1870-1920 Era War RP [Ideas/Closed] [Former Members Only]

[The Manticoran Empire]

I know this is closed but could i do a global newspaper?

Sorry man. Right now we're just discussing how it's gonna go. No need to.

Then have your people call it something else. Manticore-Arengin War sounds fine to me so that's what I'm gonna call it.

#NotMyGreatWar

I personally would like to redo the great war because that means that I'd also be involved. I'll probably lose to the combined might of Wargloria and Aclus after some fighting, but it'd be good. It really builds in the hatred for the Warglorians as well, and it also builds that "unbreakable will" character in Rannoria's people.

Again, I'd like to do the war over. I'd rather not read the entire war on the old IC just to know where to start off, and instead just forge a new start in the 1900s since that was like the calm before the storm. Stuff happened, but not too much stuff.

I am 100% fine with retconning the war.

[Arengin Union]

Alright, next question is who will be OP of the RP?

We need someone who's active and not biased, and someone who's also willing to take in the ideas of those participating in the RP. They don't have to necessarily be active in the IC, but as long as they make their presence known in the OOC, then it's all good.

I volunteer myself and Arengin, providing balance between the ARN and the Western League.

I agree.

Sorry man. Right now we're just discussing how it's gonna go. No need to.


#NotMyGreatWar

I personally would like to redo the great war because that means that I'd also be involved. I'll probably lose to the combined might of Wargloria and Aclus after some fighting, but it'd be good. It really builds in the hatred for the Warglorians as well, and it also builds that "unbreakable will" character in Rannoria's people.

Again, I'd like to do the war over. I'd rather not read the entire war on the old IC just to know where to start off, and instead just forge a new start in the 1900s since that was like the calm before the storm. Stuff happened, but not too much stuff.

I am 100% fine with retconning the war.

I dont agree.

[The Twelve Isles]

Ah yes, I will most definitely be doing this again any day of the god damn week.

Let me just go dig up all my old images for soldiers, ships, political figures, locations and of course our lord and savior Imperial Marshal Billy Younger.

[Rannoria]

Alright, next question is who will be OP of the RP?

We need someone who's active and not biased, and someone who's also willing to take in the ideas of those participating in the RP. They don't have to necessarily be active in the IC, but as long as they make their presence known in the OOC, then it's all good.

I volunteer myself and Arengin, providing balance between the ARN and the Western League.

Anyone else for the challenge?

I volunteer myself and Arengin, providing balance between the ARN and the Western League.

I agree.

I am 100% fine with retconning the war.

I dont agree.

Any particular reasons? The war only lasted like ten pages I believe, a fraction of the entire RP itself. If you're not willing to go through the effort of war again, why bother doing the reboot at all if the end is close (if I'm correct, which I'm probably not) and half of the war is the last thing this RP will see?

[Rannoria]

Alright so the votes for the start dates are like such so far:

1912: Traans, Aclus, Arengin, Warg

1900: Rann, Eodor, Norcourt, Mant

If there is anything wrong please say.

[Skarten]

Alright so the votes for the start dates are like such so far:

1912: Traans, Aclus, Arengin, Warg

1900: Rann, Eodor, Norcourt, Mant

If there is anything wrong please say.

To be honest, i don't know.

I really want to re-do the war because i've just gotten so much better at RPing.

But then again, seeing the aftermath of the war would just be so goddamn cool too. To be honest, i don't know. It really depends on how we decide that the war ended. That is, IF it ended. But we do need a beggining point right? So i'll guess the war just ended and 1912 is when peace begins. Really,i don't know. It just would be cool to see both scenarios.

I think i'll decide depending on what would happen in a 1912 scenario (For example, what were the results of the war)

[The Twelve Isles]

Alright so the votes for the start dates are like such so far:

1912: Traans, Aclus, Arengin, Warg

1900: Rann, Eodor, Norcourt, Mant

If there is anything wrong please say.

Im gonna vote for 1900 myself. Mostly because I think it adds more time for us to finish this story strong.

[The Manticoran Empire]

Alright so the votes for the start dates are like such so far:

1912: Traans, Aclus, Arengin, Warg

1900: Rann, Eodor, Norcourt, Mant

If there is anything wrong please say.

To be honest, i don't know.

I really want to re-do the war because i've just gotten so much better at RPing.

But then again, seeing the aftermath of the war would just be so goddamn cool too. To be honest, i don't know. It really depends on how we decide that the war ended. That is, IF it ended. But we do need a beggining point right? So i'll guess the war just ended and 1912 is when peace begins. Really,i don't know. It just would be cool to see both scenarios.

