Fall of Olympus {STEAMPUNK/DISEL/BIOPUNK} [OOC/OPEN/NATION]

[Valtrona]

Both of these websites are quite sketchy and the graph you used shows the communist coalition parties with over 60% of the vote. But those aside, going back to your former argument. If communism died in Russia, then how is it possible that a communist state arose in east Russia? Furthermore the dominant parties in the communist coalition (The Left SR - Menshevik - Social Revolutionaries Block is literally the party that rose to power in my Russia). So the mot popular party in Russia is in power in my country, and according to you that's not enough for me to do what again? Unite Russia, even though the vast majority of people who supposedly split off are part of my ethnic group and believe strongly in my political ideology?

Also not to mention, Russia's current opposition party is the Russian Communist Party, and its the second most popular party in Russia, disproving your belief that it was because Russian's were forced to or because it was an alternative to the Russian Tsardom.

Look, I’m in no mood to argue with someone who’s unwilling to compromise. You used Wikipedia as a reference for crying out loud. I provided you with valid sourcing, and you ignored it like I expected of you to do. Besides, the Mensheviks and Bolsheviks both had distinct ways of governing Russia that contradicted one another. They despised one another. Communism and Socialism are two distinct things. They can’t be compared even though they are similar in nature. You’re going on a route down to Communism, which is something that the Russian populace wouldn’t like. Hell, your leader apparently was a former member of the Bolsheviks. Just as a note, I’m not saying that there will be a Communist state in Siberia 100%, nothing is confirmed yet. What I am saying is that the remnants of the Bolsheviks would of fled to the Japanese Transmur state, building up their support to one day rise up and create a Communist state. So it could be a possibility. Also, using modern day Russia as an example is a poor choice. Russia had been Communist for decades at that point, and you’d better expect a decent amount of support for Communism IRL Russia. That entire argument doesn’t make any logical sense.

Honestly, you aren’t getting accepted by me regardless of the horrid reasoning you can come up with. Yet again, where’s your credible sources? I had sources and even a common person can look it up and see the results clearly. So I’m going to shoot down any application relating to a Communist Russia and I’ll convince the OP to do the same. So I’m going to give up responding to you since you are unwilling to compromise and seem to just try and demean me when I have actual facts and reasoning on my side.

[Duestchstien]

Both of these websites are quite sketchy and the graph you used shows the communist coalition parties with over 60% of the vote. But those aside, going back to your former argument. If communism died in Russia, then how is it possible that a communist state arose in east Russia? Furthermore the dominant parties in the communist coalition (The Left SR - Menshevik - Social Revolutionaries Block is literally the party that rose to power in my Russia). So the mot popular party in Russia is in power in my country, and according to you that's not enough for me to do what again? Unite Russia, even though the vast majority of people who supposedly split off are part of my ethnic group and believe strongly in my political ideology?

Also not to mention, Russia's current opposition party is the Russian Communist Party, and its the second most popular party in Russia, disproving your belief that it was because Russian's were forced to or because it was an alternative to the Russian Tsardom.

Look, I’m in no mood to argue with someone who’s unwilling to compromise. You used Wikipedia as a reference for crying out loud. I provided you with valid sourcing, and you ignored it like I expected of you to do. Besides, the Mensheviks and Bolsheviks both had distinct ways of governing Russia that contradicted one another. They despised one another. Communism and Socialism are two distinct things. They can’t be compared even though they are similar in nature. You’re going on a route down to Communism, which is something that the Russian populace wouldn’t like. Hell, your leader apparently was a former member of the Bolsheviks. Just as a note, I’m not saying that there will be a Communist state in Siberia 100%, nothing is confirmed yet. What I am saying is that the remnants of the Bolsheviks would of fled to the Japanese Transmur state, building up their support to one day rise up and create a Communist state. So it could be a possibility. Also, using modern day Russia as an example is a poor choice. Russia had been Communist for decades at that point, and you’d better expect a decent amount of support for Communism IRL Russia. That entire argument doesn’t make any logical sense.

Honestly, you aren’t getting accepted by me regardless of the horrid reasoning you can come up with. Yet again, where’s your credible sources? I had sources and even a common person can look it up and see the results clearly. So I’m going to shoot down any application relating to a Communist Russia and I’ll convince the OP to do the same. So I’m going to give up responding to you since you are unwilling to compromise and seem to just try and demean me when I have actual facts and reasoning on my side.

Ok, I'm just gonna be real tho, I'm pretty tired of this. I'll just wait for the OP, if he wants me to I'll leave, and my views of you and him will forever be ruined. I'll make sure to see to it that I don't cross paths with you again on that circumstance, but until the OP settles this situation I'll just be lingering around here.

[Valtrona]

Ok, I'm just gonna be real tho, I'm pretty tired of this. I'll just wait for the OP, if he wants me to I'll leave, and my views of you and him will forever be ruined. I'll make sure to see to it that I don't cross paths with you again on that circumstance, but until the OP settles this situation I'll just be lingering around here.

I was tired of this a long time ago. I’ve notified the OP and he’ll look at this at some point. It’ll be a while though, he’s got RL things to do as well all do. I feel like you views of us are already ruined, but that doesn’t matter. My view of you is an uncompromising person who demeans his fellow people and wants to get his way regardless. You’re a hypocrite and a toxic person who frankly I don’t want in this RP. Regardless, we’ll just wait and see.

[Emazia]

I thought it would be common sense that Russia wouldn’t support a Communist state, and that even during the Civil War most of Russia either didn’t support it or did it cause it was the “best” alternative or cause they had to. Most people wouldn’t of actually believed in the ideals of Bolshevism. An election was actually held in Russia in 1918, where the Bolsheviks only got around 24% of the popular vote.

Sources:
http://www.jewhistory.ort.spb.ru/eng/ma ... hp?id=1374
https://alphahistory.com/russianrevolut ... -assembly/

And here’s an image if you can’t read facts:

Of course, you don’t have to believe me, but you aren’t getting accepted as a Communist nation for whatever bullshit reason you come up with. The history clearly states that Communism in Russia was defeated and most of their leaders would of been killed or fled to another nation. If you can’t accept this fact then you can just leave and don’t apply, cause I’m not allowing for a Communist Russia to be formed. I’m the co-op and I’m putting my foot down right here and now.

