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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Sat Aug 18, 2018 10:13 am

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Player Character: Lord Reaver Warwyck III
Title: Lord Reaver of the Barren Coast,
Full Name: Warwyck Crossman
Age: 27
Appearance: A tall man, gigantic even, topping off at 7 feet tall, and muscular as well. Has a long beard reaching his collarbone, and has even longer hair reaching past his neck, both are colored jet black. Has pale sky blue eyes.
Height and Weight: 7’1”, 187 pounds
Religion: Sea Gods
Culture: Nors(debatable)
Biography: To know Warwyck, we must know the history of his family. Way back when the West Entrusil Empire fell, foreign ships bearing a jet black cross on their sails were spotted of the barren coastlands of the south(near Blackedge), and when the drumming of war drums was heard, it was known, these people, whoever they were, were here to stay, and they would enforce that in a bit. Longships landed on a muddy beach on the usually barren coasts, and when an army came to meet them, they were slaughtered to a man, and the foreigners from the sea entered the town and slaughtered all those in it, eventually, their conquest reached the entire coast, with the least bastion of resistance in Dryriver Valley being assaulted and executed to the last man.

These sea people carved out an empire of raiders, and it was found out they worshipped gods of the seas, and in reverence to them, and in obedience, they raided the coastlines of the chaos embroiled lands for centuries, they also claimed to be of Nors descent. They stayed in power, until the rise of the Galeacians, who invaded them and set fire to their ships, and on that day, the Sea Emperors of Neuflandr bowed, and became lowly dukes, and first of them was Oswyck “the Emperor-who-Bowed” Crossman.

We continue onwards through time, to the birth of Warwyck to Lord Reaver Warwyck II, mocked by many as “Manydaughter”, due to his massive libido being unable to produce one son, until Warwyck’s birth of course. He quickly was taught to be a worthy successor, trained in sword and axe when he was able to walk, told to be as fluent as can be when he was able to talk, and teached by many to be a brilliant strategist, in all of these, he exceeded, perfecting them. He was granted Barren Beach as a way of training him in rulership when he came of age, and he excelled again, building a vibrant trader’s town in that barren coastland, and when his father died, he sought to improve his new domain.

Now, he is a just and able ruler,
Notable Relationships: None, who would want to consort with foreign rapists?
Professional Skills: Well-trained swordsman, can hold his own in a fight, whether it be 1v1 or in battle. Administrator and architect, likes to apply both in wars, to great effect. Mediocre schemer, the fool wants to kill people, but has bad wording and luck, plus nobody likes an infidel.
Strengths: Good commander, highly aggressive on the field, but also highly random, preference for leading from behind and on the flanks. Builder, likes to make towns and castles, and siege equipment.
Weaknesses: A foreigner with a foreign religion exclusive only to his domains, good luck doing any conquest, and even more luck in administering those conquests.
Goal: Restart the raiding tradition, become emperors once more, and sow anarchy in the empire.
Owned Counties: 67, 68, 69, 70, 71
70, County of Seastone Hall
67, County of Barren Beach
68, County of Deadtree
69, County of the Grays
71, County of Dryriver Valley
County Color: Red
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Accepted. But the counties are a little problematic, I made a post somewhere above, or a page back discussing that, but your in other than the territory being contested.
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Postby Benuty » Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:58 pm

The Dissenter Church is for all intents, and purposes a legally sanctioned entity (by treaty) which stands in protest against the papacy and the heavily institutionalized form the church is in.

Origins
The Lamist Confederacy was always at odds with the realm due to them being incredibly foreign in nature, and even when it was finally accepting of the faith it took some time. Papal representatives could never truly solidify control in the area due to different cultural perceptions of doctrine, and theology. So it came as no surprise when it 400 the branch of the faith present in the Confederacy simply seceded. The Papacy at first merely treated it as a temporary schism that could be resolved, but as the decades dragged on it never was resolved.

