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Postby Chinniwana » Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:32 am

Ruskland-Preuben wrote:Sunni? More like shitty haha epic dab.
Time to play as a CHAD IBADI is that okay OP?


Yes an Ibadi Caliphate/State is 100% Acceptable.

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Postby Chinniwana » Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:44 am

The Black Party wrote:
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Capital cities aren't really going to matter too much. Obviously I expect you to mention your Capital cities when you RP as your leaders learning about various things (mostly wars), but they aren't going to be super important. The real focus of this RP is mostly Combat and International Politics, not really internal politics (although certain events will lead to internal politics).

I wasnt really opting to make capital cities for the purpose of internal politics, but don't ya' think having "key" cities that are central to a nation morally and econmically will be important for medieval combat?


While they will be important morally, I don't think losing Capital cities will be so important that nations just completely collapse. A lot of nations constantly lost their capital cities at around this time and ended up continuing.

Vrijstaat Limburg wrote:I wanted to make a Saxon nation, but the Northern Empire already literally owns all of Brandenburg, western Prussia, Silesia and Saxony :(

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Nation Name: The Archdiocese of Bamberg / das Erzbistum Bamberg
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Reserved.

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Postby The Black Party » Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:49 am

Chinniwana wrote:
The Black Party wrote:I wasnt really opting to make capital cities for the purpose of internal politics, but don't ya' think having "key" cities that are central to a nation morally and econmically will be important for medieval combat?


While they will be important morally, I don't think losing Capital cities will be so important that nations just completely collapse. A lot of nations constantly lost their capital cities at around this time and ended up continuing.

Hopefully losing a city won't result in any nations capitulation, but I still think it would be important to note the "hubs" of a country since everyone has them. The Roman Empire probably wouldn't fall if Rome fell (and it didn't when it did), but losing such a city should have some effect greater then losing just some far out outpost or a few miles of your border.

Plus, that way we can form grand sieges and central assaults for warfare, say the siege of key cities such as Jerusalem or Constantinople, both of which seemingly more important then the siege of Antioch or some other smaller city that fills a country.

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ew extra history? more like

more like extra bad

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Postby Polish Prussian Commonwealth » Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:16 am

NS Name: Polish-Prussian Commonwealth
Nation Name: Bavaria
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Postby Chinniwana » Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:30 am

Polish Prussian Commonwealth wrote:NS Name: Polish-Prussian Commonwealth
Nation Name: Bavaria
Territory: E


Reserved.

The Black Party wrote:Hopefully losing a city won't result in any nations capitulation, but I still think it would be important to note the "hubs" of a country since everyone has them. The Roman Empire probably wouldn't fall if Rome fell (and it didn't when it did), but losing such a city should have some effect greater then losing just some far out outpost or a few miles of your border.


That's true. That's something I will consider when the Campaign launches.

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Postby Ruskland-Preuben » Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:35 am

NS Name: Ruskland-Preuben
Official Nation Name:
Arabian: Alkhilafat Al'iibadia/الخلافة الإباضية
English: The Ibadi Caliphate
Berber: Something
Unofficial Nation Names: ^
Territory:
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Leader: Asfar Omar Yacoub Aḥdiyen/Al-Ahdid/Ahdid
Government Style: Iqta
Ethnic Groups: Libyan, Algerian, and Tunisian Arabic, not to mention a Berber ruling class, and a couple of Christians in the coastal towns.
Religions: 58% Ibadi, 32% Sunni, 5% Shia, 3% Other forms of Islam, 2% Other Faiths
Culture: The culture of the Caliphate is a melting pot of sorts, with a Berber minority from the south ruling over much numerous African Arabs, which in turn have different subcategories. This has caused the Caliph of this nation to adapt and form a culturally and religiously open society, well, slightly open that is. Christians coming from Sicily and the good relations between them and the Caliphate has also contributed to this, although missionaries may only preach in areas designated for them. Ibadi missionaries on the other hand, roam the lands to convert Sunni and Shia people to the true faith, if not, they are tried and most likely imprisoned, at worst, executed.
History: This nation's history begins in the late 900s, where Ibadi Berber tribes in Fezzan began raids into Zirid controlled North Africa. Eventually, the Fatimids noticed their raids and joined the Zirids in repelling the constant raiders. All they got, however, was dust and blood in their mouths, any incursions were routed. This of course, was a massive blow to the Fatimids, and a unifying force for the Ibadi Berbers, who were united by Asfar Omar Yacoub Aḥdiyen, and the Zirids would revolt against them in 1048 after they lost Tunis. In retaliation, the Fatimids would send their Berber tributaries of Banu Hilal and Banu Sulaym. Seeing an opportunity, the united Berbers under Asfar would surge into Zirid territory, repelling the invading Fatimid Berber tributaries, and create a massive state in the Sahara. Naming it a holy war before he invaded, at its conclusion, he called for the formation of a Caliphate of the Ibadis under his rule, and they had no choice but to agree. Fast forward to today, the Caliph is an aged man that will die at any moment, but he still stands and speaks. His third son, Omar, will succeed him. Not to mention this man has proved himself to the Caliphate as a worthy successor.

