ASOMAF (OOC/AH/Interwar/Dead/Signup)

[The Black Party]

I can't even dock and provide support because UAR didn't allow my troops to help or even sent a response so I'm just circling the Mediterranean

well he is on now so why don't you try asking him?

i'll put a post up detailing the effects of the surprise invasion, literally all of my battleplans have to be thrown out the window now

[Costa Fierro]

Can we have the actual equipment used by nations in 1964? The Conqueror heavy tank was never used in active service let alone given to the Jordanians.

In 1964, the Royal Jordanian Army would have had the following:
516 tanks (297 M48A1, 160 M47, 105 Centurion, 24 Charioteer)
370 armoured cars (240 Daimler Ferret, 130 Saladin)
400 armoured personnel carriers (150 Saracen, 250 M113)
36 tank destroyers (36 Archer)
90 anti-tank guns (90 17-pdr)
56 self-propelled howitzers (20 M44, 36 M52)
151 artillery pieces (25 M115, 18 M59, 108 25-pdr)

See here.

The air force would have had around 30-40 fighter aircraft composed of Hawker Hunter and de Havilland Vampires.

[Costa Fierro]

I'm not doing a surprise invasion if that's what you think




totally not doing that

honestly I dont care anymore because the UAR has been stalling for 48 hours without making a move, their only advantage of initial size is pretty much gone

I haven't been stalling, just do what you want to do.

[Eggistaan]

well he is on now so why don't you try asking him?

well tbh I'm not ready for battle either, I was planning on docking in the North of the UAR to give my forces some time to equip, and I'm still waiting on OP's permission to use special weapons.

Like tankettes?

[Eggistaan]

Can we have the actual equipment used by nations in 1964? The Conqueror heavy tank was never used in active service let alone given to the Jordanians.

In 1964, the Royal Jordanian Army would have had the following:
516 tanks (297 M48A1, 160 M47, 105 Centurion, 24 Charioteer)
370 armoured cars (240 Daimler Ferret, 130 Saladin)
400 armoured personnel carriers (150 Saracen, 250 M113)
36 tank destroyers (36 Archer)
90 anti-tank guns (90 17-pdr)
56 self-propelled howitzers (20 M44, 36 M52)
151 artillery pieces (25 M115, 18 M59, 108 25-pdr)

See here.

The air force would have had around 30-40 fighter aircraft composed of Hawker Hunter and de Havilland Vampires.

have you heard of something called alternate history, its quite fun dont you think. Especially when everyone plays along

[The Black Party]

well tbh I'm not ready for battle either, I was planning on docking in the North of the UAR to give my forces some time to equip, and I'm still waiting on OP's permission to use special weapons.

Like tankettes?

tankettes op

[The Black Party]

Responded to the invasion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jytEvJKrY4

[Costa Fierro]

Can we have the actual equipment used by nations in 1964? The Conqueror heavy tank was never used in active service let alone given to the Jordanians.

In 1964, the Royal Jordanian Army would have had the following:
516 tanks (297 M48A1, 160 M47, 105 Centurion, 24 Charioteer)
370 armoured cars (240 Daimler Ferret, 130 Saladin)
400 armoured personnel carriers (150 Saracen, 250 M113)
36 tank destroyers (36 Archer)
90 anti-tank guns (90 17-pdr)
56 self-propelled howitzers (20 M44, 36 M52)
151 artillery pieces (25 M115, 18 M59, 108 25-pdr)

See here.

The air force would have had around 30-40 fighter aircraft composed of Hawker Hunter and de Havilland Vampires.

have you heard of something called alternate history, its quite fun dont you think. Especially when everyone plays along

Yes, and alternate history doesn't mean Jordan ends up with heavy tanks.

[The Black Party]

Yes, and alternate history doesn't mean Jordan ends up with heavy tanks.

I don't really think the tank type makes a difference, unless it's a tankette, but I guess take it up with OP. For now, just go with it.

[Costa Fierro]

Yes, and alternate history doesn't mean Jordan ends up with heavy tanks.

I don't really think the tank type makes a difference, unless it's a tankette, but I guess take it up with OP. For now, just go with it.

I mean I've essentially said he has modern main battle tanks that are just as good, if not more effective, than the Conqueror. But no matter, they'll just be massive targets for UAR jets.

[The Black Party]

I don't really think the tank type makes a difference, unless it's a tankette, but I guess take it up with OP. For now, just go with it.

I mean I've essentially said he has modern main battle tanks that are just as good, if not more effective, than the Conqueror. But no matter, they'll just be massive targets for UAR jets.

Also considering that the Middle East is mostly open desert, with little to no cover, I think your air-superiority once re-established will be more then enough to balance a few Conquers or whatever.

[The Black Party]

Interesting proposal in the IC, though I doubt UoAS would sacrifice their own educators to teach Mormon curriculum.

[Costa Fierro]

I mean I've essentially said he has modern main battle tanks that are just as good, if not more effective, than the Conqueror. But no matter, they'll just be massive targets for UAR jets.

Also considering that the Middle East is mostly open desert, with little to no cover, I think your air-superiority once re-established will be more then enough to balance a few Conquers or whatever.