I think i'll decide depending on what would happen in a 1912 scenario (For example, what were the results of the war)

In both cases, there is going to be a good deal of run up to warfare. But for post 1912 specifically, the world is basically in a state similar to IRL 1919. The war has just ended after 9 years of death. Nearly 60 million people are dead and tens of billions in damages have been inflicted on most countries. Countries like you, Arengin, Traans, Rusk, Rann, Warg, and TTI, being close to the main battle fronts and, in most cases, on the low end in terms of available manpower, suffered heavy casualties and significant damage to civilian infrastructure and industry. My colonies in Nuwe Afrikaan and Tamir were fairly roughed up and I lost almost 7.1 million soldiers killed or wounded during the conflict.

In the postwar world, myself and Aclus have come out the better of the bunch in absolute terms. Arengin is in decent shape but most of the players are in dire straits economically as a result of 9 years, 2 months, 3 weeks, and 6 days of World War 1 style warfare.

[Skarten]

To be honest, i don't know.

I really want to re-do the war because i've just gotten so much better at RPing.

But then again, seeing the aftermath of the war would just be so goddamn cool too. To be honest, i don't know. It really depends on how we decide that the war ended. That is, IF it ended. But we do need a beggining point right? So i'll guess the war just ended and 1912 is when peace begins. Really,i don't know. It just would be cool to see both scenarios.

I think i'll decide depending on what would happen in a 1912 scenario (For example, what were the results of the war)

In both cases, there is going to be a good deal of run up to warfare. But for post 1912 specifically, the world is basically in a state similar to IRL 1919. The war has just ended after 9 years of death. Nearly 60 million people are dead and tens of billions in damages have been inflicted on most countries. Countries like you, Arengin, Traans, Rusk, Rann, Warg, and TTI, being close to the main battle fronts and, in most cases, on the low end in terms of available manpower, suffered heavy casualties and significant damage to civilian infrastructure and industry. My colonies in Nuwe Afrikaan and Tamir were fairly roughed up and I lost almost 7.1 million soldiers killed or wounded during the conflict.

In the postwar world, myself and Aclus have come out the better of the bunch in absolute terms. Arengin is in decent shape but most of the players are in dire straits economically as a result of 9 years, 2 months, 3 weeks, and 6 days of World War 1 style warfare.

In no way would you be in better terms. I was about to beat Ruskland, If I remember. I had my armies Just outside his capital

[The Manticoran Empire]

In both cases, there is going to be a good deal of run up to warfare. But for post 1912 specifically, the world is basically in a state similar to IRL 1919. The war has just ended after 9 years of death. Nearly 60 million people are dead and tens of billions in damages have been inflicted on most countries. Countries like you, Arengin, Traans, Rusk, Rann, Warg, and TTI, being close to the main battle fronts and, in most cases, on the low end in terms of available manpower, suffered heavy casualties and significant damage to civilian infrastructure and industry. My colonies in Nuwe Afrikaan and Tamir were fairly roughed up and I lost almost 7.1 million soldiers killed or wounded during the conflict.

In the postwar world, myself and Aclus have come out the better of the bunch in absolute terms. Arengin is in decent shape but most of the players are in dire straits economically as a result of 9 years, 2 months, 3 weeks, and 6 days of World War 1 style warfare.

In no way would you be in better terms. I was about to beat Ruskland, If I remember. I had my armies Just outside his capital

I'm not Ruskland and you couldn't hope to sustain the loss rate necessary to engage me. My population was 10 times what yours was. The three people that come out the best in the post war are Aclus, Arengin, and myself. Aclus simply because he was fairly uninvolved, Arengin and myself because we fought the war mostly outside of our heartlands. My industry is entirely intact at the end of the war and statistically speaking a good portion of my workforce survived.
Through Geography and Population, I came out pretty good. Arengin and Aclus have the same factors that worked in their favor.

[Skarten]

In no way would you be in better terms. I was about to beat Ruskland, If I remember. I had my armies Just outside his capital

I'm not Ruskland and you couldn't hope to sustain the loss rate necessary to engage me. My population was 10 times what yours was. The three people that come out the best in the post war are Aclus, Arengin, and myself. Aclus simply because he was fairly uninvolved, Arengin and myself because we fought the war mostly outside of our heartlands. My industry is entirely intact at the end of the war and statistically speaking a good portion of my workforce survived.
Through Geography and Population, I came out pretty good. Arengin and Aclus have the same factors that worked in their favor.

But Ruskland didnt exactly hit me hard. I was the one on the offensive, If I remember correctly. I captured his land in the peninsula and crossed the Sea to north. My last posts were about being on the outskirts his capital. Plus, you were becoming more and more alone in the Battlefield as your Allies got taken out. You were fated to loose.

