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Postby Bruke » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:02 pm

Sanabel wrote:At this rate the Progressive Party is going to die with Walton.


Don’t count them out yet, they did good here in CT. They got through, that’s what matters.

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Postby Sanabel » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:02 pm

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
Sanabel wrote:Phonz is going to want to meet with De Nieto

Going to have to say no for IRL reasons. University is slowly killing me

No worries. Whenever
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:03 pm

Scotty invested in those field offices, in driving people to the polls, in outreach, in general massive canvassing....all to barely nudge a win against BAKER SPRINGTIME.

He's going to be furious...but nothing compared to Emma, Emilio, and Irvine.
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Postby Sanabel » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:03 pm

Bruke wrote:
Sanabel wrote:At this rate the Progressive Party is going to die with Walton.


Don’t count them out yet, they did good here in CT. They got through, that’s what matters.

They still outperformed the Democrats.
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Postby Bruke » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:03 pm

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
Sanabel wrote:Phonz is going to want to meet with De Nieto

Going to have to say no for IRL reasons. University is slowly killing me


Preach it brother! Go get those good grades.

And never mind about that TG, get to it when school is slower, it’s not a priority for me.

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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:06 pm

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Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Going to have to say no for IRL reasons. University is slowly killing me


Preach it brother! Go get those good grades.

And never mind about that TG, get to it when school is slower, it’s not a priority for me.


I have time to piecemeal the Vietnam thing, expect it to be slow though

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Postby Bruke » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:07 pm

Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:Scotty invested in those field offices, in driving people to the polls, in outreach, in general massive canvassing....all to barely nudge a win against BAKER SPRINGTIME.

He's going to be furious...but nothing compared to Emma, Emilio, and Irvine.


It’s a jungle primary, and the Progressive would always be able to promise more than Scotty- don’t forget that bit about government spending.

I have a feeling government unions were split.

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Postby Bruke » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:08 pm

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
Bruke wrote:
Preach it brother! Go get those good grades.

And never mind about that TG, get to it when school is slower, it’s not a priority for me.


I have time to piecemeal the Vietnam thing, expect it to be slow though


Take your time.
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:08 pm

Vaquas wrote:Singh and McCarver's respective failures seem to indicate that I can't handle Progressive candidates.


In fairness Singh performed pretty well

At least before the madness of the finale stuff the running poll had him running a little behind Roberts in the race but ahead of him in a theoretical "neutral ground"

That is nixing the turnout penalties of an off year early summer race, the semi incumbency advantage, established party infrastructure etc

He was not in a very good environment to win but performed fairly well

Obviously there are critiques with one area of weakness in particular that had some problems through the race but it's not a flop performance
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:09 pm

Bruke wrote:
Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:Scotty invested in those field offices, in driving people to the polls, in outreach, in general massive canvassing....all to barely nudge a win against BAKER SPRINGTIME.

He's going to be furious...but nothing compared to Emma, Emilio, and Irvine.


It’s a jungle primary, and the Progressive would always be able to promise more than Scotty- don’t forget that bit about government spending.

I have a feeling government unions were split.


Of course. Still, I would like to know some general turnout numbers for that.
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:10 pm

Sanabel wrote:Why does CT have open primaries in this


Doesn't. Would have been better worded to call them ex indies, affiliating via late registry. Not a super large group but got run+some commentary
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Postby Sanabel » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:12 pm

Tallahassee News Station wrote:
Sanabel wrote:Why does CT have open primaries in this


Doesn't. Would have been better worded to call them ex indies, affiliating via late registry. Not a super large group but got run+some commentary

That clarifies it
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:13 pm

Tallahassee News Station wrote:
Vaquas wrote:Singh and McCarver's respective failures seem to indicate that I can't handle Progressive candidates.


In fairness Singh performed pretty well

At least before the madness of the finale stuff the running poll had him running a little behind Roberts in the race but ahead of him in a theoretical "neutral ground"

That is nixing the turnout penalties of an off year early summer race, the semi incumbency advantage, established party infrastructure etc

He was not in a very good environment to win but performed fairly well

Obviously there are critiques with one area of weakness in particular that had some problems through the race but it's not a flop performance


If the Democratic Brass did not intervene, would SINGH have won?
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Postby Vaquas » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:13 pm

Singh is plowing straight through to 2018, despite the fact that I really don't want to do this again OOC.
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:15 pm

Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:Scotty invested in those field offices, in driving people to the polls, in outreach, in general massive canvassing....all to barely nudge a win against BAKER SPRINGTIME.

