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The Imperial Reach
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Postby The Imperial Reach » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:18 pm

Nu-Amerika wrote:
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That's a bummer, really. Gods are usually a legit thing in fantasy universes.

Maybe they can exist just not be very powerful? Like they can only influence the world to a certain degree and in certain ways?


I actually like the fact that the gods don't exist. Won't stop me from having my fanatical order order of heathen priests, either. That's just me though. Never been one for clerics or pallys ;)


Who says you couldn't have that to begin with?

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That's a bummer, really. Gods are usually a legit thing in fantasy universes.

Maybe they can exist just not be very powerful? Like they can only influence the world to a certain degree and in certain ways?

No fantasy universe is beholden to the tropes of others. I think this world works better without actual gods.


I don't, personally. If you go so far as to have dragons I think it's only fair to have gods involved too.
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Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:21 pm

The Imperial Reach wrote:
Nu-Amerika wrote:
I actually like the fact that the gods don't exist. Won't stop me from having my fanatical order order of heathen priests, either. That's just me though. Never been one for clerics or pallys ;)


Who says you couldn't have that to begin with?

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:No fantasy universe is beholden to the tropes of others. I think this world works better without actual gods.


I don't, personally. If you go so far as to have dragons I think it's only fair to have gods involved too.


But why? What’s the thematic message then? Gods imply a world beyond our own, a creation by a higher power which is knowable by humanity, and more importantly, a black-and-white absolute morality. Dragons can just be beasts with enormous power. Gods do not follow logically from dragons.
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Nu-Amerika
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Postby Nu-Amerika » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:23 pm

The Imperial Reach wrote:
Nu-Amerika wrote:
I actually like the fact that the gods don't exist. Won't stop me from having my fanatical order order of heathen priests, either. That's just me though. Never been one for clerics or pallys ;)


Who says you couldn't have that to begin with?


Well, nobody. That's why I have them :lol: Seriously though, I like it better without Gods. It puts more focus on us.

Btw Norv, i'm going to have an an emissary show up to your city soon. Maybe next post, but probably the one after. He/she will most likely come by sea, so i'll be messaging you to get a feel for what to expect from your port/docks, who/where an emissary would seek out to meet with your city officials. If that's all alright

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Postby Andsed » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:25 pm

The Imperial Reach wrote:
Nu-Amerika wrote:
I actually like the fact that the gods don't exist. Won't stop me from having my fanatical order order of heathen priests, either. That's just me though. Never been one for clerics or pallys ;)


Who says you couldn't have that to begin with?

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:No fantasy universe is beholden to the tropes of others. I think this world works better without actual gods.


I don't, personally. If you go so far as to have dragons I think it's only fair to have gods involved too.

Not really I mean I personally think that is much cooler to have dragons be some natural force rather than just a creation of a god. But anyways I'm guessing the dragon attack news has not spread to the north yet so I don't think I will address in my next post.
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Postby Reverend Norv » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:39 pm

Nu-Amerika wrote:
The Imperial Reach wrote:
Who says you couldn't have that to begin with?


Well, nobody. That's why I have them :lol: Seriously though, I like it better without Gods. It puts more focus on us.

Btw Norv, i'm going to have an an emissary show up to your city soon. Maybe next post, but probably the one after. He/she will most likely come by sea, so i'll be messaging you to get a feel for what to expect from your port/docks, who/where an emissary would seek out to meet with your city officials. If that's all alright


Sure, I'll TG you some details.

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Postby Former Citizens of the Nimbus System » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:55 pm

Decided to create a map before I work on my post! Would anyone mind if I edit my profile to move the galena deposits onto Syros itself? This island's bigger than I thought.
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Postby Reverend Norv » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:59 pm

Former Citizens of the Nimbus System wrote:Decided to create a map before I work on my post! Would anyone mind if I edit my profile to move the galena deposits onto Syros itself? This island's bigger than I thought.


I think that's fine. Go ahead.

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Postby Former Citizens of the Nimbus System » Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:00 pm

Reverend Norv wrote:
Former Citizens of the Nimbus System wrote:Decided to create a map before I work on my post! Would anyone mind if I edit my profile to move the galena deposits onto Syros itself? This island's bigger than I thought.


I think that's fine. Go ahead.

Thank you!
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Postby Tasuirin » Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:32 pm

The Imperial Reach wrote:
Tasuirin wrote:From my point of view, the gods don't actually exist, though anyone can attribute things, even somewhat miraculous circumstances, to the gods. A lot of people would have been religious at the time, so it's not unusual.


That's a bummer, really. Gods are usually a legit thing in fantasy universes.

Maybe they can exist just not be very powerful? Like they can only influence the world to a certain degree and in certain ways?

To clarify, in my opinion they don't exist in the world. I kinda wanted to leave the matter of their existence as inherently vague. Maybe they do, maybe they don't. But that does mean that likely they won't be giving any massive boons to other cities.

