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Parcia
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Postby Parcia » Sat Oct 27, 2018 7:57 pm

Generic Info
Nation Name: Federal Republic of South Africa.
Symbols:
Location:
Population:
Capital City:

Government Info
Government Type: A military Junta hiding under the guise of a Democratic republic
Brief Explanation of Government: (explain all the complex/unique stuff that can't be described in the type section)
Leader/s: President Alice Smith

Relations
Up to recently, was in a brutal conflict with rival African tribes and raider bands, has recently shifted in to a uneasy peace with the strongest of its neighbors.
Population Info
Religious Situation: Most are a odd combination of Catholic, Protestantism, and scattered Coptic denominations of Christianity.
Culture(s): Highly nationalistic in a sense, as well as Ethno-nationalist in a smaller sense. A vehement hatred Communists is ever so prevalent due to the Ongoing war with Commie Insurgents and bandits from the Ruins of Africa.

Military Info
Army:
Navy: as few as 2,000 men, A single US navy Frigate (USS O'Callahan - Ran aground near the coast and salvaged by the RSA once they secured New Smithy) 8 Fast attack gun boats, various armed fishing boats and skiffs.)

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History: WIP
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Capitalist Paradise

Postby Intermountain States » Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:43 pm

Very WIP
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Nation Name: Kingdom of Daejin
Symbols: Flag of the Kingdom of Great Jin
Location: The Purple in South Korea
Population: 5,558,540
Capital City: Busan

Government Info
Government Type: Constitutional Monarchy
Brief Explanation of Government: The government of Daejin is a constitutional monarchy. The king rules for life, unlike any of the Ministers and the Councillors and all Kings of Daejin descends from the Royal House of Ahn since its foundation. The king commands absolute loyalty from his officials and subjects, but officials are expected to try to guide the king to the right path if the latter was mistaken and kings are usually sensitive to public opinion.
The bureaucratic element of the government is dominated by scholars who enter service in the government through the civil service exam. All officials are expected to have passed a series of literary and psychological tests that determine their ability to serve the empire. The monarch has advisors from the legislative State Council (which members also serve as ministers) which is the de facto legislative body in Daejin. Members of the State Council are elected by the subjects in the provinces. The State Council in turn, elects the Chancellor who presides over the Council and appoints bureaucrats and Councillors to serve the roles of Ministers.
Relations In the Korean Peninsula, the Kingdom of Daejin remains hostile to the Democratic People's Republic of Korea but maintains friendly relations with the Republic of Korea. Friendly relations are held towards both the Chinese Provisional Government in Sichuan and the Republic of China in Taiwan.

Population Info
Religious Situation: Mixture of Buddhism and Christianity as major religions. However, the population of the Daejin is largely nonreligious
Culture(s): South Korean

Military Info
Army: The Daejin Royal Army is the primary ground force of Daejin with over 70,000 men in active duty. The DRA is mainly concerned with defending the Kingdom's borders and frontier settlements against raider groups and outlaw gangs, although it has been used for expansions since 2015 under the Cheonha Decree by King Ahn Chae-ho. Equipment wise, the Royal Army utilizes Korean War era weaponry due to its ease of manufacture and maintenance and plenty of such weapons stockpiled. Tanks are rarely used due to maintenance complexities with horse and bikes favored as cavalry units. Artillery in the form of howitzers, missile launchers, and mortars is still widely used by the Royal Army.
Navy: The Royal Fleet is the naval force of Daejin, having a size of 8,000 men in active duty, nearly half of them being Marines. The Royal Fleet utilizes smaller, older designs of warships due to cost of maintenance. The role of the Royal Fleet is dedicated towards defending Daejin's coastal waters against pirates and potential foreign invasion.
Other Info
Goals: Unification of the Korean peninsula under the Daejin Dynasty.
History: The nuclear holocaust caused a major ruckus in the Korean peninsula. Major cities in South Korea were hit by nuclear strikes, vaporizing over half of the Korean population. Cities throughout Korea and cities fell to riots from the nuclear winter. Any form of order in populated cities were found in metro stations in Seoul, where surviving governmental employees, soldiers, and civilians moved to. Although civilians and governmental and military remnants in the capital were able to flee to the Seoul Metro stations, surviving cities and military units outside of Seoul were left without command and were forced to fend for themselves. Contact was lost with the capital government as surviving civilians and soldiers made shelter in unfinished metro tunnels outside of Seoul. Outside of the Seoul metro, only cities spared from the nuclear fires and survivalist and military bunkers had any semblance of order and even those cities had suffered from food shortages, raiders, and the nuclear winter.

