Of Iron and Fire (Ancient/City-State/Fantasy, OOC, OPEN)

[Nea Byzantia]

-SNIP-

Hmm, possibly an immidiate threat and rival or an addition in my Coalition against Thassalos.

So I hope this doesn't turn into a Land Power vs Sea Power scenario

[Reverend Norv]

OF IRON AND FIRE APPLICATION

NS NAME: Farahdeen
CITY NAME: Sypria

Looks good to me. Unless Tasuirin has any strong objections, you can consider yourself accepted.

Bonus points, incidentally, to any students of history who can identify the actual ancient military formation on which Propylea's innovative keirones are based.

[Skarten]

I shall now tag this thread, because this RP seems interesting

[Robo-Nixon]

OF IRON AND FIRE APPLICATION

NS NAME: Farahdeen
CITY NAME: Sypria

Looks good to me. Unless Tasuirin has any strong objections, you can consider yourself accepted.

Bonus points, incidentally, to any students of history who can identify the actual ancient military formation on which Propylea's innovative keirones are based.

Were I well-versed in ancient military history I would have made a guess, but I'll leave it to someone better suited. Nice post anyways!

[Andsed]

OF IRON AND FIRE APPLICATION

NS NAME: Farahdeen
CITY NAME: Sypria

Looks good to me. Unless Tasuirin has any strong objections, you can consider yourself accepted.

Bonus points, incidentally, to any students of history who can identify the actual ancient military formation on which Propylea's innovative keirones are based.

I would guess my knowledge of military history is mainly based around the world wars and Napoleonic wars.

[Farahdeen]

Welp, there goes my naval monopoly. Unless you want to be friends?

Yeah sure that's fine by me.

Hmm, possibly an immidiate threat and rival or an addition in my Coalition against Thassalos.

Can you tell me a little bit about the coalition? I think it's very likely that Sypria and other naval powers in Pelagia or Rhea would have fought with Sypria throughout her history.

Hmm, possibly an immidiate threat and rival or an addition in my Coalition against Thassalos.

So I hope this doesn't turn into a Land Power vs Sea Power scenario

My Phirsis warriors can still fight on land, they just prefer to fight on a boat and at sea. If ya want we can have some land battles together, though I have to admit the size of your population scares me.

Looks good to me. Unless Tasuirin has any strong objections, you can consider yourself accepted.

Bonus points, incidentally, to any students of history who can identify the actual ancient military formation on which Propylea's innovative keirones are based.

Thanks! I don't know enough about ancient militarys to have a guess, though it doesn't seem to be the phalanx.

[Tasuirin]

OF IRON AND FIRE APPLICATION

NS NAME: Farahdeen
CITY NAME: Sypria

Looks good to me. Unless Tasuirin has any strong objections, you can consider yourself accepted.

No objections, I'll add to the roster when I get time.

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OF IRON AND FIRE APPLICATION

NS NAME: Farahdeen
CITY NAME: Sypria

Welp, there goes my naval monopoly. Unless you want to be friends?

Oi! Duopoly, plez!

[Robo-Nixon]

Hmm, possibly an immidiate threat and rival or an addition in my Coalition against Thassalos.

Can you tell me a little bit about the coalition? I think it's very likely that Sypria and other naval powers in Pelagia or Rhea would have fought with Sypria throughout her history.

The 'coalition' is very much a work in progress but with Thassalos being the foremost, albeit not unchallenged and monopolizing, trade power with a very favorable location, Salenippos will look to wage war. It sounds possible to me that Sypria and Salenippos may have clashed before too though, but the primary rival for it is Thassalos.

[Skarten]

You know, i really wonder which type of State i should go with. Mad Militaristic Memes trying to conquer people with their Pointy Tools? (Un)Trustworthy Traders? Or the Fantastic Foreigners from the one-day-to-be land of military interventions?

[Jade Confederacy]

The 'coalition' is very much a work in progress but with Thassalos being the foremost, albeit not unchallenged and monopolizing, trade power with a very favorable location, Salenippos will look to wage war. It sounds possible to me that Sypria and Salenippos may have clashed before too though, but the primary rival for it is Thassalos.

Yes, Thassalos has a very advantageous trade position but it is also serving a vital role safeguarding the region from pirates with its navy. Piracy was a major problem at this age since it was extremely lucrative and if the Thassalos navy is wiped, it would leave a power vacuum. Since their main advantage is their position, i don't know what can be gained in a war. The only trigger i can think of is if they're demanding tolls for safe passage across the strait.

[Nu-Amerika]

OF IRON AND FIRE APPLICATION

NS NAME: Nu-Amerika

CITY NAME: Gylead

POPULATION: 375,000

SYMBOL OF CITY: A golden serpent on a black and white field.

