New Civilizations ( OOC, Always Open, Reboot )

[Endem]

-stuff already answered-
If from now on Krystyn and Gdansk chief would present themselves during official events in their masks ( yes, they have masks when they need to operate with Czart units ), would wearing of mask become a trend that I would later evolve as a part of my civ's culture.

Please somebody tell me if it could work that way

[Ralnis]

Which is strange since I consider their cohesion somewhat better than mine and their military as strong as mine in quality but maybe I'm wrong. All they have fought are the Kurgan and they have copied tech from me where my people had fought several wars in six years and another war right after with Uruk being salty.

Sure - but your army are Sumerian levies, not exactly known for either cohesion or quality

True and once Uruk is defeated, I'm going to rectify that in Hope's of having a better army and navy.

[G-Tech Corporation]

-stuff already answered-
If from now on Krystyn and Gdansk chief would present themselves during official events in their masks ( yes, they have masks when they need to operate with Czart units ), would wearing of mask become a trend that I would later evolve as a part of my civ's culture.

Please somebody tell me if it could work that way

I mean, some of the other tribes might find you a bit weird. And culture will take time to evolve. But within reason, you do you boo in regards to your culture.

[Bortslovakia]

What's this I hear about a Chtulhu worshipping ck2 player building a naval power in the Aegean?

G we may need to purge Naxos with fire and explosives before he goes and murder incests his way into inheriting parts of our territory completely separated from his power base. I will not abide by this border gore in the making.

[G-Tech Corporation]

What's this I hear about a Chtulhu worshipping ck2 player building a naval power in the Aegean?

G we may need to purge Naxos with fire and explosives before he goes and murder incests his way into inheriting parts of our territory completely separated from his power base. I will not abide by this border gore in the making.

Pft, the Aegean is an issue for Axum and Oak. I'll fiddle while the Hall of Wisdom burns.

[Ralnis]

What's this I hear about a Chtulhu worshipping ck2 player building a naval power in the Aegean?

G we may need to purge Naxos with fire and explosives before he goes and murder incests his way into inheriting parts of our territory completely separated from his power base. I will not abide by this border gore in the making.

Naxos will be protected by the glory of the Seven.

[Bortslovakia]

What's this I hear about a Chtulhu worshipping ck2 player building a naval power in the Aegean?

G we may need to purge Naxos with fire and explosives before he goes and murder incests his way into inheriting parts of our territory completely separated from his power base. I will not abide by this border gore in the making.

Naxos will be protected by the glory of the Seven.

The Seven can't even protect Sumeria from itself. I'm not too worried.

[Ralnis]

Naxos will be protected by the glory of the Seven.

The Seven can't even protect Sumeria from itself. I'm not too worried.

Hey man, we're young and just stumbling into the world. Give us some years and you'll see us being more complete.

[UniversalCommons]

We have quietly been improving. Part of the reason for taking on the Illyrians was not just because of piracy, but because of ship building. The Illyrians built small fast boats which would allow for faster cargo transport. We essentially have had a long peace to develop our military unopposed. As we expand, we are also building new cities and roads with the expansion. This is why we are not expanding as fast as the Imperium. At this point, the question for us is would we be able to hire Imperium soldiers and mercenaries , Sumerian soldiers, and others to study and improve our tactics. From the beginning we have built the gymnasia and schools for combat. I am curious who they might have attracted, would we have warriors to add to the mixed martial arts of the Upright Way which at this point have absorbed Egyptian, Thracian, Sumerian, Nubian, Cucuteni, Kurgan and some northern tribes combat methods. A few of the guards from the caravans were interacting with Sitalkes and he would seek out the methods the traders used to protect themselves.

The Upright Way which is currently led by Sitalkes with input from Diaghis has formal fighting schools in Abdera, Oak, and a number of other places. The schools would continuously seek new teachers and methods for both tactics and combat. We would seek out warriors and scholars of war from all over including Ebla, and other places.

We would not be above hiring mercenaries or old soldiers to learn.

We might even learn the ax throw, the log toss, and other "games" from Crimea.

The martial arts that go back to 3000 bc and earlier that I can find are Malla Yudda and Sumerian Boxing. There are cave drawings of wrestling from France from 15,000 years ago. There are ancient paintings of combat in Egypt going back to 3400 b.c.

I am hoping that I can get some input on how this might happen. The first people from India might be showing up in Sumer. I would probably need some kind of feedback.

[Guuj Xaat Kil]

Oh boi about to post now, be careful my dude squid worshippers are a-comin.

[Guuj Xaat Kil]

Everywhere I go, I must derail everything. Posted folks, is it alright? Any metagamey things I need to rectify?

[UniversalCommons]

Everywhere I go, I must derail everything. Posted folks, is it alright? Any metagamey things I need to rectify?

Excellent a little opposition. Time for a crazy philosophical post.

[G-Tech Corporation]

At this point, the question for us is would we be able to hire Imperium soldiers and mercenaries

Hum. That's a good question, and mainly rests upon the extent of Oak's people. Are they north of the Balkans in central Bulgaria? Does she have ports along the Iskar River? There are just the first inklings of the presence of Imperials in that region, but at present anyone coming south to Greece is essentially making a one-way trip, and so would be pretty desperate.

[Plzen]

Everywhere I go, I must derail everything. Posted folks, is it alright? Any metagamey things I need to rectify?

