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Dahyan
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Postby Dahyan » Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:37 pm

I'm thinking of applying for the Uqaylids or something similar. Unless there are urgent needs for nations to be RP'ed?
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Postby Imperialisium » Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:55 pm

Dahyan wrote:I'm thinking of applying for the Uqaylids or something similar. Unless there are urgent needs for nations to be Rap'ed?


That’s fine, I’m terms of other nations we may need a new Poland or Hungary in a few days. But for immediately jumping in the Uqaylids would work
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Postby Ruskland-Preuben » Wed Nov 28, 2018 12:33 am

Dahyan wrote:I'm thinking of applying for the Uqaylids or something similar. Unless there are urgent needs for nations to be Rap'ed?

Hungary pls.
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Dahyan
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Postby Dahyan » Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:40 am

Ruskland-Preuben wrote:
Dahyan wrote:I'm thinking of applying for the Uqaylids or something similar. Unless there are urgent needs for nations to be Rap'ed?

Hungary pls.

Did the Hungary player get removed already?
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Postby Ruskland-Preuben » Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:52 am

Dahyan wrote:
Ruskland-Preuben wrote:Hungary pls.

Did the Hungary player get removed already?

Idk but I need someone to talk to in the IC, alliances and stuff.
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Of the Quendi
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Postby Of the Quendi » Wed Nov 28, 2018 2:19 am

Imperialisium wrote:We do have a Hungarian player, but they haven't been active. I'd TG them and if they don't reply in a reasonable amount of time I guess I can puppet them.

We seem to have quite a few inactive players, maybe its time to remove some people from the roster, it would be a shame if someone looks at the RP and consider joining but think that everything good is already taken.
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Alcarinqua ar Meneldëa Arda i Eruhíni i sé Amanaranyë ar Aramanaranyë (long form)

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Dahyan
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Postby Dahyan » Wed Nov 28, 2018 2:25 am

I'd be willing to take a European country if that's where the action is and more players are needed, but indeed I need to be sure which ones are free or will be free soon.
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Postby Of the Quendi » Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:33 am

Dahyan wrote:I'd be willing to take a European country if that's where the action is and more players are needed, but indeed I need to be sure which ones are free or will be free soon.

I would say the Mediterranean is where the action is and as for needed if Historikal's Fatimids have gone inactive thats a pretty needed player in my opinion.
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Dahyan
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Postby Dahyan » Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:59 am

Of the Quendi wrote:
Dahyan wrote:I'd be willing to take a European country if that's where the action is and more players are needed, but indeed I need to be sure which ones are free or will be free soon.

I would say the Mediterranean is where the action is and as for needed if Historikal's Fatimids have gone inactive thats a pretty needed player in my opinion.


The Fatimids are definitely up my alley, if a new player is needed I'd very much like to apply for them.
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Postby Imperialisium » Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:01 pm

Sent TG's out to Historikal and Huron. If I dont hear back or they say no then Fatimids and Hungary will be reopened.
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Postby Andsed » Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:02 pm

Hey I'm still in this guys I'm just waiting for France to respond.
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:20 pm

Short post just to get the ball rolling. Will be able to know more once the Byzantines respond to my offer. It'll be a bit of personal drama for my king too since he's a homosexual (which I'm learning isn't actually as rare as we may have thought it to be in the Middle Ages).
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Postby Of the Quendi » Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:07 am

Pasong Tirad wrote:Short post just to get the ball rolling. Will be able to know more once the Byzantines respond to my offer. It'll be a bit of personal drama for my king too since he's a homosexual (which I'm learning isn't actually as rare as we may have thought it to be in the Middle Ages).

Tell me about it. Al-Hakam II had an all male harem and only managed to sire a son because his concubine Subh dressed in men's clothing and cut her hair short.

Apparently homosexuality in Al-Andalus was so widespread that medieval Christian opposition to homosexuality in Iberia seem to stem in part from their general hostility towards the Muslims.
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Alcarinqua ar Meneldëa Arda i Eruhíni i sé Amanaranyë ar Aramanaranyë (long form)

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Nasaira
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Postby Nasaira » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:01 am

I was just curious what kingdoms are open or perhaps may I play as vassal of an already occupied kingdom. Example being the Duke of York.

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Postby Pasong Tirad » Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:41 pm

Of the Quendi wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:Short post just to get the ball rolling. Will be able to know more once the Byzantines respond to my offer. It'll be a bit of personal drama for my king too since he's a homosexual (which I'm learning isn't actually as rare as we may have thought it to be in the Middle Ages).