In one of the unfinished metro tunnels in Busan, a general by the name of Choi Hee-sung set up radio communications, hoping that he could re-establish communication with the central government in Seoul. In the meanwhile, he established the tunnel as safehaven for civilians, setting up the unfinished tunnel as a settlement and headquarter for the soldiers, regularly sending out parties to forage for supplies, hunt any animals found, or to re-establish order in neighboring settlements. After months and later years of no progress, the military units believed that the government was wiped out but General Choi continued to persist, believing that the Seoul government would pick up their message and reply back. He still sent men to establish order with the towns, forming a loose coalition of settlements in Busan. He soon passed away in 1998.

Choi Hee-sung was succeeded by a younger officer, a Major by the name of Ahn Chae-ho, who believed that the government was wiped out or abandoned the rest of the country die. Declaring that they themselves must take an active role in restoring order rather than waiting for a government that may not come back.

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The Frozen Forest
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Postby The Frozen Forest » Sat Oct 27, 2018 10:25 pm

Reservation:
Location: The Entirety of Japan (Hokkaido, Iwo Jima, Okinawa etc)
Nation Name: The Greater Japanese Empire
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Caltarania
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Postby Caltarania » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:00 am

The Frozen Forest wrote:Reservation:
Location: The Entirety of Japan (Hokkaido, Iwo Jima, Okinawa etc)
Nation Name: The Greater Japanese Empire
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Unfortunately Japan is already filled with pre-made states, and even were it not, this claim is far too large and regardless is denied.
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The Frozen Forest
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Postby The Frozen Forest » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:27 am

Caltarania wrote:
The Frozen Forest wrote:Reservation:
Location: The Entirety of Japan (Hokkaido, Iwo Jima, Okinawa etc)
Nation Name: The Greater Japanese Empire
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Unfortunately Japan is already filled with pre-made states, and even were it not, this claim is far too large and regardless is denied.


Well thats frustrating, but i suppose it doesn't matter.

Reservation:
Location: The brown in Japan | For whatever reason, photoshop felt it had to color over the province borders. Sorry about that.
Nation Name: The Greater Empire of Southern Japan
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North Quadana
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Postby North Quadana » Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:26 am

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Nation Name: Indonesian Empire
Symbols: Indonesian Flag, Coat of Arms
Location: Orange Islands in Southeast Asia
Population: Around 20 million
Capital City: Jakarta

Government Info
Government Type: Fascist Trade Union Sultanate
Brief Explanation of Government: The country is lead by a Sultan and by the Sultan's prime minister Grand Vizier who overlooks the job of the viziers and who has an absolute power of attorney.
Leader/s:
  • Head of State: Sultan Memed I
  • Head of Government: Grand Vizier Sargali Pasha
Relations WIP

Population Info
State Religion: Islam
Religious Policy: All citizens are mandated to follow Islam
Religious Situation: The only church in Indonesia is the Indonesian Islamic Church
State Ethnicity: Javanese people make up the most of the country with 58% of the people being Javanese.
Other Ethnicities Sundanese, Batak, Madurese and Balinese
Slavery: Slaves are legal in Indonesia and the ethnic people of Balinese are the only people enslaved. Indonesia has around 400'000 slaves.
Ethics:

Military Info
Army: 135'000 troops (55'000 active, 80'000 reserve)
Navy: 20'000 troops

Other Info
Goals: Become the leading economic power of Asia, Take over Western Australia.
History: WIP
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Izshibaki was in Riyakoto House again. The 1st floor was still being reconstrued after the terrorist attacks in April. He walked up the giant stairs and entered his cabinet to grab some paperwork. "Hi, Subaka." he greeted his assistant. He picked up the documents laying on his desk and went down the hallway to the meeting room. Izshibaki entered the room and was greeted by everyone.

"Last time we were here it ended pretty badly." Izshibaki said. "This is no joke, Mr. President. Teruvian Caliphate has made an ultimatum demanding total independence of Teruvian Republic and the independence of Kuzakao." said the Minister of Defense Hizuko Yagana. "I know. Quadana is weakened after the attacks in April, but we've got Kanjin back. If we retake Guskestan we will get access to the oil fields there." Izshibaki answered. "So you're saying that we don't give in to the Teruvians?" Commander Nihoga asked. "I think that it is very clear that Quadana doesn't give in to threats, especially from Teruvians." Izshibaki explained. "Commander Nihoga, I want you to mobilize our troops immediately. That includes the reserves. Send 10 divisions to Kanjin to protect the city and 5 divisions to Hinojin. teruvians will probably land in the Republic, so we have to retake Guskestan as fast as we can. Send as much men as you need, so you can retake Guskestan." Izshibaki said. "Understood. we will send 70000 men to Guskestan and surround Teruvian Republic." Nihoga said. "Good. Now, Mr. Yagana, make conscription in army mandatory. The parliament will give you a pass. I want as much Quadanese Men in the army as I can get. Oh, and contact the Joshenians." Izshibaki said. "Will do." Yagana answered. Izshibaki turned to Foreign Minister Kanabe. "I want you to start negotiations with the Teruvians. You will also pass down intelligence you have on the Caliphate down to QIA who will send spies to Caliphate." Izshibaki said. "That is a wrap on the meeting. I hope you understood your tasks." he said. Izshibaki picked up the documents and exited the cabinet.

