Age of Imperialism: A Colonization RP (Reboot, OOC, Open)

[Novas Arcanum]

I'd be surprised if the US supported communists. (This is alt-history though so maybe it's not has big has a boogeyman)

[Parcia]

Hainan, Taiwan, Luzon, the Yaeyama, Miyako, and Okinawa groups of the Ryukyus, the Northern Marianas, Micronesia, the Marshall Islands, Wake Island, the Hawaiian islands, Vancouver Island, Washington and Oregon west of the Cascades and California west of the Sierra Nevada as far south as Carlsbad)

Almost all of the land outside of China has been taken.

I would also like to point you would be fighting most of the population, which, granted, is little over a million, but that's a lot of people I can hand an old percussion gun to and tell them to fire when they see the Haitian invaders.

It is never true that someone has to fight most members of a population. For a start, most of the population is either too young or too old to fight. Then, the majority is untrained in the use of percussion rifles, and won't stand for a minute to face a regimented enemy volley. They would have to resort to guerrilla tactics, but that generally only has a nuisance factor, and won't beat an actual field army.



Then there is the fact that a population is never that unified about anything. Every nation has a myriad of political opinions, and some might not even object to foreign intervention if it is for the right reasons. Most people are not willing to fight and die for a cause, especially not when that cause seems lost.

That' s not the intention of the tactic, is he willing to wage a muli-year long guerrilla campaign against what seems like the hwo population?

The point of arming the people is to scare him in to thinking that hes fighting a force much larger then his own. I dont need them to fight like an army, nor stand up against a regimental barrage, that's what I have the regulars for. But how do you think his troops are going to respond when they manage to break in to Havana and find that their getting shot at from every window and door by civilian?

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

I'd be surprised if the US supported communists. (This is alt-history though so maybe it's not has big has a boogeyman)

Godless Commies need to be eradicated.

Hainan, Taiwan, Luzon, the Yaeyama, Miyako, and Okinawa groups of the Ryukyus, the Northern Marianas, Micronesia, the Marshall Islands, Wake Island, the Hawaiian islands, Vancouver Island, Washington and Oregon west of the Cascades and California west of the Sierra Nevada as far south as Carlsbad)

Almost all of the land outside of China has been taken.

It is never true that someone has to fight most members of a population. For a start, most of the population is either too young or too old to fight. Then, the majority is untrained in the use of percussion rifles, and won't stand for a minute to face a regimented enemy volley. They would have to resort to guerrilla tactics, but that generally only has a nuisance factor, and won't beat an actual field army.



Then there is the fact that a population is never that unified about anything. Every nation has a myriad of political opinions, and some might not even object to foreign intervention if it is for the right reasons. Most people are not willing to fight and die for a cause, especially not when that cause seems lost.

That' s not the intention of the tactic, is he willing to wage a muli-year long guerrilla campaign against what seems like the hwo population?

The point of arming the people is to scare him in to thinking that hes fighting a force much larger then his own. I dont need them to fight like an army, nor stand up against a regimental barrage, that's what I have the regulars for. But how do you think his troops are going to respond when they manage to break in to Havana and find that their getting shot at from every window and door by civilian?

Well, then we get the question: how does any country ever get annexed?

[Asardia]

You know what, scratch my previous China app, I found something a bit more flavorful than a cookie-cutter RL Qing China

NS Name: Jade Confederacy
Nation Name: Taiping Heavenly Kingdom
Capital City: Tianjing (Nanjing)
Territory:

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Government type: Absolute Theocratic Monarchy
Head of State: Taiping Heavenly King (Hong Tianguifu)
Head of Government: ^
Population: 350 million
Religion: Christianity (God Worshippers), Buddism, Islam, Local Folk Religions
Army:
- Reformed Armies [32,000]
- Heavenly Armies of China [1.8 million]

