1906: Alternative Divergence [AH][OOC-DEAD]

[The Traansval]

Evening

[Tracian Empire]

Evening

Hello there

[The Traansval]

Evening

Hello there

General Kenobi

[Benuty]

So, I am just curious if my application still needs anything?

[Tracian Empire]

So, I am just curious if my application still needs anything?

I will be reviewing it tonight, as always, my apologies for the delay. Having an entire OP board can't unfortunately compensate for most of its members being busy.

[Tracian Empire]

Hello there

General Kenobi

Nice

The world is unfortunately kinda full, but is there anything you'd be interested in?

[Nea Byzantia]

General Kenobi

Nice

The world is unfortunately kinda full, but is there anything you'd be interested in?

You know what would be cool..If there was the option to be an international organization...a Corporation, Religious Movement, Terrorist Group, etc. That way, playing wouldn't be stuck merely to territorial claims, no?

I am putting this out there as an idea to all our Venerable OPs and Co-Ops.

[The Traansval]

Reservation

Nation Name: Morocco
Territory: Modern day Morocco and Western Saharra
#AltDiv (do not delete this, it's for keeping track of the apps)
*Note: Reservations will last for 72 hours. The OP board reserves the right to be subjective in regards to accepting reservations.

General Kenobi

Nice

The world is unfortunately kinda full, but is there anything you'd be interested in?

I figured I'd delve into Morocco, it was either that or something in South Africa. Not exactly certain what path I'll take for an alternate Morocco but probably some form which allows for resistance against colonial powers.

[Tracian Empire]

Nice

The world is unfortunately kinda full, but is there anything you'd be interested in?

You know what would be cool..If there was the option to be an international organization...a Corporation, Religious Movement, Terrorist Group, etc. That way, playing wouldn't be stuck merely to territorial claims, no?

I am putting this out there as an idea to all our Venerable OPs and Co-Ops.

And unfortunately I am here to tell you that the idea was shot down again and again throughout the iterations, mainly because of the difficulties inherent to playing such a thing and the issues in moderation that would be created from that.

I'll mention it again to the OP board but I doubt that Oscal's opinion changed.

[Nea Byzantia]

You know what would be cool..If there was the option to be an international organization...a Corporation, Religious Movement, Terrorist Group, etc. That way, playing wouldn't be stuck merely to territorial claims, no?

I am putting this out there as an idea to all our Venerable OPs and Co-Ops.

And unfortunately I am here to tell you that the idea was shot down again and again throughout the iterations, mainly because of the difficulties inherent to playing such a thing and the issues in moderation that would be created from that.

I'll mention it again to the OP board but I doubt that Oscal's opinion changed.

Oh...That's a shame. Cause it would definitely make things more interesting; and more realistic.

[Tracian Empire]

Reservation

Nation Name: Morocco
Territory: Modern day Morocco and Western Saharra
#AltDiv (do not delete this, it's for keeping track of the apps)
*Note: Reservations will last for 72 hours. The OP board reserves the right to be subjective in regards to accepting reservations.

I'm afraid that Morocco is a French colony. I'm sorry if the map seems confusing, the white color was requested specifically by the French player and it only occurred to me a few days ago that the standard Victoria 2 map used by most roleplays uses white for the blank provinces.

As always, if the French player would be willing to give that up to you that could happen, but I doubt that it will - France is in a precarious position and it needs all of her colonies, so I could understand a refusal.

[Tracian Empire]

And unfortunately I am here to tell you that the idea was shot down again and again throughout the iterations, mainly because of the difficulties inherent to playing such a thing and the issues in moderation that would be created from that.

I'll mention it again to the OP board but I doubt that Oscal's opinion changed.

Oh...That's a shame. Cause it would definitely make things more interesting; and more realistic.

And more difficult, since playing such an organization could lead to a lot of issues.

[The Traansval]

Reservation

Nation Name: Morocco
Territory: Modern day Morocco and Western Saharra
#AltDiv (do not delete this, it's for keeping track of the apps)
*Note: Reservations will last for 72 hours. The OP board reserves the right to be subjective in regards to accepting reservations.

I'm afraid that Morocco is a French colony. I'm sorry if the map seems confusing, the white color was requested specifically by the French player and it only occurred to me a few days ago that the standard Victoria 2 map used by most roleplays uses white for the blank provinces.

As always, if the French player would be willing to give that up to you that could happen, but I doubt that it will - France is in a precarious position and it needs all of her colonies, so I could understand a refusal.

Wait, the white is France? Oof. Yeah thats incredibly confusing lmao.

[Tracian Empire]

I'm afraid that Morocco is a French colony. I'm sorry if the map seems confusing, the white color was requested specifically by the French player and it only occurred to me a few days ago that the standard Victoria 2 map used by most roleplays uses white for the blank provinces.

As always, if the French player would be willing to give that up to you that could happen, but I doubt that it will - France is in a precarious position and it needs all of her colonies, so I could understand a refusal.

Wait, the white is France? Oof. Yeah thats incredibly confusing lmao.

Our map starts with light gray as the color of all provinces, and we've been using that for several iterations that's why I completely forgot about the colors, something that I will try to fix in the next iteration of the map.

[Nea Byzantia]

Oh...That's a shame. Cause it would definitely make things more interesting; and more realistic.

And more difficult, since playing such an organization could lead to a lot of issues.

Are there any "States within States"? Like a Vatican or anything?

[Reverend Norv]

Reservation

Nation Name: Morocco
Territory: Modern day Morocco and Western Saharra
#AltDiv (do not delete this, it's for keeping track of the apps)
*Note: Reservations will last for 72 hours. The OP board reserves the right to be subjective in regards to accepting reservations.

