New Civilizations ( OOC, Always Open, Reboot )

[Ralnis]

Fourth post up! Now a month in and teaching my people this weird Latin alphabet / Egyptian language hybrid so they can start writing and recording their thoughts. Not as militaristically-inclined as some other posts but it's progress.

Aren't you in Egypt?

[Hanafuridake]

Fourth post up! Now a month in and teaching my people this weird Latin alphabet / Egyptian language hybrid so they can start writing and recording their thoughts. Not as militaristically-inclined as some other posts but it's progress.

Militarism is overrated, no one has respect for decadent aesthetics.

[Burgerlandia]

Fourth post up! Now a month in and teaching my people this weird Latin alphabet / Egyptian language hybrid so they can start writing and recording their thoughts. Not as militaristically-inclined as some other posts but it's progress.

Aren't you in Egypt?

Yeah, using the Latin alphabet because 'understand and speak' every language doesn't imply Jason knows hieroglyphs. So I have to fuse verbal Egyptian with written Latin alphabet which we English speakers all know and love.

[Ralnis]

Aren't you in Egypt?

Yeah, using the Latin alphabet because 'understand and speak' every language doesn't imply Jason knows hieroglyphs. So I have to fuse verbal Egyptian with written Latin alphabet which we English speakers all know and love.

But why? Every Author knows and speaks every language. Jason will know hireoglyohipics as much as Luther knows Sumerian and all other Semetic languages that are in the Fertile Crescent.

[Hanafuridake]

Aren't you in Egypt?

Yeah, using the Latin alphabet because 'understand and speak' every language doesn't imply Jason knows hieroglyphs. So I have to fuse verbal Egypt with written Latin alphabet which we English speakers all know and love.

That sounds similar to Man'yōgana. It's going to be quite the headache for your character.

[Burgerlandia]

Yeah, using the Latin alphabet because 'understand and speak' every language doesn't imply Jason knows hieroglyphs. So I have to fuse verbal Egyptian with written Latin alphabet which we English speakers all know and love.

But why? Every Author knows and speaks every language. Jason will know hireoglyohipics as much as Luther knows Sumerian and all other Semetic languages that are in the Fertile Crescent.

Understands and knows are different in my opinion. Understand implies they can deduce what a person is saying verbally and speaks is self explanatory. Knows implies they know every aspect: written, oral, all grammar and vocabulary, etc.

It's just how I interpreted the introduction.

[Ralnis]

But why? Every Author knows and speaks every language. Jason will know hireoglyohipics as much as Luther knows Sumerian and all other Semetic languages that are in the Fertile Crescent.

Understands and knows are different in my opinion. Understand implies they can deduce what a person is saying verbally and speaks is self explanatory. Knows implies they know every aspect: written, oral, all grammar and vocabulary, etc.

It's just how I interpreted the introduction.

Fair enough. I just wanted to ask why.

[Burgerlandia]

Understands and knows are different in my opinion. Understand implies they can deduce what a person is saying verbally and speaks is self explanatory. Knows implies they know every aspect: written, oral, all grammar and vocabulary, etc.

It's just how I interpreted the introduction.

Fair enough. I just wanted to ask why.

Yeah np. I suppose it is very subjective though, I understand your intrigue.

[UniversalCommons]

Did a complete overhaul of my three posts so it would match with what was asked for.

[The GAmeTopians]

Posts were a bit rushed since I don't know how long I have before the time skip, but it'll do.

[Civilization OP]

Long time lurker. First time poster. I was considering just contenting myself with passively observing as I've done in the past with.... everything, but with lots of time to kill, and the potential of getting on the proverbial ground floor of a New Civilizations RP, I couldn't help myself


Author Applicaiton

Name: Patrick Kolman
Age: 21
Height and Weight: 5 foot 9 inches- 200 pounds give or take
[/b]Skin, hair, and eye description: A relatively average height man of mixed European heritage, Patrick is pale, and prone to significant sunburn. His hair, which is in desperate need of a haircut, is a distinctly dirty blond to the point of being indistinguishable from brown. He has no facial hair, though on occasion sports a patchy five o'clock shadow when he forgets to shave in the morning. His eyes are a not unpleasant, but ultimately bland shade of blue
( Optional ) Picture:

