Scramble for Africa [1880s-1910s][OOC][Sign-Up]

[The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile]

Standard Oil Company of New Jersey occupying Tanganyika? Good Ol' John D. Rockefeller, I like him because he was totally ruthless in his younger days, too. Think also the United Fruit Co. of the Banana Republic. If I can have him, I'm Standard Oil with the Boers, because ol' John D. sees Britain as 'just another to be removed on the road to progress, too.

I would much like to be funded by an American superrich/industrialist/fruit tycoon.

[Unified Republic of America]

Standard Oil Company of New Jersey occupying Tanganyika? Good Ol' John D. Rockefeller, I like him because he was totally ruthless in his younger days, too. Think also the United Fruit Co. of the Banana Republic. If I can have him, I'm Standard Oil with the Boers, because ol' John D. sees Britain as 'just another to be removed on the road to progress, too.

I would much like to be funded by an American superrich/industrialist/fruit tycoon.

Nah mate, let the Chinese handle it. We do it cheap

[The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile]

Nah mate, let the Chinese handle it. We do it cheap

The more investors, the better.

[Unified Republic of America]

Nah mate, let the Chinese handle it. We do it cheap

The more investors, the better.

The Wolf of Johannesburg

[Danceria]

Due to Franco-Prussian shenanigans, France and Germany will no doubt be at odds for African clay, after the previous war. France is eager to get the lion's share of the old Iberian colonies, but I don't want to overextend myself.

My goal is to keep Madagascar, Ivory Coast, and some overseas Asian possessions. I have a plan on how to counteract Britannia ruling the waves...

Speaking of your plan, my nation in the RP, the Republic of China, IC sent the Kingdom of France an offer of a defensive alliance against the British threat as part of the policy of “containment.” If you want it, you can reply to me about it in the thread.

Normally, I'd be all over that like a rash, but with Britain being OP and my next door neighbor, not to mention the rising power that is Germany, I need to secure my position in Europe before I execute Operation Dock 'em Rock 'Em.

I'd be fine with just Indochina and Indonesia, with a few free city ports for trade. Speaking of...

@Dude being standard oil, His Majesty may have a job or two for you...that, or call Carnegie.

The more investors, the better.

The Wolf of Johannesburg

...I can imagine an alt-history movie of this, a mix of the Godfather and Sleeping Dogs, where intrigue is served every day, plutocrats pay big...basically a corporatist cyberpunk novel set in the 19th century.
Somebody fund this shit.

[Unified Republic of America]

Speaking of your plan, my nation in the RP, the Republic of China, IC sent the Kingdom of France an offer of a defensive alliance against the British threat as part of the policy of “containment.” If you want it, you can reply to me about it in the thread.

Normally, I'd be all over that like a rash, but with Britain being OP and my next door neighbor, not to mention the rising power that is Germany, I need to secure my position in Europe before I execute Operation Dock 'em Rock 'Em.

I'd be fine with just Indochina and Indonesia, with a few free city ports for trade. Speaking of...

@Dude being standard oil, His Majesty may have a job or two for you...that, or call Carnegie.

The Wolf of Johannesburg

...I can imagine an alt-history movie of this, a mix of the Godfather and Sleeping Dogs, where intrigue is served every day, plutocrats pay big...basically a corporatist cyberpunk novel set in the 19th century.
Somebody fund this shit.

Someone ping Republic of Dixie to make Hollywood

[Danceria]

Hmm...on a scale of one to ten, how badly would you like me to have underwent a war that weakened the vast overseas dominions of the British Empire through dirty tactics? I want to knock him down a few pegs so I don't have to sweat bullets every time I look across the channel.

[The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile]

Hmm...on a scale of one to ten, how badly would you like me to have underwent a war that weakened the vast overseas dominions of the British Empire through dirty tactics? I want to knock him down a few pegs so I don't have to sweat bullets every time I look across the channel.

10, assuming that's the best side of the scale.

And before Shrive thinks everyone's ganging up on him, the OP-ness of Britain is real. Even in normal history it had (arguably) the best army and navy and had basically achieved global hegemony by this point.

[Unified Republic of America]

Hmm...on a scale of one to ten, how badly would you like me to have underwent a war that weakened the vast overseas dominions of the British Empire through dirty tactics? I want to knock him down a few pegs so I don't have to sweat bullets every time I look across the channel.

10, assuming that's the best side of the scale.

And before Shrive thinks everyone's ganging up on him, the OP-ness of Britain is real. Even in normal history it had (arguably) the best army and navy and had basically achieved global hegemony by this point.

Yeah, I won’t be surprised if Peking gets sieged by the China Squadron by tomorrow

Hmm...on a scale of one to ten, how badly would you like me to have underwent a war that weakened the vast overseas dominions of the British Empire through dirty tactics? I want to knock him down a few pegs so I don't have to sweat bullets every time I look across the channel.

