1900: Alternative Divergence [AH][OOC-OPEN]

[The V O I D]

I'm here, as well - mostly waiting for the French and the Dutch to respond to my letters.

[Raetia Secunda]

Still alive,assuming the RP is too. Tracian, you wanna discuss history?

[Tracian Empire]

Still alive,assuming the RP is too. Tracian, you wanna discuss history?

The RP is still alive, of course. It's just slow, as it has always been.

What parts of history, more specifically?

If it's about the Roman conquest of Mesopotamia, it probably happened under Alexios the Great, or under one of this direct descendants.

[Raetia Secunda]

Still alive,assuming the RP is too. Tracian, you wanna discuss history?

The RP is still alive, of course. It's just slow, as it has always been.

What parts of history, more specifically?

If it's about the Roman conquest of Mesopotamia, it probably happened under Alexios the Great, or under one of this direct descendants.

This is what I've got for the Roman-Sassanian War. Tell me if you are happy:

"The great Roman-Persian War of the seventh century ended early in December 627, with Khosrow II making peace with Heraclius at Nineveh with a treaty settling the conflict uti possidetis. This led to minor uprisings against Khosrow II, which he managed to survive through. A much greater problem faced the Sassanians in the form of the Arab invasion of Mesopotamia in 633. Betrayed by his son Kavadh, who had him murdered in Ctesiphon, the Arabs succeeded in driving the Sassanians out of their capital and the whole of Mesoptamia by 635. Relocating to the Zagros, the embattled Sassanian rulers never mustered the power to retake Mesopotamia, even as the Arabs struggled against their Roman adversaries to the north and west. "

And at some point (we'd need to include Arabia in this) the Mesopotamian Arabs became independent, allowing the Persians to seize Sumer about 950 CE and the Romans seizing the rest in a time of your choice.

[Tracian Empire]

The RP is still alive, of course. It's just slow, as it has always been.

What parts of history, more specifically?

If it's about the Roman conquest of Mesopotamia, it probably happened under Alexios the Great, or under one of this direct descendants.

This is what I've got for the Roman-Sassanian War. Tell me if you are happy:

"The great Roman-Persian War of the seventh century ended early in December 627, with Khosrow II making peace with Heraclius at Nineveh with a treaty settling the conflict uti possidetis. This led to minor uprisings against Khosrow II, which he managed to survive through. A much greater problem faced the Sassanians in the form of the Arab invasion of Mesopotamia in 633. Betrayed by his son Kavadh, who had him murdered in Ctesiphon, the Arabs succeeded in driving the Sassanians out of their capital and the whole of Mesoptamia by 635. Relocating to the Zagros, the embattled Sassanian rulers never mustered the power to retake Mesopotamia, even as the Arabs struggled against their Roman adversaries to the north and west. "

And at some point (we'd need to include Arabia in this) the Mesopotamian Arabs became independent, allowing the Persians to seize Sumer about 950 CE and the Romans seizing the rest in a time of your choice.

The part about the Roman-Sassanian War is good - the war was pretty much pointless anyway - so it ending early wouldn't be much of an issue - but the end should be the same - the Romans regaining their lost territories, their captured soldiers, and the relics that were taken from Jerusalem, including the True Cross.

The war indemnity that was paid in real life doesn't really matter.

As for Mesopotamia - we should certainly discuss the rest with the Arabian player too - there was a Caliphate centered in Baghdad as far as I remember, but the Roman reconquest would certainly happen during the reign of Alexios.

We still need to decide the exact borders though.

[Raetia Secunda]

This is what I've got for the Roman-Sassanian War. Tell me if you are happy:

"The great Roman-Persian War of the seventh century ended early in December 627, with Khosrow II making peace with Heraclius at Nineveh with a treaty settling the conflict uti possidetis. This led to minor uprisings against Khosrow II, which he managed to survive through. A much greater problem faced the Sassanians in the form of the Arab invasion of Mesopotamia in 633. Betrayed by his son Kavadh, who had him murdered in Ctesiphon, the Arabs succeeded in driving the Sassanians out of their capital and the whole of Mesoptamia by 635. Relocating to the Zagros, the embattled Sassanian rulers never mustered the power to retake Mesopotamia, even as the Arabs struggled against their Roman adversaries to the north and west. "

And at some point (we'd need to include Arabia in this) the Mesopotamian Arabs became independent, allowing the Persians to seize Sumer about 950 CE and the Romans seizing the rest in a time of your choice.

The part about the Roman-Sassanian War is good - the war was pretty much pointless anyway - so it ending early wouldn't be much of an issue - but the end should be the same - the Romans regaining their lost territories, their captured soldiers, and the relics that were taken from Jerusalem, including the True Cross.

The war indemnity that was paid in real life doesn't really matter.

As for Mesopotamia - we should certainly discuss the rest with the Arabian player too - there was a Caliphate centered in Baghdad as far as I remember, but the Roman reconquest would certainly happen during the reign of Alexios.

We still need to decide the exact borders though.

[Tracian Empire]

The part about the Roman-Sassanian War is good - the war was pretty much pointless anyway - so it ending early wouldn't be much of an issue - but the end should be the same - the Romans regaining their lost territories, their captured soldiers, and the relics that were taken from Jerusalem, including the True Cross.

The war indemnity that was paid in real life doesn't really matter.

As for Mesopotamia - we should certainly discuss the rest with the Arabian player too - there was a Caliphate centered in Baghdad as far as I remember, but the Roman reconquest would certainly happen during the reign of Alexios.

We still need to decide the exact borders though.

This looks good, I'll have it added on the next update of the map

[Plzen]

I trust that eventually somebody will write an IC post.

[Tracian Empire]

I trust that eventually somebody will write an IC post.

Well, the roleplay isn't going anywhere. We will remove the inactive players, but it's not easy.

Exil as an example will be gone for another week, away from internet, but he will return after that.

So instead of just removing inactive players, we normally try to find out if they have a reason for their inactivity.

[Pasong Tirad]

Still here. Just taking a while with the post. Had to do a lot more reading than I thought I did, plus I'm kind of trying to plot out what I'll be doing for the next few posts, as it's mostly internal stuff.

[Tracian Empire]

Still here. Just taking a while with the post. Had to do a lot more reading than I thought I did, plus I'm kind of trying to plot out what I'll be doing for the next few posts, as it's mostly internal stuff.

Well, if you're looking for some interactions, you have the ERE and the Caliphate, and potentially also Persia once it's ready.