Tell me about it. Al-Hakam II had an all male harem and only managed to sire a son because his concubine Subh dressed in men's clothing and cut her hair short.

Apparently homosexuality in Al-Andalus was so widespread that medieval Christian opposition to homosexuality in Iberia seem to stem in part from their general hostility towards the Muslims.

That is actually quite fascinating to learn. Now I must Wiki him.

Nasaira wrote:I was just curious what kingdoms are open or perhaps may I play as vassal of an already occupied kingdom. Example being the Duke of York.

Plenty parts of Europe are open - particularly Western Europe (maybe in Spain), and Northern Europe. As for vassal you'd have to ask for permission from the person who you want to be your liege. France, for example, has many parts of it that are open and I'm sure the French player would be more than happy to have another duke or prince to control.

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Postby Adab » Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:32 am

Apologies for not being more active, but my Internet connection has been quite bad the past few days and I'm quite saddled with homework, but hopefully I will be able to post again very soon.
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Dahyan
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Postby Dahyan » Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:46 am

Any news on whether the Fatimids are open by now?
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Postby Of the Quendi » Fri Nov 30, 2018 1:04 pm

Nasaira wrote:I was just curious what kingdoms are open or perhaps may I play as vassal of an already occupied kingdom. Example being the Duke of York.

The three earls of England (since you mentioned an English fiefdom specifically), just about everything in France and the Holy Roman Empire are available vassals. For a truly interesting an involved vassal I would look to the Zirids, with Malta about to be invaded, activity from the Fatimids hopefully about to pick up and with my Andalusians looking West there might be a lot to do there.
Pasong Tirad wrote:That is actually quite fascinating to learn. Now I must Wiki him.

Plenty parts of Europe are open - particularly Western Europe (maybe in Spain), and Northern Europe. As for vassal you'd have to ask for permission from the person who you want to be your liege. France, for example, has many parts of it that are open and I'm sure the French player would be more than happy to have another duke or prince to control.

Again with Spain. I own that place, there is no room for anyone else except my vassals. :twisted:

Yeah its pretty interesting. Abd ar-Rahman III also seem to have had at least a bisexual outlook (his number of offsprings make outright homosexuality unlikely) apparently he tried to seduce a Christian boy (Pelagius of Córdoba) who said no and was then executed. So naturally the boy became a saint and an inspiration for Iberian reconquistadors for generations to come.
Dahyan wrote:Any news on whether the Fatimids are open by now?

Soon no doubt.
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Postby Suryak » Fri Nov 30, 2018 5:53 pm

NationStates Name:Suryak
Nation Name:Empire of Gujrat
Capital:Dwaraka
Government Type: (Feudal, Republic, Theocratic, Imperial) Theocratic Medieval Republic
Head of Government: Duke-Emperor Trilochana The Great
Dynasty/Family Name:Trilochana Dynasty
Population: Um.... Can the OP decide this one?
Eligible Military Population: (total eligible males, NOT what you can field)Above
Territorial Claims: (These give you starting Casus Belli's over territory occupied by another nation that you view as de jure your own)If This is my actual territory...... whats left or claimable of Modern India Pakistan and Afghanistan
State Religion: Hinduism
Dominant Religion:Above
Minority religions:Muslims, Parsi
Religious Information: After invading Muslim-Dominated areas, they converted(brutally) most of the Muslims
Economy Information: Spices, silks, and jewels are the richest exports. Other than that, rice.
Military Information:Can't get too specific, normal medieval stuff with war elephants and chariots.
History: (need not be exhausting, just some details so we can get a bit of your nations past and heritage)


Ruler's Name:
Ruler's: Age:
Ruler's Personality:
Physical Appearance:
Ruler's Family Information: (describe other important family members)
Ruler's History:


Anything I should know about you player wise?:

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Postby Adab » Fri Nov 30, 2018 7:30 pm

This is a question I've been wondering about for some time: if two players get into a battle, does one player get to RP part of the battle and the other picks up where the first player leaves off, or does whoever gets to RP first get to roleplay the whole battle and will the other player just have to accept it?
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Of the Quendi
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Postby Of the Quendi » Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:11 am

Adab wrote:This is a question I've been wondering about for some time: if two players get into a battle, does one player get to RP part of the battle and the other picks up where the first player leaves off, or does whoever gets to RP first get to roleplay the whole battle and will the other player just have to accept it?

