New Civilizations ( OOC, Always Open, Reboot )

[Nea Byzantia]

So I'm thinking my Author gets captured as a slave; and he eventually leads a slave revolt against the ruling tribe, and he and his followers found a city on the coast of Gibraltar. Does that sound feasible?

[G-Tech Corporation]

Well, yes, but it’s such an obvious security risk if my primary energy source is imported from overseas. Energy is only slightly less sensitive than food.

Hmm... there’s coal in the Appalachias, I seem to recall? Could be an idea.

No one, not the Imperium, not Icedonia, not the Commonwealth, not me, (except maybe Sumer or Egypt) has the population density and lack of trees to justify using coal over charcoal really anytime soon

Gotta disagree with you there - I have really excellent reasons to use coal instead of charcoal over here. But hey, if you don't know those reasons, you'll figure them out eventually

[Nea Byzantia]

Also, does coinage exist; or can my author invent it?

[G-Tech Corporation]

So I'm thinking my Author gets captured as a slave; and he eventually leads a slave revolt against the ruling tribe, and he and his followers found a city on the coast of Gibraltar. Does that sound feasible?

Pound for pound, aye. I'm a bit skeptical, as a Co-Op, of an Author with military experience and who happens to be a professor of antiquities. You'll need to run that past Joohan.

[Nea Byzantia]

So I'm thinking my Author gets captured as a slave; and he eventually leads a slave revolt against the ruling tribe, and he and his followers found a city on the coast of Gibraltar. Does that sound feasible?

Pound for pound, aye. I'm a bit skeptical, as a Co-Op, of an Author with military experience and who happens to be a professor of antiquities. You'll need to run that past Joohan.

Oh, I was thinking he'd be more of a Sage-Philosopher-Prophet figure; with the Military leader being someone else...Maybe I'll even give my character, a religious, priestly background; he could be the founder of a religion and rule as an almost Pope-Caliph type of figure; perhaps he tries to bring an ancient form of Christianity to those tribes?

[Bortslovakia]

So I'm thinking my Author gets captured as a slave; and he eventually leads a slave revolt against the ruling tribe, and he and his followers found a city on the coast of Gibraltar. Does that sound feasible?

Almost sounds word for word like what the guy in Granada is doing

Also, does coinage exist; or can my author invent it?

Some have created currency systems, yes.

I very much support this idea.

My first one is going to be of Andrew and Edna. For a variety of reasons, they will look like they're out of the late Roman period, which of course doesn't reflect the IC.

Good ol' Rome

[Hanafuridake]

[Alaroma]

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That last post has compelled me to make laws, and enforce them violently after the time skip.


And yes, the concept art will be glorious.

[Alaroma]

Time to pull a pro gamer move, and begin establishment of the "clergy" next post.

That aside, I've been wondering, how do people here view my posts?

[Plzen]

Granted - and I shouldn't necessarily mention this - but I doubt that coal imports from the Imperium will be overly volatile. Mining is already beginning to be used beyond purely strategic applications in metallurgy, for things like brick kilns and open roasting furnaces. Getting your hands on some anthracite or bituminous coal from the Erzgebirge certainly won't be implausible for the Commonwealth.

This is an even bigger security risk than Icedonian coal, though... if I was going to rely on foreign imports I might as well import British coal.

The Commonwealth’s energy supply should ideally come from its own colonies or, failing that, client states. Of which I intend to establish many.

[Plzen]

Reading the latest IC posts, I would very seriously doubt the Imperial shipbuilding techniques approach the Commonwealth’s. It’s a field Clara’s refined for years on, after all, while Viktor was working on other things.

I will also be watching what happens in those new settlements of the Imperium carefully, since it’s quite directly relevant to my own range of options up here in the north...

[Kelmet]

Reading the latest IC posts, I would very seriously doubt the Imperial shipbuilding techniques approach the Commonwealth’s. It’s a field Clara’s refined for years on, after all, while Viktor was working on other things.

I'm going to have to agree, The Commonwealth would have to develop a ship building industry that could manufacture vessels to stand up to the hard waters of the Baltic and North Sea, With the Imperium having navigable rivers with little need for naval warfare until the Commonwealth war.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Reading the latest IC posts, I would very seriously doubt the Imperial shipbuilding techniques approach the Commonwealth’s. It’s a field Clara’s refined for years on, after all, while Viktor was working on other things.

I will also be watching what happens in those new settlements of the Imperium carefully, since it’s quite directly relevant to my own range of options up here in the north...

Yknow, that’s what I would have said this morning too. I went into that post planning to mention a technique or two Imperial engineers had gleaned from inspecting captured Northern vessels... and then I actually combed through your writing to see what those techniques might be.

