Bortslovakia wrote:Joohan wrote:
I also find a lot of it hard to believe. The idea that these primitive and ignorant people would simply be willing to lend themselves over to our alien ideas of civilization is wholly unrealistic in my opinion ( why i've gone more down the force route ).
Don't take the map at face value though - what you see isn't actual control, it's more like how far our ego stretches. The Imperium, for example, is practically nonexistant beyond the Elbe and it's tributaries. That mass in the middle of Europe isn't what they actually rule, it's just filling in all the hinterlands. Same for the Commonwealth, they're practically non-existant beyond their coast. Hibernia, 90% of the population lives on the East coast - the interior and westernlands are pretty much wild country. Icedonia is pretty consistent about it's realm of control, but we're also the most centralized state in Europe.
As for our populations, those are just the people who fall under our claimed realms. Me and Hibernia, for example, claim like 30,000 people in our realm's apiece. Now, how many of those people are actually loyal to our civilization? Probably not too many. Like wise, we can't really use all those people either - as doubtless there are still huge swaths of the population who have no loyalties or ties to the system's we've created. The map is just posturing, and our IC posts are only a small and isolated glimpse into the world's we've created. This non-sense about colonies and expansion is neither realistic nor stable.
And the Imperium isn't in Sumeria, that's just Ralnis's constant trolling.
Remember the golden rule: Ignorant, not stupid.
Joining an author civ is not the same as being absorbed into, say, Egypt. Literally everything these people care about are better/more available in our states by orders of magnitude. More food, lower mortality rates, better technology, quality of life improvements, and so on. Being wary of foreigners at first does not, nor has it ever, translated directly into a hatred of all outsiders. Yes individual villages will respond differently to offers of cooperation from us, as local leaders may fear that their power will be diminished. The average person though? There's a reason why I've said that, at the demographic level, the government of Hibernia is immensely popular. The same reason applies for why Icedonia is criticized as being overly harsh. These people may not be educated, but they're smart enough to call out a good deal when they see it.
The rest I agree with though. I plan to give a bit of love to the Irish southern coast in the near future, but suffice to say everything west of Kildare is basically pioneer living. Only 30 people within 10 miles of each other and whatnot. The northern coasts are a bit less sparse, but that's where the majority of raider activity is occurring, so I imagine that speaks volumes about how well the law operates in the region. I'm unsure what you mean by colonies, but assuming you're referring to the various islands you've yet to map for me, outside of Mann (a major naval base), and Anglesey (a trading post), those are all military checkpoints and resupply stations. Brest is the closest you could get to a colony in the traditional sense, and that's more an outpost than anything. If someone were to try and develop colonial administrations, it'd be a disaster.
I was talking more about like any idea's of colonizing Iceland or just throwing settlements all up and down the French coast in the near future.