Prior Profession: Fulltime student with varying oddjobs for a bit of extra spending money
Level of education ( specify degrees or note worthy classes ): Third year Political Science major with a minor in history, philosophy, and a focus on international relations
Physique description: Being slightly overweight for his height and age, Patrick is the model of the quasi-sedentary lifestyle. He functions easily from day to day, and obviously is used to some strenuous activities, but obviously eats just a bit too much, and exercises just a bit too little. His shoulders are broad, and legs stocky, though the apparent stockiness may come less from being vertically challenged, and more from his constant slouching.
Useful skills:
Political knowledge, and governance
Eagle Scout (General survival and handiwork knowledge. Leadership)
Geography?(Debatable really. I have an above average knowledge of global geography IRL, but it's hard to say how useful that would actually be, and if such knowledge is enough to constitute a skill. I'll remove if necessary)
National Origin: United States of America
What were you doing prior to falling asleep and awakening in the past?: A bit of studying followed by playing some games with friends
Description of personality: Self conscious, introverted, scholarly, deceptive, kind, pragmatic, and cynical
Where in the world are you landing?: Dublin, Ireland

Autobiography/Biography ( paragraph minimum ):
Patrick was born January 20th 1998 in Long Island, New York as the elder of twins. His early life was exceptionally normal, going into the public education system at the age of five, and naturally making friends with his fellow classmates. Always one for good grades, he as a rule paid attention and did his work. Though the friends he chose may have been a bit more chaotic than one would think, they never got into serious trouble. Joining the Cub Scouts early, he would remain in Scouting for practically his entire childhood. Eventually though, children find that one topic that sticks with them more than the rest. Patrick, in this case, found himself interested in history, specifically Greek history and mythology (and to a child, the two are effectively inseparable when brought up in discussion). Said interest would eventually evolve into a general love of all things historical, and with a bit of guidance early in high school after years of self taught historical knowledge, into a love of the political as well. The gap in between was unfortunately of his own doing, choosing to spend his years of middle school in practical isolation thanks to social awkwardness, and just the natural tedium of transitioning from child to young adult.
Earning the rank of Eagle Scout just shy of his 18th birthday, Patrick would go on to (of course) apply for colleges, look for part time jobs, and after senior year, attend one of said colleges. The next three years went by quickly, leading to the present. And oh what a present it is

( Optional on down)
What are your intentions for this RP, what's the long term goal?: Just to have a bit of fun. The premise has always interested me, and this gives me the chance to develop a hypothetical society from the ground up. IC I'd like to create a constitutional monarchy of a sort, uniting Ireland under one ruler, and then cultivating a social conscious that enables democracy to take root. Effectively Enlightened Monarchy->Federated Republic. I'd definitely like a bit of rationalism in there as well
What people or places are you taking inspiration from?: Frederick the Great, various enlightened thinkers (a dash of Locke, a sprinkle of Rousseau), Washington/the US to some extent
Why did you chose to land where you did?: Europe is getting full, but it will take some time before the authors interact. Ireland is isolated, relatively resource rich, close enough to other authors that there will be some eventual diplomacy, and to be perfectly frank, it's just picturesque. As close to the Shire as you'll get without going to New Zealand
What vibe should we get from your civilization and it's culture?: Celtic-North American-Irish mix. Probably with a focus on science and philosophy over religion, since this author probably won't be doing much to proselytize any specific faith
What are your character's motivations?: Figure out what exactly happened, find a way back home, and/or develop a functioning democratic society that he can direct with influence, and long built respect as opposed to direct rule (A democracy without the demagogues/sophists effectively)
Theme Song?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lC0Wk0SS20
What do you wanna see in this RP? What would make it better?: Been reading these for a while, and would definitely advocate for the return of being able to pick one other person to grant immortality to.

Accepted

[Civilization OP]

@OP are you giving us events after 3 posts, or after a specific amount of time?

Events are random. If you are doing well ( post vomiting ), request an event, or if I just feel like it - I send out events.

[Civilization OP]

Author Applicaiton

Name: Arsenio Lacson
Age: 25
Height and Weight: 5'7", 140 lbs.
Skin, hair, and eye description: Dark brown skin, light brown eyes, black hair.

