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Nator State
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Posts: 42
Founded: Oct 10, 2019
Corporate Police State

Military factbook No.3

Postby Nator State » Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:49 pm

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1270386

Hopeful third time's the charm. Waiting to be approved.

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Imperialtha
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 413
Founded: Apr 24, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Imperialtha » Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:04 pm

Due to lack of active mods we are currently considering hiring some more. As such who is interested in being a Moderator for the canon? You'll need access to discord. This is also open to non players that are in the region.

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Terra Frima
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Posts: 105
Founded: Jun 22, 2018
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Terra Frima » Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:06 pm

Waves hand
"This nation has the means to end this war in a definitive and elegant manner, we seek not destruction and conflict but a balance of power and restoration to peace, and it will be done with reason and justice from beginning to end, and the world will be grateful, only then will they see the way to true peace."

"They paint us as if we have lost the democratic traditions this nation was founded on, that can not, is not, further from the truth in this nation, do they not know what we went through? the 30 years of war that was started by men who did not listen to the people? This Republic will weather the storm, we will fight to the death and win, then welcome our enemies into our great state."

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Nator State
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Founded: Oct 10, 2019
Corporate Police State

Not I

Postby Nator State » Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:06 pm

Probably can't be a mod because I am new to the game but having the discord sounds like something useful.

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Kaiserlike
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Posts: 96
Founded: Feb 01, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Kaiserlike » Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:10 pm

Nator State wrote:Probably can't be a mod because I am new to the game but having the discord sounds like something useful.

TG Neo Rome Republic for the invite link
Hallo Ich bin eine Puppe aus Nieblham
Mein Deutsch ist nicht gut, bitte helfen mich

Recusant > Solarism. Ich bin Kaiserlike. Osphen ist eine Fälschung

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Osphen
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Posts: 309
Founded: Aug 08, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Osphen » Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:23 pm

HI I think my population should be higher than it is currently:

41,570,000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_France under Vital statistics from 1900
24 349 000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Spain Statistics since 1900
7,147,000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Portugal Statistics since 1900
I also have parts a large chunk of piedmont which according to HOI4 should have around 4,770,000 people around 1936, so i’m estimating that I should have about about 3.6-4.0 million in piedmont.

So I think my population should actually be around 76,666,000-77,000,000
hand hook man

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Terra Frima
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Posts: 105
Founded: Jun 22, 2018
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Terra Frima » Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:19 pm

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=ter ... id=1117047
Request a reapproval of this, numbers and equipment I have been changed, along with new GDP numbers
"This nation has the means to end this war in a definitive and elegant manner, we seek not destruction and conflict but a balance of power and restoration to peace, and it will be done with reason and justice from beginning to end, and the world will be grateful, only then will they see the way to true peace."

"They paint us as if we have lost the democratic traditions this nation was founded on, that can not, is not, further from the truth in this nation, do they not know what we went through? the 30 years of war that was started by men who did not listen to the people? This Republic will weather the storm, we will fight to the death and win, then welcome our enemies into our great state."

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Imperialtha
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Posts: 413
Founded: Apr 24, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Imperialtha » Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:10 am

The Heretic Amerce has ascended to Modhood
Hopefully this will allow the mods to be more productive.

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Imperialtha
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Posts: 413
Founded: Apr 24, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Imperialtha » Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:39 am

Nator State wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1270386

Hopeful third time's the charm. Waiting to be approved.

So the factbook overall is confusing, NRR should send you a TG with the discord invite there, and the mods can better help you.
the main problem is difficulty in determining how many men are where. It appears that each of the ships, voyager, challenger, and destiny have 10080 men attached to them each. But then the Maritime Commissioned Corps has 13738 which leaves very little for the rest of the military as the total appears to be at around 45000?
Also we need to know where in Nator the Voyager, Challenger, and destiny are and what type of ships they are.
Also the rest of the Maritime Commissioned Corps' ships locations.
Also you cannot have the T-26 as that belongs to Der Orden (Sobeskia) and he did not approve such a deal.
The tech from Shingou (mes) is good though, just mention they are exports from Shingou.

