1955: The lonely Peace ( Alt, Open, OOC )

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

So btw, what's the status of nuclear weapons in this RP?

[Joohan]

So btw, what's the status of nuclear weapons in this RP?

They exist - though are limited to the United States and the former German states.

The resources necessary to create such weapons would be extremely difficult for any state ( aside from the United States ), without significant global trade, to obtain, and so are reserved to the United States ( who do have the resources to manufacture such weapons ) and Germany ( who had them before the end of the war )

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

So btw, what's the status of nuclear weapons in this RP?

They exist - though are limited to the United States and the former German states.

The resources necessary to create such weapons would be extremely difficult for any state ( aside from the United States ), without significant global trade, to obtain, and so are reserved to the United States ( who do have the resources to manufacture such weapons ) and Germany ( who had them before the end of the war )

Well, I mean there's this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_n ... ns_program
Pretty much solely based on Swedish scientists+engineers, Swedish uranium and Norwegian heavy water, and by 1950 they were ready to begin underground testing

But for RP terms only the US and Germany have nukes, right?

What about nuclear reactors?

[Joohan]

They exist - though are limited to the United States and the former German states.

The resources necessary to create such weapons would be extremely difficult for any state ( aside from the United States ), without significant global trade, to obtain, and so are reserved to the United States ( who do have the resources to manufacture such weapons ) and Germany ( who had them before the end of the war )

Well, I mean there's this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_n ... ns_program
Pretty much solely based on Swedish scientists+engineers, Swedish uranium and Norwegian heavy water, and by 1950 they were ready to begin underground testing

But for RP terms only the US and Germany have nukes, right?

What about nuclear reactors?

Says in the article that Swedes were able to test atomic weapons by the late 50's. The only thing that yall don't really have is the Plutonium, which was eventually manufactured to sufficient amounts. So, with the relativly stable situation in Scandinavia and IRL historical precedence, yall could have atomic weapons by the early 60's.

And yeah, reactors are cool. But I mean, with Norway's natural oil reserves and Finland's generous coal deposits I wouldnt see the point in such an expensive venture - but what ever.

[Joohan]

I will begin operation midwife tomorrow.

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

Well, I mean there's this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_n ... ns_program
Pretty much solely based on Swedish scientists+engineers, Swedish uranium and Norwegian heavy water, and by 1950 they were ready to begin underground testing

But for RP terms only the US and Germany have nukes, right?

What about nuclear reactors?

Says in the article that Swedes were able to test atomic weapons by the late 50's. The only thing that yall don't really have is the Plutonium, which was eventually manufactured to sufficient amounts. So, with the relativly stable situation in Scandinavia and IRL historical precedence, yall could have atomic weapons by the early 60's.

And yeah, reactors are cool. But I mean, with Norway's natural oil reserves and Finland's generous coal deposits I wouldnt see the point in such an expensive venture - but what ever.

The US has/had generous oil and coal reserves, yet they still pursued nuclear power

[Joohan]

Says in the article that Swedes were able to test atomic weapons by the late 50's. The only thing that yall don't really have is the Plutonium, which was eventually manufactured to sufficient amounts. So, with the relativly stable situation in Scandinavia and IRL historical precedence, yall could have atomic weapons by the early 60's.

And yeah, reactors are cool. But I mean, with Norway's natural oil reserves and Finland's generous coal deposits I wouldnt see the point in such an expensive venture - but what ever.

The US has/had generous oil and coal reserves, yet they still pursued nuclear power

America also ( IRL ) was the majority fighting force on three fronts ( Pacific, Italian, and European theaters ) simultaneously, supplied every single allied power ( which was a majority of the world ) and themselves all at the same time, lost less than 450,000 people ( the UK and Romania lost more people than the United States did ), spent the entire war with the highest living standards and wages in the entire world, and invented the nuke.

America is playing the game on easy mode...

But, you know, i'm not saying you can't have nuclear reactors, just pointing out that America has always been super broken and OP.

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

The US has/had generous oil and coal reserves, yet they still pursued nuclear power

America also ( IRL ) was the majority fighting force on three fronts ( Pacific, Italian, and European theaters ) simultaneously, supplied every single allied power ( which was a majority of the world ) and themselves all at the same time, lost less than 450,000 people ( the UK and Romania lost more people than the United States did ), spent the entire war with the highest living standards and wages in the entire world, and invented the nuke.

America is playing the game on easy mode...

But, you know, i'm not saying you can't have nuclear reactors, just pointing out that America has always been super broken and OP.

I guess that's the case when you control a third of the 3rd biggest continent in the world, control arguably the most valuable areas of said continent, and have no neighbours strong enough to oppose you because one is too full of ice to get a big population while the other is always plagued by corruption, infighting and crime

Someone should've tried to create a "balance of power" in the Americas, because the fact is one of the main problems was that the Europeans just kept doing stuff to the American's benefit (the French sold Louisiana, the Russians sold Alaska, the Spanish lost control of South America and Mexico (leading to a bunch of divided, weaker states than one united power to oppose the US), and the British didn't do sh*t after the War of 1812)

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

Hey Nea Byzantia, how bad and/or radical are the Orthodox Fascists exactly? Do they just hate Communists or are they the sort of "Deus Vult, Muslim holocaust" type guys?

[Nea Byzantia]

Hey Nea Byzantia, how bad and/or radical are the Orthodox Fascists exactly? Do they just hate Communists or are they the sort of "Deus Vult, Muslim holocaust" type guys?

That's for you to find out...

[Nea Byzantia]

I will begin operation midwife tomorrow.

Things are going to get mighty interesting in the Balkans.

