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After The Great Deluge (Alt-Hist, OOC) [DEAD]

Postby The Cosmic Frankish Empire » Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:03 pm



Second Azerbaijan Democratic Republic - Zhaas123
The Incan Empire - Lancastria


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The year is 2062, but the world is not a place of glimmering cities, high technology or great progress that many in the past might have hoped for. Society is agrarian, life is tough and even the greatest of the world's cities are deeply lacking in mechanised industry. The world of 2062 is not in the midst of ever-accelerating technological and social progress; the world of 2062 is recovering from an almost apocalyptic disaster, The Great Deluge, in which the Earth's oceans rose a kilometre and inundated much of its land. The Great Deluge has caused technology to regress, has made the world's population shrink dramatically and has made the world almost unrecognisable.

It is the 1st of March, 2062- 100 years after the Great Deluge began, and 50 years since sea levels finally peaked. Earth has been ravaged by the wrath of the oceans, and human civilisation is a shadow of its former self.

The cause of the Great Deluge can be blamed on one man- General Secretary Joseph Stalin, leader of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. In late 1952, with the arms race of the Cold War beginning, Stalin suggested to his highest officials that despite the USSR's pre-existing nuclear capabilities, it would nevertheless be a good idea to develop other weapons of mass destruction apart from nukes in an attempt to one-up the Americans. The top echelons of the Russian military went through a wide array of ideas and to a limited extent attempted many of them, but one proposal above all gained prominence - that of Project Perun.

The goal of Project Perun, named after the Slavic pagan god of thunder, was to create a device capable of causing earthquakes. With the threat of seismic warfare as a deterrent, the Soviets believed that the West would have no choice but to refrain from aggression against the Communist bloc. It was thought that this in turn would greatly aid the expansion of Communism across the globe.

The project was top secret until 1962, when the USSR tested their seismic weapons and caused massive earthquakes (magnitude 7.9) off the coast of Kamchatka. This was partially in response to tensions resulting from the Sino-Soviet split, but at the same time the practical realisation of Project Perun was nigh inevitable regardless.

A few days later, settlements around the Sea of Okhotsk under both Japanese and Russian jurisdiction began noticing an abnormal rise in sea levels - the sea was rising by more than five centimetres a day and not receding. The Soviets realised that the weapon created by Project Perun had fragmented the seabed for many kilometres and extremely deeply, opening up deep subterranean reservoirs of water which were now emptying themselves into Earth's oceans.

After 30 days, sea levels across the world were beginning to rise dramatically. low-lying coastal communities in China were decimated by a 1.64 metre sea level rise over the course of those thirty days, and the situation elsewhere wasn't much better. The United Nations Security Council unanimously voted to declare a state of global emergency. The Vietnam War was put on hold indefinitely by an armistice as both sides scrambled to relocate their people to higher ground. Sea levels would rise by a whole 20 metres over the next 12 months and continue rising at that rate.

In April 2063, a multinational scientific expedition was launched to determine how much water was being added to Earth's oceans. They determined using radar that, although the oceans would continue to rise by 20 metres a year, the seas would stop rising once they had reached levels a kilometre higher than before the flooding had began. This finding was met by a mix of relief and panic from humanity - the flooding would end eventually, but only after the vast majority of the world's population had lost their homes under hundreds of metres of seawater.

The flood would be dubbed the "Great Deluge".

As the exodus to high ground grew more intense following the news, order broke down across the world and governments were toppled. Hundreds of millions of people across the world would die at some point as global anarchy set in during the worst natural disaster in human history. The few national governments which did survive became military dictatorships in all but name.

The seas would continue to rise for half a century, halting abruptly in the June of 2012. After two generations of chaos, destruction and collapse, those who had been spared by the Great Deluge now had the opportunity to rebuild. The survivors lived in a new world - seawater lapped at the Rockies while fish swam above the submerged streets of New York City - but the Great Deluge had spared them, and what was left was better than nothing. It was now time to rebuild.

The past fifty years since then have been spent picking up the pieces of what was lost and trying to build a new world out of them. During that time new nations have appeared, the streets of towns and cities are once again full of people calmly going about their days, maritime trade is returning to the seas and industry is slowly advancing towards the heights it once achieved. Will you help the people of the world continue their Herculean task of rebuilding what was lost?




The World of Today


The post-Great Deluge world is very different from our own. Sea levels are a kilometer higher- Russia, Central Asia, the Indian Subcontinent, Eastern North America and the eastern half of China are now almost entirely underwater.