LOCATION OF CITY:

MAJOR COLOURS OF CITY: Black/White/Gold

GOVERNMENT TYPE: Oligarchy

CULTURE OF CITY: The people of Gylead are enigmatic, extravagant, and proud. They worship a single god who they believe to be the creator of the world, called Gan, while viewing all others as false. There is a relatively large slave class, some of which is voluntary as the poor can sometimes earn freedom as royal servants or by distinguishing themselves in the military. Scholars, philosophers, and successful merchants are considered the cornerstones of society, with an emphasis on sea-based trade, astronomy, and engineering. Women are considered equals but may not serve in the military. The city is ruled by Masters from the noble Houses who govern specific aspects of the city-state such as trade, science, and warfare.

CIVIC SPECIALISATIONS: The Gyl are skilled miners and engineers, particularly when it comes to siege weapons. Gytian ships are known for their speed and craftsmanship, and their rare stones are prized across all continents.
MILITARY SPECIALISATIONS: Gylead's military employs war-machines during battle and specializes in city-defense.
COMPOSITION OF ARMY: The entire military numbers 38,000, A significant portion of which are slaves seeking citizenship, the high ranking units consisting of nobles and career soldiers, and the rest being free men looking to earn status and glory.
NUMBER OF SHIPS: 32 military ships used mainly for defense/escorting trade vessels, 83 merchant ships.

HISTORY OF CITY: Gylead was established long ago by a large tribe who were widely hated and considered to be heretics, as they chose to revere a single, strange God who they called Gan while openly calling the others in the Telenian pantheon false. Rumor spread that the Gyl made sacrifices to Gan, often of children. Only the Gyl themselves know whether or not these accusations were true, but they were expelled from first Rheas, then Pelagia, before finally settling on the coast of Sidonia. Mistrust of the Gyl slowly waned, though it never went away completely, but the city eventually became an important and successful part of the empire through innovation and trade. At first the Gyl relied heavily on the sea for sustenance, though eventually they were able to devise a vast irrigation system that lead to the cultivation of a variety of crops native to the continent. Their banners show the Old Serpent, an aspect of Gan and a symbol of their wealth and wisdom.

#OIAF app - DO NOT DELETE

[Tasuirin]

You know, i really wonder which type of State i should go with. Mad Militaristic Memes trying to conquer people with their Pointy Tools? (Un)Trustworthy Traders? Or the Fantastic Foreigners from the one-day-to-be land of military interventions?

Whatever it is, I'd recommend making it Telenian, i.e: pretty much Greek in design, and following the pantheon. We've had a lot of cities so far that are different, and while that's no issue, and they are well designed, I'd say that until we get more people on board, we should cap it there.

[Robo-Nixon]

The 'coalition' is very much a work in progress but with Thassalos being the foremost, albeit not unchallenged and monopolizing, trade power with a very favorable location, Salenippos will look to wage war. It sounds possible to me that Sypria and Salenippos may have clashed before too though, but the primary rival for it is Thassalos.

Yes, Thassalos has a very advantageous trade position but it is also serving a vital role safeguarding the region from pirates with its navy. Piracy was a major problem at this age since it was extremely lucrative and if the Thassalos navy is wiped, it would leave a power vacuum. Since their main advantage is their position, i don't know what can be gained in a war. The only trigger i can think of is if they're demanding tolls for safe passage across the strait.

I think my state is more short-sighted than this, however. Thassalos is the hereditary enemy and whether or not Salenippos would have any possibility to fill that power vacuum is not a serious issue for the latter. It should be noted that an ideal successful war for Salenippos would mean not the destruction or conquest of Thassalos but its humiliation, weakening and spoils of war. Let's also enquire as to what Thassalos's actual trade policy would be.

[Skarten]

You know, i really wonder which type of State i should go with. Mad Militaristic Memes trying to conquer people with their Pointy Tools? (Un)Trustworthy Traders? Or the Fantastic Foreigners from the one-day-to-be land of military interventions?

Whatever it is, I'd recommend making it Telenian, i.e: pretty much Greek in design, and following the pantheon. We've had a lot of cities so far that are different, and while that's no issue, and they are well designed, I'd say that until we get more people on board, we should cap it there.

So you are saying that's not supposed to be an city-state then? I think i don't understand the last part of your comment

[Robo-Nixon]

Whatever it is, I'd recommend making it Telenian, i.e: pretty much Greek in design, and following the pantheon. We've had a lot of cities so far that are different, and while that's no issue, and they are well designed, I'd say that until we get more people on board, we should cap it there.

So you are saying that's not supposed to be an city-state then? I think i don't understand the last part of your comment

I think he is saying that your City State should culturally reflect Ancient Greece more than anything else and fit with the pantheons described in the first two opening post. Creative freedoms can probably be taken but staying Telenian is probably for the best.

