New Civilizations ( OOC, Always Open, Reboot )

[G-Tech Corporation]

No it's not, I'm killing Luther and leaving before I cause more destruction and deaths because of my shit story and character.

There’s no necessity for you to convince G-Tech of the necessity of you leaving. If you want to go, go. Let nobody stop you.

It was a pleasure to have you RP with us while it lasted, and I wish you the best of fortunes on your future ventures.

Yes, apologies. I don't mean to pressure you to stay if you would prefer to go, Ralnis. I simply enjoy writing with you. I was overjoyed when you returned after your hiatus of three years and more.

[Joohan]

I did just explain exactly why there are near universal cultural similarities and linguistic groups in this era - that was more or less the entire thrust of my post. I can summarize again, if you missed it, but you seem to have missed a large chunk of the post regardless in your quote - are you sure you read the whole thing?

I did, but chose to leave it out. You just seemed to be explaining that tribes exist in your general area, and that was never really a point of contention. But, I still don't understand why you would think that there would be any kind of cultural or linguistic universality.

That's another point altogether, but worth noting - fighting massed combat with weapons equality relies on massed combat equally, until such a time as the lethality of the individual warrior allows him to pose a personal threat in a very short timeframe to another individual warrior. And that's an axiom we don't really see until the invention of gunpowder or, in some schools of thought, the crossbow.

So sure, local tribes are fully capable of adopting formation fighting to counter Imperial formation fighting. I absolutely agree with you on that.

Or, they begin fighting in way specifically designed to counter imperial tactics. Asymmetrical warfare a not would not be difficult doctrine to follow for a semi-nomadic people, and would make any idea of massed formations practically useless when the enemy just say, " Nah "

I would hardly go so far as to say 'falling over each other'. The Imperium relied on judicial and legal authority for her initial expansion in the settlements surrounding Mara herself where parasocial or allosocial relationships existed. Beyond that, it relies on implied threat, offered prosperity, and social pressure at an individual level for integration.

Of course, I should note that, contrary to what might be your impression, integrating settlements beyond the Imperium's borders is far and away a minority of how the Imperium expands. Central Europe is still a land of hunter gatherer bands that work nomadic rounds - the perfect sort of people to voluntarily integrate, and a sort of people that is nearly impossible to integrate if they aren't interested in the process. As I've noted, most of the Imperium's 'borders' are space-filling and largely empty between riparian settlements. That's because the nomadic bands who aren't interested in bowing the knee - which will be a decent amount of them, have fucked off elsewhere.

This is fair. But even still, I would like to see the Imperium start having some problems - like every other civ is having right now.

[Kelmet]

But such a cool impact on our world. The Fertile Crescent's impact on history will be much different. Advanced but smaller, they might end up our world's Europe instead of actual Europe.

No it's not, I'm killing Luther and leaving before I cause more destruction and deaths because of my shit story and character.

It happens Ralnis don't be to hard on yourself.I'd hate to see you go, your a great person to rp with.

[Joohan]

If settling this means just letting you have the territories, no. I really do want those rocks.

We’d honestly be pressing for the Southern Isles too, if we can somehow seize them in war.

I've said multiple times that Pat would be perfectly happy with a joint ownership deal. He's afraid of Orkney and the surrounding isles being used as a base of operations to raid, and potentially launch an invasion of Britain. He doesn't particularly care if they're just used for trade ports. It's a matter of having control over the situation.

If it's all or nothing though, the war is still on!

That's right Plzn, put the Scandinavian foot down. Patty want's the Orkney's, let him have it - every inch of dirt six feet below the surface is his.

So it's OP favoritism then!? I see how it is! I get it!

I'll take that deal, and Clara can have the bottom of the sea in exchange! YARR HARR

I just think she's having a hard time. Wanna cheer her on for a bit.

[Ralnis]

There’s no necessity for you to convince G-Tech of the necessity of you leaving. If you want to go, go. Let nobody stop you.

It was a pleasure to have you RP with us while it lasted, and I wish you the best of fortunes on your future ventures.

Yes, apologies. I don't mean to pressure you to stay if you would prefer to go, Ralnis. I simply enjoy writing with you. I was overjoyed when you returned after your hiatus of three years and more.

How would Sumer be like our World's Europe because Luther is killing everyone for greed?

[Kelmet]

Yes, apologies. I don't mean to pressure you to stay if you would prefer to go, Ralnis. I simply enjoy writing with you. I was overjoyed when you returned after your hiatus of three years and more.

How would Sumer be like our World's Europe because Luther is killing everyone for greed?

To be honest, some of the most consequential empires in human history kinda had the same things going for it.

[Joohan]

Yes, apologies. I don't mean to pressure you to stay if you would prefer to go, Ralnis. I simply enjoy writing with you. I was overjoyed when you returned after your hiatus of three years and more.