Western North America, separated from the green islands of the Appalachians by thousands of kilometres of ocean, is a reborn Laramidia stretching from the Rockies in the north to the Mexican Plateau in the south. Mexico City is the largest pre-Deluge city to still be above water. In Europe, only mountain ranges have survived the Great Deluge, producing jagged and complex landforms in its wake. The Afghan, Iranian and Anatolian Plateaus, along with the mountains of the Caucasus, stand above the waves as subcontinents linked by land bridges and islands chains. Africa too is a collection of subcontinents, many of them the remnants of East Africa's fertile highlands. Lake Victoria and Lake Kivu still exist in their pre-deluge states, and many African cities such as Addis Ababa and Johannesburg are still far above sea level. In Asia, the Himalayan Plateau is stands steadfast against the waves, with the plains of western China and Mongolia to its north and an almost-completely flooded Indian subcontinent to its south. The Tajik and Kyrgyz people now inhabit a fertile, mountainous coastal region with a mild climate, and Mongolia, with its coastal Lake Khövsgöl, possesses the largest body of fresh water in Asia by volume (along with seasonal monsoons over much of the country's once-parched plains). Southeast Asia and Oceania are a collection of jagged archipelagos that stand where their mountain ranges once did, with the exception of New Guinea's highlands. South America is mostly centred around the Andes, which have a significantly-milder climate, large reserves of fresh water and great agricultural potential.

What remains of the Earth's continents have a much milder, more oceanic climate with less temperature variation and more rain than before the Great Deluge. The Poles are warmer and the equator is cooler. A lack of fertile cropland is a problem in many regions of the world however; shortages occur almost everywhere, sometimes resulting in famine.The breadbaskets of the world are East Africa, the Southern Mexican Plateau, the Andes, Anatolia, East Africa and Yunan. Some coastal areas, such as the eastern foothills of the Rockies and Northern Mongolia, have become suitable for crop-growing as a result of increased rainfall but still struggle with soil fertility. Fisheries are a source of protein for much of the world's population, but not as much as one might expect; the Great Deluge has severely disrupted marine ecosystems. Nevertheless, cod, catfish and salmon are common meals.

The world's population is around 900 million, having declined from 3.1 billion in 1962. Population decline has leveled off and is now stable, and with the Green Revolution having been nipped in the bud by the Great Deluge and agricultural methods regressing many areas hover at around their carrying capacity. Population density around the world tends to be greatest on large, reasonably-fertile plateaus that bore large populations before the Great Deluge.

Technology across most of the world hovers at just below an industrial level. Advanced manufacturing, where it still exists (namely the former developed world), relies heavily on artisanship and is mostly geared towards producing much-needed goods such as bolt-action rifles and threshing machines as opposed to commodity production. In places like Africa muskets have seen a return to use, with relic guns such as AK-47s being reserved for elite military units. With much of the world's oil-bearing land over a kilometre underwater and oil drilling having ended with the collapse of the Great Deluge, transportation is once more reliant on the horse and sail. Steamships are used in more advanced countries. Travel between landmasses by ship takes months, and is thus mostly done for either exploration or for trading valuable, exotic commodities. Coal, being most abundant in the Rockies, the Mongolian Plateau, Yunnan and Southern Africa, remains important for heating and industry (to the extent that the latter still exists).




Nation Application


Note that your nation application doesn't necessarily have to be for a fully-fledged state entity and a sedentary people. I'm perfectly fine with tribal entities as well - a very loose Tuareg tribal confederation on one of the former Sahara's islands would be cool for instance. I'm just pointing this out because sometimes people play in althist nation RPs as tribes, and I'm cool with that.

Anyway, here's the app.

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[b]Name of the country you are RPing as:[/b]

[b]Territory controlled:[/b]

[b]Form of government, ideology (if any) and leader/s:[/b]

[b]Ethnic and religious makeup:[/b]

[b]A brief history of how your country came to be:[/b]

[b]Agricultural suitability of territory (based on [url=https://nelson.wisc.edu/sage/data-and-models/atlas/maps/suit/preview3.html]this[/url] and [url=http://passel.unl.edu/Image/mmamo3/TimKettler/InhLandQual/LandQualityAll-Opt=800x500.gif]this[/url], but feel free to take liberties with places like Colorado and northern Mongolia which now have more rainfall):[/b]

[b]Number of military naval vessels (if any, also their technological level will be determined by how developed your society was pre-Deluge):[/b]