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Caltarania
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Postby Caltarania » Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:01 am

The Frozen Forest wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
Unfortunately Japan is already filled with pre-made states, and even were it not, this claim is far too large and regardless is denied.


Well thats frustrating, but i suppose it doesn't matter.

Reservation:
Location: The brown in Japan | For whatever reason, photoshop felt it had to color over the province borders. Sorry about that.
Nation Name: The Greater Empire of Southern Japan
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I would still have to call out that claim for being disproportionately large and not taking into consideration current lore in the region; the beige NPC around Kyoto already houses an Imperial State.

North Quadana wrote:-snip


Nope, as you would know if you had read the first page of this thread, the areas coloured on the map - unless listed as an NPC - are already taken by players. Indonesia is one of those.
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Bering
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Postby Bering » Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:45 am

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Location: Ireland, Northern and Republic of,
Nation Name: Irish Union/Union of Ireland
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Out of curiosity, what do you guys think the odds of Dublin being hit by a nuke would be? Trying to decide on a capitol and ruling parties.

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Postby Lunas Legion » Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:53 am

Bering wrote:Reservation:
Location: Ireland, Northern and Republic of,
Nation Name: Irish Union/Union of Ireland
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Out of curiosity, what do you guys think the odds of Dublin being hit by a nuke would be? Trying to decide on a capitol and ruling parties.


Certainly. It's the national capital of a NATO member and the Soviets weren't exactly short on missiles or warheads.
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Postby Bering » Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:02 am

Lunas Legion wrote:
Bering wrote:Reservation:
Location: Ireland, Northern and Republic of,
Nation Name: Irish Union/Union of Ireland
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Out of curiosity, what do you guys think the odds of Dublin being hit by a nuke would be? Trying to decide on a capitol and ruling parties.


Certainly. It's the national capital of a NATO member and the Soviets weren't exactly short on missiles or warheads.

Ireland isn't in NATO (I checked) and has a standing claim of 'neutrality' in such matters. But was definitely biased toward the West during the Cold War and I believe it had treaties with the US on military stuff. Irish-Soviet relations were also kind of cold because the Soviets were more interested in Britain, than Ireland. I guess it's more of a question of if Ireland/Dublin is 'worth' hitting.

Not sure if I'm just arguing technicalities here, but I figure getting all the info out would be helpful.

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Postby Lunas Legion » Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:05 am

Bering wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
Certainly. It's the national capital of a NATO member and the Soviets weren't exactly short on missiles or warheads.

Ireland isn't in NATO (I checked) and has a standing claim of 'neutrality' in such matters. But was definitely biased toward the West during the Cold War and I believe it had treaties with the US on military stuff. Irish-Soviet relations were also kind of cold because the Soviets were more interested in Britain, than Ireland. I guess it's more of a question of if Ireland/Dublin is 'worth' hitting.

Not sure if I'm just arguing technicalities here, but I figure getting all the info out would be helpful.


It's not a matter of 'worth'; the Soviets had more than enough missiles and warheads to spare one or two for Dublin, and even if not hit you're right next to the UK which most certainly was.
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Postby Bering » Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:10 am

Lunas Legion wrote:
Bering wrote:Ireland isn't in NATO (I checked) and has a standing claim of 'neutrality' in such matters. But was definitely biased toward the West during the Cold War and I believe it had treaties with the US on military stuff. Irish-Soviet relations were also kind of cold because the Soviets were more interested in Britain, than Ireland. I guess it's more of a question of if Ireland/Dublin is 'worth' hitting.

Not sure if I'm just arguing technicalities here, but I figure getting all the info out would be helpful.


It's not a matter of 'worth'; the Soviets had more than enough missiles and warheads to spare one or two for Dublin, and even if not hit you're right next to the UK which most certainly was.

Yeah, I was definitely taking fallout into account since the UK was definitely a major target. As for 'worth', I meant more in terms of hitting Dublin v. hitting another target of interest in the UK again to make sure its out.

