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Postby Bruke » Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:37 pm

Dentali wrote:Roughly what would you say glen andersons chances of winning the PA governorship are?


Way he’s going, and assuming he’s going against an inactive incumbent, I’d says he’s competitive.

If he wins though, it’ll be narrow: I’m thinking 51-52%

Machine politics can be a pain, and the fact that Vilseck was the preceding Gov means the Dems will throw in a lot of money and manpower.
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Postby Dentali » Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:38 pm

Bruke wrote:
Dentali wrote:Roughly what would you say glen andersons chances of winning the PA governorship are?


Way he’s going, and assuming he’s going against an inactive incumbent, I’d says he’s competitive.

If he wins though, it’ll be narrow: I’m thinking 51-52%

Machine politics can be a pain, and the fact that Vilseck was the preceding Gov means the Dems will throw in a lot of money and manpower.



yea anderson is more nervous about vilseck than the current governor
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Postby Bruke » Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:44 pm

Dentali wrote:
Bruke wrote:
Way he’s going, and assuming he’s going against an inactive incumbent, I’d says he’s competitive.

If he wins though, it’ll be narrow: I’m thinking 51-52%

Machine politics can be a pain, and the fact that Vilseck was the preceding Gov means the Dems will throw in a lot of money and manpower.



yea anderson is more nervous about vilseck than the current governor


Depends on how much of a liability Vilseck is/was, and if national politics bleed over.

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Postby Granluras » Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:41 am

Ugh...Pennsylvania
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:06 am

Granluras wrote:Congress word of the day: Objection

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Postby The Orion Islands » Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:19 am

What do you all think of the state of emergency that Trump will declare?
There is a crisis at the border with at least 2,000 coming in illegally a day, but the declaration is a worrying precedent that enables the President to bypass Congress for anything.
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:22 am

The Orion Islands wrote:What do you all think of the state of emergency that Trump will declare?
There is a crisis at the border with at least 2,000 coming in illegally a day, but the declaration is a worrying precedent that enables the President to bypass Congress for anything.

Pandora's box, he let the genie out of the bottle, there is no putting it back in now

The Dems will probably suse that as precdent to establish universal healthcare

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Postby Meelducan » Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:25 am

The Orion Islands wrote:What do you all think of the state of emergency that Trump will declare?
There is a crisis at the border with at least 2,000 coming in illegally a day, but the declaration is a worrying precedent that enables the President to bypass Congress for anything.

I can tell you that there is no crisis at the border.

It’s definitely nothing to declare a National Emergency over, but 2020 is coming around and he’s gotta fill those campaign promises.
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Postby Vaquas » Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:31 am

The Orion Islands wrote:What do you all think of the state of emergency that Trump will declare?
There is a crisis at the border with at least 2,000 coming in illegally a day, but the declaration is a worrying precedent that enables the President to bypass Congress for anything.


What he is doing is idiotic and unconstitutional, setting an extremely disastrous precedent over a non-emergency that will only further alienate people outside of his base.

The Republicans who support the measure yet have claimed to stand against executive overreach in the past are extremely hypocritical cowards.
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Postby Vaquas » Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:34 am

This is the real “Imperial Presidency”

He’s going to get killed in court over: “I didn’t need to do this... I just want to do it faster.”
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Postby Sanabel » Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:36 am

What do you all think of Bill Weld 2020
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Postby Dentali » Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:39 am

Vaquas wrote:This is the real “Imperial Presidency”

He’s going to get killed in court over: “I didn’t need to do this... I just want to do it faster.”



that was insane
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Postby Vaquas » Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:41 am

Sanabel wrote:What do you all think of Bill Weld 2020


He’s going to be a minor pain in Trump’s ass at most probably, if he can make moves in New Hampshire though that pain could increase in volume
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Postby Bruke » Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:41 am

Sanabel wrote:What do you all think of Bill Weld 2020


He’ll do well among libertarian-leaning Republicans, but no one else. The Rand Paul wing of the party isn’t large enough to get him to the nomination, and the other wings are now firmly (even if with grumbling) linked to Trump.

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Postby Bruke » Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:42 am

Vaquas wrote:This is the real “Imperial Presidency”

He’s going to get killed in court over: “I didn’t need to do this... I just want to do it faster.”


He said that in public?

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Postby Vaquas » Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:42 am

Best part about that whole disaster press conference is when he said “I like Ann Coulter, obviously she’s off the reservation, but I like her.”
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Postby Vaquas » Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:44 am

Bruke wrote:
Vaquas wrote:This is the real “Imperial Presidency”

He’s going to get killed in court over: “I didn’t need to do this... I just want to do it faster.”


He said that in public?


Yup.
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Postby Sanabel » Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:02 am

I might vote for Weld
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Postby Sanabel » Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:06 am

GOP base in Connecticut is Trumpier than the rest of New England tho bc we have closed primaries
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:11 am

Hell week is over, my gpa is probably in tatters right now

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Postby Granluras » Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:14 pm

Vaquas wrote:
The Orion Islands wrote:What do you all think of the state of emergency that Trump will declare?
There is a crisis at the border with at least 2,000 coming in illegally a day, but the declaration is a worrying precedent that enables the President to bypass Congress for anything.


What he is doing is idiotic and unconstitutional

You just spewed more shit than someone after eating Taco Bell.
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Postby Granluras » Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:16 pm

The Orion Islands wrote:What do you all think of the state of emergency that Trump will declare?
There is a crisis at the border with at least 2,000 coming in illegally a day, but the declaration is a worrying precedent that enables the President to bypass Congress for anything.

We need the money for increased borer security, but trump is focused too much on the Wall and fulfilling a major campaign promise to realise he can double back and simple focus on border security, not a border wall. The state of emergency is unnecessary, but we've passed the event horizon and this is all trump can do now.
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Postby Dentali » Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:30 pm

Granluras wrote:
The Orion Islands wrote:What do you all think of the state of emergency that Trump will declare?
There is a crisis at the border with at least 2,000 coming in illegally a day, but the declaration is a worrying precedent that enables the President to bypass Congress for anything.

We need the money for increased borer security, but trump is focused too much on the Wall and fulfilling a major campaign promise to realise he can double back and simple focus on border security, not a border wall. The state of emergency is unnecessary, but we've passed the event horizon and this is all trump can do now.



This is a terrible precedent to set regarding executive power, imagine if President Liz Warren was in power and bypassed congress on gun laws or implementing the green new deal or single payer healthcare arguing they are national emergencies?
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Postby Granluras » Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:39 pm

Dentali wrote:
Granluras wrote:We need the money for increased borer security, but trump is focused too much on the Wall and fulfilling a major campaign promise to realise he can double back and simple focus on border security, not a border wall. The state of emergency is unnecessary, but we've passed the event horizon and this is all trump can do now.



This is a terrible precedent to set regarding executive power, imagine if President Liz Warren was in power and bypassed congress on gun laws or implementing the green new deal or single payer healthcare arguing they are national emergencies?

Congress will just terminate it then.




Hey you know what...that's funny, since that's exactly what the Democratic House is doing.
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Postby Meelducan » Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:05 pm

Granluras wrote:
Vaquas wrote:
What he is doing is idiotic and unconstitutional

You just spewed more shit than someone after eating Taco Bell.

Don’t be rude.

It’s clearly unconstitutional.
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