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Postby Vaquas » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:59 pm

Maybe we should not
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Postby Imperial Esplanade » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:59 pm

I'll be holding off on the Prejean speech until this situation is completely resolved.
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Postby Uttland » Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:02 pm

Vaquas wrote:Maybe we should not

Why not commit, honestly? I don’t like it that much either, but at this point; why not? I’ll have Lopez respond to this I guess
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Postby Vaquas » Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:04 pm

I don't think they would know that she was (incapacitated? could she survive this potentially? people have survived shots to the head). There's an unconcious man, an injured officer and multiple shots fired. The car has come to a stop, perhaps he goes to investigate.
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Postby Uttland » Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:05 pm

Vaquas wrote:I don't think they would know that she was (incapacitated? could she survive this potentially? people have survived shots to the head). There's an unconcious man, an injured officer and multiple shots fired. The car has come to a stop, perhaps he goes to investigate.

That’s what I’ll have happen.
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Postby Uttland » Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:10 pm

this is the most by committee and bizarre conclusion to a subplot and character this RP has ever done.
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:14 pm

He didn't even get the tires. All four of the other shots missed completely that one was the only one that hit anything. One of hers hit the back of the car
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:15 pm

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Roll for Lopez noticing the ambulance


Just dump the ambulance
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Postby Vaquas » Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:15 pm

Uttland wrote:this is the most by committee conclusion to a subplot and character this RP has ever done.


It actually makes sense though to an extent. She gave the information to the First Lady, so its not lost forever.
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Postby Uttland » Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:20 pm

Vaquas wrote:
Uttland wrote:this is the most by committee conclusion to a subplot and character this RP has ever done.


It actually makes sense though to an extent. She gave the information to the First Lady, so its not lost forever.

True, but this only adds a layer of mystery to that subplot. I can imagine Aubrey having to pierce this together herself.
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:38 pm

Good roleplaying at least
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:40 pm

Welp that will be one big police brutality headline

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Postby Uttland » Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:42 pm

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Welp that will be one big police brutality headline

I mean she dragged a police officer with a car while actively trying to resist talking to the police.
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:45 pm

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Welp that will be one big police brutality headline


If they ID her the weirdness will take center stage

I'm wondering who is going to ID her though. The only people who could identify her are in Washington or have amnesia and I don't know if she's recognizable at all
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:48 pm

Tallahassee News Station wrote:
Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Welp that will be one big police brutality headline


If they ID her the weirdness will take center stage

I'm wondering who is going to ID her though. The only people who could identify her are in Washington or have amnesia and I don't know if she's recognizable at all

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Postby Uttland » Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:48 pm

Tallahassee News Station wrote:
Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Welp that will be one big police brutality headline


If they ID her the weirdness will take center stage

I'm wondering who is going to ID her though. The only people who could identify her are in Washington or have amnesia and I don't know if she's recognizable at all

She’s basically a Jane Doe for now. Maybe when Mateo comes to a connection could be made, but I don’t know.
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:49 pm

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
Tallahassee News Station wrote:
If they ID her the weirdness will take center stage

I'm wondering who is going to ID her though. The only people who could identify her are in Washington or have amnesia and I don't know if she's recognizable at all

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Why/where would her fingerprints be on file?
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Postby Vaquas » Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:50 pm

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Welp that will be one big police brutality headline


Nah, she dragged a police officer with the car and attacked her hands, had potentially beaten a man into unconciousness and was fleeing in a vehicle in a cognitive state where she could have seriously injured or killed anyone else on the road.
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:52 pm

Framing is basically going to depend on four things. How Mateo frames it, how much he remembers, what kinds of conclusions he jumps to about identity and just how good the investigators are at putting pieces together

Before IDs there's probably going to be more of a focus on Mateo, but the big part of it is still shooting a (teenager?) in the back of the head while fleeing and doesn't come off very great. The hand happening to run over is convenient but probably doesn't publicly annul the thing but depending on his story Mateo is probably still going to be the main
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:53 pm

Mateo might not even have a report depending on how hard he beat himself with that chair
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Postby Vaquas » Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:54 pm

Who could have anticipated that this would be the violent outburst, not the rally.
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Postby Uttland » Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:59 pm

The police are pretty much safe, legally. For reasons mentioned above. The optics aren’t great in the public eye, but again, if Mateo says the rights things, this should honestly be fine. Mentally scarring, but fine.

Vaquas wrote:Who could have anticipated that this would be the violent outburst, not the rally.

This RP is full of surprises honestly.
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:01 pm

Uttland wrote:The police are pretty much safe, legally. For reasons mentioned above. The optics aren’t great in the public eye, but again, if Mateo says the rights things, this should honestly be fine. Mentally scarring, but fine.

Vaquas wrote:Who could have anticipated that this would be the violent outburst, not the rally.

This RP is full of surprises honestly.


Oh legally they shouldn't have any problems at all, there's not even anyone left to try suing that would probably fail anyways. It's just public opinion that could be a problem
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Postby Vaquas » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:09 pm

I just feel bad for Tumb
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Postby Vaquas » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:11 pm

If this trickles up to Locklear she will have a reaction.
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