NationStates

Finland SSR wrote:

Chinniwana wrote:Alright, as I'm finalizing the list, this is what I've decided for the HRE. Now, considering there are so many itty bitty nations, and I'm not the best map maker, I've had to basically condense the HRE to the biggest States. This is what I have:

That's gonna be a lot of people to loot and raid.

The Black Party wrote:and/or key cities

Well I don't have cities either.

The Batavia wrote:So uh, I'm gonna pick Frane, but I think I'm having a little trouble with the Ruler, culture and history

Since the POD is 819, this scenario fits for establishing a French dominated HRE:

https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/ ... st-2535482

You can use it for your history.

The Batavia wrote:

Finland SSR wrote:That's gonna be a lot of people to loot and raid.


Well I don't have cities either.


Since the POD is 819, this scenario fits for establishing a French dominated HRE:

https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/ ... st-2535482

You can use it for your history.

Thanks m8

Fahran wrote:

Valtrona wrote:It would be great to expand my control over trade in the Black Sea, and Crimea is a perfect way to do this, but I don’t have any plans to actually attack anyone (YET).

Aaron III is not amused. Don't make him do punitive raids.

Nea Byzantia wrote:I was hoping to forge and alliance with you, the Bulgarians and Georgians to keep both the Muslims and the Catholics at bay...Just because Romanos IV invited them to help, doesn't mean he likes them (especially not the Normans).

The Black Party wrote:

Finland SSR wrote:Capitals weren't really a thing in the 11th century save for a few specific states like Byzantium.

and/or key cities

Nea Byzantia wrote:I was hoping to forge and alliance with you, the Bulgarians and Georgians to keep both the Muslims and the Catholics at bay...Just because Romanos IV invited them to help, doesn't mean he likes them (especially not the Normans).

Valtrona wrote:

Fahran wrote:Aaron III is not amused. Don't make him do punitive raids.

You can try, but we’ll see if it’ll work.

Nea Byzantia wrote:I was hoping to forge and alliance with you, the Bulgarians and Georgians to keep both the Muslims and the Catholics at bay...Just because Romanos IV invited them to help, doesn't mean he likes them (especially not the Normans).

As Georgia, I would be welcome to the idea of an alliance of sorts. Mainly against the Muslims to my south and east.

The Black Party wrote:and/or key cities

I edited my app so I have Kutaisi as the Georgian Capital, but this may change as the RP progresses.

Fahran wrote:

Nea Byzantia wrote:I was hoping to forge and alliance with you, the Bulgarians and Georgians to keep both the Muslims and the Catholics at bay...Just because Romanos IV invited them to help, doesn't mean he likes them (especially not the Normans).

Pursuant to the telegrams we exchanged, I'll make it canon that Sophia Khatun is a cousin or niece of Romanos IV. Aaron III would have a vested interest in propping up a genial and well-disposed Emperor in Constantinople for a multitude of reasons. First, he would have a deep-rooted distrust Frankish crusaders' intentions. Second, he has a marital alliance with Romanos and it's a matter of honor and realpolitik to preserve his rule. Third, the Byzantines historically would have been more accustomed to dealing with the slave trade - one of Crimea's chief sources of revenue. Fourth, Byzantium can serve as a counter-weight and intermediary between Georgia/Bulgaria and Crimea.

Nea Byzantia wrote:That's not even a question. I was thinking the same thing. Wanna screw over the Seljuqs from both ends?

Valtrona wrote:

Nea Byzantia wrote:That's not even a question. I was thinking the same thing. Wanna screw over the Seljuqs from both ends?

I would like to do that.

Strala wrote:So Op the byzantine player and I have comprimised and I'll keep the lands I resevered and I guess I'll be allied with the Byzantines. I'll edit my app to alter the history slightly

Nea Byzantia wrote:

Strala wrote:So Op the byzantine player and I have comprimised and I'll keep the lands I resevered and I guess I'll be allied with the Byzantines. I'll edit my app to alter the history slightly

I'll do the same if I need to.

And if anyone wants to play as a Serbian Principality, I'd be very open to a similar arrangement. Just putting that on record.

Strala wrote:

Nea Byzantia wrote:I'll do the same if I need to.

And if anyone wants to play as a Serbian Principality, I'd be very open to a similar arrangement. Just putting that on record.

If you want in the IC I can propose a marriage between a byzantine noble and Simeon or do it in my app

Finland SSR wrote:

Chinniwana wrote:Alright, as I'm finalizing the list, this is what I've decided for the HRE. Now, considering there are so many itty bitty nations, and I'm not the best map maker, I've had to basically condense the HRE to the biggest States. This is what I have:

That's gonna be a lot of people to loot and raid.

The Black Party wrote:and/or key cities

Well I don't have cities either.

The Batavia wrote:So uh, I'm gonna pick Frane, but I think I'm having a little trouble with the Ruler, culture and history

Since the POD is 819, this scenario fits for establishing a French dominated HRE:

https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/ ... st-2535482

You can use it for your history.

Nea Byzantia wrote:

Strala wrote:If you want in the IC I can propose a marriage between a byzantine noble and Simeon or do it in my app

Presumably such a marriage would've happened by now, as Romanos is in the 15th year of his reign since his restoration.

Chinniwana wrote:ACCEPTED STATES:
Barapam - England
Wawz - Romuva
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States - Cordoba
Deutschess Kaiserriech - Sweden
Black Party - The Northern Empire
Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune - Sicily
Crockerland - Osel
Valtarona - Georgia
Nordschwaben - Swabia
Finland SSR - Nalsha
Ruskland-Preuben - Al'iibadia
Greater Liverpool - Kara-Khanid

The Black Party wrote:who are you guys, are you guys all Mediterranean and Asian countries?

Fahran wrote:

The Black Party wrote:who are you guys, are you guys all Mediterranean and Asian countries?

I'm controlling the Khazar Khanate that's been reduced to a rump kingdom in the Crimea and the very tip of the North Caucasus.

The Black Party wrote:oh, okay, phew! I thought I was talking with important, chad European countries you know, the reaaaaaal countries

The Black Party wrote:

Fahran wrote:I'm controlling the Khazar Khanate that's been reduced to a rump kingdom in the Crimea and the very tip of the North Caucasus.

oh, okay, phew! I thought I was talking with important, chad European countries you know, the reaaaaaal countries

Nea Byzantia wrote:

The Black Party wrote:oh, okay, phew! I thought I was talking with important, chad European countries you know, the reaaaaaal countries

Byzantium is pretty important...its 1095, not 1204...certainly not 1453.

respect to Byzantium

Ruskland-Preuben wrote:Henlo frens, I hope you don’t mind.

The Black Party wrote:who are you guys, are you guys all Mediterranean and Asian countries?