Both of these websites are quite sketchy and the graph you used shows the communist coalition parties with over 60% of the vote. But those aside, going back to your former argument. If communism died in Russia, then how is it possible that a communist state arose in east Russia? Furthermore the dominant parties in the communist coalition (The Left SR - Menshevik - Social Revolutionaries Block is literally the party that rose to power in my Russia). So the mot popular party in Russia is in power in my country, and according to you that's not enough for me to do what again? Unite Russia, even though the vast majority of people who supposedly split off are part of my ethnic group and believe strongly in my political ideology?

Also not to mention, Russia's current opposition party is the Russian Communist Party, and its the second most popular party in Russia, disproving your belief that it was because Russian's were forced to or because it was an alternative to the Russian Tsardom.

The RCP had 23-25% of the vote last election, you bonker. So you're only proving his point with it. Also, can you not try to have your cake and eat it? You said the source was unreliable yet you cite it anyway. Isn't that fallacious reasoning?

[Duestchstien]

Both of these websites are quite sketchy and the graph you used shows the communist coalition parties with over 60% of the vote. But those aside, going back to your former argument. If communism died in Russia, then how is it possible that a communist state arose in east Russia? Furthermore the dominant parties in the communist coalition (The Left SR - Menshevik - Social Revolutionaries Block is literally the party that rose to power in my Russia). So the mot popular party in Russia is in power in my country, and according to you that's not enough for me to do what again? Unite Russia, even though the vast majority of people who supposedly split off are part of my ethnic group and believe strongly in my political ideology?

Also not to mention, Russia's current opposition party is the Russian Communist Party, and its the second most popular party in Russia, disproving your belief that it was because Russian's were forced to or because it was an alternative to the Russian Tsardom.

The RCP had 23-25% of the vote last election, you bonker. So you're only proving his point with it. Also, can you not try to have your cake and eat it? You said the source was unreliable yet you cite it anyway. Isn't that fallacious reasoning?

Thanks, chief. You know I had my reservations about you as a new player, but after looking through your app and all you're actually a pretty cool dude. Best of luck to you.

[Valtrona]

Just as a further note, I found some better sources for you guys, so I would imagine this would be acceptable for you.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Consti ... government
https://spartacus-educational.com/RUSassembly.htm
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/ent ... ly_(Russia)#Between_the_Election_and_the_Convocation_of_the_Assembly_.28November_1917-January_1918.29

This is just to prove the point that Communism wasn’t popular amount the majority of Russians. As my second source points out: "The Russian people, in the freest election in modern history, voted for moderate socialism and against the bourgeoisie." So not a radical form of Socialism, but a more moderate. See, that I’m okey with. It’s just the notion that the guy applying as Russia seems to think that all forms of Socialism and all forms of Communism are the same, and that Russia could still be Communist even when it defies the established history me and the OP wrote. Which is why I won’t accept something like that.

[Emazia]

The RCP had 23-25% of the vote last election, you bonker. So you're only proving his point with it. Also, can you not try to have your cake and eat it? You said the source was unreliable yet you cite it anyway. Isn't that fallacious reasoning?

Thanks, chief. You know I had my reservations about you as a new player, but after looking through your app and all you're actually a pretty cool dude. Best of luck to you.

You too.

[Emazia]

Just as a further note, I found some better sources for you guys, so I would imagine this would be acceptable for you.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Consti ... government
https://spartacus-educational.com/RUSassembly.htm
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/ent ... ly_(Russia)#Between_the_Election_and_the_Convocation_of_the_Assembly_.28November_1917-January_1918.29

This is just to prove the point that Communism wasn’t popular amount the majority of Russians. As my second source points out: "The Russian people, in the freest election in modern history, voted for moderate socialism and against the bourgeoisie." So not a radical form of Socialism, but a more moderate. See, that I’m okey with. It’s just the notion that the guy applying as Russia seems to think that all forms of Socialism and all forms of Communism are the same, and that Russia could still be Communist even when it defies the established history me and the OP wrote. Which is why I won’t accept something like that.

I personally think the app itself is acceptable, since it says it's democratic socialist. Democratic socialism is an (often moderate) form of socialism which believes in multi-party democracy and was/is most commonly flaunted by people like Jeremy Corbyn and Hugo Chavez on the more moderate side of the scale, and Tito and Allende on the more radical side of the scale. I think it would be allowed and probably would've been the ideology of the Russian Republic were it not for the civil war.

[Valtrona]

I personally think the app itself is acceptable, since it says it's democratic socialist. Democratic socialism is an (often moderate) form of socialism which believes in multi-party democracy and was/is most commonly flaunted by people like Jeremy Corbyn and Hugo Chavez on the more moderate side of the scale, and Tito and Allende on the more radical side of the scale. I think it would be allowed and probably would've been the ideology of the Russian Republic were it not for the civil war.

Possibly so, but the fact remains is that the Civil War did occur and the Russian Whites won out in the end. They probably wouldn’t want another Socialist/Communist government running the nation. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Socialism to a small extent being in Russia, like in Denmark or Norway IRL almost. Where I draw the line is when he wants to make it a single party state and compares it with Bolshevik Communism. Of course that’s not the only thing that’s wrong with the application so far, but this is a big issue I’m not standing with sadly. Russia would probably not any form of Monarchy or any form of a Communist/one-party Socialist state, but any other government form I would take with a good explanation of how it worked plus a good written out history. The direction Russia was taking in Metal on Metal wouldn’t allow for it to fall under a more radical Socialist or Communist state after the Bolsheviks were defeated.

[Sapientia Et Bellum]

I swear we have been in the pic stage for three weeks now... I'm quitting if it aint up by tommorrow tbh

[Valtrona]

I swear we have been in the pic stage for three weeks now... I'm quitting if it aint up by tommorrow tbh

I swear to you I’ve been telling the OP to hurry and get the IC up and running. I’ll notifiy him again, give us until the day after tomorrow.