[The Manticoran Empire]

I'm not Ruskland and you couldn't hope to sustain the loss rate necessary to engage me. My population was 10 times what yours was. The three people that come out the best in the post war are Aclus, Arengin, and myself. Aclus simply because he was fairly uninvolved, Arengin and myself because we fought the war mostly outside of our heartlands. My industry is entirely intact at the end of the war and statistically speaking a good portion of my workforce survived.
Through Geography and Population, I came out pretty good. Arengin and Aclus have the same factors that worked in their favor.

But Ruskland didnt exactly hit me hard. I was the one on the offensive, If I remember correctly. I captured his land in the peninsula and crossed the Sea to north. My last posts were about being on the outskirts his capital. Plus, you were becoming more and more alone in the Battlefield as your Allies got taken out. You were fated to loose.

I did lose. It is just that, by the time I did lose, the war had lasted more than 9 years and my Navy was powerful enough to make invading my heartland impossible. Losses in Afrikaa were mounting for Arengin and your forces in Tamir simply could not match mine. The GDU forces in Halium were crushed by me. The basic consensus is that the war ended in a GDU victory but the map returned to status quo ante bellum for the most part.

[Skarten]

But Ruskland didnt exactly hit me hard. I was the one on the offensive, If I remember correctly. I captured his land in the peninsula and crossed the Sea to north. My last posts were about being on the outskirts his capital. Plus, you were becoming more and more alone in the Battlefield as your Allies got taken out. You were fated to loose.

I did lose. It is just that, by the time I did lose, the war had lasted more than 9 years and my Navy was powerful enough to make invading my heartland impossible. Losses in Afrikaa were mounting for Arengin and your forces in Tamir simply could not match mine. The GDU forces in Halium were crushed by me. The basic consensus is that the war ended in a GDU victory but the map returned to status quo ante bellum for the most part.

There would be differences, without doubt. For example, Ruskland in particular would have to end in a pretty bad position due to the fact that we literally Just had a war that i won a few years before. Plus, what about War Debt and colony concessions? Wasnt your army literally 30 Million?

[The Manticoran Empire]

I did lose. It is just that, by the time I did lose, the war had lasted more than 9 years and my Navy was powerful enough to make invading my heartland impossible. Losses in Afrikaa were mounting for Arengin and your forces in Tamir simply could not match mine. The GDU forces in Halium were crushed by me. The basic consensus is that the war ended in a GDU victory but the map returned to status quo ante bellum for the most part.

There would be differences, without doubt. For example, Ruskland in particular would have to end in a pretty bad position due to the fact that we literally Just had a war that i won a few years before. Plus, what about War Debt and colony concessions? Wasnt your army literally 30 Million?

Yeah. That amounted to 5.4% of my population and more than your entire country. You're peacetime army was over 3% of yours. Demographics ALONE doomed you. Ruskland had 10 times your population available to him and the only reason you could do so well was the fact that Arengin forced him to fight on two fronts by fighting on three fronts himself. Arengin carried the GDU. He fought Traans in Afrikaa, me in Nuwe Afrikaa and on the high seas, and Rusk.
Most of the world did end in a pretty bad position. Traansval and Rusk because they got invaded. You and Wargloria simply because you had so few people to begin with. Arengin and I combined lost 18 million soldiers. Over the course of the war, I drafted 26,420,092 men and lost 7,099,497. 1.45% of my population was killed or wounded serving the Empire. Arengin lost, by his own statement, between 9 and 11 million men. Against his population of 602 million, that is between 1.49% and 1.83% of his population. Against the population you had, which was 29,000,000, a rate of loss like that would range from AT LEAST 420,500 men to 530,000 men, over HALF of your peacetime army. Don't even TRY to act like you could POSSIBLY come out of this war in good shape. The GDU lost in Nuwe Afrikaa and lost in Tamir because you didn't have enough people and Arengin was fighting a war on four fronts. After almost a full decade of fighting, peace was achieved at the cost of more than 58 million lives.

[The Manticoran Empire]

So Ruskland and Skarten will both be getting colonies in the Enigma wastes. Ruskland also survived the Nine Years War. This is the deal so take it or leave it. I don't care.

[Ruskland-Preuben]

So Ruskland and Skarten will both be getting colonies in the Enigma wastes. Ruskland also survived the Nine Years War. This is the deal so take it or leave it. I don't care.

Thank you friend.

[Aclus]

I know this is closed but could i do a global newspaper?