[Raetia Secunda]

WIP:

Full Nation Name : Kingdom of Kiziqal [آلِ کزیقآله] / State of Persia and Khorasan (the first name refers to the ruling dynasty and their governance, the second to the physical realm they rule) [مملکت ایران و خراسان] (new script to follow later hopefully)
Majority/Official Culture : Persian (though of an ethnic composition very different to antiquity)
Territorial Core : Modern day Iran, southern Mesopotamia and western bits of Turkmenistan (Image)
Territorial Claim : Mesopotamia
Capital City : Shenāriyah (modern day Hamedān)
Population : 21 million

Government Type : Absolute monarchy.
Government Ideology/Policies : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Militant, Imperialist, Expansionist, etc.]]
Government Focus : At all times the government's main focus is security, both from without in the form of relations with neighbours, and from within, with possibilities of civil uprisings from minorities or those frustrated with the archaic political system. In addition all kings are heavily involved in promoting religious agendas, which helps keep at least Marcionites loyal to the monarchy that is so closely tied to religion. This also usually involves oppressive agenda regarding religious minorities, with nearly every king engaging in efforts to rid the kingdom of other denominations of Christians. The Karaites also pose problems, though their large population as well as their dense concentration means they must be tolerated, with the King appointing an Exilarch in Rayy to ensure they are bound to the state apparatus.
Head of State : King Lūqās IV Shovekh, Elect of God, Guardian of the Faith, King of kings of Persia and the Four Corners of the World
Head of Government : Prime Minister Marqos Simeonayyād (appointed as leader of the Royal Council), Patriarch Yahanan of Babylon (leader of the Marcionite Church, and de facto second most powerful man in Persia), Judge Filipos Bishapurād (chief judge of the Court of the Lord).
Government Description : Absolute monarchy with devolved governance. At a city and regional area, each district is run by an elected (albeit weighted with a three-class franchise) council, which sends a Representative to the Royal Council in Shenāriyah. On paper, the Royal Council is what the label says - an advisory body for the autocratic monarch. However in recent years, the Council has assumed an important role of curbing excessive ambitions of a monarch as well as maintaining order in the army and policing forces, both giving scope as well as restraining the King. In addition the (unelected) Court of the Lord, purported as a purely jurisdictive body, exercise much power in how it interprets both religious and temporal legislation. The membership of the Court is composed of nobles primarily from the Zagros, with seats inherited.

Majority/State Religion : Marcionism (essentially the dualist Christian heresy that rejects the Old Testament and any connection between the God of Israel and the new god of Christianity)
Religious Description : Marcionism was imposed by a new dynasty in fifteenth century, though it had a substantial number of adherents before that point. The hierarchy of the Marcionite Church is based in Shenāriyah, with the King serving as Guardian of the Faith and Elect of God. In addition, the King, together with the small Assemblage of the Lord, chooses the Patriarch of the Marcionite Church, known as the "Patriarch of Babylon". This has meant that the Marcionite religion is used as a tool by government and adds an extra emphasis to obeying its orders.
The population of the Kiziqal kingdom is, however, not just Marcionites. There is a large Karaite Jewish minority, particularly in Khorasan and the Elborz. The Karaite Tabernacle in Rayy is of great importance to the international Karaite community, which includes many Karaites in northern Mesopotamia, the Caucasus and the Crimea. In addition there are a small number of other Christian sects in all areas as well as pagan groups in parts of Baluchistan and Hyrcania.

Economic Ideologies : Capitalism. The government lacks the means to control the economy to any great extent, though exprts to neighbouring states can be controlled to an extent.
Major Production : Small manufactured goods, particularly textiles (mostly for local production), cereals and other agricultural goods (including cotton); livestock and their products, including wool and leather; petrochemicals (not developed yet but the idea is under work)
Economic Description : The bulk of economic activity in Persia revolves around city bazaars and traders who transport goods from region to region; hardly the large-scale economy of a developed country. The main exports are agricultural - cereals and other foodstuffs are mostly grown in the Caspian regions, with small areas of the Zagros capable of large scale agriculture. Cotton is grown extensively in Khorasan and represents a more valuable export. The Zagros and Fars is more valuable for the extensive animal husbandry possible, supplying meat wool and leather; in addition Persia is internationally renown for its well-bred sturdy horses.
The future of the Persian economy lies in petroleum. However few in Shenāriyah have an inkling of how valuable and important this sector will be thus any plans to get it off the ground - of which there are - haven't met breakthrough yet.

Development: Persia is an early transitional society. [what sort of categories are meant?]
Development Description : The economic situation overall is primitive. Industry is developing in southern Mesopotamia around the Gulf, though the economy in general remains much as it was a century ago. The petroleum industry is developing to the extent in that it may take off in the duration of the RP. The government is also making an effort to develop shipping in the Gulf to further afield. Less effort has been made in Caspian shipping, the local states less lucrative or encouraging.


Army Description : The Persian army is made up of two components: the modernized infantry of the King, the Nezam-e Jadid , approx. 70,000; and the 20,000 irregular cavalry loyal to the King. Tribal militias add up to approx. 30,000 troops, though not modernized. Given enough time, the Persians can mobilize a formidable army. The problem lies in mobilizing it fast enough. Each region must supply soldiers proportional to its population and must have a fraction of those actively serving at any one time. Units are combined together according to religion, with Karaites serving under almost separate command until the highest echelons. The army is armed with relatively modern rifles, though there aren't enough to arm the fully mobilised army.
Army Weakness : Speed of mobilisation, lack of rigorous command structure
Naval Description : Until very recently non-existent, Persia has developed a small navy on both of its seas. A small fleet of 15 cruisers ply the Caspian, while a larger group of 25 cruisers and 10 frigates have just been completed on the Gulf, reflecting the growing interest of the government in the security of the Gulf border.
Naval Weakness : Its small size, as well as its being behind the cutting edge of naval technology
Further Military Description : [[OPTIONAL]]

National Goals : Advance economy while retaining the current political situation, bolster the Marcionite dominance of religious life. Regarding foreign policy, the ERE is a challenge in a religious sense, encouraging the other sects of Christians to assume their continued undisturbed existence. Otherwise, the main security issues come from Afghans and Baluchis on the eastern border as well as from Russians in the Oxus valley threatening Khorasan.
National Issues : Religious differences: the motto is "make all people Christian and make all Christian Marcionites".
National Figures of Interest : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Are there any Mother Teresas or Moses that we need to know about?]]
National Ambition/Aspirations : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Not really a set objective, but rather the big picture that your nation is drawing towards]]

History : Hordes of Turkic invaders migrate into Persia, slowly destroying the Sassanids until its formal end in 834 CE. Much political fragmentation until approx. 1100-1200. Major state for a while is a Bulgar-ruled empire ruled from Rayy, which converts to Karaite Judaism in 981. Current Kiziqal kings from 1587. (Details to follow, more fleshing out)