[Emazia]

[Do Not Remove - HAILFUHER]

NS Name: Emazia
RP Name: Official Name: The Imperial State of Germany (Der Kaiserliche Staat von Deutschland, Etat Impérial d'Allemagne, Имперское Государство Германия)
"Alternative" Name: The Third Reich (Das Drittes Reich, Le Troisième reich, Третий Рейх)
Capital: Königsberg/Berlin
Territory:
Cores: All ethnic German land, along with all land currently held. This includes places such as Bohemia, Austria and Alsace-Lorraine.
Population: 75 million
Type of Government: Imperial Monarchy
Government Explaination: Articles 1-5 of the Imperial Constitution summarised (the rest are just about rights and the functioning of government at the lower level):
Article 1 ("The Kaiser and Royal Succession"): There shall be a Kaiser, and one as long as the government remains. This can only be abolished by a 3/4 vote in the Reichstag, although approval is not needed from the Kaiser. Upon the Kaiser's death, his oldest son (or oldest brother if there is no son), shall succeed him. In the case the son is dead but leaves a grandson behind, the fate of the crown shall be decided by the Reichstag, but only between the brother and the grandson of the Kaiser. If there is no son nor brother, the daughter of the Kaiser will be appointed if there is one. If there is no daughter, then the sister of the Kaiser shall be crowned unless the daughter has left a grandson or granddaughter. In the event that there is a granddaughter borne of the son of the dead Kaiser and a grandson borne of the daughter of the dead Kaiser, the grandson shall earn the throne. If there are no children, grandchildren nor siblings, the throne is left to the Reichstag to appoint a member of the dead Kaiser's family. If there is no living relative of the Kaiser's family bearing the last name of the Kaiser, then the throne shall be left to the Reichstag in full to appoint a new Kaiser.
Article 2 ("The Powers of the Kaiser"): The Kaiser shall have the power to veto any bill that the Reichstag approves, along with the ability to pass secondary legislation, except for powers related to fiscal, monetary and foreign policy unless Section 6 is activated, giving the Kaiser total rule over the Empire.
Article 3 ("The Powers of the Reichstag"): The Reichstag shall be headed by a High Imperial Prince and a Speaker (See articles 5 and 6). The Reichstag shall have the irrevocable power to determine foreign, fiscal and monetary policy, unless it chooses to activate Section 6 by a 2/3s majority.
Leader(s): Wilhelm II/Carl Friedrich Goerdeler
Party or Coalition in Power: Imperial Loyalist Party (Kaiserliche Loyalistische Partei, KLP)/German National People's Party (Deutschnationale Volkspartei, DNVP) (The "Black Coalition"/"Schwarze Koalition")
Executive Title: Kaiser Wilhelm II, Hoher Kaiserlicher Prinz (High Imperial Prince) Carl Friedrich Goerdeler
State Ideology: National-Conservative Monarchism.
State Language(s): German
Other Language(s): Polish. Czech, Italian.
Ethnicity Breakdown: 71% German, 18% Polish, 5% Czech, 3% Italian, 3% Other.
Religion Breakdown: 54% Protestant (32% Lutheran, 12% Calvinist, 6% Anglican, 4% Other), 25% Catholic, 14% Orthodox, 4% Judaism, 3% Atheism/Agnosticism/Unaffiliated
Flag:
National Anthem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-9UERP6Umw
National Motto: "Gott mit uns!"
Demonym: German
Map Color: Dark Grey
Technology: Dieselpunk.
Breakdown of ground force(s): See military section.
Machine ideas:
Bodenstein's Powder - This is a modified version of Mendeleev's pyrocollodion, made to be more efficient and practical, creating much larger explosions than classical gunpowder, along with it being less spontaneously combustible (albeit it is still recommended to store it in a cool place to reduce the chance and power of an explosion)
The Groß Panzer - It builds off salvaged designs from the Char 2Cs found in the Great War. It is a large tank, as tall as three men. It towers with large guns and thick armour, along with mud grips to prevent it sinking in swamps. Unlike the below two designs, it is intended to be a mass-produced tank, used for both intimidation and doling out large amounts of damage.
The Hölleninferno (CLASSIFIED, BUT NOT TO A HIGH DEGREE)- Thrice the size of the Groß Panzer, it is a true giant, armed with flamethrowers from a gas tank which is secured with reinforced, bulletproof steel. The flamethrowers use a mix of nitrogen and oxygen (along with exhaust gas which gets it to the temperature where the nitrous oxide creates an exothermic reaction as the oxygen burns, although some propose hydroperoxyl instead.) to create a blue fire, which roasts through enemy tanks and infantry like...well...fire. Despite its possible strength, it is vulnerable in the gas tank (despite the reinforced steel) and can be avoided by flanking as it is unwieldy (hence why it is usually accompanied by infantry or light tanks)
Der Leviathan von Köln (TOP SECRET)- The best for last. If the Hölleninferno was excessive, Der Leviathan is EXCESSIVE. It is 9x the size of the Hölleninferno. It uses the same gas for its flamethrower as the Hölleninferno (at a whopping 50m long), along with being able to release chlorine gas through 3 turrets on the frame. It is 100m tall and operated by over 50 men. It has the thickest armour of any tank ever invented at 250mm. It uses sloped armour, the first of its time, along with ceramic steel armour, another first in tank history. The Leviathan was indestructible in any sense of the word.

Public Goals: Build a German hegemony in the Balkans.
Private Goals: Build the Leviathan and destroy any opposition.

Military name: Deutsches Heer
Military branches: Army, Navy, Air, Special Forces.
Total military size: 3.6 million
Breakdown of land force(s):
Active: 1.8 million
Reserve: 1.3 million
Tanks: 350 (Including 50 Groß Panzers)
AFVs: 2,500
Artillery: 5,000
Breakdown of naval force(s):
2 Super-Battleships (The Feuer des Ozeans and the Ruhm des Rheins, the two largest ships in the world, with the Ruhm des Rheins being larger)
8 Battleships
3 Dreadnoughts
10 Heavy Cruisers
9 Light Cruisers
25 Destroyers
51 Submarines
Breakdown of air force(s):
12,000 light fighters
5,000 heavy fighters
9,000 light bombers
14,000 heavy bombers
1,000 fighter-bombers
8,000 maritime bombers
10,000 helicopters
Breakdown of other branch(es):
Extra military information: The modern German army has been reformed significantly since the Weltkrieg, although still following the same doctrine. It is an experienced army with intelligent and obedient leaders, which is truly a force to be reckoned with. In fact, some say it is the strongest military in the world - and they would be right. Other nations may be more numerous in certain categories, and coalitions of nations might be able to stand to a lone Germany, but Germany dwarfs any other nation in the military as a whole.

GDP: $225 billion
GDP per Capita: $3,000

Currency: German mark
Currency and value of currency compared to USD: 1.2MRK:1USD

Major Domestic Issues: The army is obsessed with all sorts of expensive monoliths (such as Der Leviathan von Köln), large communist support and unrest, the rise of atheism and a reactionary backlash, almost yearly strikes and riots, separatists on the borderlands, disloyal local governments.
Major Foreign Issues: Tense relations with the UK, France and all other major powers bar those it allied in the war.