Numbers will not save foreign religious cults from the liberating light of the Commonwealth!

[G-Tech Corporation]

Everywhere I go, I must derail everything. Posted folks, is it alright? Any metagamey things I need to rectify?

Seemed logical to me. We'll want to see how this cult develops, and obviously if you are killing those who resist, they will originally start out more powerful than you. But a good crazy sea-god cult, oh yes. This is what New Civs is for.

[Guuj Xaat Kil]

My dudes rn, guess who’ll be the gun?

[Bortslovakia]

Everywhere I go, I must derail everything. Posted folks, is it alright? Any metagamey things I need to rectify?

Seemed logical to me. We'll want to see how this cult develops, and obviously if you are killing those who resist, they will originally start out more powerful than you. But a good crazy sea-god cult, oh yes. This is what New Civs is for.

Always good to have someone that is certifiably nuts around. Really puts the rest of us in contrast.

[Plzen]

Always good to have someone that is certifiably nuts around. Really puts the rest of us in contrast.

"Rest of us," he says, in a world that already contains a merchant shadow-power-behind-the-throne, an imperialist Rome-derivative with power fantasies, a lesbian cultist with a spiraling fractal-tree of derivative sects, and a warlord with 19th Century Paraguay's notions of ethnic and cultural homogeneity.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Seemed logical to me. We'll want to see how this cult develops, and obviously if you are killing those who resist, they will originally start out more powerful than you. But a good crazy sea-god cult, oh yes. This is what New Civs is for.

Always good to have someone that is certifiably nuts around. Really puts the rest of us in contrast.

Heh, yeah. Compared to whatever Luther-supporting drivel the priests of the Seven spout, and the Axumite Papal States, and the fish monster cultists of Greece, and matriarchal not-Islam from the Sahara, and whatever bean eating mystery cult is the flavor of the month in Oak, even Icedonia’s virtue cults won’t look so weird.

[Ralnis]

Always good to have someone that is certifiably nuts around. Really puts the rest of us in contrast.

Heh, yeah. Compared to whatever Luther-supporting drivel the priests of the Seven spout, and the Axumite Papal States, and the fish monster cultists of Greece, and matriarchal not-Islam from the Sahara, and whatever bean eating mystery cult is the flavor of the month in Oak, even Icedonia’s virtue cults won’t look so weird.

Don't be jealous of Sumerian greed.

[Plzen]

Heh, yeah. Compared to whatever Luther-supporting drivel the priests of the Seven spout, and the Axumite Papal States, and the fish monster cultists of Greece, and matriarchal not-Islam from the Sahara, and whatever bean eating mystery cult is the flavor of the month in Oak, even Icedonia’s virtue cults won’t look so weird.

...said the Christian, while also trying to spread his own religious faith about yet another supposed authority in the sky.

Honestly of the religions that popped up in this RP to date, Icedonia's virtue cults is probably the only one that isn't horribly offensive in some manner. At least the sanctified deity there is human ability.

[Bortslovakia]

Always good to have someone that is certifiably nuts around. Really puts the rest of us in contrast.

Heh, yeah. Compared to whatever Luther-supporting drivel the priests of the Seven spout, and the Axumite Papal States, and the fish monster cultists of Greece, and matriarchal not-Islam from the Sahara, and whatever bean eating mystery cult is the flavor of the month in Oak, even Icedonia’s virtue cults won’t look so weird.

A bean eating mystery cult sounds amazing. Where do I sign up?

...said the Christian, while also trying to spread his own religious faith about yet another supposed authority in the sky.

Honestly of the religions that popped up in this RP to date, Icedonia's virtue cults is probably the only one that isn't horribly offensive in some manner. At least the sanctified deity there is human ability.

Hold on, WHAT?!

They preach GENOCIDE as a core tenant! Their entire religion is just an apparatus for the state! How are they the ones that are alright?

[Plzen]

Hold on, WHAT?!

They preach GENOCIDE as a core tenant! Their entire religion is just an apparatus for the state! How are they the ones that are alright?

Wait, is that actually a part of their faith? I thought genocide was more a secular policy of the Icedonians, not a part of their religion.

If it is, that changes my assessment of the virtue cults... changes it quite drastically.

[Guuj Xaat Kil]

and whatever bean eating mystery cult is the flavor of the month in Oak.

Oak nibbas really do be thinking bout thos beans.
They will live a little longer, for now...

[Bortslovakia]

Hold on, WHAT?!

They preach GENOCIDE as a core tenant! Their entire religion is just an apparatus for the state! How are they the ones that are alright?

Wait, is that actually a part of their faith? I thought genocide was more a secular policy of the Icedonians, not a part of their religion.

If it is, that changes my assessment of the virtue cults... changes it quite drastically.

Like I said, the virtue cult is essentially an apparatus of the state. At least to my understanding. Pragmatism is taught to be a virtue (A la, don't be an idiot and sacrifice yourself in battle. Honor isn't worth it), and by extension Icedonia's extermination policy is considered pragmatic (Only a fool would leave their enemy alive).

It's part of the reason why the cult probably won't hold much influence out of Joohan's borders. The two compliment each other well, but the way virtues are defined doesn't mesh well with other governments or ideologies.

I'm sure a technical argument could be made against the claim I've laid out, but it's quite obvious that adherents would accept the "necessity" of such actions, if not encourage it.