I'm afraid that Morocco is a French colony. I'm sorry if the map seems confusing, the white color was requested specifically by the French player and it only occurred to me a few days ago that the standard Victoria 2 map used by most roleplays uses white for the blank provinces.

As always, if the French player would be willing to give that up to you that could happen, but I doubt that it will - France is in a precarious position and it needs all of her colonies, so I could understand a refusal.

I'd be willing to negotiate it. France is indeed in a precarious position, but it's still possible that Morocco is somewhat more loosely held than the rest of France's colonial empire: maybe it's a sort of indirect rule exercised through local authorities and administrators, a bit like the Princely States in the British Raj, or the "veiled protectorate" in Egypt. That would leave a Moroccan government of sorts in place, with the ability to raise taxes, make law, and even levy its own troops. And it would create an interesting dynamic whereby the Moroccan authorities and the French authorities would be locked in an uneasy, codependent dance: neither certain of its own survival without the other, but neither entirely able to trust the other either.

[Tracian Empire]

And more difficult, since playing such an organization could lead to a lot of issues.

Are there any "States within States"? Like a Vatican or anything?

As before, it's up to the players.

I doubt that the Vatican specifically would exist, considering that the Pope has been under the influence of the Western Roman Emperor for centuries here. If willing, people could potentially give up territory though - as an example, my Crimea was controlled by a protectorate Principality of Taurica for the first two iterations of this roleplay.

[Reverend Norv]

Also, if the white is all that confusing, feel free to change it to anything that works; my aesthetic preferences are far less important than the legibility of the map.

[The Traansval]

I'm afraid that Morocco is a French colony. I'm sorry if the map seems confusing, the white color was requested specifically by the French player and it only occurred to me a few days ago that the standard Victoria 2 map used by most roleplays uses white for the blank provinces.

As always, if the French player would be willing to give that up to you that could happen, but I doubt that it will - France is in a precarious position and it needs all of her colonies, so I could understand a refusal.

I'd be willing to negotiate it. France is indeed in a precarious position, but it's still possible that Morocco is somewhat more loosely held than the rest of France's colonial empire: maybe it's a sort of indirect rule exercised through local authorities and administrators, a bit like the Princely States in the British Raj, or the "veiled protectorate" in Egypt. That would leave a Moroccan government of sorts in place, with the ability to raise taxes, make law, and even levy its own troops. And it would create an interesting dynamic whereby the Moroccan authorities and the French authorities would be locked in an uneasy, codependent dance: neither certain of its own survival without the other, but neither entirely able to trust the other either.

I'd be willing to play as Protectorate Morocco

Also, if the white is all that confusing, feel free to change it to anything that works; my aesthetic preferences are far less important than the legibility of the map.

I think the whites only confusing until its explained. A legend to go with the map could help a bit but I think its a minor point that doesn't really nessecitate changing the whole map.

[Reverend Norv]

I'd be willing to negotiate it. France is indeed in a precarious position, but it's still possible that Morocco is somewhat more loosely held than the rest of France's colonial empire: maybe it's a sort of indirect rule exercised through local authorities and administrators, a bit like the Princely States in the British Raj, or the "veiled protectorate" in Egypt. That would leave a Moroccan government of sorts in place, with the ability to raise taxes, make law, and even levy its own troops. And it would create an interesting dynamic whereby the Moroccan authorities and the French authorities would be locked in an uneasy, codependent dance: neither certain of its own survival without the other, but neither entirely able to trust the other either.

I'd be willing to play as Protectorate Morocco

Also, if the white is all that confusing, feel free to change it to anything that works; my aesthetic preferences are far less important than the legibility of the map.

I think the whites only confusing until its explained. A legend to go with the map could help a bit but I think its a minor point that doesn't really nessecitate changing the whole map.

Sounds good to me. Give my app a read-through, and then let me know what history for Morocco you find plausible in that context. I'm not going to be nitpicky here, so anything you come up with will probably be fine. This should be fun!

[Nea Byzantia]

Are there any "States within States"? Like a Vatican or anything?

As before, it's up to the players.

I doubt that the Vatican specifically would exist, considering that the Pope has been under the influence of the Western Roman Emperor for centuries here. If willing, people could potentially give up territory though - as an example, my Crimea was controlled by a protectorate Principality of Taurica for the first two iterations of this roleplay.

Would you be willing to do that with any of your territory? Would the ERE have any Protectorates or Client-Kings?

[The Traansval]

>The French are Protestant in this timeline

This is truly a cursed timeline

[Tracian Empire]

As before, it's up to the players.

I doubt that the Vatican specifically would exist, considering that the Pope has been under the influence of the Western Roman Emperor for centuries here. If willing, people could potentially give up territory though - as an example, my Crimea was controlled by a protectorate Principality of Taurica for the first two iterations of this roleplay.

Would you be willing to do that with any of your territory? Would the ERE have any Protectorates or Client-Kings?

Well, for me it's a bit complicated. The territory that I could the easiest explain would be Egypt, as Egypt is divided into three vaguely autonomous Exarchates, but that province is too valuable for me to risk potential rebellions or stuff like that, so I would be very hesitant. The southernmost exarchate maybe, but even then I'm afraid that I would be too picky with the app for that player to feel comfortable.

Taurica/Crimea is also potentially organized as an Exarchate, but it's too small to do much, that was the main reason for why the player of that Principality there abandoned the roleplay.

[Tracian Empire]

>The French are Protestant in this timeline

This is truly a cursed timeline

Any timeline in which the French exist is cursed

[Reverend Norv]

>The French are Protestant in this timeline

This is truly a cursed timeline

Hon hon hon.

Calvinist work ethic.

Doctrine of the Lesser Magistrates.

Puritan abolitionism.

Hon hon hon!