Mes wrote:Canon Application:
Your IC Nation: Shinguo
NPC Nation Name: Jara
Capital name: Yanbai (dubai)
Population: 50 million
Major Cultures: Arab, Persian and minority Javanese
RL Equivalent Cultures: Arab, Persian and minority Javanese
Major Languages (of the nation): Persian (Parsi)
RL Equivalent Languages: Persian (parsi)
Government System (short description): (Sonacism)
Economic System (short description): (Sonacism with Shinguo characteristics)
Head of State: (Jalal Al-din)
Head of Government: (Saoshyant Zarathustra)
Major religions (bold any state religions): (Zoroastrianism, Nestorianism, Manicheanism)


Approved but lower population to 3M the GPD of Jara is .85B

Terra Frima wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/nation=terra_frima/detail=factbook/id=1117047
Request a reapproval of this, numbers and equipment I have been changed, along with new GDP numbers

your new budget is way too small, you need to include both personnel costs (active military * GDPpC) and upkeep costs as found on the blank tech sheet
It would be more helpful if your division locations corresponded to the map i.e. 1st army consists of
It would also help if you had a dedicated group for logistics around 1/7th of your total force is a good number.

Osphen wrote:HI I think my population should be higher than it is currently:

41,570,000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_France under Vital statistics from 1900
24 349 000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Spain Statistics since 1900
7,147,000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Portugal Statistics since 1900
I also have parts a large chunk of piedmont which according to HOI4 should have around 4,770,000 people around 1936, so i’m estimating that I should have about about 3.6-4.0 million in piedmont.

So I think my population should actually be around 76,666,000-77,000,000

77M is Approved add this population to your app so it's easy to reference
your economy has also been updated

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Mes
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Posts: 215
Founded: Jul 02, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Mes » Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:00 pm

Imperialtha wrote:
Nator State wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1270386

Hopeful third time's the charm. Waiting to be approved.

So the factbook overall is confusing, NRR should send you a TG with the discord invite there, and the mods can better help you.
the main problem is difficulty in determining how many men are where. It appears that each of the ships, voyager, challenger, and destiny have 10080 men attached to them each. But then the Maritime Commissioned Corps has 13738 which leaves very little for the rest of the military as the total appears to be at around 45000?
Also we need to know where in Nator the Voyager, Challenger, and destiny are and what type of ships they are.
Also the rest of the Maritime Commissioned Corps' ships locations.
Also you cannot have the T-26 as that belongs to Der Orden (Sobeskia) and he did not approve such a deal.
The tech from Shingou (mes) is good though, just mention they are exports from Shingou.

Mes wrote:Canon Application:
Your IC Nation: Shinguo
NPC Nation Name: Jara
Capital name: Yanbai (dubai)
Population: 3 mill
Major Cultures: Arab, Persian and minority Javanese
RL Equivalent Cultures: Arab, Persian and minority Javanese
Major Languages (of the nation): Persian (Parsi)
RL Equivalent Languages: Persian (parsi)
Government System (short description): (Sonacism)
Economic System (short description): (Sonacism with Shinguo characteristics)
Head of State: (Jalal Al-din)
Head of Government: (Saoshyant Zarathustra)
Major religions (bold any state religions): (Zoroastrianism, Nestorianism, Manicheanism)


Approved but lower population to 3M the GPD of Jara is .85B

Terra Frima wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/nation=terra_frima/detail=factbook/id=1117047
Request a reapproval of this, numbers and equipment I have been changed, along with new GDP numbers

your new budget is way too small, you need to include both personnel costs (active military * GDPpC) and upkeep costs as found on the blank tech sheet
It would be more helpful if your division locations corresponded to the map i.e. 1st army consists of
It would also help if you had a dedicated group for logistics around 1/7th of your total force is a good number.

Osphen wrote:HI I think my population should be higher than it is currently:

41,570,000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_France under Vital statistics from 1900
24 349 000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Spain Statistics since 1900
7,147,000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Portugal Statistics since 1900
I also have parts a large chunk of piedmont which according to HOI4 should have around 4,770,000 people around 1936, so i’m estimating that I should have about about 3.6-4.0 million in piedmont.

So I think my population should actually be around 76,666,000-77,000,000

77M is Approved add this population to your app so it's easy to reference
your economy has also been updated


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Last edited by Mes on Sat Nov 16, 2019 1:28 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Greater Ergonia
Lobbyist
 
Posts: 19
Founded: Apr 28, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Greater Ergonia » Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:03 pm

Requesting that all time periods associated with the Recusant faith be changed from Anno Domini (AD), to Anno Lucis (AL)
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♔The sun shall never set on the Ergonian Empire♔
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Hey, I'm Ergonia (Also known as NAC or GA if you''ve known me that long) just your typical nerd who loves history, and world-building
I don't bite, so if you want to talk with me, shoot a telegram my way

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Imperialtha
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Posts: 413
Founded: Apr 24, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Imperialtha » Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:37 am

