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Postby Scottish Socialists » Sun Sep 30, 2018 4:17 pm

Suryak wrote:Oh btw Bharat = Indian in Hindi

Oof

Bharat means jackass in Gaelic, lmao
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Postby Suryak » Sun Sep 30, 2018 4:19 pm

TRIGGERED

I love how we have no idea how strong our allies are and we naturally assume we'll win
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Postby Andsed » Sun Sep 30, 2018 4:33 pm

Scottish Socialists wrote:
Suryak wrote:Nah.


I have a weapon.

Hah.
You have a weapon.
We have a Hulk.

Picture of said fascist hating hulk:

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Postby Suryak » Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:21 pm

Picture of said secret weapon:

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Postby Panira » Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:22 pm

Suryak wrote:Picture of said secret weapon:





Long live the King!


Wait, you weren't supposed to give that away yet! :p

Ah, whatever.
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Postby Andsed » Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:25 pm

Panira wrote:
Suryak wrote:Picture of said secret weapon:





Long live the King!


Wait, you weren't supposed to give that away yet! :p

Ah, whatever.

Ah the Brits who don´t even have their empire is your backup. Unless you get Germany or Russia to help you your screwed as I can outproduce you both seeing as the US had a higher GDP than all the axis nations combined in real life. :)
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Postby Suryak » Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:25 pm

This really will be fun.
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Postby Suryak » Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:25 pm

Scotland was literally begging for them not to go to war.
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Postby Andsed » Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:26 pm

Suryak wrote:This really will be fun.

For me and my american patriot ass kicking boys yeah it will be fun. :p
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Postby Andsed » Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:27 pm

Suryak wrote:Scotland was literally begging for them not to go to war.

Yeah cause the scots did not know they had american help. :p
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Postby Ruslava » Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:27 pm

How long until the ic is up? Eager to start.

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Postby Panira » Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:29 pm

Andsed wrote:
Panira wrote:
Wait, you weren't supposed to give that away yet! :p

Ah, whatever.

Ah the Brits who don´t even have their empire is your backup. Unless you get Germany or Russia to help you your screwed as I can outproduce you both seeing as the US had a higher GDP than all the axis nations combined in real life. :)


What incentive does the US have to get involved, provided we don't provoke them?
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Postby Panira » Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:29 pm

Suryak wrote:This really will be fun.


Agreed :)


Ruslava wrote:How long until the ic is up? Eager to start.


Ditto
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Postby Nurenia » Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:44 pm

Suryak wrote:This really will be fun.

If things go to plan, there should be a lot of tension and even warfare over in South America, as well. (Now we know it's alternate history. :p )

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Postby Andsed » Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:46 pm

Panira wrote:
Andsed wrote:Ah the Brits who don´t even have their empire is your backup. Unless you get Germany or Russia to help you your screwed as I can outproduce you both seeing as the US had a higher GDP than all the axis nations combined in real life. :)


What incentive does the US have to get involved, provided we don't provoke them?

Simple why publicly the US is trying to stay neutral they need allies so they support democracies like Scotland against Fascists and Communist. The US also wants to keep Fascism and Communism from spreading.
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Postby Panira » Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:46 pm

Andsed wrote:
Panira wrote:
What incentive does the US have to get involved, provided we don't provoke them?

Simple why publicly the US is trying to stay neutral they need allies so they support democracies like Scotland against Fascists and Communist. The US also wants to keep Fascism and Communism from spreading.


Fair enough.
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Postby Panira » Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:47 pm

Nurenia wrote:
Suryak wrote:This really will be fun.

If things go to plan, there should be a lot of tension and even warfare over in South America, as well. (Now we know it's alternate history. :p )


Speaking of which - hey Brazil, wanna join the anti-Scot side of the war?
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Postby Nurenia » Sun Sep 30, 2018 7:04 pm

Panira wrote:
Nurenia wrote:If things go to plan, there should be a lot of tension and even warfare over in South America, as well. (Now we know it's alternate history. :p )


Speaking of which - hey Brazil, wanna join the anti-Scot side of the war?

While it would be split with several good reasons to support either side, as of yet, it would seem that I would side with the Brits. However, it would be an extremely loose alliance due to Britain's political uncertainty and rise of fascism, which Brazil is inherently against. I'd still want to keep relations relatively high with Scotland though, since if the LLU goes ahead with fascism and fascists gain control of Britain, the communist Brazil would immediately switch to the opposing side. There is always the possibility of a major administrative shift due to rising fascist support in the regions bordering Patagonia and Venezuela and growing democratic (pro-USA more than anything) influence in the major cities, though.