7; I would prefer Britain to be weakened to a point defeating them in a phyrric war is plausible but not enough to weaken Britain to the point they aren’t considered a threat

[Danceria]

10, assuming that's the best side of the scale.

And before Shrive thinks everyone's ganging up on him, the OP-ness of Britain is real. Even in normal history it had (arguably) the best army and navy and had basically achieved global hegemony by this point.

Yeah, I won’t be surprised if Peking gets sieged by the China Squadron by tomorrow

Hmm...on a scale of one to ten, how badly would you like me to have underwent a war that weakened the vast overseas dominions of the British Empire through dirty tactics? I want to knock him down a few pegs so I don't have to sweat bullets every time I look across the channel.

7; I would prefer Britain to be weakened to a point defeating them in a phyrric war is plausible but not enough to weaken Britain to the point they aren’t considered a threat

Actually, I kind of did a phyrric idea for Britain, no small amount of out-thinking the British.

The long and short of it is this, France and the then Imperial China got together with some Southeast Asian Pirates to kick the Brits around Malaysia for a spell. Emphasizing the use of small, coordinated squadrons of local guerillas and pirates, supplied by Chinese and French tacticians and guns, the French realized that any battle the navy or army got into would result in a British victory. So how do we get them to fight each other? The answer was simple. Britannia ruled the waves, Francia ruled the docks. Deprive the enemy of a local harbor to resupply, and win through attrition. Cause further discontent by pulling a Hannibal Barca on them: "That's a nice commander you got there. Would be a shame if he got a series of bloodless victories to make you guys think we struck a deal with him/force him to bomb the harbors in order to get rid of us." as nationalism played a huge part in the Franco-Lotharian war, the French also prioritized causing rifts between the local Indian, Austrslian and Boer forces, pitting them more against each other and seeding dissent at home.

Britain still "technically" won and owns parts of Indonesia and Thailand...but at the cost of hopefully overextending itself.

TL;DR: Did a literal Vietnam and Gallipoli on Britain, blamed the Qing govt (which I hope can be one if the reasons why China is a Republic), and walked away being buddies with the Indochinese and the knowledge that Britain isn't invincible, securing the recently re-restored monarchy with a military victory France so desperately needed after the Franco-Prussian War.

[Danceria]

*Lotharia coolly navigates the waters, calculating the perfect opportunity*

*France casually steals all of the trade routes while everyone is busy finding resources, preventing them from shipping said resources*
All according to keikaku*

*Tranalator's note: Keikaku means "unnecessarily convoluted scheme" in French

Gotta love the irony of France leading a coalition against Britain, when during Napoleon's time, they lead seven of them against France.

[Unified Republic of America]

Yeah, I won’t be surprised if Peking gets sieged by the China Squadron by tomorrow



7; I would prefer Britain to be weakened to a point defeating them in a phyrric war is plausible but not enough to weaken Britain to the point they aren’t considered a threat

Actually, I kind of did a phyrric idea for Britain, no small amount of out-thinking the British.

The long and short of it is this, France and the then Imperial China got together with some Southeast Asian Pirates to kick the Brits around Malaysia for a spell. Emphasizing the use of small, coordinated squadrons of local guerillas and pirates, supplied by Chinese and French tacticians and guns, the French realized that any battle the navy or army got into would result in a British victory. So how do we get them to fight each other? The answer was simple. Britannia ruled the waves, Francia ruled the docks. Deprive the enemy of a local harbor to resupply, and win through attrition. Cause further discontent by pulling a Hannibal Barca on them: "That's a nice commander you got there. Would be a shame if he got a series of bloodless victories to make you guys think we struck a deal with him/force him to bomb the harbors in order to get rid of us." as nationalism played a huge part in the Franco-Lotharian war, the French also prioritized causing rifts between the local Indian, Austrslian and Boer forces, pitting them more against each other and seeding dissent at home.

Britain still "technically" won and owns parts of Indonesia and Thailand...but at the cost of hopefully overextending itself.

TL;DR: Did a literal Vietnam and Gallipoli on Britain, blamed the Qing govt (which I hope can be one if the reasons why China is a Republic), and walked away being buddies with the Indochinese and the knowledge that Britain isn't invincible, securing the recently re-restored monarchy with a military victory France so desperately needed after the Franco-Prussian War.