Greater Ergonia wrote:Requesting that all time periods associated with the Recusant faith be changed from Anno Domini (AD), to Anno Lucis (AL)

APPROVED
history doc will be updated eventually, prolly tonight

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Terra Frima
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 105
Founded: Jun 22, 2018
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Terra Frima » Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:26 pm

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=ter ... id=1117047
Did the changes, the only thing that was not heavily done was Army group stuff, I don't really think that information is all too important at this time, of course, come around to wartime I will write all the information out, but for peacetime, I think knowing where the units are located is more pressing to know.
"This nation has the means to end this war in a definitive and elegant manner, we seek not destruction and conflict but a balance of power and restoration to peace, and it will be done with reason and justice from beginning to end, and the world will be grateful, only then will they see the way to true peace."

"They paint us as if we have lost the democratic traditions this nation was founded on, that can not, is not, further from the truth in this nation, do they not know what we went through? the 30 years of war that was started by men who did not listen to the people? This Republic will weather the storm, we will fight to the death and win, then welcome our enemies into our great state."

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Mes
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Posts: 215
Founded: Jul 02, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Mes » Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:42 am

Is cotour allowed to take Tiangdu

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Amaurita
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Posts: 255
Founded: Apr 23, 2017
New York Times Democracy

Postby Amaurita » Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:55 pm

Seeking approval on the U.S military. Naval assets are a little dry for now, once I get more resources I can expand it. : P

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1287350

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Amaurita
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Posts: 255
Founded: Apr 23, 2017
New York Times Democracy

Postby Amaurita » Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:07 am

Amaurita wrote:Seeking approval on the U.S military. Naval assets are a little dry for now, once I get more resources I can expand it. : P

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1287350


Alright, everything's up-to-date. Personnel and budgets were cut back drastically to fit constraints, so hopefully this works.

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Kaiserlike
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Posts: 96
Founded: Feb 01, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Kaiserlike » Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:40 am

I would like to spend 23 points to have a defense pact with Hyak
Hallo Ich bin eine Puppe aus Nieblham
Mein Deutsch ist nicht gut, bitte helfen mich

Recusant > Solarism. Ich bin Kaiserlike. Osphen ist eine Fälschung

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Imperialtha
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Posts: 413
Founded: Apr 24, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Imperialtha » Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:58 pm

Terra Frima wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/nation=terra_frima/detail=factbook/id=1117047
Did the changes, the only thing that was not heavily done was Army group stuff, I don't really think that information is all too important at this time, of course, come around to wartime I will write all the information out, but for peacetime, I think knowing where the units are located is more pressing to know.

Lay out a map for where your planes are located (i.e. Airbases)
lay out a map for where your ships are (i.e. where is the Battle Force, where is the Scout force)
Increase Budget to: $507,650,688

Mes wrote:Is cotour allowed to take Tiangdu


IC the two of you can announce some sort of union but until the war is over military and domestic affairs must still be handled by each respective party (i.e. Cotour handles NPF Mes handles Tiangdu). in effect a union in name only until after the war. This way Mes doesn't lose a region from his sphere of influence till after the war is done and Tiangdu and NPF establish a peace deal. Afterwards then yes in effect Cotour would control all of Yunna but be subject to the system you two agree to IC.

Amaurita wrote:
Amaurita wrote:Seeking approval on the U.S military. Naval assets are a little dry for now, once I get more resources I can expand it. : P

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1287350


Alright, everything's up-to-date. Personnel and budgets were cut back drastically to fit constraints, so hopefully this works.


mark down that you have 26,814,400$ left over in your budget
mark down the year the blank tech was produced for all blank tech
Small arms and machine guns don't have upkeep costs so you can remove that.
Rename your MBT to Medium tank
You have a choice to have either all your blank tech you have not listed a year for be mid 1920 tech (i.e 25 -28)
Or
Lower either the Medium Tank or SPG to mid 1920 instead of 1930 (the unlabeled blank tech can be whenever you want)


Kaiserlike wrote:I would like to spend 23 points to have a defense pact with Hyak


approved

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Amaurita
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Posts: 255
Founded: Apr 23, 2017
New York Times Democracy

Postby Amaurita » Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:13 pm

Amaurita wrote:Seeking approval on the U.S military. Naval assets are a little dry for now, once I get more resources I can expand it. : P

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1287350


Okay, everything is up-to-date.