Prior Profession: Copywriter
Level of education ( specify degrees or note worthy classes ): Bachelor of Fine Arts in Creative Writing, specialization in Playwriting, with minor degrees in Theater Arts (Acting), and Literature (English)
Physique description: Lean, and pretty fit. He regularly exercises by biking upwards of 50km every weekend, and works out on the weekdays. Practices a diet of low-meat consumption. Not necessarily a vegetarian diet, but tries to eat one or two of the daily meals without meat. Slightly ambidextrous owing to the fact that he injured a finger on his left-hand (his "natural" hand) at 5 (that actually happened) - throws with left, aims with right, can eat with whichever utensil in whichever hand (can eat without utensils, for that matter),
Useful skills: Thorough knowledge of the history of theater and the arts, has made charcoal before and can probably remember doing it (possibly), has had experience at an archery range, and has had experience throwing javelin-like objects, knows basic boxing, knows basic arnis (Filipino martial art), intermediate-level skills as a swimmer

National Origin: Philippines
What were you doing prior to falling asleep and awakening in the past?: Lunch break at work
Description of personality: Struggles with depression and mild anxiety, a bit on the anti-social side. He's kind of a coward, too, and would almost always run from a fight if the opportunity presented itself, but if he were backed into a corner he can properly defend himself.
Where in the world are you landing?: Argos

Autobiography/Biography ( paragraph minimum ): Arsenio was born and raised pretty normally, and was interested in the arts from an early age, beginning with writing fantasy fanfiction on scraps of paper in between his classes in elementary. His middle class upbringing afforded him this kind of freedom to pursue a "non-essential" skill (as others might put it). He went to college, taking a fine arts degree, jumped straight into the world of theater during college and then right after it and, finding that taking a theater career doesn't pay very well, especially if your career path doesn't involve acting, went back to his greatest talent: he writes. He's been writing since that one weird day in grade school where he wanted to write about ships and stuff. His degree in college wasn't for theater, it was for writing (playwriting yes, but the main focus was the writing part and not for what outlet). He then went on to work for various media and advertising agencies, first as a freelancer, and then as a regular employee writing copy and content online.

And then, one fateful afternoon, as he was enjoying dozing off during his lunch break, he fell into a deep slumber and woke up in a place unknown to him.


What are your intentions for this RP, what's the long term goal?: Right now I'm thinking uniting the whole Peloponnese, but that can (and probably will) change over time
What people or places are you taking inspiration from?: My previous run with New Civilizations, and a lot of self-assessment, really.
Why did you chose to land where you did?: Honestly? I wanted Athens, the place I landed in the last iteration of this RP. But since there are already two people there, I'm heading slightly away from Athens to a much older city in the same region - Argos
What vibe should we get from your civilization and it's culture?: Peace and culture - and lots and lots of theater!
What are your character's motivations?: As of now what I'm thinking is he wants to get home.
Theme Song?: No. I don't do that.
What do you wanna see in this RP? What would make it better?: Really, my biggest problem right now with the RP is the timeframe of 1 page = 1 year. I'd honestly prefer it if the time was a bit more ambiguous, and if we had a lot more control over how fast or how slow our story was progressing - with some tinkering by the OP here and there, of course.

Looks like Greece is getting full too. Also, the time rule has changed.

Accepted.

[Pasong Tirad]

Looks like Greece is getting full too. Also, the time rule has changed.

Accepted.

Excellent. Now, I'm going to be heavily quoting several of my first posts from my original run of NC. Hope that's okay, since I won't be able to invest my time in this until later this week (I do freelance writing work, and February is usually my heaviest month, I have several deadlines for the 28th!).

[Bortslovakia]

Long time lurker. First time poster. I was considering just contenting myself with passively observing as I've done in the past with.... everything, but with lots of time to kill, and the potential of getting on the proverbial ground floor of a New Civilizations RP, I couldn't help myself


Author Applicaiton

Name: Patrick Kolman
Age: 21
Height and Weight: 5 foot 9 inches- 200 pounds give or take
[/b]Skin, hair, and eye description: A relatively average height man of mixed European heritage, Patrick is pale, and prone to significant sunburn. His hair, which is in desperate need of a haircut, is a distinctly dirty blond to the point of being indistinguishable from brown. He has no facial hair, though on occasion sports a patchy five o'clock shadow when he forgets to shave in the morning. His eyes are a not unpleasant, but ultimately bland shade of blue
( Optional ) Picture:

