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Postby Conwy-Shire » Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:01 pm

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NS name: Conwy-Shire
Nation Name:
Oberkommando der Wehrmacht|High Command of the German Armed Forces (OKW)
Vorläufige Deutsche Verwaltung|Provisional German Administration (VDV)
Location in the world: https://imgur.com/a/FWJKqll
Leader/s:
Wilhelm Keitel, Chief of the OKW
Alfred Jodl, Chief of Staff of the OKW
High Council of the OKW:
- Feldmarschall Gunther von Kluge
- Feldmarschall Wilhelm Ritter von Leeb
- Feldmarschall Wilhelm List
- Feldmarschall Georg von Küchler
- Feldmarschall Erich von Manstein
- Feldmarschall Friedrich Paulus
- Feldmarschall Ernst Busch
- Feldmarschall Walter Model


Population: ~98,000,000, including all of Germany, the Low Countries, Austria and Czech Republic using heavily rounded-down 1955 data (to simulate Civil War casualties)
Political Stability on a scale of 1 to 5: … … 1… it's a civil war ok…
Description of Government: Military Junta in the midst of a Civil War
Flag: VDV
Capital: Berlin


Economic prosperity on a scale of 1 to 5: 2, for though the country is a shambles there is still a weakened industrial base churning out consumer and wartime products

Agrarian or industrialized state: Industrialized, though much of Germany's industry has been levelled or depopulated during the fighting in the Civil War, the constant demand for more equipment and materiel has propped up German manufacturing, especially with an influx of women into the workforce. There is also a strong focus on industrial agriculture, as the OKW does not want a repeat of the 1917 Steckrübenwinter (Turnip Winter)

Role of Women in society: There are some Frontline Women's Units used in the Civil War as irregulars, and women outnumber men in the labour workforce. Attitudes have not shifted as radically as demographics have, and once the Civil War comes to a close there may be a rude awakening amongst demobilising soldiers…


Active military troop count: 3,920,000 (4% of population)
Total possible troop count: 7,840,000 (8% of the population, in a Total-Collapse scenario)
Average age of soldier: 18, ranging from 16-years old to 60-years old
Are your troops more tactical or fanatical? Tactical
Are your troops more organized or unconventional? Organized
Is your doctrine bold or cautious? Cautious
Average soldier on a scale of 1 to 5: 2 (Whilst there are adolescent soldiers the levels of equipment, quality and training have been steadily rebuilding from the ground-up
A general run down of your equipment: The average soldier is equipped with a standard kit only slightly sub-par to those used in 1939. Each soldier has field-webbing and an assortment of utility items: shovels, canteens, multitools and the like. The stereotypical Stahlhelm is still in use, as well as End-of-War Field Uniforms. Arms-wise, riflemen use the Gewehr 43 and the Sturmgewehr is used by some specialists. There are equipment shortages among military police and a few reserve units, who are forced to use older equipment.


Enemies: The SS and Nazi Sympathizers, Communist countries

Nation's history:
The death of Hitler in the Berghof was only the beginning of new woes for the German Reich. Though much of the war was organised and carried out by the OKW, the removal of Hitler was enough to bring the whole chain of command crashing down around the OKW's ears. The well-organised plan was not enough to pre-empt the SS response and mere hours after the December plot was carried out, the militant arm of the Nazi Party was engaged in full combat operations against their former brothers in the Wehrmacht. The Brother's War had begun.

Though the SS were committed to controlling all captured territory from 1939 onwards, the OKW made the strategic choice to consolidate its loyal forces within the confines of Großdeutschland. It was in this decision that the civil war was virtually won for the OKW, and lost for the SS. For whilst the SS stretched itself thin, battling both the well-oiled War-Machine as well as partisans, the Wehrmacht pushed out from its strongholds and bases within Germany-Proper to secure the countryside. The casualties rose through the hundreds of thousands.

