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Postby Prolieum » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:23 am

Reed is somewhat awkwardly positioned, now, in relation to the Connecticut race. I am not certain if he should, in-character, let his endorsement of Roberts stand, or reinforce it explicitly. I doubt he will follow the Vice President's example.
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Postby Vaquas » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:29 am

I also think its a mistake to conclude that the news media is going to be anything but extremely critical of a Republican in a very tight Senate race when the Republicans in Congress have already shoved through explicitly unpopular legislation in POMA and ARBAA
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:31 am

Vaquas wrote:I disagree pretty heavily with that analysis, I think the VP publically breaking with the First Lady and bodly refusing to endorse the candidate fielded by his own party is the bigger story than a Republican saying not to vote for a Prog. People who didn’t vote for Havich during his Senate run definitely don’t care about his opinion, and Independent Singh voters aren’t going to be swayed that way I don’t think if they’ve already decided to vote for a Dem Socialist. I really do think Havich landed what he wanted to, that being a blow on the Roberts campaign, by splitting his following between Schmidt and Roberts and making Republicans who were set on Roberts question their choice.


"Boldly refusing to endorse the candidate" isn't really the headline something new or fitting with the speech he gave. The assumption up till then was that the VP wasn't getting involved and not endorsing of his absence. Him saying he's not endorsing basically just affirms what was already assumed but him coming out swinging at Singh is brand new and major news.

You'd basically have to be arguing that Havich getting involved on an attack on a candidate after not touching anyone the whole time is less notable or significant then him not endorsing after not endorsing the whole time, and that Roberts voters would reject him because the VP said he was decent with some flaws but make your own decision, but Singh voters would stand by their guy after getting a full throated condemning of him as corrupt/Winstonite and a bad choice for the state

That last part especially doesn't make any sense to swallow. People who'd decided for Robert had done that with the knowledge that the VP had not endorsed. People who'd decided to vote for Singh had done that without the knowledge of that massive opposition
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Postby Vaquas » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:44 am

I think I see what you’re saying now, but I still don’t think this bodes well for Roberts at all in that it may drive more moderate voters to Schmidt and deprive Roberts of a plurality, especially in the current national environment that is bound to be shifting against the GOP in liberal areas
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:51 am

Vaquas wrote:I think I see what you’re saying now, but I still don’t think this bodes well for Roberts at all in that it may drive more moderate voters to Schmidt and deprive Roberts of a plurality, especially in the current national environment that is bound to be shifting against the GOP in liberal areas


If the objective of this was to get Schmidt elected it totally makes sense, Schmidt has the most to gain by far. Scaring left leaning indy's and leaners (who a good number would be regged as Dems still) away from Singh is going to send way more of them to Schmidt than it is to Roberts and the VP upping Schmidt as a valid candidate is helpful in working on some of the concerns from him being off the trail

I don't know why that would be the goal but the way it was done would fit it as one. But I just don't think that even with the Dem megasurrogacy that it would be enough to push Schmidt over. It's still possible with some good outcomes but I don't think it'll make it
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Postby Dentali » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:02 am

Tallahassee News Station wrote:
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Havich wanted to control the media cycle, the headline being, “Vice President refuses to endorse Roberts”, which is on a base level very bad for him, not sure where you’re coming from about an improvement of his plurality chances


The headline that comes out of that is "Vice President urges CT voters not to vote for Singh" or "VP doesn't endorse, condemns 'corrupt' Singh"

Him not giving Roberts the endorsement is a line in the report, him coming out just before election day to do a full bore "Anyone but Singh" message is the front page



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Tallahassee News Station wrote:
Vaquas wrote:I think I see what you’re saying now, but I still don’t think this bodes well for Roberts at all in that it may drive more moderate voters to Schmidt and deprive Roberts of a plurality, especially in the current national environment that is bound to be shifting against the GOP in liberal areas


If the objective of this was to get Schmidt elected it totally makes sense, Schmidt has the most to gain by far. Scaring left leaning indy's and leaners (who a good number would be regged as Dems still) away from Singh is going to send way more of them to Schmidt than it is to Roberts and the VP upping Schmidt as a valid candidate is helpful in working on some of the concerns from him being off the trail

I don't know why that would be the goal but the way it was done would fit it as one. But I just don't think that even with the Dem megasurrogacy that it would be enough to push Schmidt over. It's still possible with some good outcomes but I don't think it'll make it

So these Dems are going to listen to the guy who presided over the Senate that passed a lot of unpopular and extreme measures like POMA and Minuteman
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Postby Sanabel » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:07 am

What's the protocol for making speeches in a language other than English?
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:09 am

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If the objective of this was to get Schmidt elected it totally makes sense, Schmidt has the most to gain by far. Scaring left leaning indy's and leaners (who a good number would be regged as Dems still) away from Singh is going to send way more of them to Schmidt than it is to Roberts and the VP upping Schmidt as a valid candidate is helpful in working on some of the concerns from him being off the trail

I don't know why that would be the goal but the way it was done would fit it as one. But I just don't think that even with the Dem megasurrogacy that it would be enough to push Schmidt over. It's still possible with some good outcomes but I don't think it'll make it

So these Dems are going to listen to the guy who presided over the Senate that passed a lot of unpopular and extreme measures like POMA and Minuteman


I'd be amazed if 10% of the voting population knew the VP was Prez of the Senate and how that worked
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:11 am

Sanabel wrote:What's the protocol for making speeches in a language other than English?