Navy:
- Norethern Fleet [ 2 battleships, 6 armoured crusiers, 22 gunboats]
- Eastern Fleet [2 armoured crusiers, 2 ironclads, 10 gunboats]
- Southern Fleet [ 2 armoured cruisers, 8 tropedo boats, 18 gunboats]

History:
The Taiping Heavenly Kingdom was declared in the city of Nanjing, now renamed Tianjing, by Hong Xiuquan in 1854. Hong Xiuquan proclaimed himself the brother of Jesus and claims to have been given a holy mandate by God himself to throw down the corrupt Qing government and reform Chinese society beginning with the equal redistribution of land and the cleaning of old customs. The Taiping Rebellion gained much momentum during its first years as its ranks swelled with Qing army defectors and peasants inticed by land reform. The Qing forces unsuccessfully besieged the Taiping capital of Tianjing and the rebellion spread until much of southern China fell under Taiping control. It was during this time that the Taiping government instituted a military-first policy that saw much of its resources devoted to the procurement of arms and the raising new armies. Despite its tumultuous founding and the lack of cooperation from Western powers, the Taiping forces proved more than a match for its Qing counterparts due to early instituted reforms and better overall morale. After nearly a decade of continuous fighting, one of the three remaining Qing generals was successfully bribed and defected to Hong Xiuquan's cause leading to the capture of Beijing and the capitulation of remaining Qing forces. Even after the defeat of the Qing forces, the civil war continued for another two years as some of Hong Xiuquan's lieutenants attempted to initiate a palace coup or establish Kingdoms for themselves. All fighting ceased in the fall of 1866 with all remaining rebels and remeant Qing forces either captured, killed or exiled abroad but sporadic purges of the Heavenly Court in Tianjing continued for another half decades until Hong Xiuquan was the undisputed sovereign of all China.

As the Heavenly King of China, Hong Xiuquan instituted agrarian reforms that saw the redistribution of farmland primarily in favor of those who supported him in the overthrow of the Qing government.
He also retained the military-first policy that saw the creation of modern and well equipped Reformed armies as opposed to the bulk of Taiping forces which still relied on outdated weaponry and doctrines. Hong Xiuquan died in 1871 and his son Hong Tianguifu was proclaimed the second Heavenly King. Not as radical as his father, Hong Tianguifu relaxed previous proclamations regarding the forceful conversion of Chinese subjects to God Worship and sought rapprochement with European Churches and to mend ties with European Powers which was all but severed in the aftermath of the revolution. Hong Tianguifu began the laborious process of rebuilding parts of the country that was ravaged by civil war and decades of banditry. He also sought to modernize the Chinese economy by instituting capitalist reforms and fund the construction of railways. He funded much of the reconstruction and modernization process through the auctioning of confiscated land and the export of raw materials to the industrialized nations of Europe.

Accepted

NS Name: South Caleblan
Nation Name: Naples Empire
Capital City: Napoli
Territory: Southern Part of Italy, Cote D'Ivore, Ghana, Western Sahara, Benin, and Zambia
Government type (Republic, Monarchy etc): Empire
Head of State: Emperor Berto IV
Head of Government: Prime Minister Harry Zema
Population: 109.178.899
Religion: Christianity
Army: Consist 19 million active troops and 890.982 reserve forces
Navy: 5 frigates, 569 battleships, and 67 troops carrier
History (choose a point of origin to start from): The 1700s when the Naples declared its independence from Italy. After the independence, Naples began to established their own colonial empire in late 1789. Their first colony was Zambia and Western Sahara and later spread across Africa. They've tried to invade Madagascar, but ultimately failed because of the storm.
Additional Info: If this is not available or the location is currently has been already claimed i will change the app and the RP nation

Your army and navy is ridiculously large. A totally unified Italy by World War One didn't even have 19 million soldiers. There is no reason for your navy to eclipse the British Royal Navy by hundreds of battleships. Also, Italy didn't become unified until about 1871.