It won't be re-established. Jordan hasn't attacked air bases in Syria or Iraq so as far as I am concerned, the UAR's air force is intact. And given Jordan seems to be using WW2 aircraft, it should be a cakewalk.

[The Black Party]

Also considering that the Middle East is mostly open desert, with little to no cover, I think your air-superiority once re-established will be more then enough to balance a few Conquers or whatever.

It won't be re-established. Jordan hasn't attacked air bases in Syria or Iraq so as far as I am concerned, the UAR's air force is intact. And given Jordan seems to be using WW2 aircraft, it should be a cakewalk.

Yes but that's not to say Jordan still has a relatively in-tact airforce as well, and with French reinforcements coming in a few days, complimented by the Hashbrown's intial advancements, its going to be a much tougher war with greater strain on both nations.

[Costa Fierro]

It won't be re-established. Jordan hasn't attacked air bases in Syria or Iraq so as far as I am concerned, the UAR's air force is intact. And given Jordan seems to be using WW2 aircraft, it should be a cakewalk.

Yes but that's not to say Jordan still has a relatively in-tact airforce as well, and with French reinforcements coming in a few days, complimented by the Hashbrown's intial advancements, its going to be a much tougher war with greater strain on both nations.

There's a counter-attack taking place. Advancing on one axis opens the attack up to being outflanked. The UAR's plan for Jordan was to advance simultaneously. It will take a few days or weeks for the French assistance to arrive, but the AMX-30 is very lightly armoured thanks to the French simply giving up on up-armouring their tanks. It's thin enough that the T-34/85's could pen it.

Besides, the Soviets are also bringing their support so any French naval influence would be countered by the Soviets, as NATO doesn't exist, there's no reason why the Black Sea fleet couldn't arrive in the Mediterranean.

[Eggistaan]

have you heard of something called alternate history, its quite fun dont you think. Especially when everyone plays along

Yes, and alternate history doesn't mean Jordan ends up with heavy tanks.

You have 1,000 t55's

[Costa Fierro]

Yes, and alternate history doesn't mean Jordan ends up with heavy tanks.

You have 1,000 t55's

I have 400 T-54/55's.

[The National Dominion of Hungary]

Heyah Costa, did you see the Soviet message to the UAR?

[Castelia]

Sorry for not posting for quite some time now, people. Real life has caught up to me, and I just managed to finish sorting it out. I'll have a post up within 24 hours, I promise!

[The Frozen Forest]

Interesting proposal in the IC, though I doubt UoAS would sacrifice their own educators to teach Mormon curriculum.

-shrug- If they aren't up for it, i'm sure another nation would be=what the deal entails is basically the allowance of the Kingdom of Deseret to offer jobs to citizens in a foreign country, like the UoAS. No one would be being forced into coming over.

[The Black Party]

Yes but that's not to say Jordan still has a relatively in-tact airforce as well, and with French reinforcements coming in a few days, complimented by the Hashbrown's intial advancements, its going to be a much tougher war with greater strain on both nations.

There's a counter-attack taking place. Advancing on one axis opens the attack up to being outflanked. The UAR's plan for Jordan was to advance simultaneously. It will take a few days or weeks for the French assistance to arrive, but the AMX-30 is very lightly armoured thanks to the French simply giving up on up-armouring their tanks. It's thin enough that the T-34/85's could pen it.

Besides, the Soviets are also bringing their support so any French naval influence would be countered by the Soviets, as NATO doesn't exist, there's no reason why the Black Sea fleet couldn't arrive in the Mediterranean.

But you haven't responded to any foreign support offers. The French would be arriving any day now since they have a Mediterranean port.

Heyah Costa, did you see the Soviet message to the UAR?

[The Felan Federation]

There's a counter-attack taking place. Advancing on one axis opens the attack up to being outflanked. The UAR's plan for Jordan was to advance simultaneously. It will take a few days or weeks for the French assistance to arrive, but the AMX-30 is very lightly armoured thanks to the French simply giving up on up-armouring their tanks. It's thin enough that the T-34/85's could pen it.

Besides, the Soviets are also bringing their support so any French naval influence would be countered by the Soviets, as NATO doesn't exist, there's no reason why the Black Sea fleet couldn't arrive in the Mediterranean.

But you haven't responded to any foreign support offers. The French would be arriving any day now since they have a Mediterranean port.

Heyah Costa, did you see the Soviet message to the UAR?

Hey. Quebec. Wanna work together for trade and security purposes?

[Benuty]

Interesting proposal in the IC, though I doubt UoAS would sacrifice their own educators to teach Mormon curriculum.

-shrug- If they aren't up for it, i'm sure another nation would be=what the deal entails is basically the allowance of the Kingdom of Deseret to offer jobs to citizens in a foreign country, like the UoAS. No one would be being forced into coming over.

I will get a response up to it within some time.

That said the response will most likely be from a prominent government figure rather than the sitting president. Reconciliationists despite them being the smallest party in the block still have some sympathizers in the higher reins of government.

[The Black Party]

Hey. Quebec. Wanna work together for trade and security purposes?

What do you have in mind?

[The Black Party]

hey squad fam your boy's fielding this wunderwaffe as soon as the UAR conflict is over or whenever I can