Prior Profession: Fulltime student with varying oddjobs for a bit of extra spending money
Level of education ( specify degrees or note worthy classes ): Third year Political Science major with a minor in history, philosophy, and a focus on international relations
Physique description: Being slightly overweight for his height and age, Patrick is the model of the quasi-sedentary lifestyle. He functions easily from day to day, and obviously is used to some strenuous activities, but obviously eats just a bit too much, and exercises just a bit too little. His shoulders are broad, and legs stocky, though the apparent stockiness may come less from being vertically challenged, and more from his constant slouching.
Useful skills:
Political knowledge, and governance
Eagle Scout (General survival and handiwork knowledge. Leadership)
Geography?(Debatable really. I have an above average knowledge of global geography IRL, but it's hard to say how useful that would actually be, and if such knowledge is enough to constitute a skill. I'll remove if necessary)
National Origin: United States of America
What were you doing prior to falling asleep and awakening in the past?: A bit of studying followed by playing some games with friends
Description of personality: Self conscious, introverted, scholarly, deceptive, kind, pragmatic, and cynical
Where in the world are you landing?: Dublin, Ireland

Autobiography/Biography ( paragraph minimum ):
Patrick was born January 20th 1998 in Long Island, New York as the elder of twins. His early life was exceptionally normal, going into the public education system at the age of five, and naturally making friends with his fellow classmates. Always one for good grades, he as a rule paid attention and did his work. Though the friends he chose may have been a bit more chaotic than one would think, they never got into serious trouble. Joining the Cub Scouts early, he would remain in Scouting for practically his entire childhood. Eventually though, children find that one topic that sticks with them more than the rest. Patrick, in this case, found himself interested in history, specifically Greek history and mythology (and to a child, the two are effectively inseparable when brought up in discussion). Said interest would eventually evolve into a general love of all things historical, and with a bit of guidance early in high school after years of self taught historical knowledge, into a love of the political as well. The gap in between was unfortunately of his own doing, choosing to spend his years of middle school in practical isolation thanks to social awkwardness, and just the natural tedium of transitioning from child to young adult.
Earning the rank of Eagle Scout just shy of his 18th birthday, Patrick would go on to (of course) apply for colleges, look for part time jobs, and after senior year, attend one of said colleges. The next three years went by quickly, leading to the present. And oh what a present it is

( Optional on down)
What are your intentions for this RP, what's the long term goal?: Just to have a bit of fun. The premise has always interested me, and this gives me the chance to develop a hypothetical society from the ground up. IC I'd like to create a constitutional monarchy of a sort, uniting Ireland under one ruler, and then cultivating a social conscious that enables democracy to take root. Effectively Enlightened Monarchy->Federated Republic. I'd definitely like a bit of rationalism in there as well
What people or places are you taking inspiration from?: Frederick the Great, various enlightened thinkers (a dash of Locke, a sprinkle of Rousseau), Washington/the US to some extent
Why did you chose to land where you did?: Europe is getting full, but it will take some time before the authors interact. Ireland is isolated, relatively resource rich, close enough to other authors that there will be some eventual diplomacy, and to be perfectly frank, it's just picturesque. As close to the Shire as you'll get without going to New Zealand
What vibe should we get from your civilization and it's culture?: Celtic-North American-Irish mix. Probably with a focus on science and philosophy over religion, since this author probably won't be doing much to proselytize any specific faith
What are your character's motivations?: Figure out what exactly happened, find a way back home, and/or develop a functioning democratic society that he can direct with influence, and long built respect as opposed to direct rule (A democracy without the demagogues/sophists effectively)
Theme Song?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lC0Wk0SS20
What do you wanna see in this RP? What would make it better?: Been reading these for a while, and would definitely advocate for the return of being able to pick one other person to grant immortality to.

Accepted

Fantastic. I'll get a post up either tonight, or tomorrow

[Civilization OP]

You are an expert in what period of warfare? Pre-cold war covers most of human history. And what era of history are you an expert in?

Again - EXPERT

Well, it depends on what you mean by Expert.

Do you mean that you need to have a literal degree on it, or just highly knowledgeable?

He's right.

Expert means: you could teach class on this, and with actual confirmed experts watching over you, they would not correct you. No having a general, pretty much idea - the only statement being acceptable would be: I Know!

And again, which period in history? Which era of warfare? On whose side?

[UniversalCommons]

Am thinking of how to introduce more philosophy into the early part of the roleplay. There are the Ctistae in Thrace who are celibate vegetarians who worship the gods and smoke marijuana according to Greek accounts... The Thracians were both heavy wine drinkers and were supposed to have thrown marijuana into fires. There are foreigners like the Egyptians and the Sumerians who have been around longer than the Greeks and Thracians. A Sumerian or Greek Scribe might be interesting. I am thinking a Sumerian and a Ctistae would add a little flavor. Trying to figure out how I would introduce this. Alcibiades would be a classical astronomer, astrologists who would look at the stars and make prediction and keep track of the seasons. I imagine him reading sheeps livers and looking for omens. So there are three early strands plus religions and mystery religions.