History: After victory in the Weltkrieg, Germany's economy had suffered afterwards. Firstly due to the Crisis of 1919, which resulted in increased unemployment and the collapse of the military-industrial war as Germans believed that, in 1915, the war would go on for at least another decade or two. This led to a spiralling situation, as military veterans called in the streets for a military government led by Erwin Rommel. Meanwhile, the liberals and the left called for a republic, as tensions increased further in the German Empire over time. On the 19th of September 1919, the Human Freedoms Act and the Military Compensation Act were passed to avert revolution. People were mostly pleased until the 8th of May, 1922. The liberals, the left and the militarists mobilised in the streets of Berlin, declaring an end to the monarchy. Over 100,000 people turned out, as they stormed buildings, waving the flag of their proclaimed German Republic. The military (or the loyalist military, rather) was deployed in the streets to suppress the revolutionaries, although they weren't given orders to shoot. Whilst a few people were hit in the head for punching the military forces, for the next few hours, the liberals continued to rise in the streets, and news had reached across the Empire, leading to smaller protests in other cities. There was a general accord, as it seemed to be a mostly peaceful protests. That is, until a man named Friedrich Einhart led a mob to climb the Reichstag and raise the German Republic's flag over it. Since the Reichstag was considered an important government building, a soldier had fired on the mob and Einhart, killing him. The mob was sent atwitter, as they pummelled the soldier and beat him to death violently. Since the Kaiser feared total revolution, he ordered the soldiers to fire, leading to mass riots over the next few days. Thankfully, however, the Kaiser met with Gustav Stresemann to establish the Imperial State, a complicated framework, which built an HRE-style constitutional monarchy. Stresemann was hailed throughout Germany, from all sides of the political spectrum (except the absolute monarchists) and was unanimously elected High Imperial Prince on the 1st of June, 1922.

Stresemann's term involved large increases in the military budget (about to Weltkrieg levels), which led to a deficit. To resolve this deficit, he met with businesses to create the Stresemann plan and cleared all Weltkrieg debt in exchange for a quarter of it in advance over a year along with large tax cuts to the businesses themselves for 5 years. He worked with the Social Democrats to institute welfare and health programmes to increase productivity, which cleared the deficit in 1925. Elections came in 1926 however, as Stresemann got elected for a second term with a large majority for his coalition government, almost to the point where he could rule alone as the National-Liberal Party. The second term was when the tax cuts expired and so the surplus grew bigger and bigger and Germany was prosperous. That is, until 1929, in which the Black Tuesday panic spread to Germany. Upon hearing of the news, Stresemann received a stroke and was hospitalised. Sadly, he did not live. So, the Reichstag got to approving a new leader: Hermann Müller. Muller, to say the least, handled the situation in a messy way. The government fell into disorganisation, right as the 1930 elections happened.

Of course, as predicted, the DNVP win and become the largest party. They align themselves with the absolute monarchist KLP to form the Black Coalition. Paul von Hindenburg is invited to become High Imperial Prince but refuses, and so Goerdeler takes charge. He cuts taxes, particularly in sales and bails out many businesses. The German economy is kicked back into track by 1934, although it still feels the tingle of Black Tuesday.

RP sample:
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WIP

[Emazia]

Valtrona

Think of it as like the Kingdom of the Netherlands: The Imperial State rules over all German territories and puppets and is centred in Konigsberg. The "German" capital is purely that of Germany proper.

[Valtrona]

Valtrona

Think of it as like the Kingdom of the Netherlands: The Imperial State rules over all German territories and puppets and is centred in Konigsberg. The "German" capital is purely that of Germany proper.

Hm alright, I’m gonna look through the application in an hour or so, gotta do something first.

[Valtrona]

German Empire application:

[Do Not Remove - HAILFUHER]