Updated the map. I think i got everyone whose accepted.

https://image.ibb.co/dUPu9o/RP_MAp.png

Patch Notes 6.23.18
Added Egyptian Empire
Added República Federal de Cuba
Added The United States of America
Patch Notes 6.23.18.2
Added North Italian Federation (missed in first batch)
Patch Notes 6.24.18
Added Ethiopian Empire
Added The Vodun Horde

Map will be updated

[Parcia]

Indeed, Death is a Preferable alternative to Communism.

As for annexation, I understand that.

But im going to make it so he pays for every inch of land with blood and bodies.

If He takes Cuba, but looses a large amount of his army doing so, his grip on both Cuba and the likely civil unrest in his own country will make it hell to keep them both down, thus leading the way to either a massive civil revolt, and a second revolution against the "Haitian Invaders" all the same they did with the Spanish.

[Konigreiches Bayern]

Indeed, Death is a Preferable alternative to Communism.

As for annexation, I understand that.

But im going to make it so he pays for every inch of land with blood and bodies.

If He takes Cuba, but looses a large amount of his army doing so, his grip on both Cuba and the likely civil unrest in his own country will make it hell to keep them both down, thus leading the way to either a massive civil revolt, and a second revolution against the "Haitian Invaders" all the same they did with the Spanish.

Remember, we use a mixture of Soviet and Napoleonic French doctrine with a few West African traditions mixed in.

If we want to, we can raze villages, bring massacres and war crimes on a scale that only the WWII Axis could dwarf, call it 'collateral damage' or 'insurgency response' and then go back to performing voodoo while smoking YOUR cigars.

We did it with the Dominicans, and we can do it with Cuba too. Just be more cautious with it; a little appeasement here and there with the USA and controlled media will help.

Plus, are you denying that there will be ANYONE in your nation who supports the idea of socialism?

[Parcia]

Alright, go ahead, come on.

Cuba is already in a war time state, we just kicked the Spaniards out and took their shit. If I have to add another 10,000 Militiamen to my army, train them up to regular status, and reinforce the "Fortress Havana" then Ill bloody well do it.

All with American cannon and British Rifles.

IF you gonna talk shit, Cabron better back it up.

[Senkaku]

App is a WIP

NS Name: Senkaku
Nation Name: Islamic Republic of Eastern Wu
Capital City: Jianye (modern Nanjing)
Territory: These regions, plus Taiwan, Hainan, Luzon, the Yaeyama, Miyako, and Okinawa groups of the Ryukyus, the Northern Marianas, Micronesia, and the Marshall Islands, Wake Island and the Hawaiian Islands, Vancouver Island, the coast of BC as far north as Prince Rupert and the Fraser River valley, modern Washington and Oregon west of the Cascade range, California west of the Sierra Nevada as far south as Carlsbad
Government type: Oligarchy with theocratic inclinations
Head of State: Chairman of the Council of State Lin Pushen
Head of Government: See "Head of State"
Population: WIP- need to look thru Populstat for China's southern provinces
Religion: Islam
Army: WIP- need to look at population data to determine acceptable numerical value (off the top of my head I'd est. 250M)
- Black Flag Army
- Green Flag Army
- Grand Army of the Prophet
- Islamic Revolutionary Guard

Navy:
- Yangtze Fleet [ 2 battleships, 4 armored cruisers, 21 destroyers, frigates, avisos, and gunboats of various classes, 19 torpedo boats, various and sundry junks]
- Amoy Fleet [1 armored cruiser, 10 destroyers, frigates, avisos, and gunboats of various classes, 12 torpedo boats, various and sundry junks]
- Pearl Fleet [ 2 armored cruisers, 14 destroyers, frigates, avisos, and gunboats of various classes, 13 torpedo boats, various and sundry junks]
- Okinawa Fleet [5 avisos, 2 torpedo boats, various and sundry junks]
- Hawaii Fleet [2 avisos, 2 torpedo boats, various and sundry junks]
-Jinshan Fleet [1 armored cruiser, 6 destroyers, frigates, avisos, and gunboats of various classes, 9 torpedo boats, various and sundry junks]

