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Postby Skarten » Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:54 am

Ithalian Empire wrote:Yeah, I just got promoted so I now work more hours than I used to. I will try and review apps and the like for tagali tomorrow if you can all reposted them.

I Just noticed This,but apparently the fleet limit is 300. Now that doesn't make any sense to me, and it really hurts my Military doctrine, But if i really have to,I'll change it when i can,so if you review it before i have time to do it,keep that in mind

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Postby GlobalControl » Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:34 am

Skarten wrote:
Ithalian Empire wrote:Yeah, I just got promoted so I now work more hours than I used to. I will try and review apps and the like for tagali tomorrow if you can all reposted them.

I Just noticed This,but apparently the fleet limit is 300. Now that doesn't make any sense to me, and it really hurts my Military doctrine, But if i really have to,I'll change it when i can,so if you review it before i have time to do it,keep that in mind

>Not reading the rules beforehand

Then again the rules aren't the clearest in the world and nor is the technology tree either.
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Postby Skarten » Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:32 am

GlobalControl wrote:
Skarten wrote:I Just noticed This,but apparently the fleet limit is 300. Now that doesn't make any sense to me, and it really hurts my Military doctrine, But if i really have to,I'll change it when i can,so if you review it before i have time to do it,keep that in mind

>Not reading the rules beforehand

Then again the rules aren't the clearest in the world and nor is the technology tree either.

I read the rules, I Just didnt understand it was a total of 300 including every single Type of Military Ship
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Postby Skarten » Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:44 am

Okay, I edited it to fit the 300. This Limit Completely oofed my plans on how to didtribute my navy and essentially gave a Middle finger to my doctrine, But it's abiding the rules now.

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Postby Tagali Federation » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:25 pm

App looks good. I'm a little hesitant though on the statement, "Their ships are without doubt great, and would obviously surpass those of an great other deal of alien nations." I'd prefer that the status of greatest ships be shown through actions in the IC than someone claiming it in their app. Other than that, your app looks good and I'll accept it.

As for the ship amount and size limits, those have come about after years of hosting similar Rps and having people use outrageous numbers and sizes that make war a boring numbers game. I also didn't want a huge number of ships since everyone in this Rp has only begun interstellar travel within the last hundred years atleast.
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Postby Skarten » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:29 pm

Tagali Federation wrote:App looks good. I'm a little hesitant though on the statement, "Their ships are without doubt great, and would obviously surpass those of an great other deal of alien nations." I'd prefer that the status of greatest ships be shown through actions in the IC than someone claiming it in their app. Other than that, your app looks good and I'll accept it.

As for the ship amount and size limits, those have come about after years of hosting similar Rps and having people use outrageous numbers and sizes that make war a boring numbers game. I also didn't want a huge number of ships since everyone in this Rp has only begun interstellar travel within the last hundred years atleast.

Well, i mean, it's not wrong. Not all alien nations are in the FTL Era. Of course it's gonna be greater. Some nations that i even saw here barely have an navy. It's no wonder than an imperialistic armada is going to have better ships than those. Also, as much as i agree with you, in my opinion it should just be kept realistic and have actual reasoning. An militaristic, offensive nation is obviously going to be able to make more ships than an peaceful, defensive republic, yet with a limit, both start with the same.

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Postby Skarten » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:33 pm

Also, another two questions before i go write my opening post:

-When you start, do you already know that there are other alien nations? Or do you begin isolated ,and then make the first contact?

-How do i know who are my neighbors politically?

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Postby Tagali Federation » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:38 pm

Most people have started isolated, but Tayner, Ithalian, and Biearusia started out knowing each other somewhat. If you want to talk with some of the others here about starting with knowledge of each other, go ahead.

As for who you're neighbors, right now, it's pretty much who you want to interact with at the moment. Making a map is taking a bit longer than originally thought.
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Postby Skarten » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:41 pm

Tagali Federation wrote:Most people have started isolated, but Tayner, Ithalian, and Biearusia started out knowing each other somewhat. If you want to talk with some of the others here about starting with knowledge of each other, go ahead.

As for who you're neighbors, right now, it's pretty much who you want to interact with at the moment. Making a map is taking a bit longer than originally thought.

Am i allowed to expand my fleet in RP? Because that'd be nice. For example, i really need some frigates.