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Rome Reich
Political Columnist
 
Posts: 3
Founded: Oct 12, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Rome Reich » Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:15 pm

Canon Application:
Your IC Nation: Roman Reich
NPC Nation Name: Kurgan Empire
[b]Capital name: Berlin
[b]Population:75 million
[b]Major Cultures: German Italian
[b]RL Equivalent Cultures:
[b]Major Languages (of the nation): German Italian English
[b]RL Equivalent Languages:German
[b]Government System (short description): Dictatorship
[b]Economic System (short description):capitalist
[b]Head of State: Senor Hilter
[b]Head of Government: Augtus Mussolini
[b]Major religions (bold any state religions): Recusantry
Last edited by Rome Reich on Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:13 pm, edited 2 times in total.

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Kinania
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Founded: Dec 03, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Kinania » Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:40 pm

Canon Application:
NS Nation Name: Community of Kinania
Canon Nation Name: State of Kinania
Capital name: Qadah, Kinania (Beirut, Lebanon)
Population: 14,865,500
Ideal Map Claims (please mark your capital): Kinania (Capital; See above)
Major Cultures: Kashanii, Sariwa, Bhenesi, Hebrew, Deibean
RL Equivalent Cultures: Aramean (Sariwa), Assyrian (Bhenesi), Yazidi (Deibean), Hebrew
Major Languages (of the nation): Kashan (Icumaric Language Branch)
RL Equivalent Languages: Maltese
Real Life Nation Technology Equivalent: Syria-Lebanon
Government System (short description): Federated Confessionalist Elective Monarchy

Economic System (short description): Bartero-Capitalist: Transitional period from a Pre-Capitalist barter system to a modern Capitalist market system; urban areas and coastal export regions make use of circulated currency and have more direct oversight from central government economic policies, while rural areas still makes use of barter and trade to a certain extent and are not as heavily overseen by the national and regional governments.

Social Policies (short description): Mixed social policies, varies by region and state; Urban, coastal areas tend to be more socially liberal and religiously diverse while rural, inland areas tend to be more socially conservative and religiously homogeneous. Most of the nation remains more conservative than the general world view due to high rate of religiosity, however some sects and smaller religions break from this status quo.

Religious laws enforced in different areas and different ways result in different interpretations of social policy.

Head of State: Prinċep Għoli Ashraf Sammut
Head of Government: Five-Person Directorial Council
Will you make a religion?: Y
Will you make your own calendar?: Y
Currency: Siqlu
Brief History: [WORK IN PROGRESS]
Anything to add?:

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Imperialtha
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Founded: Apr 24, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Imperialtha » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:20 am

Rome Reich wrote:Canon Application:
Your IC Nation: Roman Reich
NPC Nation Name: Kurgan Empire
Capital name: Berlin
[b]Population:75 million
[b]Major Cultures: German Italian
[b]RL Equivalent Cultures:
[b]Major Languages (of the nation): German Italian English
[b]RL Equivalent Languages:German
[b]Government System (short description): Dictatorship
[b]Economic System (short description):capitalist
[b]Head of State: Senor Hilter
[b]Head of Government: Augtus Mussolini
[b]Major religions (bold any state religions): Recusantry


A couple major things, German culture belongs to Kaiserlike and Italian culture belongs to Aus, neither agreed to allowing you to share their cultures. Nor would Kurgan having similar to Aus culture make historical sense. Even bigger is that Kurgan was once controlled by a player, as such the mods want there to be a level of consistency as currently, even though that player dropped, Kurgan is still that Kurgan.
Here's Kurgan that exists IC viewtopic.php?p=35822314#p35822314
most of it would have to stay the same.
Now if you don't want to take over Kurgan, there are two Germanic inactive players. Goldritter and Den Orden Der Meridiane. the latter of which would be the closest to what you want. Dodm was a former colony of Kaiserlike (IC version of the HRE), but it's mostly Mormons (called Morgigites) and Hitler is the current chancellor (though this IC hitler is a bit different from IRL hitler). For more info talk to Sobe
Here's Dodm's app for reference (again most would have to stay the same) viewtopic.php?p=35304369#p35304369
Thus the app is denied.