History:
The Sima clan is defeated at the Incident at the Gaoping Tombs, meaning they never seize control of Northern Wei and lead it to conquer Shu Han and Eastern Wu and end the Three Kingdoms period under the Jin dynasty. Continued intense warfare between the Three Kingdoms continues for another century and a half before the stalemate stabilizes somewhat, with China cloven in three. While the other two states embark on their own journeys through history, Eastern Wu stabilizes under the Sun dynasty- until the introduction of Islam to the region, at first by an embassy from the Caliph Uthman in 651. By this point, the Sun dynasty was somewhat aged and decrepit, and the arrival of Arab and Persian merchants bringing Islam with them proved incendiary to the highly stratified social classes of Eastern Wu. This was a particular problem in the south, around Nanhai (modern Guangzhou) and the Yangtze river delta near the capital, where the traders and missionaries were most active and thus found the most converts. In 705, Muslim rebels around Nanhai rebelled against the Sun dynasty, aided by some Arab merchants, missionaries, and diplomats. When word of the violence reached the capital, Muslims in the Yangtze delta region also rebelled. The Sun court was eventually forced to retreat to Fujian in 709 after a string of defeats, where the new faith had less of a following, and fought a twenty-year campaign from its new seat in Quanzhou to try and suppress the rebels. The rebels initially made more gains, supported by a small Arab force sent by the caliphate by ship to Nanhai, but the caliphate's internal struggles and the unwillingness of the Chinese Muslims to submit to a foreign ruler led to fractures in rebel forces that were exploited by the Sun dynasty, which retook Jianye in 724. Ultimately, however, the campaign failed when the young prince Sun Yi converted to Islam and defected in 726, with several rebel sects deciding to support him as Caliph of China. Sun Yi, bolstered by further defections from the Sun army, court, and imperial family, successfully united the country and finally defeated his great-uncle, the Emperor, in 729, beginning the Sun era of the Wu Caliphate.

However, fighting continued throughout the central part of the country in the mountainous regions of Fujian even into the 800s, as people there who had not converted and had fought for the Sun dynasty resisted the advance of Islam into their communities, and also in the border regions as the interventions of other Chinese states into the civil war were wrapped up. By 820, however, the country was largely pacified, and a golden age of peace and prosperity came to the realm. During this time, Wu merchants voyaged widely across the South China Sea and into the ports of the southern islands and Indochina, establishing commercial outposts across Southeast Asia. Muslim proselytizing across Eastern and Southern Asia took off during this time as the Wu Caliphate grew stronger.

-internal problems continue
-colonization of the SCS and later the Pacific and Cali/PNW
-internal problems continue to continue
-war with the Japs or smthn idk
-internal issues continue to continue to continue

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[Konigreiches Bayern]

Alright, go ahead, come on.

Cuba is already in a war time state, we just kicked the Spaniards out and took their shit. If I have to add another 10,000 Militiamen to my army, train them up to regular status, and reinforce the "Fortress Havana" then Ill bloody well do it.

All with American cannon and British Rifles.

IF you gonna talk shit, Cabron better back it up.

30,000 infantry, 10,000 cavalry and 5,000 artillery, primed and ready, my friend.

Actually, maybe if I think about it, we might not even have to invade you. Just send down a missionary to peacefully preach communism until we gain enough sympathy from your nationals to form their own Castro-style communist state that we can work with until we vassalize it.

Though invasion is a plan B if that goes wrong, so you better watch out, bouzen lari.