The great Roman-Persian War of the seventh century ended early in December 627, with Khosrow II making peace with Heraclius at Nineveh with a treaty settling the conflict uti possidetis. This led to minor uprisings against Khosrow II, which he managed to survive through. A much greater problem faced the Sassanians in the form of the Arab invasion of Mesopotamia in 633. Betrayed by his son Kavadh, who had him murdered in Ctesiphon, the Arabs succeeded in driving the Sassanians out of their capital and the whole of Mesoptamia by 635. Relocating to the Zagros, the embattled Sassanian rulers never mustered the power to retake Mesopotamia, even as the Arabs struggled against their Roman adversaries to the north and west.
The Sassanian hold over Persia began to end from the early eighth century, when steppe invaders first conquered Khorasan and then chunks of the central Iranian plateau. Losing the Elborz and finally Fars in 762, the Sassanians continued ruling in their small kingdom in the Zagros for another three generations before their final destruction by a Bulgar-led alliance in 834.
Persia remained politically and culturally fragmented for approximately two centuries. Khorasan and the plateau was populated by various Turkic groups originating from the Eurasian steppe, while the Zagros was an ethnic salad of Persians and various groups displaced from the Arab conquest of Mesopotamia. Many Zoroastrians as well as Christians emigrated from Mesopotamia during a series of religious oppressions initiated by the Mesopotamian Arab rulers in the late ninth century.
The northern areas of Iran became the most important in the tenth century, with the rise of a Bulgar empire based in the Elborz. After inheriting the khanate founded by his father Arslan in Rayy in 801, the Bulgar khan Alatcek led the alliance responsible for the destruction of the Sassanian state, the greater part of which he annexed to his kingdom. His sons partitioned the kingdom after his death, going on to independently conquer Khuzestan, Fars, Ardalan and parts of Aturpatakan (Azerbaijan), before both kingdoms were eventually inherited by Alatcek's great granddaughter Tekhhila Khanum. The first of the Turkic monarchs to adopt Persian traditions and outlook, Tekhhila crowned herself Shahanshah and made Persian the language of the court at Rayy. She also fought a number of wars with the Mesopotamian Arab kingdom, though never succeeded in conquering any territory. Tekhhila was responsible for strengthening the Bulgar state and giving it a Persian legitimacy. She was succeeded by her first cousin and consort Kivghar in 980. Kivghar completed her work by establishing a religion for the fledgling state. Influenced by the Karaite Jews of Hyrcania, which Tekhhila had annexed in 963, Kivghar converted with his court to Karaite Judaism, with much of the nearby population following over the years.
This glorious period of the Kivgharids lasted until approximately 1300, in which Karaite Judaism spread unevenly across Persia and Khorasan, inevitably following where Kivgharid power extended. During much of the late twelfth century and early thirteenth century steppe invaders weakened the Kivgharid state and eventually reduced it to its stronghold of the Alborz and Azerbaijan, which dissolved in 1342 with the death of the last heir of the throne Aaron VI and the breaking out of civil war. During this time various Christian statelets established themselves in the western half of Persia, the largest being Orkoe in southern Mesopotamia, based near ancient Uruk, which successively defended itself against the Caliphate of Baghdad in 1109. By 1300 the main powers were Orkoe, Hamadan and Susa; together with a number of other statelets Hamadan was the main beneficiary of the Kivgharid collapse.
...
The Kiziqal dynasty, of Khitan descent, first came to power in Tavrēš (modern Tabriz) in Aturpatakan in 1501. By then Hamadan controlled much of the northern Zagros and Alborz and, crucially, had converted to Marcionite Christianity in 1454. King Yelu-Shashta Kiziqali conquered Hamadan in 1587 after a succession dispute, creating the largest state seen in Persia since the Kivgharid period. Converting to Marcionism, Yelu-Shashta added a new religious fervour to the monarchy, providing justification for the wars of conquest of his sons, uniting Persia by 1623 with the conquest of Khorasan. Despite two civil wars, three Karaite uprisings and one foreign invasion (the Afghans in the 1780's), the Kiziqal state survived until the dawn of the twentieth century, using its unique methods of religious backing and balancing of regional interests.
RP Sample: I'm Pless, if anyone remembers

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Unfortunately other concerns mean I can't commit to being active on IC. I hope someone else will be able to pick up from where I've left off on my app. Very sorry

[Narintia]

Reservation

Nation Name: The United Nine Provinces of Amerika
Territory:
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*Note: Reservations will last for 72 hours. The OP board reserves the right to be subjective in regards to accepting reservations.

[Raetia Secunda]

WIP:

Full Nation Name : Kingdom of Kiziqal [آلِ کزیقآله] / State of Persia and Khorasan (the first name refers to the ruling dynasty and their governance, the second to the physical realm they rule) [مملکت ایران و خراسان] (new script to follow later hopefully)
Majority/Official Culture : Persian (though of an ethnic composition very different to antiquity)
Territorial Core : Modern day Iran, southern Mesopotamia and western bits of Turkmenistan (Image)
Territorial Claim : Mesopotamia
Capital City : Shenāriyah (modern day Hamedān)
Population : 21 million

Government Type : Absolute monarchy.
Government Ideology/Policies : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Militant, Imperialist, Expansionist, etc.]]
Government Focus : At all times the government's main focus is security, both from without in the form of relations with neighbours, and from within, with possibilities of civil uprisings from minorities or those frustrated with the archaic political system. In addition all kings are heavily involved in promoting religious agendas, which helps keep at least Marcionites loyal to the monarchy that is so closely tied to religion. This also usually involves oppressive agenda regarding religious minorities, with nearly every king engaging in efforts to rid the kingdom of other denominations of Christians. The Karaites also pose problems, though their large population as well as their dense concentration means they must be tolerated, with the King appointing an Exilarch in Rayy to ensure they are bound to the state apparatus.
Head of State : King Lūqās IV Shovekh, Elect of God, Guardian of the Faith, King of kings of Persia and the Four Corners of the World
Head of Government : Prime Minister Marqos Simeonayyād (appointed as leader of the Royal Council), Patriarch Yahanan of Babylon (leader of the Marcionite Church, and de facto second most powerful man in Persia), Judge Filipos Bishapurād (chief judge of the Court of the Lord).
Government Description : Absolute monarchy with devolved governance. At a city and regional area, each district is run by an elected (albeit weighted with a three-class franchise) council, which sends a Representative to the Royal Council in Shenāriyah. On paper, the Royal Council is what the label says - an advisory body for the autocratic monarch. However in recent years, the Council has assumed an important role of curbing excessive ambitions of a monarch as well as maintaining order in the army and policing forces, both giving scope as well as restraining the King. In addition the (unelected) Court of the Lord, purported as a purely jurisdictive body, exercise much power in how it interprets both religious and temporal legislation. The membership of the Court is composed of nobles primarily from the Zagros, with seats inherited.