The fighting was fierce, as all civil wars are. The ferocity and impetus of SS assaults shocked the more conservative OKW, and battle lines were soon planned for defence-in-depth, even if it meant temporarily ceding German territory to the SS frontline before encircling pincers could cut them off. The tactic was a bitter pill for the German people to swallow. For whilst tactically sound, the fluid tactics of the OKW allowed for the destruction of countless homes and livelihoods as the SS made desperate moves to wreak havoc on the land. The SS followed the ideal that if they could not have something, no-one could. The casualties were creeping towards one million.

Desperation arose on both sides. Wilhelm Keitel, already burdened by the atrocities he assented to during the Second World War, began to experience nervous breakdowns and was removed from executive meetings by other high-ranking field-marshals. His status (now honorary) as chief of the OKW was retained however, to provide a veneer of stability in already troubled times. The OKW executive council also passed new conscription laws soon-after, expanding the minimum and maximum range to conscript any man from 16 to 60 years-old. The SS also began conscripting younger and older men, many of whom defected or deserted into the countryside on active duty. The flow of battle slowed down into a more sedentary frontline, with the main SS holdout in the East, and the OKW holding the heartland of Germany. The bogged-down frontlines made excellent targets for V2 rockets and other Wunderwaffe in the possession of the OKW, who used any advantage they had to get an edge over the SS. Over a million Germans had died in the Brother's War.

Now in its closing stages, victory for the OKW is all but assured. The limited use of Wunderwaffen has brought the SS to its knees. SS troops no longer man the frontlines, but use guerilla tactics to deter OKW incursions into their territory and evade targetted balistic strikes. The OKW is also faced with the difficult transition back to civilian government, and the reconstruction of a country that has been wracked by civil strife for the past 8 years. The task before them is nothing short of gargantuan.


Theme: Deutschlandlied (official), Die Wacht am Rhine (unofficial)
Anything you'd like to add?: Nah thanks



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Postby Joohan » Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:08 pm

Conwy-Shire wrote:
Nation Application

NS name: Conwy-Shire
Nation Name:
Oberkommando der Wehrmacht|High Command of the German Armed Forces (OKW)
Vorläufige Deutsche Verwaltung|Provisional German Administration (VDV)
Location in the world: https://imgur.com/a/FWJKqll
Leader/s:
Wilhelm Keitel, Chief of the OKW
Alfred Jodl, Chief of Staff of the OKW


Population: ~98,000,000, including all of Germany, the Low Countries, Austria and Czech Republic using heavily rounded-down 1955 data (to simulate Civil War casualties)
Political Stability on a scale of 1 to 5: … … 1… it's a civil war ok…
Description of Government: Military Junta in the midst of a Civil War
Flag: VDV
Capital: Berlin


Economic prosperity on a scale of 1 to 5: 2, for though the country is a shambles there is still a weakened industrial base churning out consumer and wartime products

Agrarian or industrialized state: Industrialized, though much of Germany's industry has been levelled or depopulated during the fighting in the Civil War, the constant demand for more equipment and materiel has propped up German manufacturing, especially with an influx of women into the workforce. There is also a strong focus on industrial agriculture, as the OKW does not want a repeat of the 1917 Steckrübenwinter (Turnip Winter)

Role of Women in society: There are some Frontline Women's Units used in the Civil War as irregulars, and women outnumber men in the labour workforce. Attitudes have not shifted as radically as demographics have, and once the Civil War comes to a close there may be a rude awakening amongst demobilising soldiers…


Active military troop count: 3,920,000 (4% of population)
Total possible troop count: 7,840,000 (8% of the population, in a Total-Collapse scenario)
Average age of soldier: 18, ranging from 16-years old to 60-years old
Are your troops more tactical or fanatical? Tactical
Are your troops more organized or unconventional? Organized
Is your doctrine bold or cautious? Cautious
Average soldier on a scale of 1 to 5: 2 (Whilst there are adolescent soldiers the levels of equipment, quality and training have been steadily rebuilding from the ground-up
A general run down of your equipment: The average soldier is equipped with a standard kit only slightly sub-par to those used in 1939. Each soldier has field-webbing and an assortment of utility items: shovels, canteens, multitools and the like. The stereotypical Stahlhelm is still in use, as well as End-of-War Field Uniforms. Arms-wise, riflemen use the Gewehr 43 and the Sturmgewehr is used by some specialists. There are equipment shortages among military police and a few reserve units, who are forced to use older equipment.