[b]Population of territory (I'm fine with a rough guess):[/b]


Name of the country you are RPing as:

Territory controlled:

Form of government, ideology (if any) and leader/s:

Ethnic and religious makeup:

A brief history of how your country came to be:

Agricultural suitability of territory (based on this and this, but feel free to take liberties with places like Colorado and northern Mongolia which now have more rainfall):

Number of military naval vessels (if any, also their technological level will be determined by how developed your society was pre-Deluge):

Population of territory (I'm fine with a rough guess):
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Postby Zhaas123 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:21 am

Name of the country you are RPing as: Second Azerbaijan Democratic Republic

Territory controlled: https://imgur.com/a/yfGS6qJ

Form of government, ideology (if any) and leader/s: Multiparty democratic republic (de jure) One party military junta (de facto)
Ruling Body: Azerbaijani National Council, informally known as the four general, this body has led the republic since the delcration of indepdance from a cumbling Iran in 1975.
The current members of the Council are
ßləkbər Abdulin: Admiral and Speaker
Sədaqat Nicatlü: Naval Captain
Kambiz Qanbari: Air Marshal
Yanik Sadak: General

Several Ideologies are active in the Republic the most notable as estimated by the internal service are Islamic socialism the official state ideology, Restorationism mainly followed among the Iranian exile community and the Turkic Azerbaijanis that wish to see the Republic of Azerbaijan take a leading role in the reunification of the Iran some groups endorse a Greater Iran concept, Islamism religious groups that seek to over throw the government and establish fundamentalist states, Pan-Islam an ideology that seeks to unite all Muslims under a single government. Green or Environmental politics ranging from traditional Conservative or liberal teachings mixed with Environmental politics to Green anarchism

Ethnic and religious makeup: 88% Azerbjians, 5% Iranians, 3% Turks, 3% Kurd's, 1% other
93% Shia Islam, 6% Sunni, 1% other

A brief history of how your country came to be: Formed from the ashes of the collapse of the Iranian monarchy in 1975, the Azeris of Northern Iran bolstered by refuges from the submerging Azerbaijan Soviet Republic to the north declared it's independence, as the Second Azerbaijan Democratic Republic. Since its birth the Republic has been dominated by a council of military leaders this council, the Azerbaijan National Council, used strict iron fisted martial law to keep the peace in their territory. By 2000 the regime now under younger more moderate leadership slowly began democratizing the nation. This would prove largely symbolic though as the council keep ultimate veto power over any decision that any any hypothetical civilian governing body could make. Now in 2062 that nation is at a precipice with trade picking up again many hope that the rationing will end as trade brings in a food safety net, but under this hopeful face lies a deep tension between the different groups that make up political life in the republic.

Agricultural suitability of territory : While not the most fertile area before the Deluge the territory now boasts a respectable harvest each year, enough to feed the population at least. Trading to increase food security is one of the main prioritizes of the government at this time.

Number of military naval vessels: 5, retrofitted left overs from the Iranian and Azerbaijan Caspian fleets

Population of territory: the population is believed to be around 15 million people
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Postby The Cosmic Frankish Empire » Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:10 am

Zhaas123 wrote:Name of the country you are RPing as: Second Azerbaijan Democratic Republic

Territory controlled: https://imgur.com/a/yfGS6qJ

Form of government, ideology (if any) and leader/s: Multiparty democratic republic (de jure) One party military junta (de facto)
Ruling Body: Azerbaijani National Council, informally known as the four general, this body has led the republic since the delcration of indepdance from a cumbling Iran in 1975.
The current members of the Council are
ßləkbər Abdulin: Admiral and Speaker
Sədaqat Nicatlü: Naval Captain
Kambiz Qanbari: Air Marshal
Yanik Sadak: General

Several Ideologies are active in the Republic the most notable as estimated by the internal service are Islamic socialism the official state ideology, Restorationism mainly followed among the Iranian exile community and the Turkic Azerbaijanis that wish to see the Republic of Azerbaijan take a leading role in the reunification of the Iran some groups endorse a Greater Iran concept, Islamism religious groups that seek to over throw the government and establish fundamentalist states, Pan-Islam an ideology that seeks to unite all Muslims under a single government. Green or Environmental politics ranging from traditional Conservative or liberal teachings mixed with Environmental politics to Green anarchism

Ethnic and religious makeup: 88% Azerbjians, 5% Iranians, 3% Turks, 3% Kurd's, 1% other
93% Shia Islam, 6% Sunni, 1% other

