhail also maintained good relations with the traditional Balkans client-states; such as Serbia, Greece, Romania, and Bulgaria. Hist stance towards Poland, Ukraine, the Baltic States and Finland, were hardly as gracious, however; and there was much talk of the Tsar wanting to re-annex his former territories. However, other military ventures, tied his hands at the moment.

WIP

RP sample:
Template by Arvenia


And what's implausible about the idea of Nicholas II abdicating the throne, or even getting killed by the Bolsheviks in early 1917, and then his younger brother, Mikhail, who was elsewhere in the Empire at the time, crowning himself Tsar and rallying the anti-Bolshevik forces behind him? In real life, Nicholas abdicated in favor of his brother Mikhail; but Mikhail refused to take the Throne; and after Nicholas and his immediate family were killed, and Mikhail too, there really was no viable Tsar. But if Mikhail had agreed and become Tsar; the crisis was still small enough that the anti-Bolshevik forces could've been rallied and crushed the Bolsheviks. Would the Russian Empire still be in chaos? Absolutely (arguably in this timeline it still is); but the Russian Empire being in chaos with various states claiming power, doesn't mean the Tsarist Government isn't around; it certainly doesn't invalidate the proposed app above, does it?

User avatar
Valtrona
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 434
Founded: Nov 29, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Valtrona » Wed May 08, 2019 11:27 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Valtrona wrote:The Ottomans are stable at the moment, but surrounded by hostile neighbors who want their land and may have support from more powerful nations. The Balkans are just the Balkans, just crazy place. Greece have its desires on seizing Ottoman and Italian land, and would probably ally with the side going against the Germans and/or Italians.

Wait, so you're telling me that its "impossible" that the Russian Tsarist Government could've survived; but that somehow the Ottomans - the Sick Man of Europe is stable in 1936? That makes no sense.

And what's implausible about the idea of Nicholas II abdicating the throne, or even getting killed by the Bolsheviks in early 1917, and then his younger brother, Mikhail, who was elsewhere in the Empire at the time, crowning himself Tsar and rallying the anti-Bolshevik forces behind him? In real life, Nicholas abdicated in favor of his brother Mikhail; but Mikhail refused to take the Throne; and after Nicholas and his immediate family were killed, and Mikhail too, there really was no viable Tsar. But if Mikhail had agreed and become Tsar; the crisis was still small enough that the anti-Bolshevik forces could've been rallied and crushed the Bolsheviks. Would the Russian Empire still be in chaos? Absolutely (arguably in this timeline it still is); but the Russian Empire being in chaos with various states claiming power, doesn't mean the Tsarist Government isn't around; it certainly doesn't invalidate the proposed app above, does it?


Well it was established, arguably stupid but we’re keeping it for simplicity, that the Ottomans were a much stronger force. If you read the history, you’d see that they done very well for themselves. They fought and won against both the British in Arabia and the Russians in the Caucasus rather quickly. How? Ask the old Ottoman player for that. And as to why they’re still around, it’s because they’ve attempted to reform themselves to stabilize what lands they have. Not to say their strong or anything, but not weak enough to completely be devastated. Now, the official history has Russia devolving into a civil war. With that, why would the citizens of Russia support a government that wants to restore the Tsar, the brutal dictator, than a group that may want to bring democracy to the people, or one that wants to bring about communism to improve the people’s welfare. This is why the Tsar didn’t take power IOTL. Now, even if Mikhail became the next Tsar, that still doesn’t mean that support for the Tsardom in Russia would of increased enough for it to convince people to restore it. The Civil War as stated in the history lasts a few years and is rather bloody. Taken that, there’s no way I could see the Tsardom remaining. Now, a military dictatorship is a possibility, but not a Tsarist Regime.
Last edited by Valtrona on Wed May 08, 2019 11:31 am, edited 2 times in total.

User avatar
Nea Byzantia
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5185
Founded: Jun 03, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Nea Byzantia » Wed May 08, 2019 11:42 am

Valtrona wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:Wait, so you're telling me that its "impossible" that the Russian Tsarist Government could've survived; but that somehow the Ottomans - the Sick Man of Europe is stable in 1936? That makes no sense.

