Anno 2054 (Reboot/Nation/PMT/OOC/Dead)

[Cappuccina]

I find the political culture of the new American nations to be interesting, as none of them are outright dictatorships....they at least attempt the façade of democracy.

I'd like to make an ad hoc democracy index rating for them.

From the apps, I'd image the Atlantic Federation and Yukocolumbia, and maybe Cuba being on the highest tier "full democracies", and they're seemingly pure old school American style republics.

The Pacific States of America, the Republic of Texas, the Quebec Republic would be second tier "flawed democracies" or "hybrid regimes", as the PSA's parliament is organized as a collection Union representatives (govt approved unions)this could lead to strong corporate influence on policy. Texas is stratocratic with the military branches having massive influence. Quebec has a mixture of both, it's upper legislative house organized as a stratocratic body of only military officers, and a lower house organized as a body mostly of Union representatives... except unlike the PSA both workers and employers unions are represented.

[Imperialisium]

I'm very surprised no one has claimed Germany, also, is there a map or something?

Sadly not. But Germany is free...

False there is a map. Op hasn’t posted it though. But just a search of ‘map’ should pull up relevant post with the link

[The Felan Federation]

I find the political culture of the new American nations to be interesting, as none of them are outright dictatorships....they at least attempt the façade of democracy.

I'd like to make an ad hoc democracy index rating for them.

From the apps, I'd image the Atlantic Federation and Yukocolumbia, and maybe Cuba being on the highest tier "full democracies", and they're seemingly pure old school American style republics.

The Pacific States of America, the Republic of Texas, the Quebec Republic would be second tier "flawed democracies" or "hybrid regimes", as the PSA's parliament is organized as a collection Union representatives (govt approved unions)this could lead to strong corporate influence on policy. Texas is stratocratic with the military branches having massive influence. Quebec has a mixture of both, it's upper legislative house organized as a stratocratic body of only military officers, and a lower house organized as a body mostly of Union representatives... except unlike the PSA both workers and employers unions are represented.

Corporate influence? Perhaps...if we didn't have the strongest anti-Big Business/trust-busting laws in America. Basically most such unions are part of mom-pop/small business. Anything bigger than that has more red tape than the Soviet Union on them.

The syndicalist influence has meant - that Big Business is looked up as someone to control and legislate hard. Since many remember how Wall Street and all other Big Business bribed and robbed America of their wealth. In a way, if you cause a recession in the PSA - you aren't bribing or talking your way out of this. It is the hangman noose...

[The Felan Federation]

I think this is it?

https://imgur.com/TemzxCK

[Newne Carriebean7]

Texas is stratocratic with the military branches having massive influence.

I mean, you get to vote for the National Assembly, President and Senate for 4,4 and 8 years respectively. Well, if you're not a slave or an immigrant, so that's some of the population with a say in the stratocratic operation of the country. We're not really completely democratic thanks to the constant political violence between the political parties and we're not fully a dictatorship because of the splintered nation of the various parties that not only want to keep slaves, but also own themselves some MBTs to go alongside with it. I think I'll have the entire navy be politically pressured into sortieing from the harbors of Texas to engage the Cuban fleets in a pitched battle on the high seas because of the threats of withdrawn funding and execution of a few top ranking cautious political officials.
The invasion of Louisiana's not that planned out because of more time spending bombing your political opponents and less time actually getting supplies up to the troops not from horses.

[Cappuccina]

I find the political culture of the new American nations to be interesting, as none of them are outright dictatorships....they at least attempt the façade of democracy.

I'd like to make an ad hoc democracy index rating for them.

From the apps, I'd image the Atlantic Federation and Yukocolumbia, and maybe Cuba being on the highest tier "full democracies", and they're seemingly pure old school American style republics.

The Pacific States of America, the Republic of Texas, the Quebec Republic would be second tier "flawed democracies" or "hybrid regimes", as the PSA's parliament is organized as a collection Union representatives (govt approved unions)this could lead to strong corporate influence on policy. Texas is stratocratic with the military branches having massive influence. Quebec has a mixture of both, it's upper legislative house organized as a stratocratic body of only military officers, and a lower house organized as a body mostly of Union representatives... except unlike the PSA both workers and employers unions are represented.

Corporate influence? Perhaps...if we didn't have the strongest anti-Big Business/trust-busting laws in America. Basically most such unions are part of mom-pop/small business. Anything bigger than that has more red tape than the Soviet Union on them.

The syndicalist influence has meant - that Big Business is looked up as someone to control and legislate hard. Since many remember how Wall Street and all other Big Business bribed and robbed America of their wealth. In a way, if you cause a recession in the PSA - you aren't bribing or talking your way out of this. It is the hangman noose...

I mean, even in that case, the workers' unions would still be looking out primarily for their own economic interest. Quebec's lower house is organized a bit differently than the PSA's parliament as the unions aren't attached to individual businesses but an entire sector of the economy . For example all businesses in the, say, automotive industry would be represented together at the national level by an automakers union.