Since its not specified to be any different in the OP surely standard freeform rules applies, which I guess is what your first option describes. Having one player RP another player's characters is surely not permitted.
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:08 am

Of the Quendi wrote:
Adab wrote:This is a question I've been wondering about for some time: if two players get into a battle, does one player get to RP part of the battle and the other picks up where the first player leaves off, or does whoever gets to RP first get to roleplay the whole battle and will the other player just have to accept it?

Since its not specified to be any different in the OP surely standard freeform rules applies, which I guess is what your first option describes. Having one player RP another player's characters is surely not permitted.

Also assuming that standard unwritten guidelines apply: the two people talk it out and try and hash out a proper agreement to how the battle will proceed. If no consensus can be reached OP steps in to mediate, and several other factors in the writing allow for a little more randomness so that it's not too restricted to what the two players just talked about.

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Postby Imperialisium » Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:48 am

Dahyan wrote:Any news on whether the Fatimids are open by now?


Haven’t had any news yet and it’s been almost three days. So I guess throw up an app
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Postby Dahyan » Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:01 pm

Imperialisium wrote:
Dahyan wrote:Any news on whether the Fatimids are open by now?


Haven’t had any news yet and it’s been almost three days. So I guess throw up an app

Will do, working on it!
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Postby Dahyan » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:34 am

My Fatimid application is done. I used the previous one as a template, but changed and added some things.

NationStates Name: Dahyan
Nation Name: Fatimid Caliphate
Capital: Al-Qahira (royal), Fustat (administrative)
Government Type: Iqta Feudalism
Head of Government: Caliph Al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah
Dynasty/Family Name: Fatimids
Population: ~8 Million
Eligible Military Population: 80,000-400,0000
Territory: https://i.imgur.com/7AfTJBH.png
Territorial Claims: Sicily, Cyprus, Crete.
State Religion: Ismaili Shi'a Islam
Dominant Religion: Ismaili Shi'a Islam
Minority religions: Sunni Islam, Eastern Orthodox Christianity, Miaphysite Christianity, Judaism.
Religious Information: While the official religion of the Fatimids and the main court of the Caliph is the Ismaili Shi'a Islam, the Fatimid Caliphate is generally tolerant, although certain specific Sunni practices that are considered to be later additions to the Islamic faith are heavily discouraged or even banned from public practice. The current Caliph, Al-Hakim, views his actions as divinely inspired.
Economy Information: The Caliphate is very wealthy, controlling the massive amd fertile lands at the banks of the river Nile and at the Mediterranean coasts of North Africa and Palestine. The port city of Alexandria is the economic capital of the empire, and one of the major commercial venues of the Mediterranean, supported by other port cities such as Fustat and Jerusalem.
Military Information: The military of the Fatimid Caliphate is vast and well organised. Originally based on the warrior code of the Hutuma Berbers that form the core of the armed forces, the Fatimid military is generally organised along ethnic lines, based on the traditional military skills of each culture represented. The Berber units usually make up the light cavalry and foot skirmishers, the Turks fulfill the duty of horse archers or Mamluk heavy cavalry forces, and Arab and Sudanese heavy infantry and foot archers.

While the Fatimid Army was strong, it's navy is the pride of the Mediterranean, rivaled only by the Imperial Fleet of the Byzantine Empire and counting some 75 dedicated warships. Its primary base is at Fustat. The fleet was made up of several different kinds of vessels, all generally modeled around the Byzantine Dromon. In tactics and strategy, the Fatimids primarily used the fleet to ensure the survival of their holdings in Palestine and Syria, while also forming a shield around Egypt and North Africa.

Generally, the Fatimid military doctrine is defensive, especially regarding their Levantine possessions, where the threat of Byzantine and Abbasid interference is most acute.

History: The Fatimid Dynasty began in Tunisia, originating from the Berber tribes of that region.

In the early 10th century, the 11th Imam of the Ismaili Shia sect, Abdullah al-Mahdi Billah, moved from Syria to Morocco in order to escape persecution at the hands of the Abbasid rulers and to preach to the local population. As a resukt, Al-Mahdi was mprisoned by the Aghlabid emir, who was a vassal of the Abbasids.