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Postby Tagali Federation » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:47 pm

Yeah, just make it a gradual increase over time. I'll also be splitting the Rp into chapters with some lengthy timeskips inbetween (like 10-15 years) so people can expand fleet sizes and territory, as well as make some new technological discoveries.
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Postby Skarten » Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:37 pm

By the way, let me ask this too, how advanced is the FTL? Like, how much time does it take to jump from one system to the other?

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Postby Skarten » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:18 pm

Posted. Hope it was a good opening for my empire, giving some insight on how the top government works.

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Postby Harbertia » Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:58 pm

Skarten wrote:Posted. Hope it was a good opening for my empire, giving some insight on how the top government works.

It's a great opening, though it did make me realize the rule that we all have to use warp is now null. hahah I'm a bit - like- I wouldn't have used Warp if I didn't have to but other than that; any idea what system your ship is in?
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Postby Arkeyana » Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:07 pm

Harbertia wrote:
Skarten wrote:Posted. Hope it was a good opening for my empire, giving some insight on how the top government works.

It's a great opening, though it did make me realize the rule that we all have to use warp is now null.

Wait it is?

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Postby Beiarusia » Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:08 pm

Arkeyana wrote:
Harbertia wrote:It's a great opening, though it did make me realize the rule that we all have to use warp is now null.

Wait it is?

I don't believe so.

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Postby GlobalControl » Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:52 pm

I use hyperspace.
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Postby Skarten » Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:08 am

Harbertia wrote:
Skarten wrote:Posted. Hope it was a good opening for my empire, giving some insight on how the top government works.

It's a great opening, though it did make me realize the rule that we all have to use warp is now null. hahah I'm a bit - like- I wouldn't have used Warp if I didn't have to but other than that; any idea what system your ship is in?

It's the fifth system in the "Planned Expansion" zone. But no,i dont know. If anyone wants, It can be a system they own, so that we may start the First contact.

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Postby Skarten » Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:34 am

Harbertia wrote:
Skarten wrote:Posted. Hope it was a good opening for my empire, giving some insight on how the top government works.

It's a great opening, though it did make me realize the rule that we all have to use warp is now null. hahah I'm a bit - like- I wouldn't have used Warp if I didn't have to but other than that; any idea what system your ship is in?

Also, I used Hyperdrive because it's really just better for my nation to use It. The Hyperdrive is way simpler to have on a ship than a warp drive. Plus, each species will develop their own tech.

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Postby Harbertia » Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:59 am

Beiarusia wrote:
Arkeyana wrote:Wait it is?

I don't believe so.

The Empire of Tau wrote:What kind of FTL drives are we using? Hyperlanes, warp drive?

Tagali Federation wrote:Warp drives. Forgot to add that part to the list.


I don't think it's null either- we'll have to hear Tagali or the co-op on the subject. I see it's not stated on the OP, just implied under technology where warp is the only FTL specified.
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Postby Skarten » Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:02 pm

If anyone wants to have the first contact with the Xarakh they can just tell me, we can probably make it so that the system the ship just arrived on is already populated by a species.

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Postby Harbertia » Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:22 pm

Skarten wrote:If anyone wants to have the first contact with the Xarakh they can just tell me, we can probably make it so that the system the ship just arrived on is already populated by a species.

I'm open to such however I'm concerned that three first contacts might be a lot- and that this could start some major conflict with Hsha in the middle of it. Plus I am unsure if the Universal Union vessel has left the Ss'lee star system- in which case the appearance of this one ship could cause quite the stir. Especially due to the Shelhsh's 'assumptions' regarding the term 'Universal'.
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Postby Skarten » Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:03 pm

Harbertia wrote:
Skarten wrote:If anyone wants to have the first contact with the Xarakh they can just tell me, we can probably make it so that the system the ship just arrived on is already populated by a species.

I'm open to such however I'm concerned that three first contacts might be a lot- and that this could start some major conflict with Hsha in the middle of it. Plus I am unsure if the Universal Union vessel has left the Ss'lee star system- in which case the appearance of this one ship could cause quite the stir. Especially due to the Shelhsh's 'assumptions' regarding the term 'Universal'.

Well, it would certainly be interesting.

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Postby Harbertia » Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:37 pm

Skarten wrote:
Harbertia wrote:I'm open to such however I'm concerned that three first contacts might be a lot- and that this could start some major conflict with Hsha in the middle of it. Plus I am unsure if the Universal Union vessel has left the Ss'lee star system- in which case the appearance of this one ship could cause quite the stir. Especially due to the Shelhsh's 'assumptions' regarding the term 'Universal'.

Well, it would certainly be interesting.