NS Name: Emazia
RP Name: Official Name: The Imperial State of Germany (Der Kaiserliche Staat von Deutschland, Etat Impérial d'Allemagne, Имперское Государство Германия)
"Alternative" Name: The Third Reich (Das Drittes Reich, Le Troisième reich, Третий Рейх)
Capital: Königsberg/Berlin
Territory: ([url=https://i.ibb.co/Jdrn5tY/C3.png]Image)[/url]
Cores: All ethnic German land, along with all land currently held. This includes places such as Bohemia, Austria and Alsace-Lorraine.
Population: 75 million
Type of Government: Imperial Monarchy
Government Explaination: Articles 1-5 of the Imperial Constitution summarised (the rest are just about rights and the functioning of government at the lower level):
Article 1 ("The Kaiser and Royal Succession"): There shall be a Kaiser, and one as long as the government releases emains. This can only be abolished by a 3/4 vote in the Reichstag, although approval is not needed from the Kaiser. Upon the Kaiser's death, his oldest son (or oldest brother if there is no son), shall succeed him. In the case the son is dead but leaves a grandson behind, the fate of the crown shall be decided by the Reichstag, but only between the brother and the grandson of the Kaiser. If there is no son nor brother, the daughter of the Kaiser will be appointed if there is one. If there is no daughter, then the sister of the Kaiser shall be crowned unless the daughter has left a grandson or granddaughter. In the event that there is a granddaughter borne of the son of the dead Kaiser and a grandson borne of the daughter of the dead Kaiser, the grandson shall earn the throne. If there are no children, grandchildren nor siblings, the throne is left to the Reichstag to appoint a member of the dead Kaiser's family. If there is no living relative of the Kaiser's family bearing the last name of the Kaiser, then the throne shall be left to the Reichstag in full to appoint a new Kaiser.
Article 2 ("The Powers of the Kaiser"): The Kaiser shall have the power to veto any bill that the Reichstag approves, along with the ability to pass secondary legislation, except for powers related to fiscal, monetary and foreign policy unless Section 6 is activated, giving the Kaiser total rule over the Empire.
Article 3 ("The Powers of the Reichstag"): The Reichstag shall be headed by a High Imperial Prince and a Speaker (See articles 5 and 6). The Reichstag shall have the irrevocable power to determine foreign, fiscal and monetary policy, unless it chooses to activate Section 6 by a 2/3s majority.
Leader(s): Wilhelm II/Carl Friedrich Goerdeler
Party or Coalition in Power: Imperial Loyalist Party (Kaiserliche Loyalistische Partei, KLP)/German National People's Party (Deutschnationale Volkspartei, DNVP) (The "Black Coalition"/"Schwarze Koalition")
Executive Title: Kaiser Wilhelm II, Hoher Kaiserlicher Prinz (High Imperial Prince) Carl Friedrich Goerdeler
State Ideology: National-Conservative Monarchism.
State Language(s): German
Other Language(s): Polish. Czech, Italian.
Ethnicity Breakdown: 71% German, 18% Polish, 5% Czech, 3% Italian, 3% Other.
Religion Breakdown: 54% Protestant (32% Lutheran, 12% Calvinist, 6% Anglican, 4% Other), 25% Catholic, 14% Orthodox, 4% Judaism, 3% Atheism/Agnosticism/Unaffiliated
Flag: ([url=https://i.ibb.co/r41tWfM/C3-1.png]Image)[/url]
National Anthem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-9UERP6Umw
National Motto: "Gott mit uns!"
Demonym: German
Map Color: Dark Grey
Technology: Dieselpunk.
Breakdown of ground force(s): See military section.
Machine ideas:
Bodenstein's Powder - This is a modified version of Mendeleev's pyrocollodion, made to be more efficient and practical, creating much larger explosions than classical gunpowder, along with it being less spontaneously combustible (albeit it is still recommended to store it in a cool place to reduce the chance and power of an explosion)
The Groß Panzer - It builds off salvaged designs from the Char 2Cs found in the Great War. It is a large tank, as tall as three men. It towers with large guns and thick armour, along with mud grips to prevent it sinking in swamps. Unlike the below two designs, it is intended to be a mass-produced tank, used for both intimidation and doling out large amounts of damage.
The Hölleninferno (CLASSIFIED, BUT NOT TO A HIGH DEGREE)- Thrice the size of the Groß Panzer, it is a true giant, armed with flamethrowers from a gas tank which is secured with reinforced, bulletproof steel. The flamethrowers use a mix of nitrogen and oxygen (along with exhaust gas which gets it to the temperature where the nitrous oxide creates an exothermic reaction as the oxygen burns, although some propose hydroperoxyl instead.) to create a blue fire, which roasts through enemy tanks and infantry like...well...fire. Despite its possible strength, it is vulnerable in the gas tank (despite the reinforced steel) and can be avoided by flanking as it is unwieldy (hence why it is usually accompanied by infantry or light tanks)
Der Leviathan von Köln (TOP SECRET)- The best for last. If the Hölleninferno was excessive, Der Leviathan is EXCESSIVE. It is 9x the size of the Hölleninferno. It uses the same gas for its flamethrower as the Hölleninferno (at a whopping 50m long), along with being able to release chlorine gas through 3 turrets on the frame. It is 100m tall and operated by over 50 men. It has the thickest armour of any tank ever invented at 250mm. It uses sloped armour, the first of its time, along with ceramic steel armour, another first in tank history. The Leviathan was indestructible in any sense of the word.

Public Goals: Build a German hegemony in the Balkans.
Private Goals: Build the Leviathan and destroy any opposition.

Military name: Deutsches Heer
Military branches: Army, Navy, Air, Special Forces.
Total military size: 3.6 million
Breakdown of land force(s):
Active: 1.8 million
Reserve: 1.3 million
Tanks: 350 (Including 50 Groß Panzers)
AFVs: 2,500
Artillery: 5,000
Breakdown of naval force(s):
2 Super-Battleships (The Feuer des Ozeans and the Ruhm des Rheins, the two largest ships in the world, with the Ruhm des Rheins being larger)
8 Battleships
3 Dreadnoughts
10 Heavy Cruisers
9 Light Cruisers
25 Destroyers
51 Submarines
Breakdown of air force(s):
12,000 light fighters
5,000 heavy fighters
9,000 light bombers
14,000 heavy bombers
1,000 fighter-bombers
8,000 maritime bombers
10,000 helicopters
Breakdown of other branch(es):
Extra military information: The modern German army has been reformed significantly since the Weltkrieg, although still following the same doctrine. It is an experienced army with intelligent and obedient leaders, which is truly a force to be reckoned with. In fact, some say it is the strongest military in the world - and they would be right. Other nations may be more numerous in certain categories, and coalitions of nations might be able to stand to a lone Germany, but Germany dwarfs any other nation in the military as a whole.

GDP: $225 billion
GDP per Capita: $3,000

Currency: German mark
Currency and value of currency compared to USD: 1.2MRK:1USD

Major Domestic Issues: The army is obsessed with all sorts of expensive monoliths (such as Der Leviathan von Köln), large communist support and unrest, the rise of atheism and a reactionary backlash, almost yearly strikes and riots, separatists on the borderlands, disloyal local governments.
Major Foreign Issues: Tense relations with the UK, France and all other major powers bar those it allied in the war.

History: After victory in the Weltkrieg, Germany's economy had suffered afterwards. Firstly due to the Crisis of 1919, which resulted in increased unemployment and the collapse of the military-industrial war as Germans believed that, in 1915, the war would go on for at least another decade or two. This led to a spiralling situation, as military veterans called in the streets for a military government led by Erwin Rommel. Meanwhile, the liberals and the left called for a republic, as tensions increased further in the German Empire over time. On the 19th of September 1919, the Human Freedoms Act and the Military Compensation Act were passed to avert revolution. People were mostly pleased until the 8th of May, 1922. The liberals, the left and the militarists mobilised in the streets of Berlin, declaring an end to the monarchy. Over 100,000 people turned out, as they stormed buildings, waving the flag of their proclaimed German Republic. The military (or the loyalist military, rather) was deployed in the streets to suppress the revolutionaries, although they weren't given orders to shoot. Whilst a few people were hit in the head for punching the military forces, for the next few hours, the liberals continued to rise in the streets, and news had reached across the Empire, leading to smaller protests in other cities. There was a general accord, as it seemed to be a mostly peaceful protests. That is, until a man named Friedrich Einhart led a mob to climb the Reichstag and raise the German Republic's flag over it. Since the Reichstag was considered an important government building, a soldier had fired on the mob and Einhart, killing him. The mob was sent atwitter, as they pummelled the soldier and beat him to death violently. Since the Kaiser feared total revolution, he ordered the soldiers to fire, leading to mass riots over the next few days. Thankfully, however, the Kaiser met with Gustav Stresemann to establish the Imperial State, a complicated framework, which built an HRE-style constitutional monarchy. Stresemann was hailed throughout Germany, from all sides of the political spectrum (except the absolute monarchists) and was unanimously elected High Imperial Prince on the 1st of June, 1922.