Enemies: The SS and Nazi Sympathizers, Communist countries

Nation's history:
The death of Hitler in the Berghof was only the beginning of new woes for the German Reich. Though much of the war was organised and carried out by the OKW, the removal of Hitler was enough to bring the whole chain of command crashing down around the OKW's ears. The well-organised plan was not enough to pre-empt the SS response and mere hours after the December plot was carried out, the militant arm of the Nazi Party was engaged in full combat operations against their former brothers in the Wehrmacht. The Brother's War had begun.

Though the SS were committed to controlling all captured territory from 1939 onwards, the OKW made the strategic choice to consolidate its loyal forces within the confines of Großdeutschland. It was in this decision that the civil war was virtually won for the OKW, and lost for the SS. For whilst the SS stretched itself thin, battling both the well-oiled War-Machine as well as partisans, the Wehrmacht pushed out from its strongholds and bases within Germany-Proper to secure the countryside. The casualties rose through the hundreds of thousands.

The fighting was fierce, as all civil wars are. The ferocity and impetus of SS assaults shocked the more conservative OKW, and battle lines were soon planned for defence-in-depth, even if it meant temporarily ceding German territory to the SS frontline before encircling pincers could cut them off. The tactic was a bitter pill for the German people to swallow. For whilst tactically sound, the fluid tactics of the OKW allowed for the destruction of countless homes and livelihoods as the SS made desperate moves to wreak havoc on the land. The SS followed the ideal that if they could not have something, no-one could. The casualties were creeping towards one million.

Desperation arose on both sides. Wilhelm Keitel, already burdened by the atrocities he assented to during the Second World War, began to experience nervous breakdowns and was removed from executive meetings by other high-ranking field-marshals. His status (now honorary) as chief of the OKW was retained however, to provide a veneer of stability in already troubled times. The OKW executive council also passed new conscription laws soon-after, expanding the minimum and maximum range to conscript any man from 16 to 60 years-old. The SS also began conscripting younger and older men, many of whom defected or deserted into the countryside on active duty. The flow of battle slowed down into a more sedentary frontline, with the main SS holdout in the East, and the OKW holding the heartland of Germany. The bogged-down frontlines made excellent targets for V2 rockets and other Wunderwaffe in the possession of the OKW, who used any advantage they had to get an edge over the SS. Over a million Germans had died in the Brother's War.

Now in its closing stages, victory for the OKW is all but assured. The limited use of Wunderwaffen has brought the SS to its knees. SS troops no longer man the frontlines, but use guerilla tactics to deter OKW incursions into their territory and evade targetted balistic strikes. The OKW is also faced with the difficult transition back to civilian government, and the reconstruction of a country that has been wracked by civil strife for the past 8 years. The task before them is nothing short of gargantuan.


Theme: Deutschlandlied (official), Die Wacht am Rhine (unofficial)
Anything you'd like to add?: Nah thanks



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Postby Labstoska » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:06 am

Guimar wrote:Could i possibly reserve Scotland and Northern Ireland?

Ah feck the Scots are back.

Also Joohan do you mind if I increase my territory to all of southern England?

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Postby Arvenia » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:53 am

Labstoska wrote:
Guimar wrote:Could i possibly reserve Scotland and Northern Ireland?

Ah feck the Scots are back.

Also Joohan do you mind if I increase my territory to all of southern England?

What about northern England?