All is well.
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Postby The Black Party » Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:37 am

Polish Prussian Commonwealth wrote:NS Name: Polish-Prussian Commonwealth
Nation Name: Bavaria
Territory: E

Why the frick is your location so zoomed in
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Postby The Black Party » Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:38 am

Chinniwana wrote:
The Black Party wrote:Hopefully losing a city won't result in any nations capitulation, but I still think it would be important to note the "hubs" of a country since everyone has them. The Roman Empire probably wouldn't fall if Rome fell (and it didn't when it did), but losing such a city should have some effect greater then losing just some far out outpost or a few miles of your border.


That's true. That's something I will consider when the Campaign launches.

Hopefully we can do something like HOI4, were multiple key cities of a nation needs to fall in order for the country to collapse, with the most morale effect coming from a capital city falling.
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Postby Nordschwaben » Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:57 am

The Black Party wrote:Hopefully we can do something like HOI4, were multiple key cities of a nation needs to fall in order for the country to collapse, with the most morale effect coming from a capital city falling.


Wouldn't something like CK2 or EU4's system be more suited to a medieval setting? It's not very realistic for a nation to suddenly collapse when a few cities are taken unless the nation is very small
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Postby The Black Party » Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:12 am

Nordschwaben wrote:
The Black Party wrote:Hopefully we can do something like HOI4, were multiple key cities of a nation needs to fall in order for the country to collapse, with the most morale effect coming from a capital city falling.


Wouldn't something like CK2 or EU4's system be more suited to a medieval setting? It's not very realistic for a nation to suddenly collapse when a few cities are taken unless the nation is very small

Sure, but I didn't mean a nation had to collapse if the key cities fell, but that it should be a minimum requirement for a nation to collapse.
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Postby The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune » Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:50 am

Ruskland-Preuben wrote:NS Name: Ruskland-Preuben
Official Nation Name:
Arabian: Alkhilafat Al'iibadia/الخلافة الإباضية
English: The Ibadi Caliphate
Berber: Something
Unofficial Nation Names: ^
Territory:
Leader: Asfar Omar Yacoub Aḥdiyen/Al-Ahdid/Ahdid
Government Style:
Ethnic Groups: (Very few Nations can be uniform Culturally)
Religions: (Very few Nations can be uniform Religiously)
Culture: (At least 1 Paragraph)
History: (At least 1 Paragraph)

Work In Progress pls reserve


Ooh, this actually gives some context for the Empire having Ibadi population.

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Postby The Black Party » Wed Mar 20, 2019 12:40 pm

Vrijstaat Limburg wrote:I wanted to make a Saxon nation, but the Northern Empire already literally owns all of Brandenburg, western Prussia, Silesia and Saxony :(

NS Name: Vrijstaat limburg
Nation Name: The Archdiocese of Bamberg / das Erzbistum Bamberg
Territory:

why is your land claim so weird lol
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Postby The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:43 pm

Would the Ibadi boi be interested in a potential pact/alliance?

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Postby Valtrona » Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:17 pm

NS Name: Valtrona
Nation Name: Kingdom of Georgia
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Postby Chinniwana » Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:36 pm

Valtrona wrote:NS Name: Valtrona
Nation Name: Kingdom of Georgia
Territory:
(Image)


Reserved. (There most likely goes my NPC Khurramite state. Oh well.)
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Postby Valtrona » Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:39 pm

Chinniwana wrote:
Valtrona wrote:NS Name: Valtrona
Nation Name: Kingdom of Georgia
Territory:
(Image)


Reserved. (There most likely goes my NPC Khurramite state. Oh well.)

Thank you, should be up in a couple hours or so. (I’m sorry, wanted to be somewhere different than the heart of Europe)

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Postby The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune » Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:40 pm

Chinniwana wrote:
Valtrona wrote:NS Name: Valtrona
Nation Name: Kingdom of Georgia
Territory:
(Image)


Reserved. (There most likely goes my NPC Khurramite state. Oh well.)


What is the state of NPC and Greece gonna be like. No reason.

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Postby Chinniwana » Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:50 pm

Valtrona wrote:Thank you, should be up in a couple hours or so. (I’m sorry, wanted to be somewhere different than the heart of Europe)

(It's cool, no worries.)

The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune wrote:What is the state of NPC and Greece gonna be like. No reason.