Ye, it would be Qing China at the time; internal dissent and demand for reform would’ve toppled the emperor and put a Republic in power

[The Philippine Islands of Luzviminda]

I will be gone for a day so good luck

[Crimetopolis]

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Colonizer ( Foreign Nation )

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Colonizer :  John  D.  Rockefeller
Nation Name:  Standard   Oil  Republic
Real Life Country(Location): in  the  telegram  agreed  zone  adjacent  the Boer  Republic.
Economic System:Capitalism
Ideology: Ruthless  Capitalism
Form of Government:  Corporate Police  State
Population:  1.5  million  whites,  3  million natives.
Military Power: Standard Oil has imported  German advisors  They  already have  and  twenty  torpedo  ship navy.  Every white  home has  a  rack of  1873  Winchester  rifles and  every  white  person  has  a  Colt  1878 double  action  .44-40  revolver
Size of Economy:  Vast  OIl,  trading,  railroads,  arms  manufacturing, agriculture,  machine  shops
Economic Stability:  Guaranteed
Ally  of  the  Boer Republic
Other:

I know the Mauser pistol and Maxim gun aren't out yet. So I'm going 1881 We're allied to the Boers and sending them arms and machinery.

African ( Tribe,Nation,Milita etc....)

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List of Players and Claims

Shrive - British Empire - Holy British Empire
The New Canadian Militia - US and Canada
Knessniet - The Netherlands, Belgium (Flanders)
Deutschess Kaiserreich - Germany
The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile - North-Eastern South Africa - The Boer Confederation
Tinhampton/The Free Cape Territories - Western African Cape - The Free Cape Territories
Draos - Southern US - Republic of Dixie
Spain-Portugal - Spain and Portugal - Iberian Union
Seba Kemet - Egypt - Kemet
Akeshistan - All of Centeral Asia ( Kaz, Tajiki etc..)
Austro-Hungarion - Austria and Hunguary (Shocking...!)
The Philippine Islands of Luzviminda - Sardinia and Corsica - United Islands of Sardinia and Corsica\
Dorkaria/Eternal Lotharia - Czechia Switz Denmark - Lotharia
Imperium of the huron - anatolia Bulgaria, Greece, Syria, Israel,Arabia, Iraq, Lebanon,Libya - Ottoman Empire[/quote]

[Unified Republic of America]

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Colonizer ( Foreign Nation )

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Colonizer :  John  D.  Rockefeller
Nation Name:  Standard   Oil  Republic
Real Life Country(Location): Tanganyika
Economic System:Capitalism
Ideology: Ruthless  Capitalism
Form of Government:  Corporate Police  State
Population:  1.5  million  whites,  3  million natives.
Military Power: Standard Oil has imported  German advisors  They  already have  and  twenty  torpedo  ship navy.  Every white  home has  a  rack of  1873  Winchester  rifles and  every  white  person  has  a  Colt  1870  .44-40  revolver
Size of Economy:  Vast  OIl,  trading,  railroads,  arms  manufacturing, agriculture,  machine  shops
Economic Stability:  Guaranteed
Other:

I know the Mauser pistol and Maxim gun aren't out yet. So I'm going 1881 We're allied to the Boers and sending them arms and machinery.

African ( Tribe,Nation,Milita etc....)

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List of Players and Claims

Shrive - British Empire - Holy British Empire
The New Canadian Militia - US and Canada
Knessniet - The Netherlands, Belgium (Flanders)
Deutschess Kaiserreich - Germany
The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile - North-Eastern South Africa - The Boer Confederation
Tinhampton/The Free Cape Territories - Western African Cape - The Free Cape Territories
Draos - Southern US - Republic of Dixie
Spain-Portugal - Spain and Portugal - Iberian Union
Seba Kemet - Egypt - Kemet
Akeshistan - All of Centeral Asia ( Kaz, Tajiki etc..)
Austro-Hungarion - Austria and Hunguary (Shocking...!)
The Philippine Islands of Luzviminda - Sardinia and Corsica - United Islands of Sardinia and Corsica\
Dorkaria/Eternal Lotharia - Czechia Switz Denmark - Lotharia
Imperium of the huron - anatolia Bulgaria, Greece, Syria, Israel,Arabia, Iraq, Lebanon,Libya - Ottoman Empire

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Actually, the Republic of China has already set up a colony in Tanzania :/, might want to try your luck again in west Africa

[Indochinoise]

Tosia can you add me on the list of nations.

[Tosia]

Nation Name: United Provinces of Rio De La Plata
Real Life Country(Location): Argentina Paraguay and Uruguay
Economic System: Capitalist
Ideology: Peronism & Capitalism
Form of Government: Full Presidental representative democratic republic
Population: 2.569 Million
Military Power: Decently Good
Size of Economy:
Economic Stability: Pretty Stable
Other:

Approved! Lets see how a south American nations fairs against the europeans,asians and Dixie

[Tosia]

I like how Lotharia is making all these intimdating remarks yet they have no claims whatsoever in Africa compared to the big superpowers like China, Austro-Hungary or the Ottomans (Maybe Knessniet, Dixie,Japan or Iberia as rising powers? Kemet has so far done nothing.) Really, Lotharia has worse a claim than the HBE, even then the HBE claimed something......