Anyway, I might go for Korea that is either a monarchy or a republic, but it is currently anti-Japanese and pro-Western.
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Postby Arvenia » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:08 am

Nation Application
NS name: Arvenia
Nation Name: Independent State of Korea (독립 국가)
Location in the world: Korea (North Korea, South Korea, Jeju Island, Takeshima Island and Liancourt Rocks), Jiandao (yellow and purple on this map) and Primorsky Krai (just the southern part)
Leader/s:
[*]Great Leader Trent Myung (Head of State/Commander-in-Chief/de facto Chief Executive)
[*]Prime Minister Kim Seong-su (Head of Government/President of the Council of Ministers/de jure Chief Executive)
[*]Speaker Sin Ik-hui (National Assembly of Korea)
[*]Chief Judge Kim Jae-il (Supreme Court of Korea)
Map Color: Green

Population: 30,528,611
Political Stability on a scale of 1 to 5: 3
Description of Government: Korea is an unitary constitutional republic under a nationalist one-party system. It is governed by the Hannaladang (한나라당), also known as the "Korean National Party" (KNP). The party is Korean nationalist, conservative, liberal, anti-communist, anti-Japanese, pro-Western, socially conservative, culturally conservative, state capitalist, authoritarian and progressive. The party, as well as the military and the country itself, is run by a Geulideo (그리더), which is supposed to mean "Great Leader". Under him are a Prime Minister, a Speaker and a Chief Judge. Elections exist, but all candidates comes from the ruling party. The government also propagates anti-Japanese propaganda amid the end of Japanese rule.
Flag: Flag of Korea
Capital: Seoul

Economic prosperity on a scale of 1 to 5: 4
Agrarian or industrialized state: Probably industrialized (because of Japan)
Role of Women in society: The role of women in Korean society has changed due to Japanese rule. With the allegedly horrible sexual enslavement of Korean women by the Japanese military, the Korean government has changed the role in order to create more safety for Korean women. Women were split into two distinct groups, the traditional housewives that Korea had since ancient times and the Korean women who wishes for life in politics, military and business.

Military name: National Defence Forces of Korea
Military branches: Korean National Army, Korean National Navy, Korean Air Force, Korean Marine Corps, Korean Gendarmerie Force and Korean Reserve Force
Active military troop count:
Total possible troop count:
Average age of soldier:
Are your troops more tactical or fanatical?: Tactical
Are your troops more organized or unconventional?: 85% organized and 15% unconventional
Is your doctrine bold or cautious?: Both
Average soldier on a scale of 1 to 5: 4
A general run down of your equipment: Same as the South Korean military during the Korean War (namely US military equipment and some Japanese military equipment left behind).

Allies?: USA and Manchukuo
Enemies?: Japan

Nation's history:
Theme:
Anything you'd like to add?: Nope
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Postby Arvenia » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:09 am

Regarding my application, should my country be a monarchy or a republic depending on the aftermath of Japanese rule?
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Postby Ruskland-Preuben » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:10 am

Could the Russians have pushed against the Germans during their civil war? I assume that the garrisons in mainland Russia are quite battered from the revolts, as well as the civil war, so it could be possible.
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Postby Conwy-Shire » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:16 am

Ruskland-Preuben wrote:Could the Russians have pushed against the Germans during their civil war? I assume that the garrisons in mainland Russia are quite battered from the revolts, as well as the civil war, so it could be possible.

My expectation (As the German player, so not the final word in the matter) and what I can gleam from the OPs history and real-life events around the mid 1950s, is that Russia would be even more of a rump state than before. Their industry is wrecked, even what they managed to move east would be a shambles, their army and population are decimated, they have little in the way of an economy since Western Russia was partitioned into Reichskommisariats, and most importantly to top it all off Stalin has recently died - leading to a power vacuum.

So I would expect an even more fractious and ineffective Soviet Union. That doesn't mean you can't RP as that and try to turn things around - would be a good story arc and I'm sure the situation in the Reichskommisariats is quite exploitable too.

*Just my two cents :)
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:16 am

Ruskland-Preuben wrote:Could the Russians have pushed against the Germans during their civil war? I assume that the garrisons in mainland Russia are quite battered from the revolts, as well as the civil war, so it could be possible.