Translators are fine, leeway is given to assume that the guy is speaking fluently if he speaks the language fluently so it's not a big deal for translator mistakes, or it can be taken as is or with deliberate mistakes if they're more like Cruz level fluent
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Postby Sanabel » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:12 am

Tallahassee News Station wrote:
Sanabel wrote:What's the protocol for making speeches in a language other than English?


Translators are fine, leeway is given to assume that the guy is speaking fluently if he speaks the language fluently so it's not a big deal for translator mistakes, or it can be taken as is or with deliberate mistakes if they're more like Cruz level fluent

Ok thanks. Phonz is fluent since he's from an immigrant Argentinian family and grew up around migrant workers on the farm.
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:13 am

Sanabel wrote:
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Translators are fine, leeway is given to assume that the guy is speaking fluently if he speaks the language fluently so it's not a big deal for translator mistakes, or it can be taken as is or with deliberate mistakes if they're more like Cruz level fluent

Ok thanks. Phonz is fluent since he's from an immigrant Argentinian family and grew up around migrant workers on the farm.


What's your opinion on the Stev pic?
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Postby Imperial Esplanade » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:13 am

Tallahassee News Station wrote:
Sanabel wrote:So these Dems are going to listen to the guy who presided over the Senate that passed a lot of unpopular and extreme measures like POMA and Minuteman


I'd be amazed if 10% of the voting population knew the VP was Prez of the Senate and how that worked

Without many Betsy DeVos situations thus far, I feel like that is more a trivia thing in the roleplay.
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Postby Imperial Esplanade » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:15 am

Tallahassee News Station wrote:
Sanabel wrote:Ok thanks. Phonz is fluent since he's from an immigrant Argentinian family and grew up around migrant workers on the farm.


What's your opinion on the Stev pic?

She should change her profile picture to be that of a lizard. Iguana, to be exact.
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:16 am

ICly she's not changing unless called out ICly but I'm just curious if my a e s t h e t i c sense is failing
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Postby Vaquas » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:17 am

Tallahassee News Station wrote:ICly she's not changing unless called out ICly but I'm just curious if my a e s t h e t i c sense is failing


The old one was a lot better broski, the new one makes me uncomfortable and she looks strained
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Postby Imperial Esplanade » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:18 am

Vaquas wrote:
Tallahassee News Station wrote:ICly she's not changing unless called out ICly but I'm just curious if my a e s t h e t i c sense is failing


The old one was a lot better broski, the new one makes me uncomfortable and she looks strained

I don't know. It'll take getting used to, but I'm sure it's fine.
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Postby Sanabel » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:20 am

Tallahassee News Station wrote:
Sanabel wrote:Ok thanks. Phonz is fluent since he's from an immigrant Argentinian family and grew up around migrant workers on the farm.


What's your opinion on the Stev pic?

Better than the old one
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:26 am

OK, mixed bag.

The IC reason for the change was that the first was supposed to look more serious and beautiful as she was tensed up about reentering politics and challenging Breck, and now as she starts to loosen up and get some of her confidence back she's going for something more natural and positive (at least that's the thought) as she starts to get back to being perkier, her rhetoric has been shifting too

I'm having some fun getting into Stev as a character, hope to keep all that up, though it does sometimes feel discouraging running campaign stuff with her very likely gonna take the loss
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Are L.A. results on pause or until CT?
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:29 am

Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:Are L.A. results on pause or until CT?


They're going up in the same CT thing along with some other odds and ends
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Postby Imperial Esplanade » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:31 am

Would be nice if a Progressive showed up.

SJW would be it, but Mahk disappeared entirely.
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:33 am

Imperial Esplanade wrote:Would be nice if a Progressive showed up.

SJW would be it, but Mahk disappeared entirely.


Yeah, MA really needs one

I guess the good part is that with the race as it is you can afford to be a late entry because technically it doesn't even start until Breck actually resigns. Breck could totally just not resign as promised and screw over Sam and Stev hard
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:37 am

A little surprised Kram/Will haven't gone at Stev yet
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:46 am

Tallahassee News Station wrote:A little surprised Kram/Will haven't gone at Stev yet

Mondale would but she's less inclined to attack Republicans.
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