Council of 429 (429)

The first dissent came when a Papal Legate organized the council of 429 in order to try, and mend relations with the Lamist branch only for the attempt to worsen relations, and cause the leaders there to denounce the papacy entirely.

Edict of Toleration (437)

In response to the inquisition, and suppression of native beliefs the leaders of the faith in the Lamist Confederacy issued the edict of toleration welcoming faiths considered "pagan" and ending any oppression against the native faiths of the realm. This was done in part due to the brutality of the campaigns shocking the faithful here, and a belief that violence of such manner corrupts the faith.

Lollan's Declaration (445)
Lollan the Sage issued a decree giving sanction, and funding to those who sought to make the holy scripture available in all tongues of man rather than just one. He also decreed that lessons were to be given so that everyone all over the Confederacy could afford to read the scriptures. The Declaration also included a list of rebuttals against established doctrine, and ultimately is believed to have caused the first dissenters war.

First War (446-468)
The Declaration incited rebellions by dissenters within the realm, and the king gave money, and men to Peter von Richter to launch an expedition and reign in the dissenter Lamists. While initially, things were in his favor rebellion, and other matters resulted in a declaration of a ceasefire. Papal legates attempted to "restore order" over the conquered area which was 25% of the Confederacy but failed miserably. Peter died a bitter man just ten years later.

Treaty of Laierpo (479)
Hermann von Richter succeeded as Governor and ultimately broke through the capital lines. While visiting the majestic white mountains temple in the hearthland's capital of Laierpo he had a revelation. Dressed in white, unarmed, and with only a few guards he walked barefoot to the provisional capital and converted to the dissenters before the priests themselves. Legend says they were, hocked to say the least, and due to the death of the Pada the fate of the Confederacy was in question.

Independent Governorate (479-494)
Having a dissenter operate in the name of the realm proved incredibly controversial, but the second (480-484), and third wars (489-493) left the realm weak. Instead, the third option of compromise was made to suit everyone involved.

A Royal Vassal State (494)

The realm brought the Lamists into the fold as a "territory" with a high level of autonomy as expected of a new vassal state. In return, the realm would respect the legitimacy of the dissenter church, and the papacy would not be allowed to operate in those areas under normal circumstances. However, this meant all dissenters outside of lamist territories had to leave, but thankfully were given peaceful passage to these lands.

A New Church (495-present)

The Dissenter's Proclamation

1] Rejection of Papal Authority and Institution
* The Popes clearly represent their own authority even if virtuous individuals due to the schemes, and machinations of others. Papal authority focuses not on matters of faith, but temporal power, and is scripturally invalid. The institution set up by the Papacy is proof enough of this, and will be brought down not by the Dissenters, but by God when he begins the "era of self-correction". A time when souls will realize the truth that the darkness has blinded many in the world, and they will be freed.

2] Rejection of Person, and Object Veneration

Relics and pilgrimages in the minds of dissenters are useless since prayer, and periods of reflection could serve a much better purpose. People could also spend time helping the poor, the sick, and others in their communities rather than wasting money on extravagant journeys to visit rotten bones, and partake in idolatry. While stained glass and statues are acceptable they are not to be used in reverence, but merely as an expression of one's devotions. Actions rather than beliefs hold more weight with the dissenters than anything else.

3] A simplified priesthood

*The faithful choose their local priests (twelve)with a simple vote of yay or nay. The priests choose via a vote of the majority who to send to regional representation. The regional representatives vote amongst themselves yearly who to send to the Grand Council of the Faith. After serving the yearly term the former council member starts back all the way at the bottom and has to work their way up again.

*The faithful only use laying on of hands, and silent prayer to bring in a person as a member of the priesthood. The priesthood should not be obscenely wealthy, and the poor, and suffering should not be ignored. Priests can be male or female, but also they are allowed to marry, and have families. The priesthood is a strictly religious matter, and no one goes into it expecting political power at all.