A brief history of how your country came to be: Formed from the ashes of the collapse of the Iranian monarchy in 1975, the Azeris of Northern Iran bolstered by refuges from the submerging Azerbaijan Soviet Republic to the north declared it's independence, as the Second Azerbaijan Democratic Republic. Since its birth the Republic has been dominated by a council of military leaders this council, the Azerbaijan National Council, used strict iron fisted martial law to keep the peace in their territory. By 2000 the regime now under younger more moderate leadership slowly began democratizing the nation. This would prove largely symbolic though as the council keep ultimate veto power over any decision that any any hypothetical civilian governing body could make. Now in 2062 that nation is at a precipice with trade picking up again many hope that the rationing will end as trade brings in a food safety net, but under this hopeful face lies a deep tension between the different groups that make up political life in the republic.

Agricultural suitability of territory : While not the most fertile area before the Deluge the territory now boasts a respectable harvest each year, enough to feed the population at least. Trading to increase food security is one of the main prioritizes of the government at this time.

Number of military naval vessels: 5, retrofitted left overs from the Iranian and Azerbaijan Caspian fleets

Population of territory: the population is believed to be around 15 million people

Seems like a good app to me. Accepted.

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Postby Illegal Planets » Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:18 am

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Postby The Cosmic Frankish Empire » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:14 pm

Fixed up some typing errors in the OP and got an IC up. Ready for people to apply and start posting on the go if they express interest.

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Postby Zjaum » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:56 pm

Taggle.
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Postby Yuzhou » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:03 pm

Are we required to make our territory applications match the borders outlined in red on the political map, or can we cut those as we see fit? Considering nabbing what was Utah, but don't want really much else of the remaining Rockies.
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Postby The Cosmic Frankish Empire » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:49 pm

Yuzhou wrote:Are we required to make our territory applications match the borders outlined in red on the political map, or can we cut those as we see fit? Considering nabbing what was Utah, but don't want really much else of the remaining Rockies.

You don't have to follow the red lines at all, I just put them there as reference points because the landforms are so different. Cut 'em as you wish.

And go ahead with Utah and (presumably) the Mormons, they have a lot of potential in this world.
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Postby Afrique Occidentale » Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:15 am

Holy hell the concept is great

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Postby Lancastria » Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:31 am

MUST TAG NOW!!!!

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Lancastrian Application.

Postby Lancastria » Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:33 am

Name of the country you are RPing as: The Incan Empire (Isn't it fitting?)

Territory controlled: Peru, Bolivia, Western-Argentina (not quite the 'four regions' but good enough)

Form of government, ideology (if any) and leader/s:
Enlightened Absolutism (yeah, that 18th century version)

Emperor: John Salvador I

Advisory Council: The Regional Congress

Ethnic and religious makeup: Mostly comsists of Peruvians and Bolivians who survived The Great Deluge, niw referring to themselves as 'incans'. Many have devoted themselves to serving God, in hopes of finding salvation, or the state, to die a glorious death serving the Incan army. The government later began following a policy of voluntary integration

A brief history of how your country came to be:
Robert Salvador was a Peruvian army officer before the disaster, he and his men - those who did survive - took refuge atop the great central andes.
Each day, more and more refugees started pouring in as the weak and unworthy faced their demise, so harsh was the weather amid those days if certain doom.
Robert and his company built temporary homes for the deceased, thus gaining more trust in his fairly large community.
Hearing about local governments failing to provide protection, Robert ran to his makeshift office to write.
Once his ambitious speech was finished, he proceeded to present it to his community, declaring that the governments of old had failed and that he was to build a new nation, and guide his followers to prosperity.
A sizable minority was inspired by his speech and encouraged Robert to crown himself. With the following months, Robert consolidated his power and sent his brothers-in-arms campaigning to secure the remainder of what once was South-America for himself. They faced little to no resistance until they reached Southern-Argentina, which they were unable to conquer.
However Robert now had a solid backbone of his army and his most loyal of followets who regularly spread the word of his victories.

agricultural suitability of territory (based on this and this, but feel free to take liberties with places like Colorado and northern Mongolia which now have more rainfall): Unfortunately, the plugin isn't supported, and I'm way to lazy to check, so I'm going to guess that it is suitable in most regions. The weather maybe kind of resembles my own country of Estonia, so I'm basing it off that.