Stresemann's term involved large increases in the military budget (about to Weltkrieg levels), which led to a deficit. To resolve this deficit, he met with businesses to create the Stresemann plan and cleared all Weltkrieg debt in exchange for a quarter of it in advance over a year along with large tax cuts to the businesses themselves for 5 years. He worked with the Social Democrats to institute welfare and health programmes to increase productivity, which cleared the deficit in 1925. Elections came in 1926 however, as Stresemann got elected for a second term with a large majority for his coalition government, almost to the point where he could rule alone as the National-Liberal Party. The second term was when the tax cuts expired and so the surplus grew bigger and bigger and Germany was prosperous. That is, until 1929, in which the Black Tuesday panic spread to Germany. Upon hearing of the news, Stresemann received a stroke and was hospitalised. Sadly, he did not live. So, the Reichstag got to approving a new leader: Hermann Müller. Muller, to say the least, handled the situation in a messy way. The government fell into disorganisation, right as the 1930 elections happened.

Of course, as predicted, the DNVP win and become the largest party. They align themselves with the absolute monarchist KLP to form the Black Coalition. Paul von Hindenburg is invited to become High Imperial Prince but refuses, and so Goerdeler takes charge. He cuts taxes, particularly in sales and bails out many businesses. The German economy is kicked back into track by 1934, although it still feels the tingle of Black Tuesday.

RP sample:
Template by Arvenia

WIP

Okay I’m fine with the Imperial State idea, but I think the capital would remain in Berlin. I understand the reasoning, but I find it hard to think that Germany would have a good reason to not keep the capital of Germany and therefore the Imperial State in Berlin, the heart of three German Reich. Also, change the “Third Reich” to the “Second Reich” or simply the German Empire.

For the population I assume that’s the German mainland in Europe if I’m correct? If so that’s fine, just add on the population of the German colonies and their puppet states as well if that’s alright. For Executive Title we only need the title, so “Kaiser” and “Chancellor” I assume would be the two titles. For the other languages and ethnicities, don’t forget their would be a minority of Belgians, Luxembourghers, and Danish as well. So you can add that as well. Official Military names would include the Deutsches Heer (Army), Kaiserliche Marine (Navy), and the Deutsche Luftstreitkräfte (Air-Force). I’m sorry to say I don’t know the official name of their special forces branch or what the entire German Armed Forces is called, so you can make those up if it’s easier. Just be sure to use German and English names. The Navy should be about double than it is currently except for the two Super Battleships, those can stay the same. Oh, and I would increase the German GDP to around 525 billion and the GDP per capita as well needs to be bigger. (I need to downsize Italy’s GDP speaking of which).

Don’t forget the RP sample of course! Besides those things I think it’s a great application and definitely will be accepted if the changes above are implemented. The OP may still be skeptical about the Imperial State idea, so you can explain it personally to him once he’s online.

[Deutschess Kaiserreich]

EVERYONE SILENCE. I WILL REVEIW EVERYTHING THAT HAS HAPPENED SO FAR.

[Deutschess Kaiserreich]

After the last war ended decisively in one side's favor, the victors should have kept whatever stuff they needed to occupy conquered territory and pin down the vanquished. Everything else should have been demobilized and mothballed to save money because maintaining millions of soldiers and sailors who are doing nothing is a huge economic drain.

[Deutschess Kaiserreich]

Olympus shall burn!

[Shrive]

Heck yeaaahhhhhhh

I'll start up in the morning

[Deutschess Kaiserreich]

[Do Not Remove - HAILFUHER]

NS Name: Emazia
RP Name: Official Name: The Imperial State of Germany (Der Kaiserliche Staat von Deutschland, Etat Impérial d'Allemagne, Имперское Государство Германия)
"Alternative" Name: The Third Reich (Das Drittes Reich, Le Troisième reich, Третий Рейх)

WIP

Also tone down your army a bit, please. 10% reduction.

[Emazia]

German Empire application:

[Do Not Remove - HAILFUHER]