4] Universal "onehood"
* The dissenters reject the trinity claiming it splits apart the oneness of God into three artificial beings. Phrases such as "God is one, and God is all" are often used to reinforce this viewpoint. They believe a being as powerful as God would only be weakened by the existence of the trinity.

5] Light versus Dark

*They believe the oneness of God is responsible for the existence of light, and God represents the natural world as everything carries within it a piece of God due to his creation of souls. Darkness represents the great "evil" of non-existence, and the absence of God so "supernatural" elements of the faith are often viewed with suspicion. In part because it implies a power at work that doesn't represent the natural order, and therefore doesn't represent God. The "dark" represents an "evil" that is closely related to the light of God because it has rejected it in rebellion. The fallen nature of man, and ultimately death is all due to the darkness trying to get mankind to emulate its foolishness.

5] The Soul and Death

The soul is eternal, undestroyable, and comprises every bit of a person so as it will live beyond the bodies "death". Death is a curse by the darkness to inflict non-existence upon humanity, and bring it over to the same suffering it endures. Evil actions lead to a greater chance of a soul being brought over to the darkness, but the dissenters do not believe this is eternal. The darkness will ultimately fail as it cannot break souls, and the souls will escape their self-imposed hells, and return to the fold of the light. "Death" is a curse that is escaped repeatedly by God bringing the soul back to life through multiple forms.

One day the darkness will be defeated, and death will end bringing an end to the misery, and suffering it causes. Prayers for the dead are discouraged since the focus on giving power to the act, and process. Instead, prayers against death are encouraged in their place.

6] Rejection of Violence and the Virtues
War and other such matters are considered abhorrent to the dissenters, and as such anyone who takes a life is labeled a "codebreaker". Codebreakers are not cast out but are perhaps the only members of the faith to be even considered for use as soldiers. They, of course, are prevented from having children since they have to take oaths to serve the faith in its extreme times thus putting them usually away until needed. Dissenters do not any meat outside of fish leading them to have a diet primarily of seafood, grains, vegetables, fruits, nuts, and other things. There are several virtues which are appreciated by the dissenters, but they believe it all links back to kindness, and how people treat their fellow human beings.

Humans are expected to faithful to their partners, but both partners view marriage as an equal opportunity relationship which focuses just as much on love as it does family. People are to respect their elders, but elders must also understand that youth can be right in some things. The youth are allowed a chance to be young, and crazy for they will become sensible once they get older.

7] Quietness
Quiet prayers, silent contemplations, and interior meditation is believed to bring someone as close to "innocence" as possible, and reconciliation with the pre-fallen state of mankind. This is a contrast to the much louder, vocal, and public praying style of the mainstream. In quiet one will find the power to confess your sins before God, and ultimately God will forgive you not some priest. This quietness can also extend to the use of plain dress and simple living.

8] The Feast of the Faithful

All Faithful come together during worship and eat to honor the great bounty God has provided for them. This has replaced the private intimate rituals of the mainstream faith with just as intimate, but public rituals.


Present Goals

1] Survival of the church by ensuring the treaty is upheld, and the papacy is unable to mount an offensive against it.

2] Continually adding in the ideas of dissenter refugees in order to present a united front against the papal machinations.

3] Establish a new treaty recognizing the rights of dissenters to practice outside of the Lamist Territories as well.
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Quick Question: Are dragons real? Because that could make this very Game of Thrones-y, and I love it!
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Postby Kelmet » Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:12 pm

So how would house Monroe gain it's rightful lands of the Faozoric Heritics of the Dutchy of D'liscay.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:27 pm

Auphelia wrote:Quick Question: Are dragons real? Because that could make this very Game of Thrones-y, and I love it!

shhh, the none believers shall not know!

In all seriousness yes, but we have yet to know if they are still alive.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:34 pm

Kelmet wrote:So how would house Monroe gain it's rightful lands of the Faozoric Heritics of the Dutchy of D'liscay.