Majority/State Religion : Marcionism (essentially the dualist Christian heresy that rejects the Old Testament and any connection between the God of Israel and the new god of Christianity)
Religious Description : Marcionism was imposed by a new dynasty in fifteenth century, though it had a substantial number of adherents before that point. The hierarchy of the Marcionite Church is based in Shenāriyah, with the King serving as Guardian of the Faith and Elect of God. In addition, the King, together with the small Assemblage of the Lord, chooses the Patriarch of the Marcionite Church, known as the "Patriarch of Babylon". This has meant that the Marcionite religion is used as a tool by government and adds an extra emphasis to obeying its orders.
The population of the Kiziqal kingdom is, however, not just Marcionites. There is a large Karaite Jewish minority, particularly in Khorasan and the Elborz. The Karaite Tabernacle in Rayy is of great importance to the international Karaite community, which includes many Karaites in northern Mesopotamia, the Caucasus and the Crimea. In addition there are a small number of other Christian sects in all areas as well as pagan groups in parts of Baluchistan and Hyrcania.

Economic Ideologies : Capitalism. The government lacks the means to control the economy to any great extent, though exprts to neighbouring states can be controlled to an extent.
Major Production : Small manufactured goods, particularly textiles (mostly for local production), cereals and other agricultural goods (including cotton); livestock and their products, including wool and leather; petrochemicals (not developed yet but the idea is under work)
Economic Description : The bulk of economic activity in Persia revolves around city bazaars and traders who transport goods from region to region; hardly the large-scale economy of a developed country. The main exports are agricultural - cereals and other foodstuffs are mostly grown in the Caspian regions, with small areas of the Zagros capable of large scale agriculture. Cotton is grown extensively in Khorasan and represents a more valuable export. The Zagros and Fars is more valuable for the extensive animal husbandry possible, supplying meat wool and leather; in addition Persia is internationally renown for its well-bred sturdy horses.
The future of the Persian economy lies in petroleum. However few in Shenāriyah have an inkling of how valuable and important this sector will be thus any plans to get it off the ground - of which there are - haven't met breakthrough yet.

Development: Persia is an early transitional society. [what sort of categories are meant?]
Development Description : The economic situation overall is primitive. Industry is developing in southern Mesopotamia around the Gulf, though the economy in general remains much as it was a century ago. The petroleum industry is developing to the extent in that it may take off in the duration of the RP. The government is also making an effort to develop shipping in the Gulf to further afield. Less effort has been made in Caspian shipping, the local states less lucrative or encouraging.


Army Description : The Persian army is made up of two components: the modernized infantry of the King, the Nezam-e Jadid , approx. 70,000; and the 20,000 irregular cavalry loyal to the King. Tribal militias add up to approx. 30,000 troops, though not modernized. Given enough time, the Persians can mobilize a formidable army. The problem lies in mobilizing it fast enough. Each region must supply soldiers proportional to its population and must have a fraction of those actively serving at any one time. Units are combined together according to religion, with Karaites serving under almost separate command until the highest echelons. The army is armed with relatively modern rifles, though there aren't enough to arm the fully mobilised army.
Army Weakness : Speed of mobilisation, lack of rigorous command structure
Naval Description : Until very recently non-existent, Persia has developed a small navy on both of its seas. A small fleet of 15 cruisers ply the Caspian, while a larger group of 25 cruisers and 10 frigates have just been completed on the Gulf, reflecting the growing interest of the government in the security of the Gulf border.
Naval Weakness : Its small size, as well as its being behind the cutting edge of naval technology
Further Military Description : [[OPTIONAL]]

National Goals : Advance economy while retaining the current political situation, bolster the Marcionite dominance of religious life. Regarding foreign policy, the ERE is a challenge in a religious sense, encouraging the other sects of Christians to assume their continued undisturbed existence. Otherwise, the main security issues come from Afghans and Baluchis on the eastern border as well as from Russians in the Oxus valley threatening Khorasan.
National Issues : Religious differences: the motto is "make all people Christian and make all Christian Marcionites".
National Figures of Interest : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Are there any Mother Teresas or Moses that we need to know about?]]
National Ambition/Aspirations : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Not really a set objective, but rather the big picture that your nation is drawing towards]]

History : Hordes of Turkic invaders migrate into Persia, slowly destroying the Sassanids until its formal end in 834 CE. Much political fragmentation until approx. 1100-1200. Major state for a while is a Bulgar-ruled empire ruled from Rayy, which converts to Karaite Judaism in 981. Current Kiziqal kings from 1587. (Details to follow, more fleshing out)

The great Roman-Persian War of the seventh century ended early in December 627, with Khosrow II making peace with Heraclius at Nineveh with a treaty settling the conflict uti possidetis. This led to minor uprisings against Khosrow II, which he managed to survive through. A much greater problem faced the Sassanians in the form of the Arab invasion of Mesopotamia in 633. Betrayed by his son Kavadh, who had him murdered in Ctesiphon, the Arabs succeeded in driving the Sassanians out of their capital and the whole of Mesoptamia by 635. Relocating to the Zagros, the embattled Sassanian rulers never mustered the power to retake Mesopotamia, even as the Arabs struggled against their Roman adversaries to the north and west.
The Sassanian hold over Persia began to end from the early eighth century, when steppe invaders first conquered Khorasan and then chunks of the central Iranian plateau. Losing the Elborz and finally Fars in 762, the Sassanians continued ruling in their small kingdom in the Zagros for another three generations before their final destruction by a Bulgar-led alliance in 834.
Persia remained politically and culturally fragmented for approximately two centuries. Khorasan and the plateau was populated by various Turkic groups originating from the Eurasian steppe, while the Zagros was an ethnic salad of Persians and various groups displaced from the Arab conquest of Mesopotamia. Many Zoroastrians as well as Christians emigrated from Mesopotamia during a series of religious oppressions initiated by the Mesopotamian Arab rulers in the late ninth century.
The northern areas of Iran became the most important in the tenth century, with the rise of a Bulgar empire based in the Elborz. After inheriting the khanate founded by his father Arslan in Rayy in 801, the Bulgar khan Alatcek led the alliance responsible for the destruction of the Sassanian state, the greater part of which he annexed to his kingdom. His sons partitioned the kingdom after his death, going on to independently conquer Khuzestan, Fars, Ardalan and parts of Aturpatakan (Azerbaijan), before both kingdoms were eventually inherited by Alatcek's great granddaughter Tekhhila Khanum. The first of the Turkic monarchs to adopt Persian traditions and outlook, Tekhhila crowned herself Shahanshah and made Persian the language of the court at Rayy. She also fought a number of wars with the Mesopotamian Arab kingdom, though never succeeded in conquering any territory. Tekhhila was responsible for strengthening the Bulgar state and giving it a Persian legitimacy. She was succeeded by her first cousin and consort Kivghar in 980. Kivghar completed her work by establishing a religion for the fledgling state. Influenced by the Karaite Jews of Hyrcania, which Tekhhila had annexed in 963, Kivghar converted with his court to Karaite Judaism, with much of the nearby population following over the years.
This glorious period of the Kivgharids lasted until approximately 1300, in which Karaite Judaism spread unevenly across Persia and Khorasan, inevitably following where Kivgharid power extended. During much of the late twelfth century and early thirteenth century steppe invaders weakened the Kivgharid state and eventually reduced it to its stronghold of the Alborz and Azerbaijan, which dissolved in 1342 with the death of the last heir of the throne Aaron VI and the breaking out of civil war. During this time various Christian statelets established themselves in the western half of Persia, the largest being Orkoe in southern Mesopotamia, based near ancient Uruk, which successively defended itself against the Caliphate of Baghdad in 1109. By 1300 the main powers were Orkoe, Hamadan and Susa; together with a number of other statelets Hamadan was the main beneficiary of the Kivgharid collapse.
...
The Kiziqal dynasty, of Khitan descent, first came to power in Tavrēš (modern Tabriz) in Aturpatakan in 1501. By then Hamadan controlled much of the northern Zagros and Alborz and, crucially, had converted to Marcionite Christianity in 1454. King Yelu-Shashta Kiziqali conquered Hamadan in 1587 after a succession dispute, creating the largest state seen in Persia since the Kivgharid period. Converting to Marcionism, Yelu-Shashta added a new religious fervour to the monarchy, providing justification for the wars of conquest of his sons, uniting Persia by 1623 with the conquest of Khorasan. Despite two civil wars, three Karaite uprisings and one foreign invasion (the Afghans in the 1780's), the Kiziqal state survived until the dawn of the twentieth century, using its unique methods of religious backing and balancing of regional interests.
RP Sample: I'm Pless, if anyone remembers

