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by Finland SSR » Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:46 am
by Reverend Norv » Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:48 am
For really, I think that the poorest he that is in England hath a life to live as the greatest he. And therefore truly, Sir, I think it's clear that every man that is to live under a Government ought first by his own consent to put himself under that Government. And I do think that the poorest man in England is not at all bound in a strict sense to that Government that he hath not had a voice to put himself under.
Col. Thomas Rainsborough, Putney Debates, 1647
A God who let us prove His existence would be an idol.
Dietrich Bonhoeffer
by Pasong Tirad » Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:57 am
by Tracian Empire » Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:15 am
Pasong Tirad wrote:Feels nice to be non-Chalcedonian. A lot of the divergent history can be waved off as having little effect on your people.
by Pasong Tirad » Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:16 am
Tracian Empire wrote:Pasong Tirad wrote:Feels nice to be non-Chalcedonian. A lot of the divergent history can be waved off as having little effect on your people.
I'll have to talk with you a bit about that territory and the East Roman involvement in your civil war, because I'm changing a few things compared to last time. You seem to have seriously taken it chronologically, meanwhile I'm keeping the characters from the same time but just moving the chronology.
So in this Iteration, by the time of your civil war, my current Emperor's father would have been on the throne, which would explain why they took a bit of territory.
My current, barely crowned emperor would be a lot more open to the idea of trying to befriend Ethiopia.
by Reverend Norv » Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:16 am
Pasong Tirad wrote:Feels nice to be non-Chalcedonian. A lot of the divergent history can be waved off as having little effect on your people.
For really, I think that the poorest he that is in England hath a life to live as the greatest he. And therefore truly, Sir, I think it's clear that every man that is to live under a Government ought first by his own consent to put himself under that Government. And I do think that the poorest man in England is not at all bound in a strict sense to that Government that he hath not had a voice to put himself under.
Col. Thomas Rainsborough, Putney Debates, 1647
A God who let us prove His existence would be an idol.
Dietrich Bonhoeffer
by Tracian Empire » Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:20 am
Pasong Tirad wrote:Tracian Empire wrote:I'll have to talk with you a bit about that territory and the East Roman involvement in your civil war, because I'm changing a few things compared to last time. You seem to have seriously taken it chronologically, meanwhile I'm keeping the characters from the same time but just moving the chronology.
So in this Iteration, by the time of your civil war, my current Emperor's father would have been on the throne, which would explain why they took a bit of territory.
My current, barely crowned emperor would be a lot more open to the idea of trying to befriend Ethiopia.
Alright. I'll make necessary edits. Ethiopia losing a war with the ERE sounds fine.
by Kamchakta » Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:35 am
by Kamchakta » Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:36 am
Tracian Empire wrote:Kamchakta wrote:Well, don't worry. I am making Portugal a Roman Catholic Nation. So they still exist in this time period
BTW, Is the Western Roman Empire Catholic or Orthodox? Or do they still worship the Roman/Greek Gods?
There is still a very small pagan minority in the ERE a few thousands, not sure about the WRE.
But the WRE is clearly Catholic, just as the ERE is clearly Orthodox, with both churches in communion in the Greater Chalcedonian Church.
by The Felan Federation » Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:37 am
Tracian Empire wrote:Pasong Tirad wrote:Feels nice to be non-Chalcedonian. A lot of the divergent history can be waved off as having little effect on your people.
I'll have to talk with you a bit about that territory and the East Roman involvement in your civil war, because I'm changing a few things compared to last time. You seem to have seriously taken it chronologically, meanwhile I'm keeping the characters from the same time but just moving the chronology.
So in this Iteration, by the time of your civil war, my current Emperor's father would have been on the throne, which would explain why they took a bit of territory - the previous emperor was a lot more aggressive.
My current, barely crowned emperor(who was my emperor in the last iteration) would be a lot more open to the idea of trying to befriend Ethiopia.
by Tracian Empire » Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:07 am
The Felan Federation wrote:Tracian Empire wrote:I'll have to talk with you a bit about that territory and the East Roman involvement in your civil war, because I'm changing a few things compared to last time. You seem to have seriously taken it chronologically, meanwhile I'm keeping the characters from the same time but just moving the chronology.
So in this Iteration, by the time of your civil war, my current Emperor's father would have been on the throne, which would explain why they took a bit of territory - the previous emperor was a lot more aggressive.
My current, barely crowned emperor(who was my emperor in the last iteration) would be a lot more open to the idea of trying to befriend Ethiopia.
Was my reservation for the Swedish Empire accepted?
