United Earth: Political RP [OOC]

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

We didn't merge, we are in an association, so am I back in the coalition????

As long as the WLIR is not near the government at all.

Fine. Go ahead. We'd be willing to stay out of the government, if only to tear you a new one.

[Greater Liverpool]

No I will call off the Coalition and it will just be me and the greens if need be.

Describe your problem with us. It's not like we're burning the government building down.

YOU.
WANT.
A.
VIOLENT.
REVOLUTION.

WE.
DO.
NOT.
WANT.
A.
VIOLENT.
REVOLUTION.

[Aureumterra]

Also I would think that there would be a split in the southpaw party considering that this would have to be an executive decision and I am guessing that there are many of those that would want to be in government.

We didn't merge, we are in an association, so am I back in the coalition????

So essentially the coalition is now extended to the WLIR

Yeah, no matter which way it goes, GOP is still going to push impeachment for voter dishonesty

No I will call off the Coalition and it will just be me and the greens if need be.

Describe your problem with us. It's not like we're burning the government building down.

You’ll burn corporate buildings down, and then the government building

No seriously though, I don’t think the ruling coalition of the first democratic elections after 100 years should be associated with far left anarchism

[Taypinum]

We didn't merge, we are in an association, so am I back in the coalition????

So essentially the coalition is now extended to the WLIR

Yeah, no matter which way it goes, GOP is still going to push impeachment for voter dishonesty

Describe your problem with us. It's not like we're burning the government building down.

You’ll burn corporate buildings down, and then the government building

No seriously though, I don’t think the ruling coalition of the first democratic elections after 100 years should be associated with far left anarchism

Can I make it explicitly clear, we are not inviting the WLIR into the government. Southpaw has a choice, abandon the WLIR and join the government, or occupy the opposition benches.

[Granluras]

So is United Earth like the EU? In which there’s a supranational government coextant with semi-sovereign national government?

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

Describe your problem with us. It's not like we're burning the government building down.

YOU.
WANT.
A.
VIOLENT.
REVOLUTION.

WE.
DO.
NOT.
WANT.
A.
VIOLENT.
REVOLUTION.

Is it not true that the existence of the state creates violence on its own? The enforcement of your law, or barbarism as it ought to be called, creates unnecessary violence. All your irrational ideology creates laws that aren't necessary and yet unnecessarily impeach on people's freedoms while doing so. If you are against violence, then remove the state peacefully. We don't want a violent revolution. We want to win an election and then do the revolution. Your police and your military are the weapons by which the people are oppressed. Is it not true the police kills more people than murderers do? Is it not true that the state has historically been an institution of mass violence and is the organ by which atrocities against humanities are committed? I say again, if you are truly against violence, then remove the state.

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

We didn't merge, we are in an association, so am I back in the coalition????

So essentially the coalition is now extended to the WLIR

Yeah, no matter which way it goes, GOP is still going to push impeachment for voter dishonesty

Describe your problem with us. It's not like we're burning the government building down.

You’ll burn corporate buildings down, and then the government building

No seriously though, I don’t think the ruling coalition of the first democratic elections after 100 years should be associated with far left anarchism

We have fought for democracy since our inception. We stood during the French revolution and fought. We resisted against the monarchies of Europe, against the Soviet dictatorship. We resisted against the Contras and COINTELPRO. And yet we're the ones who are against democracy?

[Greater Liverpool]

YOU.
WANT.
A.
VIOLENT.
REVOLUTION.

WE.
DO.
NOT.
WANT.
A.
VIOLENT.
REVOLUTION.

Is it not true that the existence of the state creates violence on its own? The enforcement of your law, or barbarism as it ought to be called, creates unnecessary violence. All your irrational ideology creates laws that aren't necessary and yet unnecessarily impeach on people's freedoms while doing so. If you are against violence, then remove the state peacefully. We don't want a violent revolution. We want to win an election and then do the revolution. Your police and your military are the weapons by which the people are oppressed. Is it not true the police kills more people than murderers do? Is it not true that the state has historically been an institution of mass violence and is the organ by which atrocities against humanities are committed? I say again, if you are truly against violence, then remove the state.

But that is the thing you didn't win the election ye didn't even come close so according your own beliefs the you do not have the mandate and such should not be in government.

[Granluras]

YOU.
WANT.
A.
VIOLENT.
REVOLUTION.

WE.
DO.
NOT.
WANT.
A.
VIOLENT.
REVOLUTION.