Yes you can, it would be interesting

[Ruskland-Preuben]

I'm not Ruskland and you couldn't hope to sustain the loss rate necessary to engage me. My population was 10 times what yours was. The three people that come out the best in the post war are Aclus, Arengin, and myself. Aclus simply because he was fairly uninvolved, Arengin and myself because we fought the war mostly outside of our heartlands. My industry is entirely intact at the end of the war and statistically speaking a good portion of my workforce survived.
Through Geography and Population, I came out pretty good. Arengin and Aclus have the same factors that worked in their favor.

But Ruskland didnt exactly hit me hard. I was the one on the offensive, If I remember correctly. I captured his land in the peninsula and crossed the Sea to north. My last posts were about being on the outskirts his capital. Plus, you were becoming more and more alone in the Battlefield as your Allies got taken out. You were fated to loose.

No you didn't, you were able to land a paltry force after I turned back an earlier one, Operation Saturn. Should the RP had continued that day, I would've routed your forces and be able to focus on Arengin who was being held back at the Battle of the Bog. Not to mention we had developed planes, and your forces were not in the know. With the consolidated forces I would've halted Arengin's advance through Thatcheron while dealing heavy casualties.

[Arengin Union]

I know this is closed but could i do a global newspaper?

Yes you can, it would be interesting

Im down with it.


Also Arengin wasn't as unaffected by the war, we lost a vast number of soldiers, our colonies in Afrika as well as Halium (Which was useless but ok), got a large number of our fleet destroyed. And most people in Arengin are war weary for the next decade or so. Plus though the economy is recuperating it is obviously not as powerful as Pre War.

[The Twelve Isles]

I know this is closed but could i do a global newspaper?

Yes you can, it would be interesting

I like that idea as well. I would support that.

[The Manticoran Empire]

But Ruskland didnt exactly hit me hard. I was the one on the offensive, If I remember correctly. I captured his land in the peninsula and crossed the Sea to north. My last posts were about being on the outskirts his capital. Plus, you were becoming more and more alone in the Battlefield as your Allies got taken out. You were fated to loose.

No you didn't, you were able to land a paltry force after I turned back an earlier one, Operation Saturn. Should the RP had continued that day, I would've routed your forces and be able to focus on Arengin who was being held back at the Battle of the Bog. Not to mention we had developed planes, and your forces were not in the know. With the consolidated forces I would've halted Arengin's advance through Thatcheron while dealing heavy casualties.

As explained, the only reason he got as far as he did was because you had to fight Arengin as well.

Also Arengin wasn't as unaffected by the war, we lost a vast number of soldiers, our colonies in Afrika as well as Halium (Which was useless but ok), got a large number of our fleet destroyed. And most people in Arengin are war weary for the next decade or so. Plus though the economy is recuperating it is obviously not as powerful as Pre War.

I calculated and your casualties range from 1.49% to 1.83% of your population. Based on my calculations for the population and my thoughts on how the war was fought, pretty much no one got out of it without pretty hefty manpower losses. You and I just had the people around to absorb those losses better and for longer.

I know this is closed but could i do a global newspaper?

Yes. I will telegram you when we get our IC and OOC threads up.

[The Twelve Isles]

Hey, just looked over the map and Im pretty sure I had some colonies on the Afrikaan coast, on the Dehrun Sea. If I remember correctly they were where Sylba, Baloa and Alefa are now, though I could be mistaken. However, I do remember having territorial holdings in Afrikaa, and them being on the western coast.

[Aclus]

You lads ready to rp?

[The Twelve Isles]

You lads ready to rp?

I was born ready my man. I already know what the first order of business is going to be for the Empire.

[Rannoria]

Alright so the votes for the start dates are like such so far:

1912: Traans, Aclus, Arengin, Warg

1900: Rann, Eodor, Norcourt, Mant

If there is anything wrong please say.

To be honest, i don't know.

I really want to re-do the war because i've just gotten so much better at RPing.

But then again, seeing the aftermath of the war would just be so goddamn cool too. To be honest, i don't know. It really depends on how we decide that the war ended. That is, IF it ended. But we do need a beggining point right? So i'll guess the war just ended and 1912 is when peace begins. Really,i don't know. It just would be cool to see both scenarios.

I think i'll decide depending on what would happen in a 1912 scenario (For example, what were the results of the war)

This is an 1870-1920 RP. If we ended the war here, we'd still be recovering in 1920. The 1900 start date allows you to at least have a war which we can finish. What's the point of doing a 1912 start date if the war's over? No nation can rebuild and recover completely and be combat ready for a few years. The nations who benefitted the most are just gonna be sitting around, dealing with territorial gains or whatever, and the nations that suffered the most are probably going to be stuck roleplaying by ourselves.

What's the point anymore? We just suffer for 8 years then we're done. If you want some action, just start off in like 1925 when nations are getting feisty again.

Start date tally is still 5-5