The influential Shia cleric Abu Abdallah al-Shi'i however, who had served under Al-Mahdi's father Imam al Husain al Mastoor, threw his support behind Al-Mahdi, and started rallying the downtrodden Berber population in revolution against the Aghlabids. After conquering the Aghlabid capital of Raqqada, al-Shi'i succeeded in liberating Al-Mahdi, who then took position as the leader of the fledgling new state.

Al-Mahdi spent much of the rest of his life establishing the new Ismaili state in North Africa, as well as carrying out attacks against Byzantine possessions in Italy and Sicily, following a secret agreement with the Bulgarians.

Eventually, the Fatimids turned their attention towards their old nemesis, the empire that had always betrayed and persecuted them: the Abbasids.

While the Caliph there was technically the overlord of the Sunni Islamic world, in truth his writ carried little weight outside of Mesopotamia. Egypt was conquered by the Fatimids in 696, and they built a grand new capital at Al-Qahira. Around this time, the Fatimid Amir challenged the authority of the Abbasid Caliphs, directly staking a claim to leadership over the Ummah, and taking the title of Caliph for themselves. Claiming direct descendance from the Prophet Muhammad himself through his daughter Fatima, the Fatimids established a zealous Ismaili Shia state in Egypt, driving out the corrupt rule of the Abbasids. Supported by loyal Berber tribes as well as devout religious warriors, the new Caliphate was established with its seat in Al-Qahira.

After this, the swift expansion into Syria and Arabia prompted increased concern by their neighbors, especially when Palestine and the holy city of Jerusalem came under Fatimid control. Subsequently, the Caliphate and the Byzantines found themselves at war yet again for a great part of the remaining century.

With a peace treaty with the Byzantines signed in the year 1000, the Fatimids turned inwards, focusing on their economic, and cultural health. This period of peace was cultivated by the young Caliph Al-Hakim, who had assumed the throne at a mere 11 years of age.

Enlightened and peaceful, Al-Hakim kept the Fatimids out of any foreign wars for almost two decades. During this time, Egypt was extremely prosperous, and the court at Al-Qahira was renowned for its extravagance and beauty, as well as being a haven for intellectual discussion and scholarly study. The House of Wisdom in Al-Qahira became one the world's major centres for sciences, theology and philosophy, while so-called Wisdom Sessions are dedicated to the theological study of the more esoteric mysteries of the Ismaili school of thought.

This period of extended prosperity allowed for the treasury to grow fat and by 1018, the Fatimid state was in a powerful position, being well funded, and with a powerful army. Caliph Al-Hakim still rules, though in recent years he has become more prone to religious intolerance.

Ruler's Name: Al-Hakim
Ruler's: Age: 33 (Born in 985)
Ruler's Personality: Al-Hakim is not a warrior, but rather a scholar. Intelligent, and pious, he is deeply devoted to the islamic faith, and is more suspicious of religious minorities than his predecessors.

Despite his scholarly disposition, he is a ruthless politician, and is not afraid to be violent if need be. He is an advocate of increased trade through the empire.

Al-Hakim is a very pious man, and is notable for his simple and at times even ascetic lifestyle. He has been known to ban Christian and even Sunni practices that he considers to be insulting to Islam. As Caliph, he is known for being ruthless when it comes to rooting out all signs of corruption or immorality at court, and has had numerous high-ranking courtiers executed

Physical Appearance:

Ruler's Family Information: Ali az-Zahir, son of the Caliph, born in 1005.
Ruler's History: The son of the previous Caliph, al-Hakim became the Fatamid ruler after his father died of illness while touring Syria in 996. A young al-Hakim was only 11, and so power was vested in a number of regents. For the next four years, al-Hakim was a pawn in other men's games, and he found himself dangerously weak. After his Vizier was murdered in 1000, he decided to take the reins of power fully, aged only 15. At this young age, he ordered a political purge, killing many of the Fatimid power players that had dominated his regency. Much of al-Hakim's reign has been focused on internal development and strengthening the current Fatimid dynasty, rather than engaging in foreign conquest.

Despite this, there has been an intense friction with both the Abbasid Caliph in Baghdad, and the Byantine Emperor in Constantinople. While al-Hakim has avoided open war, he has also kept the military well provisioned, especially in Syria and Palestine. As Caliph, al-Hakim has promoted the arts, learning, and science, and has maintained a cordial relation with most religions in Egypt, though, in recent years, he has begun to exert more control over them.
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