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Postby Nations United for Conquest » Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:11 pm

Reverend Norv wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:I will have a lot of time on my hands soon, so I was thinking about doing an RP. This seems like the perfect opportunity to revive this, with a new coat of varnish. I'll keep you all updated.


I would absolutely be game for this if you revive it.


I second such a statement
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Postby Rodez » Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:44 pm

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:I will have a lot of time on my hands soon, so I was thinking about doing an RP. This seems like the perfect opportunity to revive this, with a new coat of varnish. I'll keep you all updated.

Can’t wait!
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:47 am

Alright, what I am thinking of now is the early industrial era, the flaring up of national identities within the empire and the subsequent struggles that follows from that.

Interestingly, during the rise of nationalism, various peoples began to adopt one or more of the Canon deities as 'their God', with a capital G, which is of course heresy of the highest order. This is why, in Dallic history, the rise of nationalism was always accompanied with an increase in religious tension as well. That might be very interesting!
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Postby The Batavia » Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:27 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Alright, what I am thinking of now is the early industrial era, the flaring up of national identities within the empire and the subsequent struggles that follows from that.

Interestingly, during the rise of nationalism, various peoples began to adopt one or more of the Canon deities as 'their God', with a capital G, which is of course heresy of the highest order. This is why, in Dallic history, the rise of nationalism was always accompanied with an increase in religious tension as well. That might be very interesting!

Oh, that sounds interesting indeed. Does this mean that some units can have Breech Rifles?
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Postby Reverend Norv » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:34 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Alright, what I am thinking of now is the early industrial era, the flaring up of national identities within the empire and the subsequent struggles that follows from that.

Interestingly, during the rise of nationalism, various peoples began to adopt one or more of the Canon deities as 'their God', with a capital G, which is of course heresy of the highest order. This is why, in Dallic history, the rise of nationalism was always accompanied with an increase in religious tension as well. That might be very interesting!


Sounds good to me. I'll be looking forward to making some borderline-heretical Highlanders, building off the great work that Pasong did in this iteration.
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Postby Cylarn » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:46 am

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Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:-snip-


I will be bringing back my mounted infantry back into the fray. How many years after the last RP, will this be?
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Postby Nations United for Conquest » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:21 am

Cylarn wrote:
Reverend Norv wrote:


I will be bringing back my mounted infantry back into the fray. How many years after the last RP, will this be?


A refined Light Infantry Battalion will be returning to sow the training grounds full of crops yet again
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Postby Olthenia » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:20 am

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Postby Pasong Tirad » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:18 pm

Reverend Norv wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Alright, what I am thinking of now is the early industrial era, the flaring up of national identities within the empire and the subsequent struggles that follows from that.

Interestingly, during the rise of nationalism, various peoples began to adopt one or more of the Canon deities as 'their God', with a capital G, which is of course heresy of the highest order. This is why, in Dallic history, the rise of nationalism was always accompanied with an increase in religious tension as well. That might be very interesting!


Sounds good to me. I'll be looking forward to making some borderline-heretical Highlanders, building off the great work that Pasong did in this iteration.

The Highlanders could have been done a lot better, and I have no doubt that you'll go further than I could ever dream with them. They're all yours! I was myself considering making a different company. Now that we're in the industrial era, we've got a lot more to work with.
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Postby Reverend Norv » Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:09 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:
Reverend Norv wrote:
Sounds good to me. I'll be looking forward to making some borderline-heretical Highlanders, building off the great work that Pasong did in this iteration.

The Highlanders could have been done a lot better, and I have no doubt that you'll go further than I could ever dream with them. They're all yours! I was myself considering making a different company. Now that we're in the industrial era, we've got a lot more to work with.


Ah - I've a hunch I know where you are going with this, given the change in era, but I'll wait to see if I'm right.

For the Highlanders, I'm inclined to build on one of the fascinating aspects of the actual historical Highland regiments. The English regarded the Highlanders as natural-born soldiers, of unmatched bravery and spirit, but also as fundamentally alien: speakers of a different language, heirs of a different culture. In fact, these attitudes were both the products and the causes of specific, self-fulfilling social forces. Because Westminster saw the Highlands as a backwater inhabited by second-class citizens, British economic policy toward the Highlands left the region's inhabitants with very few options besides professional military service. So the Highlands produced a ton of volunteer career soldiers precisely because they were ill-treated by the government, and the Highlanders became the tip of the British imperial spear precisely because they were - in some ways - its first victims. That's the complicated dynamic - a volunteer loyalty that is no less sincere for being born of systemic social abuse - that I'm interested in focusing on.
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Postby Ormata » Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:55 pm

How early is early industrial era? Would a unit armed with mixed lever actions, single shot bolt actions, and Gatling Guns be too far?

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Postby Reverend Norv » Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:59 pm

Ormata wrote:How early is early industrial era? Would a unit armed with mixed lever actions, single shot bolt actions, and Gatling Guns be too far?


I'd imagine so. Early industrial era usually means something like the Crimean War, or even earlier.
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Postby Ormata » Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:05 pm

Reverend Norv wrote:
Ormata wrote:How early is early industrial era? Would a unit armed with mixed lever actions, single shot bolt actions, and Gatling Guns be too far?