I'll err on the side of caution and assume both Dublin and Belfast (as a part of the UK) were hit

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Postby Skaldia » Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:28 am

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Nation Name: The Republic of Brazil
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Postby Caltarania » Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:32 am

Reservations noted, though I will be looking for a particularly good application for the Ireland player, given that the claim is larger than the origin country.
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Postby Caltarania » Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:37 am

A further note; if people are unsure as to what would be considered an acceptable or unacceptable claim, I would suggest the following:

1. Looking at the map for 1983: Doomsday, the map game on which this is based, to get a rough idea of what is considered acceptable.
2. Looking at the current map, and the current accepted claims.
3. Contacting myself or one of the Co-ops and asking.
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Postby Bering » Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:51 am

Caltarania wrote:Reservations noted, though I will be looking for a particularly good application for the Ireland player, given that the claim is larger than the origin country.

Noted, I will do my best.

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Postby The Frozen Forest » Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:47 pm

Caltarania wrote:
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SNIP

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Its roughly the same size if not smaller than the purple-colored nation in Hokkaido and northeastern Honshu. Additionally its smaller than Tibet, the brown nation in central China, the purple nation in southern India, The Soviet Government, the brown nation neighboring the Soviets, four nations in North America, one of New Zeelands islands, the gargantuan beast that is Indonesia and equally as large Argentina.

Is it not possible to have a pretender just south of the Imperial State? I don't mind making my claim even smaller but if i do it won't be able to compete with even the North Korean nation.
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Postby Caltarania » Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:27 pm

The Frozen Forest wrote:
Caltarania wrote:SNIP


Its roughly the same size if not smaller than the purple-colored nation in Hokkaido and northeastern Honshu. Additionally its smaller than Tibet, the brown nation in central China, the purple nation in southern India, The Soviet Government, the brown nation neighboring the Soviets, four nations in North America, one of New Zeelands islands, the gargantuan beast that is Indonesia and equally as large Argentina.

Is it not possible to have a pretender just south of the Imperial State? I don't mind making my claim even smaller but if i do it won't be able to compete with even the North Korean nation.


You can list claims larger than the one you apped with all you want, but ultimately they are utterly irrelevant as claims are handled on a case-by-case basis. Further, those claims were made by people who I knew and had proven their roleplay ability. If you do not care to ask as to why such nations - the "gargantuan" ones you mentioned - are in the Southern Hemisphere, the reasoning for their size may be lost on you.

Worries about "not being able to compete" with other nations ultimate undercut the exercise of the roleplay, which is to create, well, good roleplay and story, not to see who can paint the map fastest. Again, I suggest you either apply for one of the already marked Japanese NPC states (such as the beige, which houses the Emperor), or elsewhere.
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Postby The Frozen Forest » Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:48 pm

Caltarania wrote:
The Frozen Forest wrote:SNIP


SNIP


I would presume off my own intuition it is because they were apart of the non-aligned movement and were therefore neither supporters of the Soviet Union nor the United States, and weren't targeted with Nuclear Weapons as a result. Nations in the southern hemisphere i mean.

I have never, nor will i ever be concerned with coloring the map. RP's generally don't last long enough to do so even if that were my intention. My only concern is that a less-mature player will take control of a larger nation and sweep me aside before i have the opportunity to develop a good story.

I'm not the type to argue, i accept your decision and i'll draw up an app for the beige colored nation. Until then, consider this a reservation?
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Postby Krugmar » Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:55 pm

The Frozen Forest wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
SNIP


I would presume off my own intuition it is because they were apart of the non-aligned movement and were therefore neither supporters of the Soviet Union nor the United States, and weren't targeted with Nuclear Weapons as a result. Nations in the southern hemisphere i mean.

I have never, nor will i ever be concerned with coloring the map. RP's generally don't last long enough to do so even if that were my intention. My only concern is that a less-mature player will take control of a larger nation and sweep me aside before i have the opportunity to develop a good story.

I'm not the type to argue, i accept your decision and i'll draw up an app for the beige colored nation. Until then, consider this a reservation?


You are correct, though they still had to suffer with famines, riots, wars etc. They also aren't in particularly good shape, and if they try flexing too much too quickly or without good reason then bad things will happen to them.

If anybody tries map painting or generally badly done expansionist RP they'll be hit with a wave of calamitous events. If you fear anybody is doing it and we don't notice then let us know since evidently it's something we very much hate.