Texas is stratocratic with the military branches having massive influence.

I mean, you get to vote for the National Assembly, President and Senate for 4,4 and 8 years respectively. Well, if you're not a slave or an immigrant, so that's some of the population with a say in the stratocratic operation of the country. We're not really completely democratic thanks to the constant political violence between the political parties and we're not fully a dictatorship because of the splintered nation of the various parties that not only want to keep slaves, but also own themselves some MBTs to go alongside with it. I think I'll have the entire navy be politically pressured into sortieing from the harbors of Texas to engage the Cuban fleets in a pitched battle on the high seas because of the threats of withdrawn funding and execution of a few top ranking cautious political officials.
The invasion of Louisiana's not that planned out because of more time spending bombing your political opponents and less time actually getting supplies up to the troops not from horses.

Hmm, that's a bit different from how it works in Quebec, the stratocratic upper house is made up of representatives appointed by each of the branches of the military. Like Texas, however, the military branches do each have their own agendas. Quebec has been dominated by the Gendarmarie (the former Sûrete du Quebec/provincal police) which since the end of Quebec's independence war has supported isolationism.

[Imperialisium]

I think this is it?

https://imgur.com/TemzxCK

Aye that’s it. Not the best but it’ll do in a pinch

[The Felan Federation]

Corporate influence? Perhaps...if we didn't have the strongest anti-Big Business/trust-busting laws in America. Basically most such unions are part of mom-pop/small business. Anything bigger than that has more red tape than the Soviet Union on them.

The syndicalist influence has meant - that Big Business is looked up as someone to control and legislate hard. Since many remember how Wall Street and all other Big Business bribed and robbed America of their wealth. In a way, if you cause a recession in the PSA - you aren't bribing or talking your way out of this. It is the hangman noose...

I mean, even in that case, the workers' unions would still be looking out primarily for their own economic interest. Quebec's lower house is organized a bit differently than the PSA's parliament as the unions aren't attached to individual businesses but an entire sector of the economy . For example all businesses in the, say, automotive industry would be represented together at the national level by an automakers union.

Hmm. What is the difference in that regard?

I mean my idea is the basis - that anywhere you have to work and get paid for is represented by an union of that sector. Like corn and beef are represented in the Agricultural Union and those people vote for people in that Union into the House and Senate.

[Cappuccina]

I mean, even in that case, the workers' unions would still be looking out primarily for their own economic interest. Quebec's lower house is organized a bit differently than the PSA's parliament as the unions aren't attached to individual businesses but an entire sector of the economy . For example all businesses in the, say, automotive industry would be represented together at the national level by an automakers union.

Hmm. What is the difference in that regard?

I mean my idea is the basis - that anywhere you have to work and get paid for is represented by an union of that sector. Like corn and beef are represented in the Agricultural Union and those people vote for people in that Union into the House and Senate.

Ah, ok.. I somehow misunderstood what you meant as, each business having it's own individual Union at national level. But after your clarification, the PSA's and Quebec's systems are identical in that regard. However, are there employers' unions allowed and represented as well, like in Quebec? From your app it sounds like only workers' unions are.

[Parcia]

Texas is stratocratic with the military branches having massive influence.

I mean, you get to vote for the National Assembly, President and Senate for 4,4 and 8 years respectively. Well, if you're not a slave or an immigrant, so that's some of the population with a say in the stratocratic operation of the country. We're not really completely democratic thanks to the constant political violence between the political parties and we're not fully a dictatorship because of the splintered nation of the various parties that not only want to keep slaves, but also own themselves some MBTs to go alongside with it. I think I'll have the entire navy be politically pressured into sortieing from the harbors of Texas to engage the Cuban fleets in a pitched battle on the high seas because of the threats of withdrawn funding and execution of a few top ranking cautious political officials.
The invasion of Louisiana's not that planned out because of more time spending bombing your political opponents and less time actually getting supplies up to the troops not from horses.

"Cuban Surface fleets.." FleetS, with an S?

Mate, I have 6 proper surface combatants and a bunch of missile corvettes, you'd be really lucky to face them in Open combat like that.

Nah, this is going to be a Sub war for the first few months.

[The Felan Federation]

Hmm. What is the difference in that regard?

I mean my idea is the basis - that anywhere you have to work and get paid for is represented by an union of that sector. Like corn and beef are represented in the Agricultural Union and those people vote for people in that Union into the House and Senate.

Ah, ok.. I somehow misunderstood what you meant as, each business having it's own individual Union at national level. But after your clarification, the PSA's and Quebec's systems are identical in that regard. However, are there employers' unions allowed and represented as well, like in Quebec? From your app it sounds like only workers' unions are.

Worker' unions. Since the employers are in it too.