In the history, it talks about how the Russians didn't exploit it, because of how weak and disorganised they still were by that time

I don't know, was this the case for the Civil War or the sudden rebellions?
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:21 am

Conwy-Shire wrote:
Ruskland-Preuben wrote:Could the Russians have pushed against the Germans during their civil war? I assume that the garrisons in mainland Russia are quite battered from the revolts, as well as the civil war, so it could be possible.

My expectation (As the German player, so not the final word in the matter) and what I can gleam from the OPs history and real-life events around the mid 1950s, is that Russia would be even more of a rump state than before. Their industry is wrecked, even what they managed to move east would be a shambles, their army and population are decimated, they have little in the way of an economy since Western Russia was partitioned into Reichskommisariats, and most importantly to top it all off Stalin has recently died - leading to a power vacuum.

So I would expect an even more fractious and ineffective Soviet Union. That doesn't mean you could RP as that and try to turn things around - would be a good story arc and I'm sure the situation in the Reichskommisariats is quite exploitable too.

*Just my two cents :)

Yeah, there are plenty of resources in Siberia (though mining it would be a problem), plus I think you still control your Asian territories in Kazakhstan and etc, so that could be a potential source of food and population

And in irl history, the Soviets moved a lot of their industry past the Ural mountains when the Germans invaded,

So there's definitely potential for a comeback
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Postby Ruskland-Preuben » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:22 am

I see, it seems that I have to bring back the economy, and industry. And factories.
Lots of unexploited resources in Siberia, maybe I’ll be pulling some ore out.
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:27 am

Ruskland-Preuben wrote:I see, it seems that I have to bring back the economy, and industry. And factories.
Lots of unexploited resources in Siberia, maybe I’ll be pulling some ore out.
Also ninja’d by warg.


Hey Warg, “PROUND MEMBER” amrite?

Hahahaha!............

.........I don't get it
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Postby Conwy-Shire » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:31 am

Warglorian:
Just noticed your Scandinavian country has claimed Holstein, and your history doesn't mention Operation Weserübung or any German interaction with the region. I know the app isn't finished, but your map claim does seem to infringe on core german territory...
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Postby Ruskland-Preuben » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:36 am

The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:
Ruskland-Preuben wrote:I see, it seems that I have to bring back the economy, and industry. And factories.
Lots of unexploited resources in Siberia, maybe I’ll be pulling some ore out.
Also ninja’d by warg.


Hey Warg, “PROUND MEMBER” amrite?

Hahahaha!............

.........I don't get it

In your sig.
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:38 am

Ruskland-Preuben wrote:
The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:Hahahaha!............

.........I don't get it

In your sig.

......Oh!

Feck!
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Postby Ruskland-Preuben » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:40 am

The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:
Ruskland-Preuben wrote:In your sig.

......Oh!

Feck!

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Postby Arvenia » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:55 am

Arvenia wrote:Regarding my application, should my country be a monarchy or a republic depending on the aftermath of Japanese rule?

Would anyone tell me which one is perfect for my Korea?
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Postby Ruskland-Preuben » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:00 am

Arvenia wrote:
Arvenia wrote:Regarding my application, should my country be a monarchy or a republic depending on the aftermath of Japanese rule?

Would anyone tell me which one is perfect for my Korea?

Really leaning towards constitutional monarchy tbh.
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Postby Conwy-Shire » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:04 am

Arvenia wrote:Would anyone tell me which one is perfect for my Korea?

I think the choice is yours, really. You could expect large parts of the population to dislike a monarchy because of its associations with the Japanese Imperial Family. If they're receiving aid from the US you could factor that pressure into creating an authoritarian Presidential Republic, like those the US sponsored in OTL Cold War.

But Korean society may also be really traditionalist (I'm no Asian history expert) and that would probably create public support for a monarchy
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Postby Labstoska » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:17 am

Arvenia wrote:
Labstoska wrote:Ah feck the Scots are back.

Also Joohan do you mind if I increase my territory to all of southern England?