Hmm, if I recall D'Liscay was runned by Asyan Lutholics who had escaped the Faozoric Invasion. Ill have to check after work.
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Postby Auphelia » Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:44 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:shhh, the none believers shall not know!

In all seriousness yes, but we have yet to know if they are still alive.


Are they actually around, is it a bunch of dormant nests, or are they caged by the king somewhere underground? Because I feel like someone would see a giant lizard scuttling or flying about.
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Postby The Frozen Forest » Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:45 pm

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Accepted, been awhile hasn't it Forest?

I think the last time we Rped together was..i wanna say Vampire Ascendancy? Its definitely been awhile. I couldn't turn down Broken Crown though :p

@Benuty | If The Dissenters Church happened to spread north, i imagine that Oliver would find it quite interesting -hint- -hint-
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:52 pm

Auphelia wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:shhh, the none believers shall not know!

In all seriousness yes, but we have yet to know if they are still alive.


Are they actually around, is it a bunch of dormant nests, or are they caged by the king somewhere underground? Because I feel like someone would see a giant lizard scuttling or flying about.

Native to the Eastlands (your chars homelands if I recall), yet rumors from the east about them stopped about a hundred years ago. Little known about dragon eggs, or dragons in general, so unlikely a case of controlled breeding. Maybe a ancient galeic king trapped one in the deepest dungeons where none tread anymore, but for the most part dragons are left in legends.
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Postby Auphelia » Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:58 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:Native to the Eastlands (your chars homelands if I recall), yet rumors from the east about them stopped about a hundred years ago. Little known about dragon eggs, or dragons in general, so unlikely a case of controlled breeding. Maybe a ancient galeic king trapped one in the deepest dungeons where none tread anymore, but for the most part dragons are left in legends.


Oh well . . . :unsure:

I suppose there's little chance of a few nests being left high in the frozen mountains, perhaps uncovered by a wily merchant who will arrange an auction of the frozen eggs for people from across the land?

Eh? Eh? :)

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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:58 pm

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Holy Tedalonia wrote:Snip
Accepted, been awhile hasn't it Forest?

I think the last time we Rped together was..i wanna say Vampire Ascendancy? Its definitely been awhile. I couldn't turn down Broken Crown though :p

@Benuty | If The Dissenters Church happened to spread north, i imagine that Oliver would find it quite interesting -hint- -hint-

Yeah, it has been quite awhile. That was before RL hit me hard and threw my entire schedule of from the start of 2018 to the end of summer. In between I took peeks at NS, but couldnt get invested into anything. I really wished that RP couldve taken off. The world sounded so interesting.

Anyways thanks for joining this RP. Im really glad to have you aboard.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Sat Aug 18, 2018 3:51 pm

Auphelia wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Native to the Eastlands (your chars homelands if I recall), yet rumors from the east about them stopped about a hundred years ago. Little known about dragon eggs, or dragons in general, so unlikely a case of controlled breeding. Maybe a ancient galeic king trapped one in the deepest dungeons where none tread anymore, but for the most part dragons are left in legends.


Oh well . . . :unsure:

I suppose there's little chance of a few nests being left high in the frozen mountains, perhaps uncovered by a wily merchant who will arrange an auction of the frozen eggs for people from across the land?

Eh? Eh? :)

*wink*

*nudge*

Nay, while the Eastern Nomads may be traders constant wars with the Entrusil Empire prevent Nomads from accessing the western world due to misunderstandings and identification issues.

He however if you could brave the eastern lands in search of desired dragon eggs you can. After all your ancestors were dragon riders once, before the dragons decline and eventual disappearance.
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Postby Auphelia » Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:17 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:Nay, while the Eastern Nomads may be traders constant wars with the Entrusil Empire prevent Nomads from accessing the western world due to misunderstandings and identification issues.

