New Civilizations ( OOC, Always Open, Reboot )

[Alaroma]

Black hair and mixed dark skin, brown eyes and a small beard for a 5"7 man. However Sumeria does have a lot of international traffic so he can always claimed mix Sumerian lineage.

Certainly better than Oliver can, being a pasty englishman

Andrew is black, but that doesn’t mean he won’t stick out like a thumb. Over 6 foot, and his features being closer to the average African American than the average Ethiopian, and Africans can tell that kind of thing.

[Reatra]

okkkkkkkkk what have I missed

[Bortslovakia]

okkkkkkkkk what have I missed

Nothing major. War in Europe. More players in Africa, and Asia. Etc

[Aueroth]

okkkkkkkkk what have I missed

There's a new boi in Persia now

[Alaroma]

Alright, i need to think of some story lines for my author. Any ideas?

[G-Tech Corporation]

Heyo:

@ Auer: One thing to note that I saw in your post was the tribal leader referring to their land as "Persia". That is a wildly anachronistic term for this time period, and kinda needs to be removed.

@ Universal: Ditto for "Czechia". That isn't a term Imperials in Poland would use for their region, since Viktor hasn't introduced it in the least. Czech is a nonsense syllable as far as Common is concerned.

[Ralnis]

Heyo:

@ Auer: One thing to note that I saw in your post was the tribal leader referring to their land as "Persia". That is a wildly anachronistic term for this time period, and kinda needs to be removed.

Would it be fine if Sumerians refer to the lands beyond Elam and the Zagros as Persia? More as a land of tribals and steppes and things where they have traded with some confederations and nomads who travel the well-traveled Indus-Sumer route?

[G-Tech Corporation]

Heyo:

@ Auer: One thing to note that I saw in your post was the tribal leader referring to their land as "Persia". That is a wildly anachronistic term for this time period, and kinda needs to be removed.

Would it be fine if Sumerians refer to the lands beyond Elam and the Zagros as Persia? More as a land of tribals and steppes and things where they have traded with some confederations and nomads who travel the well-traveled Indus-Sumer route?

That would pretty effectively give away that they had an Author leading them.

As would, really, the name Sumeria.

[Ralnis]

Would it be fine if Sumerians refer to the lands beyond Elam and the Zagros as Persia? More as a land of tribals and steppes and things where they have traded with some confederations and nomads who travel the well-traveled Indus-Sumer route?

That would pretty effectively give away that they had an Author leading them.

As would, really, the name Sumeria.

Fair enough on both ends. However Sumer was an established name to the people themselves I do believe.

[G-Tech Corporation]

That would pretty effectively give away that they had an Author leading them.

As would, really, the name Sumeria.

Fair enough on both ends. However Sumer was an established name to the people themselves I do believe.

Not for another 700 years

'Sumeria' comes from the time of the Akkadian Empire in ~2300 BCE.

Of course, not every Author will know this... so Luther might get away with that.

[Ralnis]

Fair enough on both ends. However Sumer was an established name to the people themselves I do believe.

Not for another 700 years

'Sumeria' comes from the time of the Akkadian Empire in ~2300 BCE.

Of course, not every Author will know this... so Luther might get away with that.

Well, fifteen years shat out of hole by one big mistake. Well at least Luther didn't make himself super well known instead of being an advisor.

[Aueroth]

Heyo:

@ Auer: One thing to note that I saw in your post was the tribal leader referring to their land as "Persia". That is a wildly anachronistic term for this time period, and kinda needs to be removed.

Would it be fine if Sumerians refer to the lands beyond Elam and the Zagros as Persia? More as a land of tribals and steppes and things where they have traded with some confederations and nomads who travel the well-traveled Indus-Sumer route?

Yeah sorry about that, I have no idea what ancient Iranians called their homeland

[Plzen]

If I remember correctly, none of the Scandinavian countries were unified countries until the medieval era.

There are no names referring to large regions in 3,000 BC, because a plot of land the size of Sweden is simply well beyond a Neolithic community’s reach. We still need to name regions for various IC and OOC purposes, though, and since there aren’t any in this era we might as well use names from our own.

[Ralnis]

Would it be fine if Sumerians refer to the lands beyond Elam and the Zagros as Persia? More as a land of tribals and steppes and things where they have traded with some confederations and nomads who travel the well-traveled Indus-Sumer route?

Yeah sorry about that, I have no idea what ancient Iranians called their homeland

They don't have any names. We craft the names or just take the names of those that we know of, like Sumer.

[Hanafuridake]

[Bortslovakia]

Heyo:

@ Auer: One thing to note that I saw in your post was the tribal leader referring to their land as "Persia". That is a wildly anachronistic term for this time period, and kinda needs to be removed.

@ Universal: Ditto for "Czechia". That isn't a term Imperials in Poland would use for their region, since Viktor hasn't introduced it in the least. Czech is a nonsense syllable as far as Common is concerned.

It'll actually be pretty interesting to see what names stay, and what names go when Europe is interconnected enough to see standardized maps pop up. I can just imagine some Imperial cartographer proudly presenting his map of "The Heartlands" or some equally grandiose name to a council that's absolutely tired of arguing with him.

[Aueroth]

Yeah sorry about that, I have no idea what ancient Iranians called their homeland

They don't have any names. We craft the names or just take the names of those that we know of, like Sumer.

Right gotcha, just a little misunderstanding; I'll probably give the land my own name, not sure what yet

[Alaroma]

When your character still doesn’t really know where he is.

And he probably won’t until he finds out about Egypt.

[Aueroth]

Aye true, guess I jumped the boat a little bit

[Arlye Austros]

So, what year is it?

PS: Please don't reply "2019"

[Ralnis]

So, what year is it?

PS: Please don't reply "2019"

2019

Seriously its 2985BC/BCE.

[Plzen]

It'll actually be pretty interesting to see what names stay, and what names go when Europe is interconnected enough to see standardized maps pop up. I can just imagine some Imperial cartographer proudly presenting his map of "The Heartlands" or some equally grandiose name to a council that's absolutely tired of arguing with him.

Names can themselves be contentious political issues. See: Sea of Japan.

I can easily imagine us in the north not entertaining “the Heartlands” as a name. “Mara Basin” sounds nice and neutral. I think I’ll take inspiration off your earlier map, too, and call the Imperium the Moravian Autocracy. That is also a nice and neutral name.

[Bortslovakia]

It'll actually be pretty interesting to see what names stay, and what names go when Europe is interconnected enough to see standardized maps pop up. I can just imagine some Imperial cartographer proudly presenting his map of "The Heartlands" or some equally grandiose name to a council that's absolutely tired of arguing with him.

Names can themselves be contentious political issues. See: Sea of Japan.

I can easily imagine us in the north not entertaining “the Heartlands” as a name. “Mara Basin” sounds nice and neutral. I think I’ll take inspiration off your earlier map, too, and call the Imperium the Moravian Autocracy. That is also a nice and neutral name.

Yeah the borders are very reminiscent of Great Moravia, so I just went with it. Especially because I doubt the Irish will want to indulge Viktor's warhammer fantasies.

[Plzen]

Yeah the borders are very reminiscent of Great Moravia, so I just went with it. Especially because I doubt the Irish will want to indulge Viktor's warhammer fantasies.

The Northern Commonwealth the same! Norse national identity is going to develop in a very anti-Moravian direction. The Continentals prefers grandiose and pompous names, so the Norse take joy from their reserved and formal names on their institutions and regions.

[Aueroth]

If you think the Moravians have pompous titles, wait until my Empire digs its heels into Persia