Number of military naval vessels (if any, also their technological level will be determined by how developed your society was pre-Deluge): 31 wooden sailships (me not being into weaponry might habe screwed me)

Population of territory (I'm fine with a rough guess): the territory is home to about 23 million people.
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Postby The Cosmic Frankish Empire » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:19 am

Lancastria wrote:Name of the country you are RPing as: The Incan Empire (Isn't it fitting?)

Territory controlled: Peru, Bolivia, Western-Argentina (not quite the 'four regions' but good enough)

Form of government, ideology (if any) and leader/s:
Enlightened Absolutism (yeah, that 18th century version)

Emperor: John Salvador I

Advisory Council: The Regional Congress

Ethnic and religious makeup: Mostly comsists of Peruvians and Bolivians who survived The Great Deluge, niw referring to themselves as 'incans'. They had lost all faith in christiantiy, until an old priest who claimed to have spoken with the ancient gods enlightened them, now they worship the old sun god Inti, amoung others.
They keep everything about their religionin a secret book entitled: "The visions of Sakhmed".

A brief history of how your country came to be: After the colapse of Argentina, Peru and Bolivia, many refugees found themselves looking for shelter atop the Andes.
One of these hopeless individuals was a former Peruvian politician Robert Salvador. Seeing the people around him fearing for their lives gave him an idea: He gave a great speech to the public, declaring that "In our darkest hour, our homelands are forever flooded by the rapidly risimg seas, yet I - Robert Salvador - can lead us, the survivors of this Great Deluge, to a better and brighter future! Follow me, and we will strive for a better future atop our safehaven!"
He was later crowned Robert I of house Salvador, keeper of the andes and emperor of the Inca by his followers.

Agricultural suitability of territory (based on this and this, but feel free to take liberties with places like Colorado and northern Mongolia which now have more rainfall): Unfortunately, the plugin isn't supported, and I'm way to lazy to check, so I'm going to guess that it is suitable in most regions. The weather maybe kind of resembles my own country of Estonia, so I'm basing it off that.

Number of military naval vessels (if any, also their technological level will be determined by how developed your society was pre-Deluge): 31 wooden sailships (me not being into weaponry might habe screwed me)

Population of territory (I'm fine with a rough guess): the territory is home to about 23 million people.


Although your nation was founded six days ago, you seem like an alright RPer to me so I'd like to accept you. Your app looks mostly good to me. Same with teal on the map (which you've telegrammed me about, can be done easily)

If it isn't too much of a problem, I have issues with some other parts of your app though. Namely your history and possibly religion...

I'll get to the religion part first because I'm less concerned with it. I dunno how realistic Andean Latin Americans totally abandoning Roman Catholicism is - they are a very Catholic people. A large portion are Spanish-speaking people with little connection to their old gods, although they do maintain a variety of cultural connections to pre-Christian times. I think it would be more realistic if you had a political/cultural elite worshiping Inti along with the professional clergy (à la the original professional clergy of the Incan Empire) and sympathetic parts of the country's Amerindian near-majority plurality (still a lot of people you could convert to Inti), with the Mestizos/others engaging in greater syncretism between Inti and Christianity (think public festivals during lunar month, or linking Viracocha to the Christian God) and there being a mutual sense of religious syncretism and tolerance between the Inti elite and Christian majority (Inti was syncretic from the start anyway, and the folkish indifference of the Andean Spanish-speaking peasantry is probably pretty conductive to tolerating a pagan elite)

http://csandes.org/peruvian-paganism/ With a google search I was lucky enough to find this article on religious syncretism in Peru, pretty interesting if you ask me.

Secondly, I really think you need to rewrite your history. With the Bolivian, Peruvian and Argentina governments having presumably collapsed during the Great Deluge (Lima and Buenos Aires are in the mesopelagic zone now, Bolivia's clearly not around as a state) and people flooding onto the Andean Plateau en-masse, I doubt being a good public speaker alone is enough to get one crowned Emperor. I imagine there would have been a fair bit of voluntary integration into the Empire by some communities (as was the case with the IRL Incas), but a lot of it would have to have been through military conquest. Having Robert Salvador proclaim a state somewhere now central to the Empire and then use a mix of military might/diplomacy to bring the Andes under his control over the next few decades would be much more realistic. Former Peruvian and Bolivian soldiers using their rifles to fight for a new Incan Empire seems pretty badass too. Please rewrite your history with a neater proclamation of the Empire and a few military campaigns to unite it please.
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Postby Labstoska » Sat Jul 07, 2018 2:19 pm