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Postby North Quadana » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:03 pm

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Location: Baltic States
Nation Name: Baltic Confederation
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Generic Info
Nation Name: Free Republic of Ireland
Symbols: Irish Flag
Location: Ireland
Population: 3.5 million (can lower if needed)
Capital City: Navan

Government Info
Government Type: Unitary parliamentary republic
Brief Explanation of Government: A unitary state with the Lower House, the Dáil made of 175 members elected via proportional representation to reflect the will of the entire nation and the Seanad being made up of 25 members (5 from each of the provinces of Ireland), elected by proportional representation. The Dáil selects the Taoiseach (Prime Minister) who selects a cabinet. The President of Ireland is largely a figurehead without power.
Leader/s: Taoiseach Michael Creed President
Relations TBA, open to friends

Leader Info
Name: Taoiseach Michael Creed
Age: 55
Skills, Education and Experience: St. Colman's College (1981-1983), Cork Provisional Assemblyman (1983-1986), Irish Provisional Government (1997), TD member for Cork (1997-), Minister for Agriculture and Food (2009-2011), Minister for Transport (2011-2014)
Family Members: Mary Creed (wife), Donal Creed (son), Louis Creed (son)
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History: Son of Donal Creed, Fine Gael's Minister of State for School Buildings and Sport when the bombs fell, Michael was quietly being groomed to take his father's place as TD. Michael was in school in St. Colman's College when the bombs fell. Creed returned to Cork and assisted in the governance of the city in the immediate aftermath of the fall of the bombs. Thanks in part to his name, Creed was able to secure a position on the provisional city chamber when the military arrived to restore order. Initially welcoming the news, Creed soon became a prominent critic of the military in Cork. Creed often clashed with the Military Governor of Cork and event spent time under various forms of arrest throughout the 80s and 90s.

When the Cork Government formed, Creed was one of the earliest members, using his connections in the city to secure an appointment to the provisional Dail. Creed became a firm supporter of Brosnan and was rewarded for his support by being made Minister for Education in 2005. After the 2009 election, Creed was promoted to the coveted Minister for Agriculture and Food. Under the Stanton government, Creed was transferred to Minister for Transport where he approved a number of new building projects that attracted the attention of the anti-Stanton forces. Creed was selected as a compromise candidate for leadership and led the party to a successful victory in the 2017 election, but the popularity of Fine Gael after over 20 years of governance is wearing thin and several of his decision are coming under increasing scrutiny.

Population Info
Religious Situation: Free worship is allowed, but most of the population follows the Roman Catholic Rite. One important item to note is due to the separation from the Catholic Church, The Prelate of Armagh in many ways acts as the head authority of the Catholic Church in Ireland. But the Prelates are very hesitant of questioning the Pope.
Culture(s): Irish
State Religion: Officially none, but the Irish Catholic Church retains a large amount of influence in governance
Religious Policy Free Worship
State Ethnicity Irish (Catholic), while not explicitly stated/required, catholicism is usually a requirement to be considered a part of the ethnicity by most of the (catholic) population
Other Ethnicities Ulster-Scot, English, Irish (Protestant)
Slavery: Outlawed
Ethics: Despite (or perhaps because of) what has happened since the bombs fell, the vast majority of all of the ethnics groups favor the liberal democracy that defined both of the previous states. Perhaps best encapsulated in the call that would becomes the motto of the protests of '97 "The Freedom to be Free".
A smaller subset of the population would prefer the Church to play a greater in the running of society, some say along with the state, fewer say above the state. The principle 'debate' among the majority and minority ethnicities of course being which church(es) that would be.
Another subset of the dominate Irish population harken for the old military regime, considering it a time of order, peace and dominance of the Irish, many of these have significant overlap with the more religiously inclined population (see history)

Military Info
Military Info - Army
Chief of Staff: Chief of Staff: General Seán O'Neill, Army Chief: Lieutenant General Michael O'Sullivan
Commander Selection: Merit is how officers are selected, with officers attending state-sponsored military academies for a number of years before taking command for themselves. At the point officers must work their way up the chain of command on their own merits. Though, as with most militaries, politics and connection plays some role in advancement.
Weaponry: The military largely imports their weapons from other nations or uses older weaponry from pre-1983 or taken from Northern Ireland. Many of the weapons manufactured in Ireland are based on older weapons and largely assigned to conscripts while advanced and high quality weapons are reversed for the regular/volunteer units.
Sophistication: Generally most of the Irish units are infantry units with only two mechanized battalions attached to the 1st and 2nd Brigades. The conscripted units primarily military units of 1960s or 1970s. Lightly armored designed to engage similarly equipped units or keep order. The volunteer units are designed more in-line with modern units, designed to be highly mobile and face a variety of threats. A gulf exists between the two unit types with the former seeing the latter as overconfident and overpaid decoration and the latter seeing the former as pampered at best and future sandbag fodder at worst.
Levying: The Irish Army are largely a conscripted force, recruits spend two years in the military. Volunteers are taken as well and sent to more combat ready units. Officers in conscript units are generally less strict on their men than other units.
Army Size ~20,000 men, divided into 6 Brigades (1st and 2nd are largely volunteer, 3rd-6th are largely conscript) and the Independent Ranger Battalion

