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Postby Vaquas » Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:40 am

Oh wow he’s totally removing Troops, missed that in the first read through

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Postby Alozia » Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:41 am

I was so confused about the whole controversy thing for a minute.
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:51 am

That is not the big controversy dudes
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Postby Vaquas » Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:51 am

Tallahassee News Station wrote:That is not the big controversy dudes


What

Not gonna lie the speech was kind of wordy
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:53 am

An end to Team America world police!

Missed that the first time, Brennan is going to break

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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:54 am

And for that purpose, for a brighter future, we must make another change. The United States must respect the choices of the nations of the Middle East-and the choice of her people. As the slow steps of recovery are made, we must not decide the course that they take, but those who are there, in the lands rocked by war, the survivors of the tumult, they must maintain that right. If society is to be changed, by the will of the people, not of dictators or strongmen, but the freely expressed will of the citizenry, then we will respect it. If the maps are to be redrawn, not by international powers or conquest of war, but by the independent and sovereign choices of the people who make those lands their home, then it is our responsibility not to interfere, but to support, as a global community, the right of self-determination that all possess. When aid is requested, we will look to provide it within our means, seeking to advance, not our interests, but the democratic process-yet the choice is not to be made in Washington, nor in New York, nor Brussels, but here, by those who are affected by it


Every foreign policy person everywhere is gonna see this as coming out in support of a Kurdish independence referendum
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Postby Vaquas » Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:57 am

Tallahassee News Station wrote:
And for that purpose, for a brighter future, we must make another change. The United States must respect the choices of the nations of the Middle East-and the choice of her people. As the slow steps of recovery are made, we must not decide the course that they take, but those who are there, in the lands rocked by war, the survivors of the tumult, they must maintain that right. If society is to be changed, by the will of the people, not of dictators or strongmen, but the freely expressed will of the citizenry, then we will respect it. If the maps are to be redrawn, not by international powers or conquest of war, but by the independent and sovereign choices of the people who make those lands their home, then it is our responsibility not to interfere, but to support, as a global community, the right of self-determination that all possess. When aid is requested, we will look to provide it within our means, seeking to advance, not our interests, but the democratic process-yet the choice is not to be made in Washington, nor in New York, nor Brussels, but here, by those who are affected by it


Every foreign policy person everywhere is gonna see this as coming out in support of a Kurdish independence referendum


I was actually thinking about the Kurds when he talked about that, but it didn’t click all the way for me

Turkey is going to flip shit
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Postby Meelducan » Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:57 am

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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:59 am

Vaquas wrote:
Tallahassee News Station wrote:
And for that purpose, for a brighter future, we must make another change. The United States must respect the choices of the nations of the Middle East-and the choice of her people. As the slow steps of recovery are made, we must not decide the course that they take, but those who are there, in the lands rocked by war, the survivors of the tumult, they must maintain that right. If society is to be changed, by the will of the people, not of dictators or strongmen, but the freely expressed will of the citizenry, then we will respect it. If the maps are to be redrawn, not by international powers or conquest of war, but by the independent and sovereign choices of the people who make those lands their home, then it is our responsibility not to interfere, but to support, as a global community, the right of self-determination that all possess. When aid is requested, we will look to provide it within our means, seeking to advance, not our interests, but the democratic process-yet the choice is not to be made in Washington, nor in New York, nor Brussels, but here, by those who are affected by it


Every foreign policy person everywhere is gonna see this as coming out in support of a Kurdish independence referendum


I was actually thinking about the Kurds when he talked about that, but it didn’t click all the way for me

Turkey is going to flip shit


Winston booted Turkey from NATO and had all that madness go down

Turkey is 110% flat out gone
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Postby Vaquas » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:00 am

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Postby Vaquas » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:03 am

I imagine there’s going to be a lot of extra money floating around for terrorist organizations all of a sudden...
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:06 am

I mean, Turkey relations were already trash but this totally throws Iraq under the bus, their gov hates hates Kurdish indy
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:10 am

Tallahassee News Station wrote:
Vaquas wrote:
I was actually thinking about the Kurds when he talked about that, but it didn’t click all the way for me

Turkey is going to flip shit


Winston booted Turkey from NATO and had all that madness go down

Turkey is 110% flat out gone


I would not be surprised if this RP ends with Greece doubling its borders after an invasion of Turkey

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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:11 am

The Bell thing makes sense now
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Postby Vaquas » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:11 am

Reed actually may have just seriously undermined his entire middle east policy and created an even bigger problem

The Turks, if anything, have held back some support of the Islamic State because of the United States. A complete withdrawl, coupled with a new enemy in Turkey, could lead to an ISIS resurgence quicker than anticipated.
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Postby Vaquas » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:11 am

Was Rodham consulted on this?
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:11 am

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
Tallahassee News Station wrote:
Winston booted Turkey from NATO and had all that madness go down

Turkey is 110% flat out gone


I would not be surprised if this RP ends with Greece doubling its borders after an invasion of Turkey



Turkey would roll over Greece
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:11 am

Vaquas wrote:Was Rodham consulted on this?

No

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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:12 am

Tallahassee News Station wrote:
Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
I would not be surprised if this RP ends with Greece doubling its borders after an invasion of Turkey



Turkey would roll over Greece


To clarify a US led invasion of Turkey

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Postby Vaquas » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:12 am

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
Vaquas wrote:Was Rodham consulted on this?

No


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Postby Vaquas » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:14 am

0% chance Erdogan doesn’t roll in and slaughter the Kurds.
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:15 am

Vaquas wrote:0% chance Erdogan doesn’t roll in and slaughter the Kurds.


Well we might be calling Istanbul Constantinople again if that happens.

0% chance people like Brennan do not call for war against Turkey

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Postby Vaquas » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:17 am

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
Vaquas wrote:0% chance Erdogan doesn’t roll in and slaughter the Kurds.


Well we might be calling Istanbul Constantinople again if that happens.

0% chance people like Brennan do not call for war against Turkey


Reed ends up overseeing the most horrific war in a very long time...
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:17 am

There's still American nukes in Turkey...
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Postby Prolieum » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:19 am

I imagine that this will become quite a flashpoint indeed.

Part of the matter rests on Reed not sufficiently understanding the depths of the situation with Turkey in particular. For the response of others, Iraq included, the expectations are generally settled, but the complexities of the situation there exceed him.

There is, however, quite a second level to what has just been engineered that is not publicly known. That more covert aspect was one quite long in planning, though unfortunately left fully to the background after out-of-character issues.
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