How would Sumer be like our World's Europe because Luther is killing everyone for greed?

Ral, that was literally the motto of the British/French/Spanish/Belgian/Portuguese Empire for like three hundred straight years. You're in good company.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Yes, apologies. I don't mean to pressure you to stay if you would prefer to go, Ralnis. I simply enjoy writing with you. I was overjoyed when you returned after your hiatus of three years and more.

How would Sumer be like our World's Europe because Luther is killing everyone for greed?

Well, everyone being dead means more incentive for things like human rights, specialization, and education. Think of Luther like this world's version of the Black Death, a catalyst for the Renaissance.

[Kelmet]

How would Sumer be like our World's Europe because Luther is killing everyone for greed?

Well, everyone being dead means more incentive for things like human rights, specialization, and education. Think of Luther like this world's version of the Black Death, a catalyst for the Renaissance.

That and if you apply the same model to a nation, you got one hell of a war machine

[Ralnis]

How would Sumer be like our World's Europe because Luther is killing everyone for greed?

Well, everyone being dead means more incentive for things like human rights, specialization, and education. Think of Luther like this world's version of the Black Death, a catalyst for the Renaissance.

So Luther's a fucking plague. Good to know he's that much of horrible person. Literally worse than Issac.

[Joohan]

Well, everyone being dead means more incentive for things like human rights, specialization, and education. Think of Luther like this world's version of the Black Death, a catalyst for the Renaissance.

So Luther's a fucking plague. Good to know he's that much of horrible person. Literally worse than Issac.

[Plzen]

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Don’t you know? One Isaac-year is the SI unit for evil.

[Alaroma]

I feel like I should begin raiding for livestock soon, and increase our herds. I’m not evil, but cows are cows, and the more we have the more power to us.

[Kelmet]

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Don’t you know? One Isaac-year is the SI unit for evil.

That's accurate

[Alaroma]

So Luther's a fucking plague. Good to know he's that much of horrible person. Literally worse than Issac.

I’m not buying the Isaacs evil reasoning. There’s far worse a person could do.

[Alaroma]

I mean let’s be honest here people, Isaacs methods are pretty mild history considered. Everyone else is just too busy playing Mr. Nobility.

[G-Tech Corporation]

I mean let’s be honest here people, Isaacs methods are pretty mild history considered. Everyone else is just too busy playing Mr. Nobility.

Sometimes you have to find high ground that doesn't sit within the artillery range.

Also, this collab with Kelmet is getting to be a real chonker.

[Ralnis]

So Luther's a fucking plague. Good to know he's that much of horrible person. Literally worse than Issac.

Hey, at least your not causing massive destruction across the near east because your greedy. Your just slaving women to people and being Ceaser's Legion. Luther is the human embodiment of a giant plague that is killing everyone around him.

[Joohan]

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Don’t you know? One Isaac-year is the SI unit for evil.

[Alaroma]

I mean let’s be honest here people, Isaacs methods are pretty mild history considered. Everyone else is just too busy playing Mr. Nobility.

Sometimes you have to find high ground that doesn't sit within the artillery range.

Also, this collab with Kelmet is getting to be a real chonker.

I self fashion Axum to be a “Lawful Good” civilization, and we will have no problem uprooting and enslaving entire villages.

[Kelmet]

I mean let’s be honest here people, Isaacs methods are pretty mild history considered. Everyone else is just too busy playing Mr. Nobility.

Sometimes you have to find high ground that doesn't sit within the artillery range.

Also, this collab with Kelmet is getting to be a real chonker.

*Que thicc meme

[Alaroma]

I actually have a moderately evil idea. I secretly set fire to a settlements crops before harvest at night, and they’re not threatened by starvation. Axum offers them assistance in exchange for loyalty to Axum due to our “Graciousness”.

[Kelmet]

Hey, at least your not causing massive destruction across the near east because your greedy. Your just slaving women to people and being Ceaser's Legion. Luther is the human embodiment of a giant plague that is killing everyone around him.

To be fair, there's a lot of people that think the legion were the good guys.

[UniversalCommons]

We don't have a true Genghis Khan here yet. He would kill everyone but the artisans when he invaded sometimes. Scholars were viewed as particularly worthless. If you were a farmer, you might survive. Forests were burned down for pasture. Priests were valued. Isaac isn't there yet. Greed can lead to greatness, Mansa Musa was thought to be the richest person in history. He had an army of 100,000 men and a cavalry corps of 10,000 men. His empires size was second only to the Mongol empire in size at the time.

[Joohan]

Hey, at least your not causing massive destruction across the near east because your greedy. Your just slaving women to people and being Ceaser's Legion. Luther is the human embodiment of a giant plague that is killing everyone around him.

To be fair, there's a lot of people that think the legion were the good guys.

Not gonna lie, I totally sided with the legion because I couldn't stand the NCR...