I noticed my reservation on the list yet not posted by the GM. So are things good or do I need to edit something?
by Tracian Empire » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:24 am
The Felan Federation wrote:Reservation
Nation Name: Swedish Empire
Territory: Sweden, Norway. Ghana, Togo, Venezuela ( colonies).
#AltDiv (do not delete this, it's for keeping track of the apps)
*Note: Reservations will last for 72 hours. The OP board reserves the right to be subjective in regards to accepting reservations.
Edited. But I still want to claim Finland perhaps from Rus.
by Finland SSR » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:47 am
Reverend Norv wrote:Pasong Tirad wrote:Feels nice to be non-Chalcedonian. A lot of the divergent history can be waved off as having little effect on your people.
I see opportunities for strategic cooperation between France and Ethiopia. Ethiopia can threaten the ERE's exposed southern flank in a way that France cannot. Meanwhile, if Breton colonialists cause any problems, France can likely roll over their homeland in a month. Ethiopia also needs military modernization, and France probably has the most modern army in the world; meanwhile, France needs export markets for its manufactured goods, since a lot of Europe is presumably very cautious about trading with the Commonwealth, and Ethiopia has millions of people ready to buy sewing machines and cast-iron kitchen stoves and whatnot.
by Reverend Norv » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:52 am
Finland SSR wrote:Reverend Norv wrote:
I see opportunities for strategic cooperation between France and Ethiopia. Ethiopia can threaten the ERE's exposed southern flank in a way that France cannot. Meanwhile, if Breton colonialists cause any problems, France can likely roll over their homeland in a month. Ethiopia also needs military modernization, and France probably has the most modern army in the world; meanwhile, France needs export markets for its manufactured goods, since a lot of Europe is presumably very cautious about trading with the Commonwealth, and Ethiopia has millions of people ready to buy sewing machines and cast-iron kitchen stoves and whatnot.
France would need a month to roll over a small peninsula with the population of a Paris suburb? If they've gotten so weak, then there is no better time to strike than now!
For really, I think that the poorest he that is in England hath a life to live as the greatest he. And therefore truly, Sir, I think it's clear that every man that is to live under a Government ought first by his own consent to put himself under that Government. And I do think that the poorest man in England is not at all bound in a strict sense to that Government that he hath not had a voice to put himself under.
Col. Thomas Rainsborough, Putney Debates, 1647
A God who let us prove His existence would be an idol.
Dietrich Bonhoeffer
by Finland SSR » Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:00 am
Reverend Norv wrote:Finland SSR wrote:France would need a month to roll over a small peninsula with the population of a Paris suburb? If they've gotten so weak, then there is no better time to strike than now!
I mean, Brittany has been living in the shadow of the Commonwealth for centuries and somehow stayed independent. I figure they are probably better prepared for invasion than anybody in Europe. It doesn’t due to underestimate a cornered rat - no offense intended.
by Reverend Norv » Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:46 am
Finland SSR wrote:Reverend Norv wrote:
I mean, Brittany has been living in the shadow of the Commonwealth for centuries and somehow stayed independent. I figure they are probably better prepared for invasion than anybody in Europe. It doesn’t due to underestimate a cornered rat - no offense intended.
I can see that. But then again, it is still a peninsula with little natural defenses (some hills, but nothing on the level of, say, Switzerland), which also has to keep a majority of its army offshore to maintain an empire twenty times larger than their homeland population. Meanwhile, France boasts one of the most modern and largest militaries in Europe and, presumably, keeps most of it in their homeland instead of the Indies - ultimately, I feel like that would be the deciding factor in any Breton-French war, unless Brittany had prep time to move the army it's spread across the world back home, which would, presumably, not be good for the stability of their colonies.
For really, I think that the poorest he that is in England hath a life to live as the greatest he. And therefore truly, Sir, I think it's clear that every man that is to live under a Government ought first by his own consent to put himself under that Government. And I do think that the poorest man in England is not at all bound in a strict sense to that Government that he hath not had a voice to put himself under.
Col. Thomas Rainsborough, Putney Debates, 1647
A God who let us prove His existence would be an idol.
Dietrich Bonhoeffer
by Tracian Empire » Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:19 am
Reverend Norv wrote:Finland SSR wrote:I can see that. But then again, it is still a peninsula with little natural defenses (some hills, but nothing on the level of, say, Switzerland), which also has to keep a majority of its army offshore to maintain an empire twenty times larger than their homeland population. Meanwhile, France boasts one of the most modern and largest militaries in Europe and, presumably, keeps most of it in their homeland instead of the Indies - ultimately, I feel like that would be the deciding factor in any Breton-French war, unless Brittany had prep time to move the army it's spread across the world back home, which would, presumably, not be good for the stability of their colonies.