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After a fortunate change in circumstances I should be able to continue with the RP will an OP be able to review my app? I'll try fill out the optional sections later but would like to get to the IC quickly.

[Tracian Empire]

WIP:

Full Nation Name : Kingdom of Kiziqal [آلِ کزیقآله] / State of Persia and Khorasan (the first name refers to the ruling dynasty and their governance, the second to the physical realm they rule) [مملکت ایران و خراسان] (new script to follow later hopefully)
Majority/Official Culture : Persian (though of an ethnic composition very different to antiquity)
Territorial Core : Modern day Iran, southern Mesopotamia and western bits of Turkmenistan (Image)
Territorial Claim : Mesopotamia
Capital City : Shenāriyah (modern day Hamedān)
Population : 21 million

Government Type : Absolute monarchy.
Government Ideology/Policies : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Militant, Imperialist, Expansionist, etc.]]
Government Focus : At all times the government's main focus is security, both from without in the form of relations with neighbours, and from within, with possibilities of civil uprisings from minorities or those frustrated with the archaic political system. In addition all kings are heavily involved in promoting religious agendas, which helps keep at least Marcionites loyal to the monarchy that is so closely tied to religion. This also usually involves oppressive agenda regarding religious minorities, with nearly every king engaging in efforts to rid the kingdom of other denominations of Christians. The Karaites also pose problems, though their large population as well as their dense concentration means they must be tolerated, with the King appointing an Exilarch in Rayy to ensure they are bound to the state apparatus.
Head of State : King Lūqās IV Shovekh, Elect of God, Guardian of the Faith, King of kings of Persia and the Four Corners of the World
Head of Government : Prime Minister Marqos Simeonayyād (appointed as leader of the Royal Council), Patriarch Yahanan of Babylon (leader of the Marcionite Church, and de facto second most powerful man in Persia), Judge Filipos Bishapurād (chief judge of the Court of the Lord).
Government Description : Absolute monarchy with devolved governance. At a city and regional area, each district is run by an elected (albeit weighted with a three-class franchise) council, which sends a Representative to the Royal Council in Shenāriyah. On paper, the Royal Council is what the label says - an advisory body for the autocratic monarch. However in recent years, the Council has assumed an important role of curbing excessive ambitions of a monarch as well as maintaining order in the army and policing forces, both giving scope as well as restraining the King. In addition the (unelected) Court of the Lord, purported as a purely jurisdictive body, exercise much power in how it interprets both religious and temporal legislation. The membership of the Court is composed of nobles primarily from the Zagros, with seats inherited.

Majority/State Religion : Marcionism (essentially the dualist Christian heresy that rejects the Old Testament and any connection between the God of Israel and the new god of Christianity)
Religious Description : Marcionism was imposed by a new dynasty in fifteenth century, though it had a substantial number of adherents before that point. The hierarchy of the Marcionite Church is based in Shenāriyah, with the King serving as Guardian of the Faith and Elect of God. In addition, the King, together with the small Assemblage of the Lord, chooses the Patriarch of the Marcionite Church, known as the "Patriarch of Babylon". This has meant that the Marcionite religion is used as a tool by government and adds an extra emphasis to obeying its orders.
The population of the Kiziqal kingdom is, however, not just Marcionites. There is a large Karaite Jewish minority, particularly in Khorasan and the Elborz. The Karaite Tabernacle in Rayy is of great importance to the international Karaite community, which includes many Karaites in northern Mesopotamia, the Caucasus and the Crimea. In addition there are a small number of other Christian sects in all areas as well as pagan groups in parts of Baluchistan and Hyrcania.

Economic Ideologies : Capitalism. The government lacks the means to control the economy to any great extent, though exprts to neighbouring states can be controlled to an extent.
Major Production : Small manufactured goods, particularly textiles (mostly for local production), cereals and other agricultural goods (including cotton); livestock and their products, including wool and leather; petrochemicals (not developed yet but the idea is under work)
Economic Description : The bulk of economic activity in Persia revolves around city bazaars and traders who transport goods from region to region; hardly the large-scale economy of a developed country. The main exports are agricultural - cereals and other foodstuffs are mostly grown in the Caspian regions, with small areas of the Zagros capable of large scale agriculture. Cotton is grown extensively in Khorasan and represents a more valuable export. The Zagros and Fars is more valuable for the extensive animal husbandry possible, supplying meat wool and leather; in addition Persia is internationally renown for its well-bred sturdy horses.
The future of the Persian economy lies in petroleum. However few in Shenāriyah have an inkling of how valuable and important this sector will be thus any plans to get it off the ground - of which there are - haven't met breakthrough yet.