Kinania wrote:Canon Application:
[b]NS Nation Name: Community of Kinania
Canon Nation Name: State of Kinania
Capital name: Qadah, Kinania (Beirut, Lebanon)
Population: 14,865,500
Ideal Map Claims (please mark your capital): Kinania (Capital; See above)
Major Cultures: Kashanii, Sariwa, Bhenesi, Hebrew, Deibean
RL Equivalent Cultures: Aramean (Sariwa), Assyrian (Bhenesi), Yazidi (Deibean), Hebrew
Major Languages (of the nation): Kashan (Icumaric Language Branch)
RL Equivalent Languages: Maltese
Real Life Nation Technology Equivalent: Syria-Lebanon
Government System (short description): Federated Confessionalist Elective Monarchy

Economic System (short description): Bartero-Capitalist: Transitional period from a Pre-Capitalist barter system to a modern Capitalist market system; urban areas and coastal export regions make use of circulated currency and have more direct oversight from central government economic policies, while rural areas still makes use of barter and trade to a certain extent and are not as heavily overseen by the national and regional governments.

Social Policies (short description): Mixed social policies, varies by region and state; Urban, coastal areas tend to be more socially liberal and religiously diverse while rural, inland areas tend to be more socially conservative and religiously homogeneous. Most of the nation remains more conservative than the general world view due to high rate of religiosity, however some sects and smaller religions break from this status quo.

Religious laws enforced in different areas and different ways result in different interpretations of social policy.

Head of State: Prinċep Għoli Ashraf Sammut
Head of Government: Five-Person Directorial Council
Will you make a religion?: Y
Will you make your own calendar?: Y
Currency: Siqlu
Brief History: [WORK IN PROGRESS]
Anything to add?:


Couple things, according to IC history jews were kicked out of the holy land by the Caesii (romans) there should be a sizable recusant (christian) and Solarist (Aus' religion) in the holy land.
Note for religions you must put together a factbook that detail history, beliefs, practices, and any denominations. Also detail your calendar. Those are the only issues the mods see, fix them and you should be approved.

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Rome Reich
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Founded: Oct 12, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Rome Reich » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:49 pm

NS Nation Name: Roman Reich
Canon Nation Name: Der Orden der Meridiane. (The Order of the Meridians)
Capital name: Leningrad
Population: 32M
Ideal Map Claims (please mark your capital): https://imgur.com/a/XpxuwK2
Major Cultures: Morgigites, Native cultures.
RL Equivalent Cultures: the Mormon subculture of America combined with Germanic characteristics
Major Languages (of the nation): Renewed Egyptian [or whatever IC equivalent is of Egyptian], Old German IC equivalent
RL Equivalent Languages: Renewed Egyptian, as in what Joseph Smith's tablets were written in, and Old German.
Real Life Nation Technology Equivalent Russian, Japanese
Government System (short description): Theodemocracy, this policy constitutes the Kingdom of God: A system made of multiple branches all centered around the Council of Fifty, the core of the government which has been made a mostly ceremonial body to an actual larger legislature, secular judiciary, ecclesiastical judiciary, and executive panel of the prophet and a secular president.
Economic System (short description): Capitalism, with government intervention to help maintain certain traditional lifestyles. Many efforts are community based.
Social Policies (short description): Tax credits for families, healthcare for the destitute, and housing for the most worst off. All funded by the sole legal charity of the state.
Head of State: Lennon Mccartney
Head of Government: Stalin A.Trump
Will you make a religion?: Yes, Morgigism (Factbook to be made)
Will you make your own calendar?: No
Currency: Das Morgigitenzeichen
Brief History: Originally a colony of the Recusant Holy Imperial Empire, lost in the great war between it and the Osphenians. When the Osphenians attempted to impose their will a great revolutionary leader rose up named Josef Schmidt rose up and thus began the Morgigite movement against the Osphenar oppressors. Joesf Schmidt himself was guided by god, with the messages taught to him by the Silberplatten, brought to him by the Angel Moreon. He died towards the end of the war against the Osphenar oppressors leaving the role of Prophet to his close friend, Hellbraun Jung who finished setting up Schimdt's Theodemokratie and thus the orderly state.

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Terra Frima
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Posts: 105
Founded: Jun 22, 2018
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Terra Frima » Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:13 pm

Imperialtha wrote: stuff


Added places to the air and naval units
"This nation has the means to end this war in a definitive and elegant manner, we seek not destruction and conflict but a balance of power and restoration to peace, and it will be done with reason and justice from beginning to end, and the world will be grateful, only then will they see the way to true peace."

"They paint us as if we have lost the democratic traditions this nation was founded on, that can not, is not, further from the truth in this nation, do they not know what we went through? the 30 years of war that was started by men who did not listen to the people? This Republic will weather the storm, we will fight to the death and win, then welcome our enemies into our great state."

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Mes
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Posts: 215
Founded: Jul 02, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Mes » Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:06 pm

I’d like to spend my points on suluwesei for a defensive pact towards it being a gradual sphere of influence

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