And what's implausible about the idea of Nicholas II abdicating the throne, or even getting killed by the Bolsheviks in early 1917, and then his younger brother, Mikhail, who was elsewhere in the Empire at the time, crowning himself Tsar and rallying the anti-Bolshevik forces behind him? In real life, Nicholas abdicated in favor of his brother Mikhail; but Mikhail refused to take the Throne; and after Nicholas and his immediate family were killed, and Mikhail too, there really was no viable Tsar. But if Mikhail had agreed and become Tsar; the crisis was still small enough that the anti-Bolshevik forces could've been rallied and crushed the Bolsheviks. Would the Russian Empire still be in chaos? Absolutely (arguably in this timeline it still is); but the Russian Empire being in chaos with various states claiming power, doesn't mean the Tsarist Government isn't around; it certainly doesn't invalidate the proposed app above, does it?


Well it was established, arguably stupid but we’re keeping it for simplicity, that the Ottomans were a much stronger force. If you read the history, you’d see that they done very well for themselves. They fought and won against both the British in Arabia and the Russians in the Caucasus rather quickly. How? Ask the old Ottoman player for that. And as to why they’re still around, it’s because they’ve attempted to reform themselves to stabilize what lands they have. Not to say their strong or anything, but not weak enough to completely be devastated. Now, the official history has Russia devolving into a civil war. With that, why would the citizens of Russia support a government that wants to restore the Tsar, the brutal dictator, than a group that may want to bring democracy to the people, or one that wants to bring about communism to improve the people’s welfare. This is why the Tsar didn’t take power IOTL. Now, even if Mikhail became the next Tsar, that still doesn’t mean that support for the Tsardom in Russia would of increased enough for it to convince people to restore it. The Civil War as stated in the history lasts a few years and is rather bloody. Taken that, there’s no way I could see the Tsardom remaining. Now, a military dictatorship is a possibility, but not a Tsarist Regime.

Fair enough.

User avatar
Labstoska
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1441
Founded: Apr 22, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Labstoska » Wed May 08, 2019 12:35 pm

Valtrona wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:Wait, so you're telling me that its "impossible" that the Russian Tsarist Government could've survived; but that somehow the Ottomans - the Sick Man of Europe is stable in 1936? That makes no sense.

And what's implausible about the idea of Nicholas II abdicating the throne, or even getting killed by the Bolsheviks in early 1917, and then his younger brother, Mikhail, who was elsewhere in the Empire at the time, crowning himself Tsar and rallying the anti-Bolshevik forces behind him? In real life, Nicholas abdicated in favor of his brother Mikhail; but Mikhail refused to take the Throne; and after Nicholas and his immediate family were killed, and Mikhail too, there really was no viable Tsar. But if Mikhail had agreed and become Tsar; the crisis was still small enough that the anti-Bolshevik forces could've been rallied and crushed the Bolsheviks. Would the Russian Empire still be in chaos? Absolutely (arguably in this timeline it still is); but the Russian Empire being in chaos with various states claiming power, doesn't mean the Tsarist Government isn't around; it certainly doesn't invalidate the proposed app above, does it?


Well it was established, arguably stupid but we’re keeping it for simplicity, that the Ottomans were a much stronger force. If you read the history, you’d see that they done very well for themselves. They fought and won against both the British in Arabia and the Russians in the Caucasus rather quickly. How? Ask the old Ottoman player for that. And as to why they’re still around, it’s because they’ve attempted to reform themselves to stabilize what lands they have. Not to say their strong or anything, but not weak enough to completely be devastated. Now, the official history has Russia devolving into a civil war. With that, why would the citizens of Russia support a government that wants to restore the Tsar, the brutal dictator, than a group that may want to bring democracy to the people, or one that wants to bring about communism to improve the people’s welfare. This is why the Tsar didn’t take power IOTL. Now, even if Mikhail became the next Tsar, that still doesn’t mean that support for the Tsardom in Russia would of increased enough for it to convince people to restore it. The Civil War as stated in the history lasts a few years and is rather bloody. Taken that, there’s no way I could see the Tsardom remaining. Now, a military dictatorship is a possibility, but not a Tsarist Regime.