He however if you could brave the eastern lands in search of desired dragon eggs you can. After all your ancestors were dragon riders once, before the dragons decline and eventual disappearance.


I know we can't get to the Eastern Lands (my poor 20,000 soldiers . . . :( ), but you said that the Ereco the Destroyer was rumoured to have ridden a dragon? And he went deep into Galeacian territory? Perhaps there are some eggs that were left behind, but alas, they cannot be hatched without extreme heat, a feat near impossible without a living dragon . . . or coal . . . :twisted:
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:46 pm

Auphelia wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Nay, while the Eastern Nomads may be traders constant wars with the Entrusil Empire prevent Nomads from accessing the western world due to misunderstandings and identification issues.

He however if you could brave the eastern lands in search of desired dragon eggs you can. After all your ancestors were dragon riders once, before the dragons decline and eventual disappearance.


I know we can't get to the Eastern Lands (my poor 20,000 soldiers . . . :( ), but you said that the Ereco the Destroyer was rumoured to have ridden a dragon? And he went deep into Galeacian territory? Perhaps there are some eggs that were left behind, but alas, they cannot be hatched without extreme heat, a feat near impossible without a living dragon . . . or coal . . . :twisted:

Hmmm, then the eggs would probably lay somewhere in the alpines of Fenbardy or kept by survivors of his nomadic clan. Either way youll have to gather info via the Gods if they favor you, or other sources of info.
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Postby Auphelia » Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:49 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:Hmmm, then the eggs would probably lay somewhere in the alpines of Fenbardy or kept by survivors of his nomadic clan. Either way youll have to gather info via the Gods if they favor you, or other sources of info.


Wait. Why would they be in Fenbardy? Didn't he lay waste to Galeacia?

And the survivors/left behind of his clan live in Wyster.

I'm confused now.

And the gods are real!?!? Are you the gods here!?

Which religion is the true one!?

Oof.
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Postby Benuty » Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:55 pm

Speaking of gods, and other such things the Dissenters take an approach that life itself is God, and death is a curse brought down by a rebellious entity. They don't believe in an afterlife instead of placing their faith in continual rebirth into life until God defeats the darkness, ends death, and brings about paradise. So their funerals focus on defeating death and mourning those "lost" to the act of the curse. Evil actions, however, can temporarily delay a souls rebirth into the world by causing them to make their own "hell" over regret of their actions.
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Postby Kelmet » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:05 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
Kelmet wrote:So how would house Monroe gain it's rightful lands of the Faozoric Heritics of the Dutchy of D'liscay.

Hmm, if I recall D'Liscay was runned by Asyan Lutholics who had escaped the Faozoric Invasion. Ill have to check after work.

They totally are, I was just hoping my steward and spymaster would be able to stir the pot in my quest for make rayhaven a grand dutchy.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:11 pm

Auphelia wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Hmmm, then the eggs would probably lay somewhere in the alpines of Fenbardy or kept by survivors of his nomadic clan. Either way youll have to gather info via the Gods if they favor you, or other sources of info.


Wait. Why would they be in Fenbardy? Didn't he lay waste to Galeacia?

And the survivors/left behind of his clan live in Wyster.

I'm confused now.

And the gods are real!?!? Are you the gods here!?

Which religion is the true one!?

Oof.

Layed waste to Galeacia, but decided to head south to lay waste to Fenbardy. Died on the journey to the holy city of lutholicism.

The gods a person can decidr to worship may or may not exist. Most have a powerful being and if not any being (if powerful/influential) enough can masquerade as a god. Even in history powerful and or influential people have claimed to be or the son of god. The only real difference is this worlds a little more tilted to the magical side allowing people to use "holy acts" more effectively. Granted some faiths may not believe in a god, but a powerful spirit could masqurade as the spiritual embodiment of the religions founder or great philosopher.