Military Info - Navy
Chief of Staff: Chief of Staff: General Seán O'Neill, Naval Chief: Vice Admiral Patrick Megaw
Commander Selection: Merit is how officers are selected, with officers attending state-sponsored military academies for a number of years before taking command for themselves. At the point officers must work their way up the chain of command on their own merits. Though, as with most militaries, politics and connection plays some role in advancement.
Weaponry: Most of the older vessels are purchased from other nations, while the newer ones, most notably the frigates are constructed by Ireland.
Sophistication: Generally the primary role of the Navy is to keep Irish waters secure and search and rescue operations. Due to material shortages, the Navy often finds itself as the shunted service, constantly playing second fiddle to the Army. Best seen in the Navy's Submarine Service, or to be more precise, the lack of it. The Navy has long lobbied for larger surface warships and a submarine force. The former was eventually granted in the form of the Naomh-class frigates (itself a compromise from the more radical elements in Navy wanting Destroyers), but the latter being constantly denied. Instead the Navy is forced to rely on smaller vessels in possible invasions of Ireland.
Levying: Unlike the Army, most of the Navy is made up of volunteers who are generally interested in making careers in the service or learning a trade for civilian use.
Naval Size ~3,000
2 Frigates (1 in construction)
6 Offshore Patrol Vessels (3 in reserve)
4 Minesweepers (4 in reserve)
20 assorted small attack and patrol craft

Other Info
Goals: Keep Ireland free and independent
History: Bombs fell, country hurt, the same story was repeated across the world in 1983 and Ireland was no exception. The bombings wiped out both Dublin and Belfast, decapitating both political centers of Ireland. Both Irish states were sent into a state of confusion. The republic came under the brief control of its Chief of Staff, Lieutenant General Louis Hogan. Hogan set up a new capital in Newbridge or to be more precise, the DoD headquarters in Newbridge. Using the military and paramilitary groups, Hogan was able to re-establish control over much of the Republic. Northern Ireland had its own issue, sectarian fighting broke out due to the lack of a central government to establish order. Eventually, the Democratic Unionist Party under Ian Paisley was able to re-establish its own order with his "Ulster First Force" (UFF) a revival of his previously conceived 'Third Force'. Paisley named the new state, the Ulster State and himself as First Minister.

Both states, while claiming to be different, were very almost mirror images. Both sides suffered heavy casualties from conflicts that broke out during the aftermath of the bombs falling as well as the fallout from harsh winters and poor harvest season, seeing hundreds of thousands die. To maintain order and prevent collapse both Hogan and Paisley introduced conscription and relied heavily on both paramilitary groups and sectarian religious organizations. Both suspended several rights and elections for the duration of the crisis.

The two states were wary neighbors, both unsure of which side would betray whom first. However, both had more pressing concerns that prevented either from acting on their desires. The two states created a de facto peace while they put their own houses in order, eventually concluding in a formal agreement, termed the Ulster-Irish Agreement in 1985 between Hogan and Paisley. Despite the agreement, the situation in Northern Ireland continued to deteriorate as the IRA and UFF continued their campaigns against one another. Hogan, a patriot, felt compelled to support the IRA and Paisley owed his power to the UFF, allowed them to operate without oversight.

Tensions between the two states erupted over the Archbishop of Armagh, the Catholic Primate of all Ireland (head of the Catholic Church in Ireland) whose power grew with the end of his rival Archbishop of Dublin, The Archbishop, Tomás Ó Fiaich, had long been sympathetic to the IRA's cause and after the UFF's rise to power, began to covertly support them with supplies and aid. The Archbishop was arrested in March of 1986 by the UFF and died of a heart attack (under circumstances still debated to this day) while in custody. Massive protests erupted in both Irelands after the Archbishop's death. The IRA in Northern Ireland increased their campaigns against Paisley's government. The UFF responded by a massive repression campaign, starting with arresting known IRA members and escalating into breaking up peaceful demonstrations by protestors and 'suspected' IRA members. This in turn caused the IRA to increase their own efforts, causing the UFF to respond in kind.

Eventually Hogan was forced by his supporters in the military and paramilitary groups to threaten Northern Ireland to halt their actions. Paisley, realizing the gravity of the situation attempted to reign in the UFF, but was deposed and replaced by Ivan Foster as First Minister of Ulster. Foster, a more radical leader than Paisley escalated the situation by refusing the even meet with Hogan's representatives and encouraged the UFF to continue their campaign.

September, 1986 saw the beginning of the Liberation War (among republicans) or the Invasion of Ulster (among the loyalists). Republican forces (with support of the IRA) under Major General James Parker crossed the border into Northern Ireland and engaged North Ireland military forces and the UFF. Fighting lasted for several months before Republican forces managed to occupy the entirety of Northern Ireland. The fighting officially ended in August of 1987, but resistance continued for the rest of the 80s and well into the 90s. In an ironic twist, the IRA and UFF switched places, with the IRA acting as a state sponsored paramilitary force charged with maintained order in the north, while the UFF was an outlawed group fighting to liberate what they see as occupied land.