[Greater Liverpool]

Is every 20 posts per page or 25?

[Atrilan]

Is every 20 posts per page or 25?

25.

[Greater Liverpool]

@robo-Nixon would it be cool if I had an Italian Ambassador speak in the congress?

[Greater Liverpool]

Unfortunately @Joohan I have mentioned you just yet because I don't really know what I would say to you nation just yet and besides I am done writing for a bit now just posted.

[Nea Byzantia]

Unfortunately @Joohan I have mentioned you just yet because I don't really know what I would say to you nation just yet and besides I am done writing for a bit now just posted.

Nice post btw... will be interesting to see what happens as the siege progresses.

[Joohan]

Is every 20 posts per page or 25?

25.

You know what, that's actually super helpful.

[Costa Fierro]

I'm still around and will likely make a post sometime soon.

[Joohan]

I know I said that I would post today - and I have been working on it - it's just that i want it to be perfect. Im still editing, but midwife will ( for sure ) be up today o the 29th

[Greater Liverpool]

Unfortunately @Joohan I have mentioned you just yet because I don't really know what I would say to you nation just yet and besides I am done writing for a bit now just posted.

Nice post btw... will be interesting to see what happens as the siege progresses.

I know things are going ti get interesting to say the least.

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

Hey Conwy-Shire, do you know anything about Nikolaus von Falkenhorst and whether he'd be in Germany?

[Conwy-Shire]

Hey Conwy-Shire, do you know anything about Nikolaus von Falkenhorst and whether he'd be in Germany?

He's a Wehrmacht Generaloberst, so I guess he would be in OKW Germany. He'd probably be considered a war hero for the execution of Op. Weserübung, and would have been given command during the Civil War.

And no. The OKW isn't going to give him up...

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

Hey Conwy-Shire, do you know anything about Nikolaus von Falkenhorst and whether he'd be in Germany?

He's a Wehrmacht Generaloberst, so I guess he would be in OKW Germany. He'd probably be considered a war hero for the execution of Op. Weserübung, and would have been given command during the Civil War.

And no. The OKW isn't going to give him up...

Actually, it's more like he'd be a good liaison if Germany and the Empire ever established ties, since he was one of the only Germans who actually treated the Norwegians decently (not to mention how almost no war crimes occurred during the invasion under his command and little unnecessary brutality happened)

Quote: ".....the military forces commanded by Falkenhorst, which aimed to reach an understanding with the Norwegian people and were under orders by Falkenhorst to treat Norwegians with courtesy"

As well as the fact he also opposed such radical actions against the Norwegians, quote: On 18 December 1944, Falkenhorst was dismissed from his command for opposing certain radical policies of Terboven.

Unlike many other Germans such as the administrator of Reichskommissariat Norwegen Josef Terboven

Quote: "Terboven behaved in the same petty and ruthless way he did as governor of the Rheinprovinz, and was widely disliked" "......ordering the destruction of Telavåg"

Of course the fact he commanded the invasion in the first place would probably generate much resentment, but that's just my opinion

[Conwy-Shire]

Actually, it's more like he'd be a good liaison if Germany and the Empire ever established ties, since he was one of the only Germans who actually treated the Norwegians decently (not to mention how almost no war crimes occurred during the invasion under his command and little unnecessary brutality happened)

Quote: ".....the military forces commanded by Falkenhorst, which aimed to reach an understanding with the Norwegian people and were under orders by Falkenhorst to treat Norwegians with courtesy"

Unlike many other Germans such as the administrator of Reichskommissariat Norwegen Josef Terboven

Quote: "Terboven behaved in the same petty and ruthless way he did as governor of the Rheinprovinz, and was widely disliked, not only by the Norwegians, but also by many Germans"

However, any Danish and Norwegian Resistance members who filtered into government would not like him: he carried out the Commando Order which suspended the Laws of War protecting those resistance fighters and their allies. If you think it would work, I'm not against establishing relations with Scandinavia, but I merely expect that views held by the population of Falkenhorst are mixed.

Edit: although, I would appreciate opening diplomatic ties with someone, especially as the Civil War dies down and Germany returns to the international stage

[Sawtoria]

[quote="The Imperial Warglorian Empire";p="35245472"][quote="Conwy-Shire";p="35244292"][quote="The Imperial Warglorian Empire";p="35243392"]Hey Conwy-Shire, do you know anything about Nikolaus von Falkenhorst and whether he'd be in Germany?[/quote]
He's a Wehrmacht [i]Generaloberst[/i], so I guess he would be in OKW Germany. He'd probably be considered a war hero for the execution of Op. Weserübung, and would have been given command during the Civil War.

And no. The OKW isn't going to give him up...[/quote]
Actually, it's more like he'd be a good liaison if Germany and the Empire ever established ties, since he was one of the only Germans who actually treated the Norwegians decently (not to mention how almost no war crimes occurred during the invasion under his command and little unnecessary brutality happened)

Quote: ".....the military forces commanded by Falkenhorst, which aimed to reach an understanding with the Norwegian people and were under orders by Falkenhorst to treat Norwegians with courtesy"

As well as the fact he also opposed such radical actions against the Norwegians, quote: On 18 December 1944, Falkenhorst was dismissed from his command for opposing certain radical policies of Terboven.

Unlike many other Germans such as the administrator of Reichskommissariat Norwegen Josef Terboven

Quote: "Terboven behaved in the same petty and ruthless way he did as governor of the Rheinprovinz, and was widely disliked" "......ordering the destruction of Telavåg"

Of course the fact he commanded the invasion in the first place would probably generate much resentment, but that's just my opinion[/quote]