Tag, also mind whatever remains of Switzerland and Austria?
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Postby Zjaum » Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:02 pm

Question: The North American Sierra Nevada mountain range (dividing California from Nevada) is actually higher than the Rockies, and would probably be the most technologically advanced region, not to mention completely sound. Can I reserve that mountain range, then?
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Postby Zjaum » Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:08 pm

By the way, just a quick side note, all the ice in the world melting could only raise the sea levels about 70 meters, rather than the full kilometer. I'll play along, but I just wanted to let you know that.

https://www.amnh.org/explore/ology/earth/ask-a-scientist-about-our-environment/will-the-world-ever-be-all-under-water/
https://calculatedearth.com/index.php
I use my NationStates stats, because a population of billions/trillions and an economy of hundreds of trillions is totally viable, trust me.
But seriously, aside from the population and GDP, just assume that my NS stats are roughly accurate.

Support: Paleo-imperialism, conservatism, libertarianism, Christianity.
Against: Stupid people, resistance to industrial progress, alt-right, any form of government at or beyond socialism.

I hail from The League of Conservative Nations. Hearts unthawed, hearts unshaken!

Takaka Tar' Turayi,
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Postby Yuzhou » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:18 pm

Zjaum wrote:By the way, just a quick side note, all the ice in the world melting could only raise the sea levels about 70 meters, rather than the full kilometer. I'll play along, but I just wanted to let you know that.

https://www.amnh.org/explore/ology/earth/ask-a-scientist-about-our-environment/will-the-world-ever-be-all-under-water/
https://calculatedearth.com/index.php


But if I'm not mistaken, and this will lend me to a double post with my app, but didn't project Perun split the sea-bed and realize large amounts of subterranean water? I think that, in addition to the melting icecaps, is what caused the level rise.
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Postby The Cosmic Frankish Empire » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:31 pm

Zjaum wrote:By the way, just a quick side note, all the ice in the world melting could only raise the sea levels about 70 meters, rather than the full kilometer. I'll play along, but I just wanted to let you know that.

https://www.amnh.org/explore/ology/earth/ask-a-scientist-about-our-environment/will-the-world-ever-be-all-under-water/
https://calculatedearth.com/index.php

Of course I knew this. This is why I had the 1 km sea level rise come from subterranean water reservoirs (Like in the novel Flood by Steven Baxter, except not all land is flooded this time), which isn't really scientifically accurate either but is a cool concept imo. The polar ice caps are still alive and kicking for the most part, although the climate at the Poles is milder.

Zjaum wrote:Question: The North American Sierra Nevada mountain range (dividing California from Nevada) is actually higher than the Rockies, and would probably be the most technologically advanced region, not to mention completely sound. Can I reserve that mountain range, then?

Sure thing.

Although I don't know how sound you would be in terms of preserving old world stuff - compared to Africa your situation will be pretty good tech-wise, but especially on the Californian side of the mountain refugee overcrowding is probably gonna cause chaos and loss of infrastructure (which is needed to maintain high technology and industrial society). I doubt the Sierra Nevada lands have much agricultural land compared to the population that lives around the region, although California's infamous water shortage problems are probably over now that its remaining area is full of meltwater rivers. Expect a lot of people to have died on its foothills during the Great Deluge.

Another problem you'll face is a lack of coal (crucial for industrialisation), which the Rockies have a ton of but the Sierra Nevada range has pretty much none of - don't expect to be able to build very many steamships. You've got an nice amount of gold though, and a fair bit of it is going to be located in hillsides and riverbeds which are still above water. Take the San Gabriel River for instance, which people are illegally taking gold out of in the 2010s and of which a large portion is above 1000m in altitude. Even after the Great Deluge, there's still gold in them hills. It's a tradeoff in terms of mineral wealth, but it has consequences. Still, expect to have some state-of-the-art firearms.

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Name of the country you are RPing as: The Incan Empire (Isn't it fitting?)