Despite the tensions in the North, the military's popularity was assured in the rest of the nation. General Hogan was elevated to a hero of Ireland. But, the general was approaching seventy years of age and wanted to quietly retire after holding free elections. He met resistance from the military staff who wanted to keep power within the armed forces. Eventually, the general found himself a prisoner in a gilded cage by his own subordinates. This unseen state of affairs continued until June 1993 when General Louis Hogan passed away. Hogan was mourned as a hero and uniter of Ireland.

However, the true power behind the scenes, the military staff found itself running out of time. Many of its own members were aging, none had the popularity of Hogan and distrusted of the staff had been growing among the field commanders and generals scattered around the country. The staff instead invited a handful of civilian politicians to rule alongside them, promising election as soon as circumstances permitted. The public was appeased for a few years, but when permitting circumstances never seemed to materialize, the people grew restless.

The death blows would come from two unrelated sources. The first was the Catholic Church, long supporting the regime, relation grew colder under Archbishop Cahal Daly, a compromise candidate installed by the government. Sympathetic to the protestants, critical of the IRA, a long proponent of understanding between the two sides and old (likely to die and be replaced by someone more inline with the government), being over seventy when he took the post. Daly had grown to become the de facto governor of Ulster, exercising a soft authority over every sector of Northern society. Daly was often a peacemaker between the UFF and IRA before being killed a bombing in early 1997. The IRA used this as an excuse to launch repressions against the UFF and their alleged supporters in the protestant community.

The second blow came from farmers. During reconstruction, the Irish military worked out an agreement over the distribution of their produce. The agreement held firm throughout the pre-war period, but became increasingly taxed after Northern Ireland was added to the Republic. Much of the farmland in the north was devastated by the war and put increasing pressure on the farmers in the rest of the country to give more and more of their yield to the military. Farmers who could not meet their quotas or refused had all of their crops taken by the military. A particularly bad yield in the autumn of 1996 left a desperate military little choice but to take more and more crops.

on 11 May 1997, news broke out that Archbishop Daly was killed by a rogue IRA cell made to look like the UFF was responsible and was subsequently covered up by IRA and government officials. This sparked the Summer of 1997 which saw massive protests against the government. The largest were in Newbridge, the 'temporary' capital of the country. The protests were put down violently by the regular forces garrisoning the city. News of the incident spread throughout the country as anger against the government mounted. Bereft of their usual supporters in the Church and rural areas, the military staff found themselves on the wrong side of a revolution. Newbridge, their headquarters soon became their last stronghold as civilians across the country with the support of local military commanders simply stopped following orders from Newbridge (a consequence of the staff's attempt to centralize power in Newbridge). A new government was hastily organized in Cork, drawing together various critics of the regime together. The old regime was overthrown in early June after a violent clash between regular forces loyal to them and conscripts loyal to the new popular government in Newbridge. Hate for the regime did kill the regime, the staff had simply ran out of supporters ready for to fight for them and died a quickly and suddenly, not unlike the government they had replaced.

Cork became a center of activity for the new government as it desperately attempted to restore a semblance of normality to a land that was without leadership. Spokesmen for the new government were selected and a constitutional convention was organized for a new united Ireland. Outside of Cork a slew of activity began as several military commanders who had sworn allegiance to the new government set themselves as something resembling feudal lords, each waiting for the new government to fall and for them to become the second General Hogan. The situation was most tense in the north were fears alternated between a coup led by the UFF to restore protestant Ulster, a coup by the IRA to establish a police state to take out the former once and for all before the dust in the south settled and a coup by the military to try and reestablish a military state.

Any disagreement could have ended the young government before it started. As the Summer of 1997 dragged on, things worked out for the young republic. The government settled on a relatively young actor turned resistance leader named Pierce Brosnan who had some success in the United States before finding himself in Ireland when the bombs fell. A critic of the military regime, a recognizable name and without any pre-1983 enemies or baggage. A few abortive attempts to seize power by military officers were stopped by their men who were not interested in fighting their own countryman. The fears in Northern Ireland amount to nothing as the military and Catholic Church under Archbishop
Alec Reid worked out a peace agreement between the warring factions.

Eager to secure their legimatacty, the Cork government held elections in August of 1997 to elect the Dáil. Brosnan was able to cobble together a coalition to name him Taoiseach. With his mandate, Brosnan announced a three-point plan: peace in the north, revitalizing the economy and putting Ireland back to its pre-1983 state. On the first point, Brosnan met with leaders of UFF and IRA to craft a lasting peace. Brosnan continued the redistribution of food that the military, but in a more equitable manner to farmers by working through local farmer association to more evenly spread out the losses. Brosnan also put the military to work as laborers, using them to rebuild an Ireland devastated by conflict for the past decade-and-a-half. The Winter of 1997-98 is commonly cited as one of the best since the fall of the bombs.