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Postby Panira » Sun Sep 30, 2018 7:13 pm

Nurenia wrote:
Panira wrote:
Speaking of which - hey Brazil, wanna join the anti-Scot side of the war?

While it would be split with several good reasons to support either side, as of yet, it would seem that I would side with the Brits. However, it would be an extremely loose alliance due to Britain's political uncertainty and rise of fascism, which Brazil is inherently against. I'd still want to keep relations relatively high with Scotland though, since if the LLU goes ahead with fascism and fascists gain control of Britain, the communist Brazil would immediately switch to the opposing side. There is always the possibility of a major administrative shift due to rising fascist support in the regions bordering Patagonia and Venezuela and growing democratic (pro-USA more than anything) influence in the major cities, though.


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Postby Nurenia » Sun Sep 30, 2018 7:55 pm

Nurenia wrote:
Panira wrote:
Speaking of which - hey Brazil, wanna join the anti-Scot side of the war?

While it would be split with several good reasons to support either side, as of yet, it would seem that I would side with the Brits. However, it would be an extremely loose alliance due to Britain's political uncertainty and rise of fascism, which Brazil is inherently against. I'd still want to keep relations relatively high with Scotland though, since if the LLU goes ahead with fascism and fascists gain control of Britain, the communist Brazil would immediately switch to the opposing side. There is always the possibility of a major administrative shift due to rising fascist support in the regions bordering Patagonia and Venezuela and growing democratic (pro-USA more than anything) influence in the major cities, though.

Also keep in mind the wild cards of Peru, Ecuador, Venezuela, Colombia, Central America, and the Caribbean, which if played right can tip the scales in favor of one side or another here in Latin America.

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Postby Scottish Socialists » Sun Sep 30, 2018 11:18 pm

Suryak wrote:Scotland was literally begging for them not to go to war.

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Postby Barapam » Sun Sep 30, 2018 11:56 pm

Andsed wrote:
Panira wrote:
What incentive does the US have to get involved, provided we don't provoke them?

Simple why publicly the US is trying to stay neutral they need allies so they support democracies like Scotland against Fascists and Communist. The US also wants to keep Fascism and Communism from spreading.

Yeess! Poland might have a protector! Along with Scotland and France I presume.
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NATION PROFILE

Nationstates Name - Arvenia
Nation Name - Bangsa Melayu (Malay Nation)

Capital - Kuala Lumpur
Territory - Malaysia, Indonesia, Brunei, East Timor, Kra Isthmus, Andaman Islands, Nicobar Islands and Southern Thailand
Population - 105,000,000 (Approximately)
Map Color - Yellow

Type of Government - Federation under One-Bloc System and Representative Democracy
Alignment - Quasi-Fascist (technically standing between fascism and neutrality)

Head of State(s) - Abdul Razak Hamidi (Wakil Agung Bangsa Melayu/Supreme Representative of the Malay Nation)
Head of Government - Ibrahim Jaafar (Pengerusi Perikatan Nasional/Chairman of the National Alliance)
Party or Coalition in Power - Perikatan Nasional (National Alliance)
Executive Title - See above

Religion Breakdown - 45% Muslim, 25% Buddhist, 12% Christian, 8% Hindu, 6% Popular (Folk Religion) and 4% Other
Flag - Bendera Melayu
National Anthem - Tanah Murni (Land of the Pure)

Public Goals - Promote Malay nationalism, expand the military, strengthen the economy, retain national unity and remain on friendly terms with the UK
Private Goals - Annex both Singapore and the Philippines, oppose Japanese influence, oppose Thai influence, oppose Chinese influence and oppose American influence