[Yokotari]

Nation Name: The Kingdom of Mongo
Real Life Country: Democratic Republic of Congo (occupy about the center of what would be the real life country)
Economic System: Traditional (Economy) | Taxes are collected, though their value is usually estimated via weight and rarity
Ideology: Monarchism | Tribalism
Form of Government: Absolute Monarchy | The Kingdom of Mongo is controlled by a single King who rules with absolute authority. Below the King are the Nobility, who tend to be warriors coming from loyal families. These families pledge support and allegiance to the crown and follow the will of the King without question. Effectively there are strict social castes that people have a hard time moving up, however this has proven to be effective for the nation as a whole.
Population: 2.18 Million
Military Power: Total amount of men involved in the Military (130,800)
- 1,308 Royal Guards | The Royal Guards are the most elite unit within the Kingdom of Mongo. They are chosen from both the Warriors and the Nobility, those who are deemed either incredibly talented, powerful, fast, loyal or intelligent. Oftentimes they are chosen as children after displaying the necessary characteristics of a potential Guardsman. They are indoctrinated regardless of age and will spend their entire lives preparing and training to protect the King. They are taught that their King is virtually a God, they will lay down their lives for him in suicidal charges if it is asked. They are not allowed to have families or connections outside of the Royal Guard, however they may still have children via concubines or otherwise. They are paid the most and given the best equipment, but sacrifice their freedom for it. Royal Guardmen who are cast out of the Guard will quickly find themselves among the Cattlemen, that is as Cannon-Fodder. After about the age of 45, a Guardsmen is lowered to the rank of Noble, however this is seen as highly honorable since they have completed many years of loyal service. They will serve as a Noble for another five years and can then fully retire from Military Service.
- 3,924 Noble Warriors | The Nobility are made up of talented or professional Warriors hailing from several distinct clans, which are favored by the King for their Military Prowess. They own land throughout the Kingdom and are responsible for the collection of taxes and for repressing potential revolts. When the King calls them to service they make up the second Elite group of soldiers and can be expected to fight viciously during any battle. They are expected to pay for their own equipment and supplies however this is usually acceptable. Generally they have varied equipment, some even have firearms from Europeans. One is no longer considered a Noble after the age of 50. After they reach this age they are retired and will pass on control of their land and property to their sons or relatives.
- 45,780 Warriors | Warriors are a step up from Commoners. They make up both the police force and the standard military troops for the Kingdom of Mongo. Being selected as a Warrior is considered a good thing within many villages and towns and cities. They receive small but adequate pay and also double as tax collectors. They owe their allegiance firstly to the King and secondly to the Noble who is employing them. Warriors can be expected to give a decent effort but can still lose heart and run if the situation is deemed desperate. There are about 11 Warriors for every Noble.
- 53,628 Cattlemen | Cattlemen are effectively levies, if one compared them to the average man on a Medieval Battlefield. They can be raised at will and are often used to quell uprisings and such, or be used as Cannon-Fodder against enemies. They do not receive pay unless they are raised to fight, in which case they are given little more than what is required to live. They are compensated for this by the right to pillage a battlefield following a fight. Warriors and above are not allowed to do this, except to receive items of considerable wealth. The Cattlemen can keep whatever they pillage, within reason. They cannot be expected to hold out for long against a determined enemy, they are in it for the glory and the loot, that is all.
Size of Economy: Varies, there is enough activity that the Kingdom is wealthy, at least by African Kingdom standards. They frequently trade with tribes to the south and north.
Economic Stability: Strong, relative to other African Kingdoms.
Other: Alternate Reality, effectively a single Mongo tribe was capable of uniting all its nearby Kingdoms around the year 1779. They established a more centralized Kingdom and have managed it well thus far.

[Knessniet]

Could you edit the claims map? I am expanding into Ethiopia, and have fully colonized Somalia and Djibouti.

[Vultuca]

Nation Name: United Provinces of Rio De La Plata
Real Life Country(Location): Argentina Paraguay and Uruguay
Economic System: Capitalist
Ideology: Peronism & Capitalism
Form of Government: Full Presidental representative democratic republic
Population: 2.569 Million
Military Power: Decently Good
Size of Economy:
Economic Stability: Pretty Stable
Other:

Approved! Lets see how a south American nations fairs against the europeans,asians and Dixie

Aye thanks!

Viva the Motherland!

[Draos]

has anyone actually heard from Canada since he applied?

[Unified Republic of America]

Can someone RP as the Empire of Japan since Neo Galactic Empire is dropping out?

[Robosia]

Could I maybe change my population? I think I made it a little to low.

[Crimetopolis]

Can I have Mozambique?