What about northern England?

Anyway, I might go for Korea that is either a monarchy or a republic, but it is currently anti-Japanese and pro-Western.

Eh well my faction originates from from the German occupation zone so it makes sense for them to control only the South but I do plan to reclaim the entirety of the isles

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Postby Costa Fierro » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:19 am

Arvenia wrote:Regarding my application, should my country be a monarchy or a republic depending on the aftermath of Japanese rule?


Hmm. I originally was going to go with a nationalist, anti-Japanese Korea that emerged after the Japanese had withdrawn from the Asian mainland. Basically it was a provisional government set up in Seoul that took over the equipment of the Choseon Army, and is now using it to not only persecute any Japanese citizens remaining on the peninsular, but also others deemed to be security threats.

As Korea would largely remain untouched by the war, a new united and independent Korea would have a lot going for it. Throwing in anti-Japanese nationalism and persecutions and you can have something that's not only fun, it's also not bound by serious restrictions.
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:48 am

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Arvenia wrote:Regarding my application, should my country be a monarchy or a republic depending on the aftermath of Japanese rule?

Would anyone tell me which one is perfect for my Korea?

Maybe a republic? After years of Japanese oppression, the Korean peoples might want the whole "power to the people" thing

Plus a Monarchy of any type may bring bad memories, no matter if it was Constitutional or not
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:17 am

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Ruskland-Preuben wrote:Could the Russians have pushed against the Germans during their civil war? I assume that the garrisons in mainland Russia are quite battered from the revolts, as well as the civil war, so it could be possible.

My expectation (As the German player, so not the final word in the matter) and what I can gleam from the OPs history and real-life events around the mid 1950s, is that Russia would be even more of a rump state than before. Their industry is wrecked, even what they managed to move east would be a shambles, their army and population are decimated, they have little in the way of an economy since Western Russia was partitioned into Reichskommisariats, and most importantly to top it all off Stalin has recently died - leading to a power vacuum.

So I would expect an even more fractious and ineffective Soviet Union. That doesn't mean you can't RP as that and try to turn things around - would be a good story arc and I'm sure the situation in the Reichskommisariats is quite exploitable too.

*Just my two cents :)

So does this make the Union of Balkan Socialist Republics the main Communist Power in Europe? If so, would it be feasible for me to attempt to forment revolutions in neigboring countries: Serbia, Syria, Egypt, etc, or am I pushing it? I mean Turkey's a rump state at this point, so, maybe I should push into other countries.
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Postby Joohan » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:20 am

Ruskland-Preuben wrote:Could the Russians have pushed against the Germans during their civil war? I assume that the garrisons in mainland Russia are quite battered from the revolts, as well as the civil war, so it could be possible.


The Soviet Union might have recovered a bit - but they should essentially still be a broken state. Though the Axis occupies were all either wiped out or isolated, that is not to say that the rebels were necessarily friendly to the bolsheviks ( many actually quite hostile in fact). Some gains could have been made - but nothing west of Moscow.
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Postby Joohan » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:21 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Conwy-Shire wrote:My expectation (As the German player, so not the final word in the matter) and what I can gleam from the OPs history and real-life events around the mid 1950s, is that Russia would be even more of a rump state than before. Their industry is wrecked, even what they managed to move east would be a shambles, their army and population are decimated, they have little in the way of an economy since Western Russia was partitioned into Reichskommisariats, and most importantly to top it all off Stalin has recently died - leading to a power vacuum.

So I would expect an even more fractious and ineffective Soviet Union. That doesn't mean you can't RP as that and try to turn things around - would be a good story arc and I'm sure the situation in the Reichskommisariats is quite exploitable too.

*Just my two cents :)

So does this make the Union of Balkan Socialist Republics the main Communist Power in Europe? If so, would it be feasible for me to attempt to forment revolutions in neigboring countries: Serbia, Syria, Egypt, etc, or am I pushing it? I mean Turkey's a rump state at this point, so, maybe I should push into other countries.


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