Well technically the old Ottoman player never beat the Entente in fact in the old IC they had just surrendered

User avatar
Valtrona
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 434
Founded: Nov 29, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Valtrona » Wed May 08, 2019 1:03 pm

Labstoska wrote:
Valtrona wrote:
Well it was established, arguably stupid but we’re keeping it for simplicity, that the Ottomans were a much stronger force. If you read the history, you’d see that they done very well for themselves. They fought and won against both the British in Arabia and the Russians in the Caucasus rather quickly. How? Ask the old Ottoman player for that. And as to why they’re still around, it’s because they’ve attempted to reform themselves to stabilize what lands they have. Not to say their strong or anything, but not weak enough to completely be devastated. Now, the official history has Russia devolving into a civil war. With that, why would the citizens of Russia support a government that wants to restore the Tsar, the brutal dictator, than a group that may want to bring democracy to the people, or one that wants to bring about communism to improve the people’s welfare. This is why the Tsar didn’t take power IOTL. Now, even if Mikhail became the next Tsar, that still doesn’t mean that support for the Tsardom in Russia would of increased enough for it to convince people to restore it. The Civil War as stated in the history lasts a few years and is rather bloody. Taken that, there’s no way I could see the Tsardom remaining. Now, a military dictatorship is a possibility, but not a Tsarist Regime.

Well technically the old Ottoman player never beat the Entente in fact in the old IC they had just surrendered

In this scenario, they beat the Entente with the aid of the Central Powers. Much of the old IC was retconned to make a better sequel.

User avatar
The Fascist Waffle Empire
Attaché
 
Posts: 94
Founded: Apr 03, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby The Fascist Waffle Empire » Wed May 08, 2019 6:49 pm

note: ima just rewrite my reservation, now that I have a computer

[Do Not Remove - FATFUHER]
NS name: The Fascist Waffle Empire
Name of the nation: Argentine Federation
Territory: https://imgur.com/Iq6FJiy
Cores: Argentina
Puppets: Paraguay
Now i know what yall may be thinkin. No, im not a fascist, i'm theocratical monarchy. And no, we are not a country composed of sentient waffles. Although that was one of the original ideas.

User avatar
Deutschess Kaiserreich
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1484
Founded: Sep 23, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Deutschess Kaiserreich » Wed May 08, 2019 6:52 pm

The Fascist Waffle Empire wrote:note: ima just rewrite my reservation, now that I have a computer

[Do Not Remove - FATFUHER]
NS name: The Fascist Waffle Empire
Name of the nation: Argentine Federation
Territory: https://imgur.com/Iq6FJiy
Cores: Argentina
Puppets: Paraguay

Accepted
The Deutsches Kaiserreich
The Kaiserriech is an alternative history timeline where Germany won the First Weltkreig. Currently, the Kaiserriech is a Federal Monarchy. Our current leader is Victoria Louise Adelheid Mathilde Charlotte the Second. For more information.
Socialist Minecraft Server wrote:Im thinking about what im thinking about what im thinking
Ethnic Female German living in [REDACTED] (Not comfortable with revealing my identity).

Proud Monarch of the ♔♚IMPERION COALITION♚♔
Retconning lots of lore so expect some non-sensical parts in my factbooks.

User avatar
Sapientia Et Bellum
Diplomat
 
Posts: 879
Founded: Dec 10, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Sapientia Et Bellum » Wed May 08, 2019 7:03 pm

We need to get some players in here bruh
Il Duce Gianfranco Fini
"We are fascists, the heirs of fascism, the fascism of the year 2000" - Il Duce Gianfranco Fini

Economics Major (My ideals swing wildly between the parties occasionally due to my current education), Pro Interventionism, Pro NATO, Anti UN, Capitalist, Anti Russia, Anti China (Tariffs are still dumb though), and pro libertarian equality
In The Long Run, We Are All Dead

User avatar
Deutschess Kaiserreich
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1484
Founded: Sep 23, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Deutschess Kaiserreich » Wed May 08, 2019 7:07 pm

Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:We need to get some players in here bruh

We already have three nations. I am writing the IC already. I need at least seven or eight before I start. Might take a week or two though.
The Deutsches Kaiserreich
The Kaiserriech is an alternative history timeline where Germany won the First Weltkreig. Currently, the Kaiserriech is a Federal Monarchy. Our current leader is Victoria Louise Adelheid Mathilde Charlotte the Second. For more information.
Socialist Minecraft Server wrote:Im thinking about what im thinking about what im thinking
Ethnic Female German living in [REDACTED] (Not comfortable with revealing my identity).

Proud Monarch of the ♔♚IMPERION COALITION♚♔
Retconning lots of lore so expect some non-sensical parts in my factbooks.

PreviousNext

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to Portal to the Multiverse

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Republics of the Solar Union, Rudaslavia

Advertisement

Remove ads