Development: Persia is an early transitional society. [what sort of categories are meant?]
Development Description : The economic situation overall is primitive. Industry is developing in southern Mesopotamia around the Gulf, though the economy in general remains much as it was a century ago. The petroleum industry is developing to the extent in that it may take off in the duration of the RP. The government is also making an effort to develop shipping in the Gulf to further afield. Less effort has been made in Caspian shipping, the local states less lucrative or encouraging.


Army Description : The Persian army is made up of two components: the modernized infantry of the King, the Nezam-e Jadid , approx. 70,000; and the 20,000 irregular cavalry loyal to the King. Tribal militias add up to approx. 30,000 troops, though not modernized. Given enough time, the Persians can mobilize a formidable army. The problem lies in mobilizing it fast enough. Each region must supply soldiers proportional to its population and must have a fraction of those actively serving at any one time. Units are combined together according to religion, with Karaites serving under almost separate command until the highest echelons. The army is armed with relatively modern rifles, though there aren't enough to arm the fully mobilised army.
Army Weakness : Speed of mobilisation, lack of rigorous command structure
Naval Description : Until very recently non-existent, Persia has developed a small navy on both of its seas. A small fleet of 15 cruisers ply the Caspian, while a larger group of 25 cruisers and 10 frigates have just been completed on the Gulf, reflecting the growing interest of the government in the security of the Gulf border.
Naval Weakness : Its small size, as well as its being behind the cutting edge of naval technology
Further Military Description : [[OPTIONAL]]

National Goals : Advance economy while retaining the current political situation, bolster the Marcionite dominance of religious life. Regarding foreign policy, the ERE is a challenge in a religious sense, encouraging the other sects of Christians to assume their continued undisturbed existence. Otherwise, the main security issues come from Afghans and Baluchis on the eastern border as well as from Russians in the Oxus valley threatening Khorasan.
National Issues : Religious differences: the motto is "make all people Christian and make all Christian Marcionites".
National Figures of Interest : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Are there any Mother Teresas or Moses that we need to know about?]]
National Ambition/Aspirations : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Not really a set objective, but rather the big picture that your nation is drawing towards]]

History : Hordes of Turkic invaders migrate into Persia, slowly destroying the Sassanids until its formal end in 834 CE. Much political fragmentation until approx. 1100-1200. Major state for a while is a Bulgar-ruled empire ruled from Rayy, which converts to Karaite Judaism in 981. Current Kiziqal kings from 1587. (Details to follow, more fleshing out)

The great Roman-Persian War of the seventh century ended early in December 627, with Khosrow II making peace with Heraclius at Nineveh with a treaty settling the conflict uti possidetis. This led to minor uprisings against Khosrow II, which he managed to survive through. A much greater problem faced the Sassanians in the form of the Arab invasion of Mesopotamia in 633. Betrayed by his son Kavadh, who had him murdered in Ctesiphon, the Arabs succeeded in driving the Sassanians out of their capital and the whole of Mesoptamia by 635. Relocating to the Zagros, the embattled Sassanian rulers never mustered the power to retake Mesopotamia, even as the Arabs struggled against their Roman adversaries to the north and west.
The Sassanian hold over Persia began to end from the early eighth century, when steppe invaders first conquered Khorasan and then chunks of the central Iranian plateau. Losing the Elborz and finally Fars in 762, the Sassanians continued ruling in their small kingdom in the Zagros for another three generations before their final destruction by a Bulgar-led alliance in 834.
Persia remained politically and culturally fragmented for approximately two centuries. Khorasan and the plateau was populated by various Turkic groups originating from the Eurasian steppe, while the Zagros was an ethnic salad of Persians and various groups displaced from the Arab conquest of Mesopotamia. Many Zoroastrians as well as Christians emigrated from Mesopotamia during a series of religious oppressions initiated by the Mesopotamian Arab rulers in the late ninth century.
The northern areas of Iran became the most important in the tenth century, with the rise of a Bulgar empire based in the Elborz. After inheriting the khanate founded by his father Arslan in Rayy in 801, the Bulgar khan Alatcek led the alliance responsible for the destruction of the Sassanian state, the greater part of which he annexed to his kingdom. His sons partitioned the kingdom after his death, going on to independently conquer Khuzestan, Fars, Ardalan and parts of Aturpatakan (Azerbaijan), before both kingdoms were eventually inherited by Alatcek's great granddaughter Tekhhila Khanum. The first of the Turkic monarchs to adopt Persian traditions and outlook, Tekhhila crowned herself Shahanshah and made Persian the language of the court at Rayy. She also fought a number of wars with the Mesopotamian Arab kingdom, though never succeeded in conquering any territory. Tekhhila was responsible for strengthening the Bulgar state and giving it a Persian legitimacy. She was succeeded by her first cousin and consort Kivghar in 980. Kivghar completed her work by establishing a religion for the fledgling state. Influenced by the Karaite Jews of Hyrcania, which Tekhhila had annexed in 963, Kivghar converted with his court to Karaite Judaism, with much of the nearby population following over the years.
This glorious period of the Kivgharids lasted until approximately 1300, in which Karaite Judaism spread unevenly across Persia and Khorasan, inevitably following where Kivgharid power extended. During much of the late twelfth century and early thirteenth century steppe invaders weakened the Kivgharid state and eventually reduced it to its stronghold of the Alborz and Azerbaijan, which dissolved in 1342 with the death of the last heir of the throne Aaron VI and the breaking out of civil war. During this time various Christian statelets established themselves in the western half of Persia, the largest being Orkoe in southern Mesopotamia, based near ancient Uruk, which successively defended itself against the Caliphate of Baghdad in 1109. By 1300 the main powers were Orkoe, Hamadan and Susa; together with a number of other statelets Hamadan was the main beneficiary of the Kivgharid collapse.
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The Kiziqal dynasty, of Khitan descent, first came to power in Tavrēš (modern Tabriz) in Aturpatakan in 1501. By then Hamadan controlled much of the northern Zagros and Alborz and, crucially, had converted to Marcionite Christianity in 1454. King Yelu-Shashta Kiziqali conquered Hamadan in 1587 after a succession dispute, creating the largest state seen in Persia since the Kivgharid period. Converting to Marcionism, Yelu-Shashta added a new religious fervour to the monarchy, providing justification for the wars of conquest of his sons, uniting Persia by 1623 with the conquest of Khorasan. Despite two civil wars, three Karaite uprisings and one foreign invasion (the Afghans in the 1780's), the Kiziqal state survived until the dawn of the twentieth century, using its unique methods of religious backing and balancing of regional interests.
RP Sample: I'm Pless, if anyone remembers

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After a fortunate change in circumstances I should be able to continue will an OP be able to review my app? I'll try fill out the optional sections later but would like to get to the IC quickly.