As far as I could find, for all that ships are nominally a big part of Norse culture, the only references I found to their construction techniques were extremely vague, and not at all attributed to Clara’s expertise - which is pretty necessary if they are to be more advanced than a humble longship. Klinker artisan-built longships, constructed individually by settlements would actually, if anything, be substantially less sophisticated vessels than the centrally constructed knaars which roam Imperial waters, primarily by dint of carpentry and superior machine tools.

Unless I missed something, I’m fairly comfortable asserting, technologically speaking, Imperial naval assets are actually ahead of the Commonwealth. They’re built larger and more soundly, at the very least. And have, pound for pound, superior access to navigational aids in the form of fledgling methods of estimating longitude and latitude, which I didn’t see in any of your posts either.

I’d be happy to be corrected if such were the case, of course. Just working off what I saw.

[Plzen]

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As I have already said in the OOC thread, I don’t feel compelled to mention every minor or incremental technological advance the Commonwealth makes in IC posts.

I write things that are interesting and fun to write for me, which several years of Clara spending a few hours a week refining ship designs or navigational aids isn’t.

Just because I don’t mention it doesn’t mean improvements aren’t being made.

[G-Tech Corporation]

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As I have already said in the OOC thread, I don’t feel compelled to mention every minor or incremental technological advance the Commonwealth makes in IC posts.

I write things that are interesting and fun to write for me, which several years of Clara spending a few hours a week refining ship designs or navigational aids isn’t.

Just because I don’t mention it doesn’t mean improvements aren’t being made.

Sure, sure. And I don’t expect giant posts on something you don’t care about. But if you’re going to have Clara, a character with limited nautical/engineering background, be theoretically leading the most nautically advanced faction in our setting...

Perhaps it would behoove you to mention the reasoning for that superiority once? Even twice? Just in passing?

Otherwise it ends up looking a bit silly when “oh yes we definitely have these many and great techniques which have never been brought up before and have a fairly intricate implementation process but definitely exist” occurs.

[Plzen]

Perhaps it would behoove you to mention the reasoning for that superiority once? Even twice? Just in passing?

Otherwise it ends up looking a bit silly when “oh yes we definitely have these many and great techniques which have never been brought up before and have a fairly intricate implementation process but definitely exist” occurs.

Given the career I have in mind for Jórunn, probably after the timeskip.

You’re never going to get a comprehensive essay on Norse shipbuilding techniques, unless I have a dramatic change in expertise and interests. Especially since I don’t have the years of hands-on experience and passive technology exchange with Hibernia and the Imperium that Clara does by now. But a couple innovations mentioned in passing... that could do.

I’ll draft myself a list of few shipbuilding techniques I feel I can introduce (or develop given time) and look them up on the internet to see which ones a RL Viking-era longship didn’t have.

[Joohan]

Pound for pound, aye. I'm a bit skeptical, as a Co-Op, of an Author with military experience and who happens to be a professor of antiquities. You'll need to run that past Joohan.

Oh, I was thinking he'd be more of a Sage-Philosopher-Prophet figure; with the Military leader being someone else...Maybe I'll even give my character, a religious, priestly background; he could be the founder of a religion and rule as an almost Pope-Caliph type of figure; perhaps he tries to bring an ancient form of Christianity to those tribes?

I'd like to see your finished bio before I comment on the rebellion stuff. Most skills can be learned over a period of time, and within reason.

[Hanafuridake]

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That last post has compelled me to make laws, and enforce them violently after the time skip.

Which post?

[Nea Byzantia]

So I'm thinking my Author gets captured as a slave; and he eventually leads a slave revolt against the ruling tribe, and he and his followers found a city on the coast of Gibraltar. Does that sound feasible?

Almost sounds word for word like what the guy in Granada is doing

For serious? Then we can definitely team up. Form an ancient version of the Roman Republic with a Byzantine flair; with Slavery out and Feudalism in.

[Nea Byzantia]

Oh, I was thinking he'd be more of a Sage-Philosopher-Prophet figure; with the Military leader being someone else...Maybe I'll even give my character, a religious, priestly background; he could be the founder of a religion and rule as an almost Pope-Caliph type of figure; perhaps he tries to bring an ancient form of Christianity to those tribes?

I'd like to see your finished bio before I comment on the rebellion stuff. Most skills can be learned over a period of time, and within reason.

Sir Yes sir!...I just have some modifications I'd like to make. I'm sort of planning the Author around the Civilization I'd like to build; but within reasonable proximity to myself as a real person; so should be interesting.

[Alaroma]

That last post has compelled me to make laws, and enforce them violently after the time skip.

Which post?

Your last one? More specifically the second section.

[Hanafuridake]

Which post?

Your last one? More specifically the second section.

You mean the IC post?

[Alaroma]

Your last one? More specifically the second section.

You mean the IC post?

Yes, I do.

[Alaroma]

Any idea of what Sumer might have traded to local Tigrayans?

[Hanafuridake]

You mean the IC post?

Yes, I do.

Not really sure how one would enforce laws on an absolute monarch.