Benuty wrote:Speaking of gods, and other such things the Dissenters take an approach that life itself is God, and death is a curse brought down by a rebellious entity. They don't believe in an afterlife instead of placing their faith in continual rebirth into life until God defeats the darkness, ends death, and brings about paradise. So their funerals focus on defeating death and mourning those "lost" to the act of the curse. Evil actions, however, can temporarily delay a souls rebirth into the world by causing them to make their own "hell" over regret of their actions.

Hmm, sounds a lot like Buddhism... sort of with a christian twist.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:14 pm

Kelmet wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Hmm, if I recall D'Liscay was runned by Asyan Lutholics who had escaped the Faozoric Invasion. Ill have to check after work.

They totally are, I was just hoping my steward and spymaster would be able to stir the pot in my quest for make rayhaven a grand dutchy.

Hmm, sounds plausible enough. You could certainly try.
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Postby Benuty » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:19 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
Auphelia wrote:
Wait. Why would they be in Fenbardy? Didn't he lay waste to Galeacia?

And the survivors/left behind of his clan live in Wyster.

I'm confused now.

And the gods are real!?!? Are you the gods here!?

Which religion is the true one!?

Oof.

Layed waste to Galeacia, but decided to head south to lay waste to Fenbardy. Died on the journey to the holy city of lutholicism.

The gods a person can decidr to worship may or may not exist. Most have a powerful being and if not any being (if powerful/influential) enough can masquerade as a god. Even in history powerful and or influential people have claimed to be or the son of god. The only real difference is this worlds a little more tilted to the magical side allowing people to use "holy acts" more effectively. Granted some faiths may not believe in a god, but a powerful spirit could masqurade as the spiritual embodiment of the religions founder or great philosopher.

Benuty wrote:Speaking of gods, and other such things the Dissenters take an approach that life itself is God, and death is a curse brought down by a rebellious entity. They don't believe in an afterlife instead of placing their faith in continual rebirth into life until God defeats the darkness, ends death, and brings about paradise. So their funerals focus on defeating death and mourning those "lost" to the act of the curse. Evil actions, however, can temporarily delay a souls rebirth into the world by causing them to make their own "hell" over regret of their actions.

Hmm, sounds a lot like Buddhism... sort of with a christian twist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_mortalism

Its a bit of a twist on mortalism since the soul is immortal, but there naturally is no afterlife as we understand it.
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Kelmet wrote:They totally are, I was just hoping my steward and spymaster would be able to stir the pot in my quest for make rayhaven a grand dutchy.

Hmm, sounds plausible enough. You could certainly try.

I should Probobly go for county 60 I be live as well, have a nice clean border
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Postby Benuty » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:24 pm

For all intents, and purposes the Dissenters are probably going to focus on the expansion of their rights, and perhaps the "royal confederacy" model I mentioned in the application. A model where ducal, and count level rulers still hold fealty to the king, but also have greatly expanded rights. The kicker, of course, is that this will not be your standard holy roman empire type scenario since the "Governor" wants to introduce democratic elements into the mix as well.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:35 pm

Benuty wrote:For all intents, and purposes the Dissenters are probably going to focus on the expansion of their rights, and perhaps the "royal confederacy" model I mentioned in the application. A model where ducal, and count level rulers still hold fealty to the king, but also have greatly expanded rights. The kicker, of course, is that this will not be your standard holy roman empire type scenario since the "Governor" wants to introduce democratic elements into the mix as well.

So in your chars ideal world, elected king and elected dukes and counts?

Like HRE but the dukes and counts are also elected?
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Kelmet wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Hmm, sounds plausible enough. You could certainly try.

I should Probobly go for county 60 I be live as well, have a nice clean border

Even a knight in shiny armor has to play dirty for the greater good of man. Go get em! :p
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Kelmet wrote:I should Probobly go for county 60 I be live as well, have a nice clean border

Even a knight in shiny armor has to play dirty for the greater good of man. Go get em! :p

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