Greece is most likely in the same state it's in IRL; lost territory to Slavs in the North, lost territory to Muslims in the East, basically just holding on to most of Greece, Albania and western Anatolia. Don't know if the Seljuq's or a different group have Central Anatolia though.

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Postby The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune » Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:04 pm

Chinniwana wrote:
Valtrona wrote:Thank you, should be up in a couple hours or so. (I’m sorry, wanted to be somewhere different than the heart of Europe)

(It's cool, no worries.)

The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune wrote:What is the state of NPC and Greece gonna be like. No reason.

Greece is most likely in the same state it's in IRL; lost territory to Slavs in the North, lost territory to Muslims in the East, basically just holding on to most of Greece, Albania and western Anatolia. Don't know if the Seljuq's or a different group have Central Anatolia though.


Meant to ask about Italy as well there, but cool info. Sounds like reunification time to me.

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Postby Chinniwana » Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:13 pm

The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune wrote:Meant to ask about Italy as well there, but cool info. Sounds like reunification time to me.


Well, we know Sicily is there. The North is still probably divided between various Merchant Republics. Without a player Holy Roman Emperor, though, I don't know if there are 2 Popes, or if the main Pope (Urban II) has no rivals and is chilling in Rome (it will probably be the latter).

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Postby The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune » Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:15 pm

Chinniwana wrote:
The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune wrote:Meant to ask about Italy as well there, but cool info. Sounds like reunification time to me.


Well, we know Sicily is there. The North is still probably divided between various Merchant Republics. Without a player Holy Roman Emperor, though, I don't know if there are 2 Popes, or if the main Pope (Urban II) has no rivals and is chilling in Rome (it will probably be the latter).


Right... no rivals.

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Postby Chinniwana » Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:27 pm

The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune wrote:
Chinniwana wrote:
Well, we know Sicily is there. The North is still probably divided between various Merchant Republics. Without a player Holy Roman Emperor, though, I don't know if there are 2 Popes, or if the main Pope (Urban II) has no rivals and is chilling in Rome (it will probably be the latter).


Right... no rivals.

Only if you don't count the Pope and the Holy Roman Emperor.

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Postby Valtrona » Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:33 pm

NS Name: Valtrona
Official Nation Name: Kingdom of Georgia
Unofficial Nation Name: Georgia
Territory:
Image
Capital City: Kutaisi
Leader: King David IV
Government Style: Absolute Monarchy
Ethnic Groups: Georgian, Armenian, Persian, Azerbaijani, and Greek (not including dialects)
Religions: Orthodox Christianity (Dominant), Miaphysitism, Judaism, and Islam.

Culture: Georgian Monarchs, and as a result Georgian society, followed a policy of religious tolerance to religious minorities. Their Christian, Jewish, and Muslim subjects could feel safe. Medieval Georgia resembled Europe in many ways due to political and cultural influences from the Byzantine Empire. Georgian Culture and Language dominated society, as a unique blend of Georgian feudalism developed. They had basically the same social structures and economic organization, however power in Georgian feudalism was greatly unbalanced. Towns were too weak and often deprived of rights, feudal lords were too strong, and the church was subjugated to the Royal Crown and was politically less active.

History: Georgia was once divided into several small and independent nations all vying for control over the region. King Bagrat III succeeded in unifying the Georgian heartland by 1010. During this, he managed to balance the needs of the Byzantine and Muslim Empires and convincing them both to stay out of the Caucasus. This brilliant move of diplomatic motivation allowed for King Bagrat III to focus on unifying the Caucasus under Georgian rule. Yet, he unfortunately died in 1014. He was succeeded by King George I, who shared his father’s ambitions. He launched a surprisingly effective campaign against the Armenians, and conquered the area under Georgian rule. He reigned for decades until his death in 1027, when he was succeeded by Bagrat IV. King Bagrat IV continued the Georgian legacy of conquest when he lead a successful 101-day Siege of Baku and conquered Schirwan. The Kingdom of Georgia now stretched from the coasts of the Black Sea to the beaches of the Caspian Sea. King Bagrat IV died in 1072, finalizing a Kingdom that his family wanted to build over the centuries. King George II took over, and has continued his relatively peaceful rule over the Kingdom of Georgia. Yet, Georgia was surrounded by many enemies, and the King knew that peace was fragile, and it merely took a small disagreement to start a major war in the region.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:38 pm

Chinniwana wrote:
The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune wrote:
Right... no rivals.

Only if you don't count the Pope and the Holy Roman Emperor.

The Vicars of Peter and Christ, respectively. No biggy there.
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Postby Ruskland-Preuben » Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:58 pm

The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune wrote:Would the Ibadi boi be interested in a potential pact/alliance?

Perhaps
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