I've honestly thought about how I could convince you to at least try to join this xD
I'll review it soon!

[Tracian Empire]

Kingdom of Kiziqal [آلِ کزیقآله] / State of Persia and Khorasan [مملکت ایران و خراسان]

The app overall looks alright - someone will probably take a second look at it soon, but I have to mention a thing:

The population of the Kiziqal kingdom is, however, not just Marcionites. There is a large Karaite Jewish minority, particularly in Khorasan and the Elborz. The Karaite Tabernacle in Rayy is of great importance to the international Karaite community, which includes many Karaites in northern Mesopotamia, the Caucasus and the Crimea. In addition there are a small number of other Christian sects in all areas as well as pagan groups in parts of Baluchistan and Hyrcania.

Now, there would certainly be a significant Jewish minority inside of the ERE. Both a historical one, especially in certain areas, and one that is more recent in nature - it's still early, but there probably are Jews moving back to Palestine. There are other minorities in many other parts of the empire, but we need to take into account the historical differences. It's been a basic policy of the Roman Empire for nearly a thousand years now - that you have to be a Christian citizen in order to be a Roman citizen in the East - Orthodox, or sometimes, Catholics will also be tolerated. Now, while the Roman state is certainly not opressing most of those religious and ethnic minorities, it is trying to Romanize/Hellenize them, and it has been doing that for a long time.

So in this case, I do have to bring a simple example - that of Taurica, or well, Crimea. It has been Roman for a long while and it serves as an important part of the Roman territorial core - it is ethnically Roman in its majority and the Crimean Karaites wouldn't exist as a group.

That's what I had to say - the rest of the app looks alright. The history seems good to me, even if I'm not an expert on the region, and we did discuss the Roman part of it. The army is alright and is realistic, though you should probably add a line or two about its equipment and tactics.

And as for the development system - the categories were right there in the paranthesis - [Modern, Semi-Industrialized, or Primitive] - it's a relatively simple system, designed to replace the earlier centers of modernization system. Persia seems to be somewhere within Primitive and Semi-Industrialized judging by your explanation, but you should add that.

[Raetia Secunda]

Kingdom of Kiziqal [آلِ کزیقآله] / State of Persia and Khorasan [مملکت ایران و خراسان]

The app overall looks alright - someone will probably take a second look at it soon, but I have to mention a thing:

The population of the Kiziqal kingdom is, however, not just Marcionites. There is a large Karaite Jewish minority, particularly in Khorasan and the Elborz. The Karaite Tabernacle in Rayy is of great importance to the international Karaite community, which includes many Karaites in northern Mesopotamia, the Caucasus and the Crimea. In addition there are a small number of other Christian sects in all areas as well as pagan groups in parts of Baluchistan and Hyrcania.

Now, there would certainly be a significant Jewish minority inside of the ERE. Both a historical one, especially in certain areas, and one that is more recent in nature - it's still early, but there probably are Jews moving back to Palestine. There are other minorities in many other parts of the empire, but we need to take into account the historical differences. It's been a basic policy of the Roman Empire for nearly a thousand years now - that you have to be a Christian citizen in order to be a Roman citizen in the East - Orthodox, or sometimes, Catholics will also be tolerated. Now, while the Roman state is certainly not opressing most of those religious and ethnic minorities, it is trying to Romanize/Hellenize them, and it has been doing that for a long time.

So in this case, I do have to bring a simple example - that of Taurica, or well, Crimea. It has been Roman for a long while and it serves as an important part of the Roman territorial core - it is ethnically Roman in its majority and the Crimean Karaites wouldn't exist as a group.

That's what I had to say - the rest of the app looks alright. The history seems good to me, even if I'm not an expert on the region, and we did discuss the Roman part of it. The army is alright and is realistic, though you should probably add a line or two about its equipment and tactics.

And as for the development system - the categories were right there in the paranthesis - [Modern, Semi-Industrialized, or Primitive] - it's a relatively simple system, designed to replace the earlier centers of modernization system. Persia seems to be somewhere within Primitive and Semi-Industrialized judging by your explanation, but you should add that.

Thanks! Made changes in development and military. With the Karaite thing, I had intended that the Persian Karaites would have aid from other states where Diaspora Karaites are in the event of a serious persecution. More as a fifth column in Persia than in the ERE or Russia.

[Tracian Empire]

The app overall looks alright - someone will probably take a second look at it soon, but I have to mention a thing:


Now, there would certainly be a significant Jewish minority inside of the ERE. Both a historical one, especially in certain areas, and one that is more recent in nature - it's still early, but there probably are Jews moving back to Palestine. There are other minorities in many other parts of the empire, but we need to take into account the historical differences. It's been a basic policy of the Roman Empire for nearly a thousand years now - that you have to be a Christian citizen in order to be a Roman citizen in the East - Orthodox, or sometimes, Catholics will also be tolerated. Now, while the Roman state is certainly not opressing most of those religious and ethnic minorities, it is trying to Romanize/Hellenize them, and it has been doing that for a long time.

So in this case, I do have to bring a simple example - that of Taurica, or well, Crimea. It has been Roman for a long while and it serves as an important part of the Roman territorial core - it is ethnically Roman in its majority and the Crimean Karaites wouldn't exist as a group.

That's what I had to say - the rest of the app looks alright. The history seems good to me, even if I'm not an expert on the region, and we did discuss the Roman part of it. The army is alright and is realistic, though you should probably add a line or two about its equipment and tactics.

And as for the development system - the categories were right there in the paranthesis - [Modern, Semi-Industrialized, or Primitive] - it's a relatively simple system, designed to replace the earlier centers of modernization system. Persia seems to be somewhere within Primitive and Semi-Industrialized judging by your explanation, but you should add that.

Thanks! Made changes in development and military. With the Karaite thing, I had intended that the Persian Karaites would have aid from other states where Diaspora Karaites are in the event of a serious persecution. More as a fifth column in Persia than in the ERE or Russia.

Well, I'm not worried about a fifth colum or something like that - I just wanted to make sure that the presence of such minorities in the ERE would respect the historical changes - so this Karaite minority would be present in other regions.

[Raetia Secunda]

Thanks! Made changes in development and military. With the Karaite thing, I had intended that the Persian Karaites would have aid from other states where Diaspora Karaites are in the event of a serious persecution. More as a fifth column in Persia than in the ERE or Russia.

Well, I'm not worried about a fifth colum or something like that - I just wanted to make sure that the presence of such minorities in the ERE would respect the historical changes - so this Karaite minority would be present in other regions.

So likely by now any Karaite minority is more spread out and less loud than would otherwise be true? I suppose then the Russian minority would be more of an issue for Shenāriyah.
Am I accepted then? Fortunately we seem to be the most active part of the globe at the moment.