NS Name: Emazia
RP Name: Official Name: The Imperial State of Germany (Der Kaiserliche Staat von Deutschland, Etat Impérial d'Allemagne, Имперское Государство Германия)
"Alternative" Name: The Third Reich (Das Drittes Reich, Le Troisième reich, Третий Рейх)
Capital: Königsberg/Berlin
Territory: ([url=https://i.ibb.co/Jdrn5tY/C3.png]Image)[/url]
Cores: All ethnic German land, along with all land currently held. This includes places such as Bohemia, Austria and Alsace-Lorraine.
Population: 75 million
Type of Government: Imperial Monarchy
Government Explaination: Articles 1-5 of the Imperial Constitution summarised (the rest are just about rights and the functioning of government at the lower level):
Article 1 ("The Kaiser and Royal Succession"): There shall be a Kaiser, and one as long as the government releases emains. This can only be abolished by a 3/4 vote in the Reichstag, although approval is not needed from the Kaiser. Upon the Kaiser's death, his oldest son (or oldest brother if there is no son), shall succeed him. In the case the son is dead but leaves a grandson behind, the fate of the crown shall be decided by the Reichstag, but only between the brother and the grandson of the Kaiser. If there is no son nor brother, the daughter of the Kaiser will be appointed if there is one. If there is no daughter, then the sister of the Kaiser shall be crowned unless the daughter has left a grandson or granddaughter. In the event that there is a granddaughter borne of the son of the dead Kaiser and a grandson borne of the daughter of the dead Kaiser, the grandson shall earn the throne. If there are no children, grandchildren nor siblings, the throne is left to the Reichstag to appoint a member of the dead Kaiser's family. If there is no living relative of the Kaiser's family bearing the last name of the Kaiser, then the throne shall be left to the Reichstag in full to appoint a new Kaiser.
Article 2 ("The Powers of the Kaiser"): The Kaiser shall have the power to veto any bill that the Reichstag approves, along with the ability to pass secondary legislation, except for powers related to fiscal, monetary and foreign policy unless Section 6 is activated, giving the Kaiser total rule over the Empire.
Article 3 ("The Powers of the Reichstag"): The Reichstag shall be headed by a High Imperial Prince and a Speaker (See articles 5 and 6). The Reichstag shall have the irrevocable power to determine foreign, fiscal and monetary policy, unless it chooses to activate Section 6 by a 2/3s majority.
Leader(s): Wilhelm II/Carl Friedrich Goerdeler
Party or Coalition in Power: Imperial Loyalist Party (Kaiserliche Loyalistische Partei, KLP)/German National People's Party (Deutschnationale Volkspartei, DNVP) (The "Black Coalition"/"Schwarze Koalition")
Executive Title: Kaiser Wilhelm II, Hoher Kaiserlicher Prinz (High Imperial Prince) Carl Friedrich Goerdeler
State Ideology: National-Conservative Monarchism.
State Language(s): German
Other Language(s): Polish. Czech, Italian.
Ethnicity Breakdown: 71% German, 18% Polish, 5% Czech, 3% Italian, 3% Other.
Religion Breakdown: 54% Protestant (32% Lutheran, 12% Calvinist, 6% Anglican, 4% Other), 25% Catholic, 14% Orthodox, 4% Judaism, 3% Atheism/Agnosticism/Unaffiliated
Flag: ([url=https://i.ibb.co/r41tWfM/C3-1.png]Image)[/url]
National Anthem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-9UERP6Umw
National Motto: "Gott mit uns!"
Demonym: German
Map Color: Dark Grey
Technology: Dieselpunk.
Breakdown of ground force(s): See military section.
Machine ideas:
Bodenstein's Powder - This is a modified version of Mendeleev's pyrocollodion, made to be more efficient and practical, creating much larger explosions than classical gunpowder, along with it being less spontaneously combustible (albeit it is still recommended to store it in a cool place to reduce the chance and power of an explosion)
The Groß Panzer - It builds off salvaged designs from the Char 2Cs found in the Great War. It is a large tank, as tall as three men. It towers with large guns and thick armour, along with mud grips to prevent it sinking in swamps. Unlike the below two designs, it is intended to be a mass-produced tank, used for both intimidation and doling out large amounts of damage.
The Hölleninferno (CLASSIFIED, BUT NOT TO A HIGH DEGREE)- Thrice the size of the Groß Panzer, it is a true giant, armed with flamethrowers from a gas tank which is secured with reinforced, bulletproof steel. The flamethrowers use a mix of nitrogen and oxygen (along with exhaust gas which gets it to the temperature where the nitrous oxide creates an exothermic reaction as the oxygen burns, although some propose hydroperoxyl instead.) to create a blue fire, which roasts through enemy tanks and infantry like...well...fire. Despite its possible strength, it is vulnerable in the gas tank (despite the reinforced steel) and can be avoided by flanking as it is unwieldy (hence why it is usually accompanied by infantry or light tanks)
Der Leviathan von Köln (TOP SECRET)- The best for last. If the Hölleninferno was excessive, Der Leviathan is EXCESSIVE. It is 9x the size of the Hölleninferno. It uses the same gas for its flamethrower as the Hölleninferno (at a whopping 50m long), along with being able to release chlorine gas through 3 turrets on the frame. It is 100m tall and operated by over 50 men. It has the thickest armour of any tank ever invented at 250mm. It uses sloped armour, the first of its time, along with ceramic steel armour, another first in tank history. The Leviathan was indestructible in any sense of the word.

Public Goals: Build a German hegemony in the Balkans.
Private Goals: Build the Leviathan and destroy any opposition.

Military name: Deutsches Heer
Military branches: Army, Navy, Air, Special Forces.
Total military size: 3.6 million
Breakdown of land force(s):
Active: 1.8 million
Reserve: 1.3 million
Tanks: 350 (Including 50 Groß Panzers)
AFVs: 2,500
Artillery: 5,000
Breakdown of naval force(s):
2 Super-Battleships (The Feuer des Ozeans and the Ruhm des Rheins, the two largest ships in the world, with the Ruhm des Rheins being larger)
8 Battleships
3 Dreadnoughts
10 Heavy Cruisers
9 Light Cruisers
25 Destroyers
51 Submarines
Breakdown of air force(s):
12,000 light fighters
5,000 heavy fighters
9,000 light bombers
14,000 heavy bombers
1,000 fighter-bombers
8,000 maritime bombers
10,000 helicopters
Breakdown of other branch(es):
Extra military information: The modern German army has been reformed significantly since the Weltkrieg, although still following the same doctrine. It is an experienced army with intelligent and obedient leaders, which is truly a force to be reckoned with. In fact, some say it is the strongest military in the world - and they would be right. Other nations may be more numerous in certain categories, and coalitions of nations might be able to stand to a lone Germany, but Germany dwarfs any other nation in the military as a whole.

GDP: $225 billion
GDP per Capita: $3,000

Currency: German mark
Currency and value of currency compared to USD: 1.2MRK:1USD

Major Domestic Issues: The army is obsessed with all sorts of expensive monoliths (such as Der Leviathan von Köln), large communist support and unrest, the rise of atheism and a reactionary backlash, almost yearly strikes and riots, separatists on the borderlands, disloyal local governments.
Major Foreign Issues: Tense relations with the UK, France and all other major powers bar those it allied in the war.

History: After victory in the Weltkrieg, Germany's economy had suffered afterwards. Firstly due to the Crisis of 1919, which resulted in increased unemployment and the collapse of the military-industrial war as Germans believed that, in 1915, the war would go on for at least another decade or two. This led to a spiralling situation, as military veterans called in the streets for a military government led by Erwin Rommel. Meanwhile, the liberals and the left called for a republic, as tensions increased further in the German Empire over time. On the 19th of September 1919, the Human Freedoms Act and the Military Compensation Act were passed to avert revolution. People were mostly pleased until the 8th of May, 1922. The liberals, the left and the militarists mobilised in the streets of Berlin, declaring an end to the monarchy. Over 100,000 people turned out, as they stormed buildings, waving the flag of their proclaimed German Republic. The military (or the loyalist military, rather) was deployed in the streets to suppress the revolutionaries, although they weren't given orders to shoot. Whilst a few people were hit in the head for punching the military forces, for the next few hours, the liberals continued to rise in the streets, and news had reached across the Empire, leading to smaller protests in other cities. There was a general accord, as it seemed to be a mostly peaceful protests. That is, until a man named Friedrich Einhart led a mob to climb the Reichstag and raise the German Republic's flag over it. Since the Reichstag was considered an important government building, a soldier had fired on the mob and Einhart, killing him. The mob was sent atwitter, as they pummelled the soldier and beat him to death violently. Since the Kaiser feared total revolution, he ordered the soldiers to fire, leading to mass riots over the next few days. Thankfully, however, the Kaiser met with Gustav Stresemann to establish the Imperial State, a complicated framework, which built an HRE-style constitutional monarchy. Stresemann was hailed throughout Germany, from all sides of the political spectrum (except the absolute monarchists) and was unanimously elected High Imperial Prince on the 1st of June, 1922.