That is certainly true. Your Xaraxh outnumber the Shelhsh greatly, and even the Hiran in population. Militarily the Xaraxh are closest in number to the Universal Union (both having the max number) while my fleet consists of 12 with one civilian vessel making 13. Of them only that civie ship is warp capable so as far as any offense goes there is none to fear. Politically the Universal Union is furthest from the High Empire with the Imperial Union being closer- but in some respects close to the Universal Union. Being a Federal Monarchy with republican states under a Monarch in about as much a capacity as the Commonwealth of Nations- well - it's different but close- just not very close to the High Empire. Both formed a navy to combat piracy but of the three powers in question the Imperial Union is the most primitive and least powerful.

I find myself uncertain that, while the Xaraxh did form on a planet with other sentient beings - that they'll be- amiable. The Shelhsh have already gone into a 'defeatism' regarding the Universal Union- they see things as predator and prey and the Universal Union (which they perceive to be an Intergalactic Power due to presumptions regarding the term Universal) is a bigger fish then they- in short the Shelhsh are being quite tamed but dont' like this reality of being the 'little fish in a big pond'.
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Postby Skarten » Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:23 am

Harbertia wrote:
Skarten wrote:Well, it would certainly be interesting.

That is certainly true. Your Xaraxh outnumber the Shelhsh greatly, and even the Hiran in population. Militarily the Xaraxh are closest in number to the Universal Union (both having the max number) while my fleet consists of 12 with one civilian vessel making 13. Of them only that civie ship is warp capable so as far as any offense goes there is none to fear. Politically the Universal Union is furthest from the High Empire with the Imperial Union being closer- but in some respects close to the Universal Union. Being a Federal Monarchy with republican states under a Monarch in about as much a capacity as the Commonwealth of Nations- well - it's different but close- just not very close to the High Empire. Both formed a navy to combat piracy but of the three powers in question the Imperial Union is the most primitive and least powerful.

I find myself uncertain that, while the Xaraxh did form on a planet with other sentient beings - that they'll be- amiable. The Shelhsh have already gone into a 'defeatism' regarding the Universal Union- they see things as predator and prey and the Universal Union (which they perceive to be an Intergalactic Power due to presumptions regarding the term Universal) is a bigger fish then they- in short the Shelhsh are being quite tamed but dont' like this reality of being the 'little fish in a big pond'.

Hm, that is true. But still, should i then begin the whole thing once i'm able to write a post?

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Postby Harbertia » Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:31 am

Skarten wrote:
Harbertia wrote:That is certainly true. Your Xaraxh outnumber the Shelhsh greatly, and even the Hiran in population. Militarily the Xaraxh are closest in number to the Universal Union (both having the max number) while my fleet consists of 12 with one civilian vessel making 13. Of them only that civie ship is warp capable so as far as any offense goes there is none to fear. Politically the Universal Union is furthest from the High Empire with the Imperial Union being closer- but in some respects close to the Universal Union. Being a Federal Monarchy with republican states under a Monarch in about as much a capacity as the Commonwealth of Nations- well - it's different but close- just not very close to the High Empire. Both formed a navy to combat piracy but of the three powers in question the Imperial Union is the most primitive and least powerful.

I find myself uncertain that, while the Xaraxh did form on a planet with other sentient beings - that they'll be- amiable. The Shelhsh have already gone into a 'defeatism' regarding the Universal Union- they see things as predator and prey and the Universal Union (which they perceive to be an Intergalactic Power due to presumptions regarding the term Universal) is a bigger fish then they- in short the Shelhsh are being quite tamed but dont' like this reality of being the 'little fish in a big pond'.

Hm, that is true. But still, should i then begin the whole thing once i'm able to write a post?

I would say I should start as you've posted recently but- since I still don't know if the UU is present I think we should both wait to hear from Tau on the matter. After we have word on that matter we can determine who should post. I personally would like it to be you giving a reaction- the ship has just entered an inhabited system. A reaction to the three worlds of the Shelhsh seems a suitable follow up from which I can or Tau can respond to. As far as the Shelhsh would think it's just another UU member. What I mean is an explaination of the ship's crew's reaction is a good follow up to the l ines "Little did the Xarakh know, that an great event that would shake the empire to it's boots would soon be happening. Life would be forever changed for every single Xarakh, from even the lowest farmer to the council and the High Emperor himself. No words would not be able to express the magnitude of what was about to happen."

I somehow think it's refering, in this situation, to the UU.
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