Territory controlled: Peru, Bolivia, Western-Argentina (not quite the 'four regions' but good enough)

Form of government, ideology (if any) and leader/s:
Enlightened Absolutism (yeah, that 18th century version)

Emperor: John Salvador I

Advisory Council: The Regional Congress

Ethnic and religious makeup: Mostly comsists of Peruvians and Bolivians who survived The Great Deluge, niw referring to themselves as 'incans'. Many have devoted themselves to serving God, in hopes of finding salvation, or the state, to die a glorious death serving the Incan army. The government later began following a policy of voluntary integration

A brief history of how your country came to be:
Robert Salvador was a Peruvian army officer before the disaster, he and his men - those who did survive - took refuge atop the great central andes.
Each day, more and more refugees started pouring in as the weak and unworthy faced their demise, so harsh was the weather amid those days if certain doom.
Robert and his company built temporary homes for the deceased, thus gaining more trust in his fairly large community.
Hearing about local governments failing to provide protection, Robert ran to his makeshift office to write.
Once his ambitious speech was finished, he proceeded to present it to his community, declaring that the governments of old had failed and that he was to build a new nation, and guide his followers to prosperity.
A sizable minority was inspired by his speech and encouraged Robert to crown himself. With the following months, Robert consolidated his power and sent his brothers-in-arms campaigning to secure the remainder of what once was South-America for himself. They faced little to no resistance until they reached Southern-Argentina, which they were unable to conquer.
However Robert now had a solid backbone of his army and his most loyal of followets who regularly spread the word of his victories.

agricultural suitability of territory (based on this and this, but feel free to take liberties with places like Colorado and northern Mongolia which now have more rainfall): Unfortunately, the plugin isn't supported, and I'm way to lazy to check, so I'm going to guess that it is suitable in most regions. The weather maybe kind of resembles my own country of Estonia, so I'm basing it off that.

Number of military naval vessels (if any, also their technological level will be determined by how developed your society was pre-Deluge): 31 wooden sailships (me not being into weaponry might habe screwed me)

Population of territory (I'm fine with a rough guess): the territory is home to about 23 million people.


Accepted.
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Postby Benuty » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:19 pm

Kind of curious in making a republic around whats left of British Columbia, and what remains of Oregon, and Washington. On to the matter at hand what exactly is left of Oregon, and Washington?
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Postby Terminus Pheonix » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:07 pm

Consider me interested, especially in that little archipelago made of what remains of the Appalachians. I assume they would be rich in coal?

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Postby Duestchstien » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:30 pm

Name of the country you are RPing as: Rocky Mountain Republic

Territory controlled: Former American States of Arizona, Utah, Colorado, New Mexico, and remaining land in Kansas, Texas, and Oklahoma.

Form of government, ideology (if any) and leader/s: Unitary Parliamentary Republic
Chief Secretary - Andre DiCamelo
Deputy Secretary - Frank Peterson
Secretary of Transportation and Infrastructure - Harrison Shelton
Secretary of Water - Kevin Jackson
Secretary of Population - Michael Watson-Turner
Secretary of Mining - Greg Hamsted
Secretary of Fisheries and Shipping - Jose Ramirez
Secretary of Labor - Chuck Kemper
Secretary of Security and Safety - Cindy Kheilly-Smith
Secretary of War - Louis Napoly
Secretary of State Relations - Thomas Gray
Secretary of Economics- Eric Rosenblatt
Treasurer - Kirsten Bly
Chief Justice - Karen Fitzpatrick
Chief of Staff - John Mathews-Miller
Speaker of the House - Tyler Berck
Senate Viceroy - Frank T. Armsted

Ethnic and Religious makeup:

RaceEthnic Percentage
White/Caucasian44%
Hispanic/Latino27%
African American23%
Native American5%
Asian0.8%
Indian0.18%
Pacific Islander0.02%


ReligionReligious Percentage
Atheist39%
Catholic27%
Protestant21%
Mormon5%
Jewish2%
Other6%


A brief history of how your country came to be: The South West and Rocky Mountain Areas began to boom in population with large amounts of refugees fleeing west from the rising waters. People mainly from the Carolinas, Georgia, Florida, and the Gulf Coast immigrated to the region. This meant cities higher up such as Denver, Salt Lake City, El Paso, and Tuscon quickly developed in the 1960s and 1970s. However as the region hit a new golden age, the rest of the country began to fall apart in the late 70s and early 80s the US government began to loose control over its population until it collapsed. The Entire area fell into civil chaos. However, as time progressed, one faction rose out of the ashes. They were known as the Rocky Mountain Republic and were determined to protect old world views. Their biggest success was allowing freedom. This helped them unite with the Mormon Republic (Utah). Besides that they also had a strong industry center in Denver and Ft Collins, as well as lots of good farmland. By 2002 All of the current territory had either been conquered or annexed. They immediately got to work building up the infrastructure again, rebuilding train lines and the old highway system which was retrofitted to be used by horses and people instead of cars. They also knew about the important role horses would play in agriculture until the economy good get back to pre-deluge technology. They got to work breeding strong and sturdy horses and distributing them to the public. In Utah and New Mexico, Animal Husbandry became a large industry to make up for the lack of vegetation and agriculture. Many large fisheries were established, however the driving force behind the economy was the mining industry, with massive mineral, oil, and coal deposits the rocky mountain republic had a large economic base. In the western regions farming and agriculture boomed. Large Cities became industrial centers, With El Paso becoming a large center for food processing and shipping, Denver, Fort Collins, and Colorado Springs became large mining cities with refineries and all sorts of factories due to their vicinity to fuels and power. Tuscon became a large port city with its urban sprawl expanding to the near by coast. Salt Lake City became a hub of research, mining, and trade with civilization(s) in the Sierra Nevada Mountain Range. Grand Junction was turned into the capital of the timber and construction industries, and Las Curces was made into a power hub with several hyrdo-electric dams built on the now massive Rio Grande River, these dams provide all the power for the country with power lines bring it to other parts of the country.