Military name - Angkatan Pertahanan Nasional (National Defence Forces)
Military branches - Tentera Darat (Malayan Army), Tentera Laut (Malayan Navy), Angkatan Udara (Malay Air Force), Acara Polis Tentera Bersama (Joint Military Police Service), Pertahanan Awam (National Civil Defence Force) and Angaktan Bersekutu Bangsa Melayu (Allied Forces of the Malay Nation)
Total military size - 1,200,000 (800,000 actives and 400,000 reserves)
Breakdown of ground sector - 600,000 (450,000 actives and 150,000 reserves)
Breakdown of naval sector - 120,000 (84,000 and 36,000 reserves)
Breakdown of airforce sector - 80,000 (63,000 actives and 27,000 reserves)
Extra military information - The APTB is a joint MP command, the PA is a civil defence organization and the ABBM is the SS-like military wing of the ruling PN bloc. The ABBM is composed of various paramilitary wings, each belonging to a member-party of the PN. The ABBM is also considered to be the Malay Schutzstaffel. Essentially, the TD (army), the TL (navy) and the AU (air force) are the official branches of the APN.
Currency - Ringgit
Currency and value of currency compared to USD - 1 ringgit = $0.241515

Major Domestic Issues - Political opposition and ethnic tensions
Major Foreign Issues - USA, PAC, Japan, Thailand, China and Britain

History - The history is the same until the end of the Great War. Malay nationalism was becoming extremely more popular in both British Malaysia and Dutch Indonesia. In 1920, political parties adhering to this ideology were soon united under a philosopher named Ibrahim Jaafar, who helped forming a bloc for these parties known as the "Perikatan Nasional". Thought politically compatible, the left and the right get soon split up within certain policies, mainly the ones that are social and economic. The social policies were still right-wing while the economic policies became left-wing. The bloc fought politically for Malay independence from both the UK and the Netherlands. The goal was achieved in 1928, when the bloc easily gained power after intimidating Britishmen and Dutchmen with acts of separatist violence. The Malay Nation was born. Ibrahim Jaafar remained as the bloc's chairman while Abdul Razak Hamidi, the head of the bloc's largest party, the "Parti Muslimik Nasional" (National Muslim Party), became the country's "Supreme Representative" (Wakil Agung). The bloc was the only political bloc allowed in the country and it's components (member-parties) became the country's official parties. The Chairman (Pengerusi) is responsible for heading the ruling PN bloc and making national policies while the Supreme Representative is responsible for representing the Malay Nation and being the PN bloc's spokesperson.

In the years following independence, the Malay Nation integrated both the Andaman Islands and the Nicobar Islands in 1929. 1930 saw the Malay Nation purchase East Timor from the Portuguese. The royal family of Brunei opposed integration into the Malay Nation, resulting in the country being besieged by APN forces and eventually being absorbed into the Malay Nation around 1931. From 1932 to 1935, the Malay Nation waged war on neighbouring Thailand regarding Malay territory. The APN, having military equipment from both Britain and the Netherlands, were able to beat up the Thai military, forcing Thailand to cede it's southern part to the Malay Nation. The Kra Isthmus also gets annexed by the Malay Nation. Since these recent territorial grabs, the Malay Nation chooses both the US-controlled Philippines and the British-controlled Singapore as the next targets for it's territorial expansion.

Given the new political situation as shown in Europe, the Malay Nation is affiliationally standing between fascism and neutrality, having no tendencies of either becoming Allied or pledge allegiance to communism. Meanwhile, ethnic tensions and political opposition are emerging within the Malay Nation, especially violent clashes between the Chinese community and the Malay authorities due to the country's recent racist laws that affects both the Chinese and other ethnic minorities. Dissent among ethnic minorities is growing slowly and tensions between ideologies are occuring within the PN. Even so, genocide is on the brink of actually occuring within the Malay Nation as the dominant Malay community demands the country to be purged of all non-Malays, as well as disability, homosexuality, communism and other anti-government ideologies. Dissidents are suppressed by the notorious "Biro Keselamatan Nasional" (National Security Bureau) while various paramilitary party wings are merged into the PN-controlled "Angkatan Bersekutu Bangsa Melayu" (Allied Forces of the Malay Nation). Which path shall this Southeast Asian country choose?
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:00 am

Barapam wrote:
Andsed wrote:Simple why publicly the US is trying to stay neutral they need allies so they support democracies like Scotland against Fascists and Communist. The US also wants to keep Fascism and Communism from spreading.

Yeess! Poland might have a protector! Along with Scotland and France I presume.

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Postby Vulkata II » Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:10 am

Barapam wrote:
Andsed wrote:Simple why publicly the US is trying to stay neutral they need allies so they support democracies like Scotland against Fascists and Communist. The US also wants to keep Fascism and Communism from spreading.

Yeess! Poland might have a protector! Along with Scotland and France I presume.


If Germany invades Poland while... Things esculate. Let's just say you're not getting help in time.
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