[Civilization OP]

Do you truly have the knowledge equivalent of a Baccalaureate in History for each time period or do you have the usual NS WikiWarrior level of knowledge? And I am not disparaging you, I myself am an unrepentant WikiWarrior when it comes to history.

Well, i mean, i don't know about a Baccalaureate, because i didn't do one of those in history, so i'd say probably WikiWarrior? Still, i'd say i know a lot. But still, it says there Usefull skills. If it's just a usefull skill, then you don't need an goddamn degree on it. I don't need an master's degree on culinary to know how to make rice. I know that boiling water will help get it better for consume. Does that count as a useful skill, or do i need an degree in chemistry? This is why i feel like the app isn't being clear enough. It says useful skills, but apparently you have to be an complete, 100% knowledgeable master with a postdoctorate degree to it count as one? I feel like i'm a bit lost here. What does expert qualify as? Just someone who knows about it to an extent that they actually know what they are doing?

Skills as in, things which are unique and would help you survive in this world. Being able to cook rice is not unique nor notable - so there is no need to mention it. Being an expert in metallurgy: Now that is a unique and highly valuable skill. Or, in your case, warfare. Having skills in these fields will give you an advantage, not only against the native populations of this time - but other authors as well. So, you need to be completely honest if you actually know enough about a given subject to call upon it as a skill.

[Civilization OP]

Am thinking of how to introduce more philosophy into the early part of the roleplay. There are the Ctistae in Thrace who are celibate vegetarians who worship the gods and smoke marijuana according to Greek accounts... The Thracians were both heavy wine drinkers and were supposed to have thrown marijuana into fires. There are foreigners like the Egyptians and the Sumerians who have been around longer than the Greeks and Thracians. A Sumerian or Greek Scribe might be interesting. I am thinking a Sumerian and a Ctistae would add a little flavor. Trying to figure out how I would introduce this. Alcibiades would be a classical astronomer, astrologists who would look at the stars and make prediction and keep track of the seasons. I imagine him reading sheeps livers and looking for omens. So there are three early strands plus religions and mystery religions.

Why not a counter school of though?

A group of challenger philosophers who rebel against your teachings, creating their own ethos? I mean, greeks may have popularized philosophy, but the greek people themselves really hated philosophers.

[Joohan]

Hey universal - I think you are way too far ahead in terms of history:

Greece, didn't exist at the time. The region that would become Greece was populated by a much different, and much less socially advanced culture. What is more, Egypt wasn't a state at 3000 B.C. There were numerous rulers and numerous kingdoms in Egypt. And the term pharaoh wouldn't come around for thousands of years. Things of high Greek culture would likely still need to be invented too - like gymnasiums, purple dye, or oracles. On that note, the hellenic pantheon didn't exist during this time. It was RADICALLY different. Like, just look up Minoan mythology to get an idea of how different it was.

I am just pointing out that, you are operating like 2000 years into the future in terms of culture.

[Joohan]

Also, could I get some feed back on my recent post?

[Orostan]

Would it be possible for me to join in Damascus as a displaced engineer?

[Plzen]

I am just pointing out that, you are operating like 2000 years into the future in terms of culture.

Lots of people are stretching the timeline by a few centuries. Historical accuracy seems to come second to maintaining continuity to whatever modern culture each region will eventually have, and to be honest I'm perfectly fine with that. Since the OP hasn't said anything to that end I assume he is too.

[Hanafuridake]

I am just pointing out that, you are operating like 2000 years into the future in terms of culture.

Lots of people are stretching the timeline by a few centuries. Historical accuracy seems to come second to maintaining continuity to whatever modern culture each region will eventually have, and to be honest I'm perfectly fine with that. Since the OP hasn't said anything to that end I assume he is too.

Yeah, I've mainly been relying on the Ainu language for toponyms and personal names because next to nothing is known about the time period where I'm at except for some pots and statues (which are nice, but don't tell us about how the people spoke or functioned). I'm dreading having to deal with the Yayoi period because that's a historical event that's shrouded in mystery (and nationalist edit-wars).

[Plzen]

In any case, I put up two posts for an RP that's all of three days old and I'm seriously falling behind...

This is an absurdly fast-paced roleplay, but I suppose it has to be in order to skip through the earlier years before any of us meet anyone else quickly.

I can't keep putting up a post every couple days, though. That's just not a manageable schedule with all my other obligations.