The first of Brosnan's promises was fulfilled in April of 1998 with the Good Friday Treaty which saw an agreement between the UFF and IRA to lay down their arms and transfer power to a Reconciliation Unit manned by people from both sides of the conflict. The agreement also created the Ulster Truth Commission which traded immunity for honesty. The commission was created to discover the truth behind the conflict and allow the people Ulster to put the Troubles behind them. Any member of any side in the conflict could testify on record before the commission on their role in the troubles in exchange for immunity from prosecution. A controversial move, it was seen as amnesty, though Brosnan and his supporters stressed it as about allowing rehabilitation and punishment. Brosnan also agreed to give Ulster 10 seats in the newly created Seanad as compared to the 5 given to each other province on the understanding that the seats would be evenly split between protestants and catholics. The extra seats would be reduced with each subsequent election of a full term of the parliament (preventing a succession of quick election to reduce the numbers), The treaty split the Dail into sides that were semi-ironically, semi-fearfully called the pro- and anti-treaty factions. The factions would eventually coalesce into the pre-war parties of Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil.

Brosnan would lead Fine Gael to electoral victories in 2001, 2005 and 2009 before retiring in 2011. His term was marked by a revitalized nation with a steady rebuilding and a strong agricultural sector that ensured a well-fed population. Mining and offshore drilling also increased as Ireland struggled to rebuild its manufacturing sector with some success. horse-drawn carriages and bicycles remain the primary mode of transportation for many rural regions of Ireland (most of it) with bicycles being ubiquitous in towns and cities. Mass transit is dominated by the coal-powered trains of the state owned Irish Railways which has aggressively expanded railways across Ireland. The very few remaining aircraft are jealously guarded by the military and most of the functional automobiles are military or government owned and only sparsely used. Dublin and Belfast remain largely untouched, replaced by Navan and Lisburn respectively. Brosnan would joke that his greatest achievement was managing to convince the Dail to move the capital to his hometown of Navan.

Brosnan was replaced by his hand-picked lieutenant, David Stanton, former Tánaiste and Minister for Finance. Stanton was a major engineer of Brosnan's economic policies and fairly well regarded within the party. Stanton led the party to victory in the 2013 election, only to be voted out of the leadership a year leader. Stanton commanded much respect from the party stalwarts that voted him in power in 2011, but many of those members did not contest the 2013 election and were replaced a new generation of Fine Gael politicians who saw Stanton as an obstacle to reform. The 2013 election saw the Fine Gael lose a number of seats to their rivals, Fianna Fáil but also saw both the Worker's Party and Protestant Union Party gain seats, leaving Fine Gael with a slim majority. The young politicians of the party proved pivotal in securing continued dominance for Fine Gael. Stanton agreed to step down in favor of the Minister for Transport Michael Creed, an older TD who was well regarded among both old and new party members as a honest and hardworking Minister.

Despite a shaky start, Creed was boosted by the discovery of the Kinsale Head gas field in late 2014, which brought a great deal more energy to Ireland and sent energy prices falling when the project officially opened in 2016. Fine Gael used this victory to propel them to their seventh straight electoral win, even gaining a few seats. However, Fine Gael enthusiasm has been steadily failing as the economic revitalization program stagnated and rising cost of various governmental programs, especially the new frigate program approved for the Navy.. Fine Gael has also seen a great deal of backlash from an agreement in Ulster to enter a coalition government with the Protestant Union Party under Ian Paisley Jr., son of the controversial former First Minister. Creed now has the unenviable task of continuing his party's winning tradition while facing heavy backlash for their lack of new ideas. Time will tell if Creed can successfully balance these interests before the next election.

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Postby The Greater Low Countries » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:49 pm

Was planning on doing an East Sicilian Empire but Sicily is taken. But count me interested.
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Postby Bering » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:15 pm

Also wanted to say everyone feel free to nitpick my app, I’m still researching info. And if anyone wants their country to have a more active role in my history, especially British and such players, let me know.

It’s also a conscious decision on my part to gloss over events like the the NI-RI war because it would have been a lot about battles and changing fronts which are not as important as the after effects that will reverberate, but if anyone wants to send volunteers or something, I can add that in.
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Postby Skaldia » Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:25 am

After much deliberation, I've decided to withdraw my reservation from this. I'm currently just too swamped with what I have going on and feel like, even if I could get an app up, my involvement would not be as heavy I feel like an RP of this caliber deserves. Many apologies.
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