[Velahor]

Sorry about the huge app delay, I ran into some trouble setting up my history but it shouldn’t be long until it’s up.

[Tracian Empire]

Well, I'm not worried about a fifth colum or something like that - I just wanted to make sure that the presence of such minorities in the ERE would respect the historical changes - so this Karaite minority would be present in other regions.

So likely by now any Karaite minority is more spread out and less loud than would otherwise be true? I suppose then the Russian minority would be more of an issue for Shenāriyah.
Am I accepted then? Fortunately we seem to be the most active part of the globe at the moment.

I'm not sure about Persia - it's just that in the Roman Empire, religious and ethnic minorities are generally confined to the rural areas of provinces such as central Mesopotamia, Palestine, and parts of Egypt and Sudan.

The Kararites would certainly not be a big minority, even when combined with the other Jews. The Roman Empire hasn't exactly been a great target for Jewish immigrants, so groups like the Copts or the Assyrians would be bigger, but even so, the Romanization/Hellenization of the Roman Middle East has been pretty successful.

And yeah, you are accepted!

[Raetia Secunda]

So likely by now any Karaite minority is more spread out and less loud than would otherwise be true? I suppose then the Russian minority would be more of an issue for Shenāriyah.
Am I accepted then? Fortunately we seem to be the most active part of the globe at the moment.

I'm not sure about Persia - it's just that in the Roman Empire, religious and ethnic minorities are generally confined to the rural areas of provinces such as central Mesopotamia, Palestine, and parts of Egypt and Sudan.

The Kararites would certainly not be a big minority, even when combined with the other Jews. The Roman Empire hasn't exactly been a great target for Jewish immigrants, so groups like the Copts or the Assyrians would be bigger, but even so, the Romanization/Hellenization of the Roman Middle East has been pretty successful.

And yeah, you are accepted!

Thanks! I’ll try have an IC post up tonight. Maybe I’ll sneak in some crazy event to get everyone active

[Tracian Empire]

I'm not sure about Persia - it's just that in the Roman Empire, religious and ethnic minorities are generally confined to the rural areas of provinces such as central Mesopotamia, Palestine, and parts of Egypt and Sudan.

The Kararites would certainly not be a big minority, even when combined with the other Jews. The Roman Empire hasn't exactly been a great target for Jewish immigrants, so groups like the Copts or the Assyrians would be bigger, but even so, the Romanization/Hellenization of the Roman Middle East has been pretty successful.

And yeah, you are accepted!

Thanks! I’ll try have an IC post up tonight. Maybe I’ll sneak in some crazy event to get everyone active

The Romans will probably be pretty weary of Persia, though not in a necessarily hostile way

[Narintia]

Full Nation Name : The United Nine Provinces of Amerika
Majority/Official Culture : Dutch and English. [These culture groups have started to mix, but they still remain distinct.]
Territorial Core :

Territorial Claim : British Upper and Lower Canada, the modern day US great plains
Capital City : New Amsterdam [New York]
Population :

le note: I lowered the population of each state by 10%, because of the probability of less european immigrants to the United Nine Provinces.
New Netherland (New York + New Jersey): 7,268,894 + 1,883,669
Pennsylvania: 6,302,115
Illinois 4,821,550
Ohio: 4,157,545
Massachussets: 2,805,346
Indiana: 2,516,462
Georgia: 2,216,331
Kentucky: 2,147,174
Wisconsin2,069,042
Tennessee:2,020,616
Orange (North Carolina + South Carolina) : 1,893,810 + 1,340,316
Virginia: 1,854,184 + 958,800
Alabama:1,828,697
Mississippi:1,551,270
Maryland : 1,188,044
Connecticut: 908,420
Maine:694,466
Florida:528,542
Rhode Island: 428,556
New Frisia (New Hampshire): 411,588
Vermont:343,641
DC:278,718
Delaware:184,735
TOTAL: 52,602,531
rounded to 55 million because of probability of higher birthrate and more european immigration, as well as slavery lasting until 1878, and not 1865 like in our tl

Government Type : Federal Republic
Government Ideology/Policies : Republican, Expansionist
Government Focus : The government focus at this time is trying to keep the nation together. The English provinces of New England, Virginia and the Maritimes resent Dutch dominance within the United Nine Provinces, the French in the province of Canada wish for independence or even greater autonomy then they already have, and the Dutch ruled government wishes to centralize the nation. This also means that the National Senate can barely get things passed.
Head of State : National Protector Mathijs-Hendrik van der Weide
Head of Government : Prime Minister Jan Hazebroek
Government Description :
The United Nine Provinces is split up into nine provinces and four territories. The Provinces have rights akin to a US State, and are each presided over by an elected governer. The territories, however have even more autonomy, as they are meant to represent the cultural anomalies (Lower Canada for the French speakers of Quebec, Acadia for the Acadiens and Nova Scotia for the Celtics.) the Provinces get their rights from the Articles of Unification, while the territories get their rights from the Articles of Consitution. There are two major political parties, the 'Progessive League' a vaguely Dutch centrist progessive party, and the Reform Labor party, an Anglo centric conservative party. However, minority parties do exist, such as the Bloc Acadienne (a social democratic Acadian party) and the United Socialist Party, a newly formed political leftleaning party that unites English, Dutch and French peoples. The states are divided into departments, which each send one member of congress to the National Congress. The party with the most seats in the National Congress becomes the ruling party, and its leading member of congress becomes the Prime Minister. The National Protector is elected by the congress every five years, while the Prime Minister is elected every seven years.



Majority/State Religion : A split between Roman Catholicism, the Dutch Reformed Church and the Anglician Church.
Religious Description : [[OPTIONAL]]

Economic Ideologies : Capitalist
Major Production :
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Development: [Modern, Semi-Industrialized, or Primitive]
Development Description : [Explain further why your nation is in one of the above categories]

Army Description : [[Describe your nation's army in as much detail as you can]]
Army Weakness :
Naval Description : [[Describe your nation's navy in as much detail as you can]]
Naval Weakness :
Further Military Description : [[OPTIONAL]]

National Goals :
National Issues : [[what needs to be fixed in order for your nation to achieve its true potential]]
National Figures of Interest : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Are there any Mother Teresas or Moses that we need to know about?]]
National Ambition/Aspirations : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Not really a set objective, but rather the big picture that your nation is drawing towards]]

History : [[Can be in paragraph or bulletpoint timeline.]]
RP Sample: [[Either a link to a past post, or an example written right here.]]

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[Tracian Empire]

Hmm, I'm really not sure if the Romans would recognize the Persian leader as a Basileus.

Nice post though xD

And yeah, I would assume that the Orthodox Patriarch of Jerusalem would block Marcionites from having access to the important places there and to relics like the True Cross.