In 2024 the New Major League Baseball or NMLB was established to provide entertainment to a powerless and struggling country. Old clubs were re-established. The teams are as follows: The Colorado Rockies (Lakewood), The Denver Capitols, The Boulder Miners, The Fort Collins Avalanches, The Colorado Athletics (Colorado Springs), The Grand Junction Lumberjacks, The Santa Fe Conquistadors, The Albaquerque Padres, The Amarillo Firebirds, The Lubbock Blue Socks, The El Paso Stars, The Las Cruces Diablos, The Tuscon Apache, The Flagstaff Cardinals, The Provo Rough Riders, and the Salt Lake City Rattlesnakes. In 2036 Train Companies began using electricity to power Refigerated Cars and Passenger Trains helping transport many goods across the country. The countries population and economy continued to rise as did its influence with a strong navy and army able to back everything up.

Agricultural suitability of territory (based on this and this, but feel free to take liberties with places like Colorado and northern Mongolia which now have more rainfall): Fairly Moderate, Eastern Kansas, Colorado, East Texas and Eastern Oklahoma all function as good Farm Land, though the rest of the country is largely dependent on other industries and is rather lacking in the agriculture department, something the government wants to change, seeing as they have to import a lot of food.

Number of military naval vessels (if any, also their technological level will be determined by how developed your society was pre-Deluge):

Population of territory (I'm fine with a rough guess): 36.8 Million

WIP
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Postby The Cosmic Frankish Empire » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:54 pm

Benuty wrote:Kind of curious in making a republic around whats left of British Columbia, and what remains of Oregon, and Washington. On to the matter at hand what exactly is left of Oregon, and Washington?

Not much is left of Oregon and Washington. The Cascade Range does exist as a pretty geologically-active archipelago though.

Terminus Pheonix wrote:Consider me interested, especially in that little archipelago made of what remains of the Appalachians. I assume they would be rich in coal?

Yeah.
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Postby Duestchstien » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:05 pm

Terminus Pheonix wrote:Consider me interested, especially in that little archipelago made of what remains of the Appalachians. I assume they would be rich in coal?

Not only that i did some looking around, you'd have some decent cities (Knoxville, Chattanooga, and Blacksburg), as well as some nice farm land. You also have several large universities like the University of Tennessee and Virginia Tech. In fact, the current population of the Appalachians is around 23 Million People.
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Postby The Cosmic Frankish Empire » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:26 pm

Duestchstien wrote:
Terminus Pheonix wrote:Consider me interested, especially in that little archipelago made of what remains of the Appalachians. I assume they would be rich in coal?

Not only that i did some looking around, you'd have some decent cities (Knoxville, Chattanooga, and Blacksburg), as well as some nice farm land. You also have several large universities like the University of Tennessee and Virginia Tech. In fact, the current population of the Appalachians is around 23 Million People.


If you go into wikipedia and look at the elevation of those cities, you'll find that Knoxville, Chattanoonga and Blacksburg actually won't be above water. The sea has risen 1000m (as stated in the OP), those three cities are all below that mark. There's land next to them that exists but not those cities themselves. Go to https://calculatedearth.com and check out how scraggly Appalachia's archipelago is with 1000m sea level rise- you have a lot of coal and timber, but not much land area and no surviving major cities (only what were relatively-small Appalachian towns before the Great Deluge).
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Postby Arkeyana » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:34 pm

Color me interested, is a thalassocracy an option? (I'd assume so given the current state of the world, but I'll do something else if it isn't practical)

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