Stresemann's term involved large increases in the military budget (about to Weltkrieg levels), which led to a deficit. To resolve this deficit, he met with businesses to create the Stresemann plan and cleared all Weltkrieg debt in exchange for a quarter of it in advance over a year along with large tax cuts to the businesses themselves for 5 years. He worked with the Social Democrats to institute welfare and health programmes to increase productivity, which cleared the deficit in 1925. Elections came in 1926 however, as Stresemann got elected for a second term with a large majority for his coalition government, almost to the point where he could rule alone as the National-Liberal Party. The second term was when the tax cuts expired and so the surplus grew bigger and bigger and Germany was prosperous. That is, until 1929, in which the Black Tuesday panic spread to Germany. Upon hearing of the news, Stresemann received a stroke and was hospitalised. Sadly, he did not live. So, the Reichstag got to approving a new leader: Hermann Müller. Muller, to say the least, handled the situation in a messy way. The government fell into disorganisation, right as the 1930 elections happened.

Of course, as predicted, the DNVP win and become the largest party. They align themselves with the absolute monarchist KLP to form the Black Coalition. Paul von Hindenburg is invited to become High Imperial Prince but refuses, and so Goerdeler takes charge. He cuts taxes, particularly in sales and bails out many businesses. The German economy is kicked back into track by 1934, although it still feels the tingle of Black Tuesday.

RP sample:
Template by Arvenia

WIP

Okay I’m fine with the Imperial State idea, but I think the capital would remain in Berlin. I understand the reasoning, but I find it hard to think that Germany would have a good reason to not keep the capital of Germany and therefore the Imperial State in Berlin, the heart of three German Reich. Also, change the “Third Reich” to the “Second Reich” or simply the German Empire.

For the population I assume that’s the German mainland in Europe if I’m correct? If so that’s fine, just add on the population of the German colonies and their puppet states as well if that’s alright. For Executive Title we only need the title, so “Kaiser” and “Chancellor” I assume would be the two titles. For the other languages and ethnicities, don’t forget their would be a minority of Belgians, Luxembourghers, and Danish as well. So you can add that as well. Official Military names would include the Deutsches Heer (Army), Kaiserliche Marine (Navy), and the Deutsche Luftstreitkräfte (Air-Force). I’m sorry to say I don’t know the official name of their special forces branch or what the entire German Armed Forces is called, so you can make those up if it’s easier. Just be sure to use German and English names. The Navy should be about double than it is currently except for the two Super Battleships, those can stay the same. Oh, and I would increase the German GDP to around 525 billion and the GDP per capita as well needs to be bigger. (I need to downsize Italy’s GDP speaking of which).

Don’t forget the RP sample of course! Besides those things I think it’s a great application and definitely will be accepted if the changes above are implemented. The OP may still be skeptical about the Imperial State idea, so you can explain it personally to him once he’s online.

I'll move the capital to Berlin and change all the statistics. The Belgians, Luxembourgers and Danish are included in "Other". The Deutsches Heer I believe is the name for the entire military. The real German military is called the Bundeswehr, but that means "Federal Army". I'll just make it the Kaiserlicheswehr. The marines/special forces were just called Das Marines or something, basically just the Marines but in German. I mean, having that large of a GDP per capita seems something that's only for small city-states but I'll do so if you wish.

Can I just link to the Metal on Metal thread for my RP sample because I don't want to fish around the multitude of regions I was/am in?

[Deutschess Kaiserreich]

German Empire application:

Okay I’m fine with the Imperial State idea, but I think the capital would remain in Berlin. I understand the reasoning, but I find it hard to think that Germany would have a good reason to not keep the capital of Germany and therefore the Imperial State in Berlin, the heart of three German Reich. Also, change the “Third Reich” to the “Second Reich” or simply the German Empire.

For the population I assume that’s the German mainland in Europe if I’m correct? If so that’s fine, just add on the population of the German colonies and their puppet states as well if that’s alright. For Executive Title we only need the title, so “Kaiser” and “Chancellor” I assume would be the two titles. For the other languages and ethnicities, don’t forget their would be a minority of Belgians, Luxembourghers, and Danish as well. So you can add that as well. Official Military names would include the Deutsches Heer (Army), Kaiserliche Marine (Navy), and the Deutsche Luftstreitkräfte (Air-Force). I’m sorry to say I don’t know the official name of their special forces branch or what the entire German Armed Forces is called, so you can make those up if it’s easier. Just be sure to use German and English names. The Navy should be about double than it is currently except for the two Super Battleships, those can stay the same. Oh, and I would increase the German GDP to around 525 billion and the GDP per capita as well needs to be bigger. (I need to downsize Italy’s GDP speaking of which).

Don’t forget the RP sample of course! Besides those things I think it’s a great application and definitely will be accepted if the changes above are implemented. The OP may still be skeptical about the Imperial State idea, so you can explain it personally to him once he’s online.

I'll move the capital to Berlin and change all the statistics. The Belgians, Luxembourgers and Danish are included in "Other". The Deutsches Heer I believe is the name for the entire military. The real German military is called the Bundeswehr, but that means "Federal Army". I'll just make it the Kaiserlicheswehr. The marines/special forces were just called Das Marines or something, basically just the Marines but in German. I mean, having that large of a GDP per capita seems something that's only for small city-states but I'll do so if you wish.

Can I just link to the Metal on Metal thread for my RP sample because I don't want to fish around the multitude of regions I was/am in?

Ehhh. I would like to get more samples than our last RP TBH.

[Free States of Agnosicstan]

So...IC thread is up now, right?

Edit: Can't even spell, woo.

[Deutschess Kaiserreich]

So...IC threat is up now, right?

Yup

[Free States of Agnosicstan]

So...IC threat is up now, right?

Yup

What date is it starting at in 1936?