Is it not true that the existence of the state creates violence on its own? The enforcement of your law, or barbarism as it ought to be called, creates unnecessary violence. All your irrational ideology creates laws that aren't necessary and yet unnecessarily impeach on people's freedoms while doing so. If you are against violence, then remove the state peacefully. We don't want a violent revolution. We want to win an election and then do the revolution. Your police and your military are the weapons by which the people are oppressed. Is it not true the police kills more people than murderers do? Is it not true that the state has historically been an institution of mass violence and is the organ by which atrocities against humanities are committed? I say again, if you are truly against violence, then remove the state.

Man if this is supposed to be ironic political satire you could go far in the world of satire.

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

I don't know why I just started talking like I'm in IC lol

[Greater Liverpool]

No offence WCC just shut up for once. This is a goddamn nationstates Political RP where we have some fun if you not going to be nice to people and try to claim that you are morally Superior to the people in this RP then just leave and go and do real politics cause in my liverpool language "I just can't be arsed with yer"

[Aureumterra]

So is United Earth like the EU? In which there’s a supranational government coextant with semi-sovereign national government?

I’d say more like the US, it’s a federation, not a confederation

EDIT: It’s also one country, think of the regions as provinces

[Taypinum]

I don't know why I just started talking like I'm in IC lol

I was beginning to wonder haha

[Granluras]

No offence WCC just shut up for once. This is a goddamn nationstates Political RP where we have some fun if you not going to be nice to people and try to claim that you are morally Superior to the people in this RP then just leave and go and do real politics cause in my liverpool language "I just can't be arsed with yer"

Wish I could like forum posts

[Granluras]

So is United Earth like the EU? In which there’s a supranational government coextant with semi-sovereign national government?

I’d say more like the US, it’s a federation, not a confederation

EDIT: It’s also one country, think of the regions as provinces

So I’m right

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

No offence WCC just shut up for once. This is a goddamn nationstates Political RP where we have some fun if you not going to be nice to people and try to claim that you are morally Superior to the people in this RP then just leave and go and do real politics cause in my liverpool language "I just can't be arsed with yer"

I mean, we kind of carried over the politics over here. Also, aren't you trying to do that too?

EDIT: Also, I do intend upon doing real politics, I use RPs like these as sort of training if you put it that way.

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

I don't know why I just started talking like I'm in IC lol

I was beginning to wonder haha

Yeah, I think we spilled the IC into the OOC.

[Greater Liverpool]

No offence WCC just shut up for once. This is a goddamn nationstates Political RP where we have some fun if you not going to be nice to people and try to claim that you are morally Superior to the people in this RP then just leave and go and do real politics cause in my liverpool language "I just can't be arsed with yer"

I mean, we kind of carried over the politics over here. Also, aren't you trying to do that too?

No I was trying to get across to you why it would not make sense for my party to be associated with yours.

[Aureumterra]

I’d say more like the US, it’s a federation, not a confederation

EDIT: It’s also one country, think of the regions as provinces

So I’m right

Are you apping?

[Arkhastok]

Yes, essentially a party-list system if I understand it correctly

Excuse me, OP, how do I conduct opposition research and find dirt on my enemies? Because oh boy I want to get to the darker side of politics.

Well, not much way you can do that unless you look for flaws in their policies or campaigns. In terms of finding corruption or framing, that's again an IC thing and if someone just makes it up then it would be unreasonable

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

I mean, we kind of carried over the politics over here. Also, aren't you trying to do that too?

No I was trying to get across to you why it would not make sense for my party to be associated with yours.

I mean, I have no course to victory apart from being an aggressive populist. Hey, I tried being nice, but people have to have two sides. So remember: if I ever sound too violent or angry in IC, it's all just a strategy.

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

You know what, I'm getting annoyed. Can we just have our Deltaist-Green-Southpaw government already? I'm itching to fight someone, this time in IC.

[Aureumterra]

Posted IC statement

[Azlaake]

Opposition Leader Guðni Jóhannesson Official Statement
It has alarmed me that the Southpaw party would form a Party Association, now called the Party of the United Left, with the far left WLIR. The Southpaws always ran on a platform of partial private industry, while they have merged into association with party that openly calls for the destruction of private industry. This has been a betrayal, more than anything, to the voters that voted for the Southpaw party on their platform, which they quickly changed after their formation of coalition. Aligning themselves with the far left, and to be frank, violent left, is nothing but a full on betrayal of their voter base. Therefore, I am looking, with my fellow party members, to push impeachment against seats held by the Southpaw party on the basis of voter dishonesty. I shall be addressing parliament regarding this when we make our party’s decision final.

It's only an association not a merge, we still hold our party's views

[Aureumterra]

You know what, I'm getting annoyed. Can we just have our Deltaist-Green-Southpaw government already? I'm itching to fight someone, this time in IC.

This government cannot form with your merger association, but the D-G will get a minority government nevertheless