[Tasuirin]

OF IRON AND FIRE APPLICATION

NS NAME: Nu-Amerika

CITY NAME: Gylead

I like the app, however, I would ask you to consider the location. Generally, East Sidonia is more Telenian than the East, and the further south you go, the further away from Telen-proper, and thus any repressive repercussions that may bring. If you are okay with the odd band of zealots coming over to raid you every now and again, where you are is fine, but remember that Erethios did the same kind of journey that you did and ended up way south to escape. You probably wouldn't want to go that far south, but just a heads up before I formally accept you.

So you are saying that's not supposed to be an city-state then? I think i don't understand the last part of your comment

I think he is saying that your City State should culturally reflect Ancient Greece more than anything else and fit with the pantheons described in the first two opening post. Creative freedoms can probably be taken but staying Telenian is probably for the best.

That's pretty much it. Heheh. Don't worry, I've had other people complain that I have a very round-about way of speaking.

[Nu-Amerika]

Well if that's the case let me know if I should nix my monotheism idea OP.

[Tasuirin]

Well if that's the case let me know if I should nix my monotheism idea OP.

No no, like I say, your history makes sense of it. As far as I understand, you're culturally Telenian, just, like Erethios, following what others would label a 'cult', so you've escaped to another area. Just asking you to consider the area you've chosen and the likelihood that people would raid you there.

[Nu-Amerika]

Well if that's the case let me know if I should nix my monotheism idea OP.

No no, like I say, your history makes sense of it. As far as I understand, you're culturally Telenian, just, like Erethios, following what others would label a 'cult', so you've escaped to another area. Just asking you to consider the area you've chosen and the likelihood that people would raid you there.

Alright cool let me take a look at the ol' map for a sec.

[Farahdeen]

Can you tell me a little bit about the coalition? I think it's very likely that Sypria and other naval powers in Pelagia or Rhea would have fought with Sypria throughout her history.

The 'coalition' is very much a work in progress but with Thassalos being the foremost, albeit not unchallenged and monopolizing, trade power with a very favorable location, Salenippos will look to wage war. It sounds possible to me that Sypria and Salenippos may have clashed before too though, but the primary rival for it is Thassalos.

Sypria could help I guess against Thassalos, since Thassalos is a threat to Syprian trade. The ocean just southeast of Sypria is probably going to be the main area of trade for the city. I think the sea where Xenos, Nomos, and Salenippos are will be a popular place for the Syprians to try and gain control of.Thassalos looks like it'll control trade with the continent of Rhea though.

[Nu-Amerika]

Location is updated. Let me know if that makes more sense. If I understood correctly, you said East Sidonia is more Telenian than West. However, I am fine with the odd raid by zealots, as this would make sense of why my military is focused primarily on defense of the city and our assets. I've also made some minor adjustments to culture/specializations.

[Tasuirin]

Why, with all my respect laid before me, do you, oh suppository of wisdom beyond my imagination, not prevail in this fight?"

Was that an intentional reference to Tony Abbott?

[Tasuirin]

Location is updated. Let me know if that makes more sense. If I understood correctly, you said East Sidonia is more Telenian than West. However, I am fine with the odd raid by zealots, as this would make sense of why my military is focused primarily on defense of the city and our assets. I've also made some minor adjustments to culture/specializations.

That is probably better for your state's ideals, yeah. Like I said before, I do like your app. So ACCEPTED! Welcome aboard! I'll add you to the roster and map when I get time.

[Reverend Norv]

Location is updated. Let me know if that makes more sense. If I understood correctly, you said East Sidonia is more Telenian than West. However, I am fine with the odd raid by zealots, as this would make sense of why my military is focused primarily on defense of the city and our assets. I've also made some minor adjustments to culture/specializations.

In your new location, you'd be in pretty close contact with Propylea, which was founded to defend the other southern cities from the Sidonian tribes. As my IC post indicates, it still spends most of its time fighting the Sidonians, though it's also assimilated to them in certain ways. It's likely that Propylea has at least once come to the rescue of Gylead from Sidonian invasion, but it also probably doesn't like the Gyl very much: rumors of child sacrifice stay disturbing for longer if the city in question is a neighbor of yours.

[Nu-Amerika]

Location is updated. Let me know if that makes more sense. If I understood correctly, you said East Sidonia is more Telenian than West. However, I am fine with the odd raid by zealots, as this would make sense of why my military is focused primarily on defense of the city and our assets. I've also made some minor adjustments to culture/specializations.

That is probably better for your state's ideals, yeah. Like I said before, I do like your app. So ACCEPTED! Welcome aboard! I'll add you to the roster and map when I get time.

Awesome thanks