Oh, sure. Like I said, I’m sure France could roll over Brittany in a month. I just suspect it would be an unexpectedly stiff, painful fight given the relative size of the participants.
by SCP Institution » Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:25 am
by Tracian Empire » Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:27 am
Reverend Norv wrote:Pasong Tirad wrote:Feels nice to be non-Chalcedonian. A lot of the divergent history can be waved off as having little effect on your people.
I see opportunities for strategic cooperation between France and Ethiopia. Ethiopia can threaten the ERE's exposed southern flank in a way that France cannot. Meanwhile, if Breton colonialists cause any problems, France can likely roll over their homeland in a month. Ethiopia also needs military modernization, and France probably has the most modern army in the world; meanwhile, France needs export markets for its manufactured goods, since a lot of Europe is presumably very cautious about trading with the Commonwealth, and Ethiopia has millions of people ready to buy sewing machines and cast-iron kitchen stoves and whatnot.
by Finland SSR » Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:27 am
Tracian Empire wrote:Reverend Norv wrote:
Oh, sure. Like I said, I’m sure France could roll over Brittany in a month. I just suspect it would be an unexpectedly stiff, painful fight given the relative size of the participants.
Case in which Brittany could potentially have alliances with most of France's neighbors, ensuring that any Breton-French War could have bigger repercussions for France
SCP Institution wrote:Reservation
Nation Name : The Dutch Consortium.
Territory : Entire Indian Subcontinent, Myanmar, with the rest of Australia and New Zealand.
#AltDiv (do not delete this, it's for keeping track of the apps)
*Note: Reservations will last for 72 hours. The OP board reserves the right to be subjective in regards to accepting reservations.
Make profits not war !
by Tracian Empire » Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:28 am
SCP Institution wrote:Reservation
Nation Name : The Dutch Consortium.
Territory : Entire Indian Subcontinent, Myanmar, with the rest of Australia and New Zealand.
#AltDiv (do not delete this, it's for keeping track of the apps)
*Note: Reservations will last for 72 hours. The OP board reserves the right to be subjective in regards to accepting reservations.
Make profits not war !
by Reverend Norv » Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:28 am
Tracian Empire wrote:Reverend Norv wrote:
Oh, sure. Like I said, I’m sure France could roll over Brittany in a month. I just suspect it would be an unexpectedly stiff, painful fight given the relative size of the participants.
Case in which Brittany could potentially have alliances with most of France's neighbors, ensuring that any Breton-French War could have bigger repercussions for France
For really, I think that the poorest he that is in England hath a life to live as the greatest he. And therefore truly, Sir, I think it's clear that every man that is to live under a Government ought first by his own consent to put himself under that Government. And I do think that the poorest man in England is not at all bound in a strict sense to that Government that he hath not had a voice to put himself under.
Col. Thomas Rainsborough, Putney Debates, 1647
A God who let us prove His existence would be an idol.
Dietrich Bonhoeffer
by The Felan Federation » Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:29 am
Tracian Empire wrote:The Felan Federation wrote:Reservation
Nation Name: Swedish Empire
Territory: Sweden, Norway. Ghana, Togo, Venezuela ( colonies).
#AltDiv (do not delete this, it's for keeping track of the apps)
*Note: Reservations will last for 72 hours. The OP board reserves the right to be subjective in regards to accepting reservations.
Edited. But I still want to claim Finland perhaps from Rus.
I can accept Sweden and Norway - I'm not sure what the situation regarding colonies is, South America especially seems to be a mess. Someone will take a proper look at and clear all the reservations, if you somehow lose any of the colonies here you will be compensated with others.
As for Finland, it belongs to the Rus, it's totally up to Benuty. If he wishes to give it to you, then yes, but I could understand very well why he wouldn't.
by Tracian Empire » Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:29 am
by Reverend Norv » Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:36 am
Tracian Empire wrote:Finland SSR wrote:I would like to officially found the "screw France" alliance. Who's in?
The ERE would like to enter the "keep France away from attacking random islands in the Mediterranean"
Also, in terms of nomenclature, the proper short name for the ERE would be Romania, but I feel weird using it, for obvious reasons
For really, I think that the poorest he that is in England hath a life to live as the greatest he. And therefore truly, Sir, I think it's clear that every man that is to live under a Government ought first by his own consent to put himself under that Government. And I do think that the poorest man in England is not at all bound in a strict sense to that Government that he hath not had a voice to put himself under.
Col. Thomas Rainsborough, Putney Debates, 1647
A God who let us prove His existence would be an idol.
Dietrich Bonhoeffer
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