[Cappuccina]

I mean, you get to vote for the National Assembly, President and Senate for 4,4 and 8 years respectively. Well, if you're not a slave or an immigrant, so that's some of the population with a say in the stratocratic operation of the country. We're not really completely democratic thanks to the constant political violence between the political parties and we're not fully a dictatorship because of the splintered nation of the various parties that not only want to keep slaves, but also own themselves some MBTs to go alongside with it. I think I'll have the entire navy be politically pressured into sortieing from the harbors of Texas to engage the Cuban fleets in a pitched battle on the high seas because of the threats of withdrawn funding and execution of a few top ranking cautious political officials.
The invasion of Louisiana's not that planned out because of more time spending bombing your political opponents and less time actually getting supplies up to the troops not from horses.

"Cuban Surface fleets.." FleetS, with an S?

Mate, I have 6 proper surface combatants and a bunch of missile corvettes, you'd be really lucky to face them in Open combat like that.

Nah, this is going to be a Sub war for the first few months.

Mmm...subs.

Submarines would workout quite well for Cuba's geographic locale, actually. You'd probably want to keep them out of the Gulf though.

Ah, ok.. I somehow misunderstood what you meant as, each business having it's own individual Union at national level. But after your clarification, the PSA's and Quebec's systems are identical in that regard. However, are there employers' unions allowed and represented as well, like in Quebec? From your app it sounds like only workers' unions are.

Worker' unions. Since the employers are in it too.

Ah, so you have them combined?

[Parcia]

"Cuban Surface fleets.." FleetS, with an S?

Mate, I have 6 proper surface combatants and a bunch of missile corvettes, you'd be really lucky to face them in Open combat like that.

Nah, this is going to be a Sub war for the first few months.

Mmm...subs.

Submarines would workout quite well for Cuba's geographic locale, actually. You'd probably want to keep them out of the Gulf though.

Ehh, a good Few sorties in to the Gulf. I can learn the Gulf Pretty well.

[Cappuccina]

Mmm...subs.

Submarines would workout quite well for Cuba's geographic locale, actually. You'd probably want to keep them out of the Gulf though.

Ehh, a good Few sorties in to the Gulf. I can learn the Gulf Pretty well.

Good strategy.

Another plus is that you'd be building conventional subs (aka non-nuclear), which are comparitively cheap, since they don't require the extra sound dampening (reactors are LOUD in sub world). A well built diesel-electric sub is very quiet, but the drawback is they are slower...much slower, and require fuel (shorter deployments).

[The Felan Federation]

Ah, ok.. I somehow misunderstood what you meant as, each business having it's own individual Union at national level. But after your clarification, the PSA's and Quebec's systems are identical in that regard. However, are there employers' unions allowed and represented as well, like in Quebec? From your app it sounds like only workers' unions are.

Worker' unions. Since the employers are in it too.
Ah, so you have them combined?

Something like that. PSA is a about working together, instead of being divided into separate categories. Thus managers and workers try to work together for a common goal. As usual, that means not much initiative outside of R&D but it means many people are employed and the things they do manufacture should be of good quality and not get shortcutted.

[Republic of Turbin]

I thought wmds were banned from the rules

[Parcia]

I thought wmds were banned from the rules

Their use, sure.

How ever I don't think we can't have them.

[Greater Redosia]

I thought wmds were banned from the rules

Their use, sure.

How ever I don't think we can't have them.

Yeah, I mean. Technically I would have some nuclear weapons, since Britain irl has them and in the history they didn't use them.

[Democratic East-Asia]

That last Russian post... just what?

[Parcia]

That last Russian post... just what?

Sorry, what's the problem?

[Democratic East-Asia]

That last Russian post... just what?

Sorry, what's the problem?

Suddenly reuniting a country that fell apart within a single post. Kinda odd don't ya think?

[Parcia]

Sorry, what's the problem?

Suddenly reuniting a country that fell apart within a single post. Kinda odd don't ya think?

-shrugs-

Tbh, im not too worried about it. Verse is good people if nothing else.

Though I can see what you mean.

[Democratic East-Asia]

-shrugs-

Tbh, im not too worried about it. Verse is good people if nothing else.

Though I can see what you mean.

I guess I'll just leave this up to the others. Not involved in this RP (yet?) so whatevs.

[Newne Carriebean7]

*waves at DEA*
Oh yeah I forgot I had a navy, well the good news I'm one destroyer poorer now! I just need to get Texas out of the harbor to lure the enemies torpedoes out of hiding!

[Imperialisium]

-shrugs-

Tbh, im not too worried about it. Verse is good people if nothing else.

Though I can see what you mean.

I guess I'll just leave this up to the others. Not involved in this RP (yet?) so whatevs.

I didn’t reunify the country in one post. Just the parts dominated by ethnic Russians. There is political opposition in the regions whose main demographic isn’t Russian. Which poses a problem for the government in Moscow who views it as de jure subject territory.