I don't think they exist, but that's my theory as a player of the RP, not my decree as OP.
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⊱ ──── {.⋅ ☭ ★ ☭ ★ ☭ ⋅.} ──── ⊰
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The Hoosier Alliance
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Postby The Hoosier Alliance » Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:32 pm

Tasuirin wrote:To clarify, in my opinion they don't exist in the world. I kinda wanted to leave the matter of their existence as inherently vague. Maybe they do, maybe they don't. But that does mean that likely they won't be giving any massive boons to other cities.

I don't think they exist, but that's my theory as a player of the RP, not my decree as OP.

Nice. Never expected Thal himself to strike down an entire enemy army or anything, lol. But at least they totally might exist.
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Postby The Hoosier Alliance » Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:35 pm

So, Jade, how do you plan on reacting to Imperial's offer?
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Postby Jade Confederacy » Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:11 pm

The Hoosier Alliance wrote:So, Jade, how do you plan on reacting to Imperial's offer?

Im kinda split, on one hand hes not asking for much but on the other, it will be boring if we all teamed up with no opposition. The dragon attacks will spread from the south so we'll be among the last to get hit. It will be good if we have something to occupy ourselves in the meantime and a war sounds dandy.

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Postby The Hoosier Alliance » Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:15 pm

Jade Confederacy wrote:Im kinda split, on one hand hes not asking for much but on the other, it will be boring if we all teamed up with no opposition. The dragon attacks will spread from the south so we'll be among the last to get hit. It will be good if we have something to occupy ourselves in the meantime and a war sounds dandy.

True. Honestly, Thalmos could go either way too.
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- Thomas Jefferson
What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms
- Thomas Jefferson
Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it
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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety
- Benjamin Franklin
To disarm the people is the most effectual way to enslave them
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Postby Farahdeen » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:24 pm

I don't know about y'all, but I'm planning on the Syprians absolutely dismissing dragons and the idea that any attack happened on Sidonian cities, that is until a dragon attacks Sypria and the state is caught off guard. What a fUN post that will be to write, the sorrows of the people.

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Postby Greater Hudian Republic » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:38 am

Was considering signup with a thieves guild/pirate city-state, do you guys think that'd be okay or
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Postby Tasuirin » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:18 am

Greater Hudian Republic wrote:Was considering signup with a thieves guild/pirate city-state, do you guys think that'd be okay or

Either of those would be fine, as long as the culture of said city state is Greek-ish.
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Postby Tasuirin » Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:44 am

Sorry I still haven't been able to update the roster. Family issues. I'll try to get it done by tomorrow.
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⊱ ──── {.⋅ ☭ ★ ☭ ★ ☭ ⋅.} ──── ⊰
⊱ ──── {.⋅ ATHEIST ⋅.} ──── ⊰
⊱ ──── {.⋅ CELTIC ⋅.} ──── ⊰
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Kylantha
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Postby Kylantha » Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:45 am

Hmmm.

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Postby Former Citizens of the Nimbus System » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:00 am

Kylantha wrote:Hmmm.

HMMMMM.
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Nu-Amerika
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Postby Nu-Amerika » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:19 pm

Yall are slacking, ill try and have my post done by tonight

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Postby Tasuirin » Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:29 pm

Nu-Amerika wrote:Yall are slacking, ill try and have my post done by tonight

Yeah, not sure if deading or just slumping.
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⊱ ──── {.⋅ ☭ ★ ☭ ★ ☭ ⋅.} ──── ⊰
⊱ ──── {.⋅ ATHEIST ⋅.} ──── ⊰
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The Imperial Reach
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Postby The Imperial Reach » Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:35 pm

Nu-Amerika wrote:Yall are slacking, ill try and have my post done by tonight

Tasuirin wrote:
Nu-Amerika wrote:Yall are slacking, ill try and have my post done by tonight

Yeah, not sure if deading or just slumping.


Not really anything I can do until either Hoosier or Jade figure out what they're doing. Honestly I don't care either way what they pick, I have plans drawn up for whatever move they make. ;)
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Postby The Hoosier Alliance » Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:37 pm

The Imperial Reach wrote:
Not really anything I can do until either Hoosier or Jade figure out what they're doing. Honestly I don't care either way what they pick, I have plans drawn up for whatever move they make. ;)

I'm kinda waiting on responses to the messages I sent out before I post. If that don't happen soon, I'll just respond to you then.
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What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms
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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety
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To disarm the people is the most effectual way to enslave them
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Postby Toaslandia » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:47 pm

Tasuirin wrote:
Nu-Amerika wrote:Yall are slacking, ill try and have my post done by tonight

Yeah, not sure if deading or just slumping.

I just really can't post until something major in Rheas, dragons, or Erlend happens.
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Postby Reverend Norv » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:49 pm

Nu-Amerika wrote:Yall are slacking, ill try and have my post done by tonight


Since we are all lining up excuses, heck, I’ve been waiting for you. But once you post, I will, and we’ll at least create something for folks on Sidonia to do.

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