He's going to be furious...but nothing compared to Emma, Emilio, and Irvine.


Scotty underperformed his projected margins pretty badly though technically it was a come from behind win after he was the lower vote guy in the primaries after going AWOL

Ironically one of the worse slumps in that regard since Am that he just cited
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:15 pm

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
Tallahassee News Station wrote:
In fairness Singh performed pretty well

At least before the madness of the finale stuff the running poll had him running a little behind Roberts in the race but ahead of him in a theoretical "neutral ground"

That is nixing the turnout penalties of an off year early summer race, the semi incumbency advantage, established party infrastructure etc

He was not in a very good environment to win but performed fairly well

Obviously there are critiques with one area of weakness in particular that had some problems through the race but it's not a flop performance


If the Democratic Brass did not intervene, would Schimdt have won?


What? Absolutely no
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:15 pm

Tallahassee News Station wrote:
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If the Democratic Brass did not intervene, would Schimdt have won?


What? Absolutely no


Damn it typo, I meant Singh

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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:17 pm

Tallahassee News Station wrote:
Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:Scotty invested in those field offices, in driving people to the polls, in outreach, in general massive canvassing....all to barely nudge a win against BAKER SPRINGTIME.

He's going to be furious...but nothing compared to Emma, Emilio, and Irvine.


Scotty underperformed his projected margins pretty badly though technically it was a come from behind win after he was the lower vote guy in the primaries after going AWOL

Ironically one of the worse slumps in that regard since Am that he just cited

I suppose so.

Still a majority though. But ideologically, I believe a greater share of the electorate supports his measures.
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:22 pm

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
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What? Absolutely no


Damn it typo, I meant Singh


It was fairly significant in maintaining Schmidt as a candidate though Schmidt did take some Roberts votes. The scale of that thing was really something, I think that was the biggest party/surrogate intervention for a candidate in the RP by a pretty good margin

Still it didn't really make Schmidt competitive even with the boost Dan got from Buck. The overall environment and the running of the race did put Roberts in a pretty strong spot but he underperformed when the chips went down, Denis's machine faltered and that's a pretty sad vote total for him

Without all the rallies+ads it wouldn't have been a guaranteed flip but was fully possible and obviously more likely and if Roberts underperformed again then it would have been the difference

De Ni (and Vil) going behind the scenes keeping many Dems from going in behind Singh was obviously an invisible influence since it stopped something from.happening but a D flock behind Singh would have had serious repurcussions
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:24 pm

Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:
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Scotty underperformed his projected margins pretty badly though technically it was a come from behind win after he was the lower vote guy in the primaries after going AWOL

Ironically one of the worse slumps in that regard since Am that he just cited

I suppose so.

Still a majority though. But ideologically, I believe a greater share of the electorate supports his measures.


He had a more cluttered (and relatively conservative) past on him that we easier to be snobbish about in a two way

If his campaign ops had been before the original primary instead of as runoff work he most likely would have sailed in pretty smoothly without a second round
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:26 pm

De Nieto can spin LA+CT as a victory

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Postby Sanabel » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:26 pm

Singh can now campaign all year against Roberts and criticize every vote.

Though I'm not yet sure of Phonz's reaction. Phonz will either become a Prog purist, and only support grassroots candidates such as himself and Enchanted. Or he may support a reconciliation of the left. I've yet to decide.
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Postby Vaquas » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:29 pm

Sanabel wrote:Singh can now campaign all year against Roberts and criticize every vote.

Though I'm not yet sure of Phonz's reaction. Phonz will either become a Prog purist, and only support grassroots candidates such as himself and Enchanted. Or he may support a reconciliation of the left. I've yet to decide.


He'd have to kill Walton and Denver first for the latter to happen
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:30 pm

Sanabel wrote:Singh can now campaign all year against Roberts and criticize every vote.

Though I'm not yet sure of Phonz's reaction. Phonz will either become a Prog purist, and only support grassroots candidates such as himself and Enchanted. Or he may support a reconciliation of the left. I've yet to decide.


The way the transition/switchover/defection/whatever was handled and run through was definitely and clearly the single biggest problem/error of the Singh campaign
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:31 pm

Jared should fire a shot.

He's po'd about how low Schmidt ended up
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