I'd imagine so. Early industrial era usually means something like the Crimean War, or even earlier.


Crimean War...well then I could probably do a mixed unit of lever, bolt/breech, and mountain gun unit...

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Postby Reverend Norv » Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:07 pm

Ormata wrote:
Reverend Norv wrote:
I'd imagine so. Early industrial era usually means something like the Crimean War, or even earlier.


Crimean War...well then I could probably do a mixed unit of lever, bolt/breech, and mountain gun unit...


If you look at surviving paintings and photographs of the Crimean War, I doubt it; the technology available was more like that of the Napoleonic period than that of the Franco-Prussian War. But, of course, it is ultimately up to the OP.
For really, I think that the poorest he that is in England hath a life to live as the greatest he. And therefore truly, Sir, I think it's clear that every man that is to live under a Government ought first by his own consent to put himself under that Government. And I do think that the poorest man in England is not at all bound in a strict sense to that Government that he hath not had a voice to put himself under.
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Postby Ormata » Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:54 pm

Reverend Norv wrote:
Ormata wrote:
Crimean War...well then I could probably do a mixed unit of lever, bolt/breech, and mountain gun unit...


If you look at surviving paintings and photographs of the Crimean War, I doubt it; the technology available was more like that of the Napoleonic period than that of the Franco-Prussian War. But, of course, it is ultimately up to the OP.


I mean...true, probably, but eh...

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Postby Nations United for Conquest » Thu Jun 13, 2019 3:44 am

Ormata wrote:
Reverend Norv wrote:
If you look at surviving paintings and photographs of the Crimean War, I doubt it; the technology available was more like that of the Napoleonic period than that of the Franco-Prussian War. But, of course, it is ultimately up to the OP.


I mean...true, probably, but eh...


Going with the theme of the previous RP in mind, we're not exactly the type of units that would probably be outfitted with that kind of stuff. Maybe some cavalry units might have Carbines of that Style, but Bolt Actions probably wouldn't be common enough to outfit an entire Battalion. The only reference I can find to widespread Bolt or Breech rifles would be Carbines supplied to the US Cav in the Civil War, or were bought by individuals in the Cavalry themselves. Most other Breech or Bolt rifles supplied to troops were, from my findings, given in low numbers and were general unfavorable to troops as the technology hadn't fully matured at that time.

But that's just my two cents on the matter
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Capital - Gesno
Population - 325,581,223
Currency - Krot ($)
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OP Gatelord - [OOC]
The Coming Storm - PLANNED
TBA FE RP - PLANNED

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Postby Cylarn » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:00 am

Nations United for Conquest wrote:-snip-


Even by 1860, many armies were still in the process of phasing out their flintlocks. The Charleville musket was produced up until 1840 after all, and even the Baker Rifle of the 1820s was widely found in Mexican hands during the Mexican-American War. My opinion is that, by the time of the RP, our units would be equipped with primarily percussion-cap firearms, albeit not smoothbore muskets. Even so, flintlock rifles might still be utilized even by soldiers from a cosmopolitan region of the Empire. Officers themselves might have access to a cap and ball revolver as a service pistol of private acquisition, but arming your army with a foreign, expensive kind of firearm might be less helpful to cost-effectiveness when equipping and assembling your men.
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Postby Rodez » Thu Jun 13, 2019 3:07 pm

I’m leaning toward bringing back my battalion of Cybulskan frontiersman, although I am also thinking about the possibility of a more cosmopolitan unit with a closer cultural attachment to the empire. Don’t know yet.

Also I think Cylarn already asked this, but how many years ahead are we moving? If it’s not too far, it could be fun to reintroduce some characters as old men, or if we are, introduce their sons or grandsons.
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Postby Nations United for Conquest » Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:56 pm

Rodez wrote:I’m leaning toward bringing back my battalion of Cybulskan frontiersman, although I am also thinking about the possibility of a more cosmopolitan unit with a closer cultural attachment to the empire. Don’t know yet.

Also I think Cylarn already asked this, but how many years ahead are we moving? If it’s not too far, it could be fun to reintroduce some characters as old men, or if we are, introduce their sons or grandsons.


Not sure if what happened in this RP or the existence of it would be considered canon going forward [no pun intended], but it was mentioned it would be more towards an early industrial era, so around the 1850s-60s. Granted, the last RP had a very ambiguous time period, but was somewhere in the early 1800s
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Leader - Prime Minister Alaro Kuhn
Capital - Gesno
Population - 325,581,223
Currency - Krot ($)
Roleplay Information
OP Gatelord - [OOC]
The Coming Storm - PLANNED
TBA FE RP - PLANNED

THE DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST REPUBLIC OF OSKANO
COBALT NETWORK MEMBER
Est. 1663

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Ormata
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Postby Ormata » Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:34 am

Idea for everyone (will develop further) is a lever action rifle company if ill-repute due to them being an integrated unit which was taken from a conquered enemy in one of the more recent expansions. The ill-repute would also be due to the fact that they targeted (and still target) enemy officers, NCOs, bugles, colors, etc.

We'll, ah...be sorta like militia, I suppose? Mounted Infantry.

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