[Frisbeeteria]

App is a WIP

App is a WIP
NS Name: Senkaku
Nation Name: Islamic Republic of Eastern Wu
Capital City: Jianye (modern Nanjing)
Territory: These regions, plus Taiwan, Hainan, Luzon, the Yaeyama, Miyako, and Okinawa groups of the Ryukyus, the Northern Marianas, Micronesia, and the Marshall Islands, Wake Island and the Hawaiian Islands, Vancouver Island, the coast of BC as far north as Prince Rupert and the Fraser River valley, modern Washington and Oregon west of the Cascade range, California west of the Sierra Nevada as far south as Carlsbad
Government type: Oligarchy with theocratic inclinations
Head of State: Chairman of the Council of State Lin Pushen
Head of Government: See "Head of State"
Population: WIP- need to look thru Populstat for China's southern provinces
Religion: Islam
Army: WIP- need to look at population data to determine acceptable numerical value
- Black Flag Army
- Green Flag Army
- Grand Army of the Prophet
- Islamic Revolutionary Guard

Navy:
- Yangtze Fleet [ 2 battleships, 4 armored cruisers, 26 destroyers, frigates, avisos, and gunboats of various classes, 19 torpedo boats, various and sundry junks]
- Amoy Fleet [1 armored cruiser, 10 destroyers, frigates, avisos, and gunboats of various classes, 12 torpedo boats, various and sundry junks]
- Pearl Fleet [ 2 armored cruisers, 14 destroyers, frigates, avisos, and gunboats of various classes, 13 torpedo boats, various and sundry junks]
- Okinawa Fleet [5 avisos, 2 torpedo boats, various and sundry junks]
- Hawaii Fleet [2 avisos, 2 torpedo boats, various and sundry junks]
-Jinshan Fleet [1 armored cruiser, 6 destroyers, frigates, avisos, and gunboats of various classes, 9 torpedo boats, various and sundry junks]

History:
The Sima clan is defeated at the Incident at the Gaoping Tombs, meaning they never seize control of Northern Wei and lead it to conquer Shu Han and Eastern Wu and end the Three Kingdoms period under the Jin dynasty. Continued intense warfare between the Three Kingdoms continues for another century and a half before the stalemate stabilizes somewhat, with China cloven in three. While the other two states embark on their own journeys through history, Eastern Wu stabilizes under the Sun dynasty- until the introduction of Islam to the region, at first by an embassy from the Caliph Uthman in 651. By this point, the Sun dynasty was somewhat aged and decrepit, and the arrival of Arab and Persian merchants bringing Islam with them proved incendiary to the highly stratified social classes of Eastern Wu. This was a particular problem in the south, around Nanhai (modern Guangzhou) and the Yangtze river delta near the capital, where the traders and missionaries were most active and thus found the most converts. In 705, Muslim rebels around Nanhai rebelled against the Sun dynasty, aided by some Arab merchants, missionaries, and diplomats. When word of the violence reached the capital, Muslims in the Yangtze delta region also rebelled. The Sun court was eventually forced to retreat to Fujian in 709 after a string of defeats, where the new faith had less of a following, and fought a twenty-year campaign from its new seat in Quanzhou to try and suppress the rebels. The rebels initially made more gains, supported by a small Arab force sent by the caliphate by ship to Nanhai, but the caliphate's internal struggles and the unwillingness of the Chinese Muslims to submit to a foreign ruler led to fractures in rebel forces that were exploited by the Sun dynasty, which retook Jianye in 724. Ultimately, however, the campaign failed when the young prince Sun Yi converted to Islam and defected, with several rebel sects deciding to support him as Caliph of China.

-internal problems continue
-colonization of the SCS and later the Pacific and Cali/PNW
-internal problems continue to continue
-war with the Japs or smthn idk
-internal issues continue to continue to continue

I am willing to share China but we have the same capitals and core territories so that won't work.

[Parcia]

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Aint mean jack if your Navy aint up to the task, this aint 1940s, you can para-drop shit, you gotta transport it by sea.

And I caa do alot with Cutters, my man.

[Konigreiches Bayern]

Aint mean jack if your Navy aint up to the task, this aint 1940s, you can para-drop shit, you gotta transport it by sea.

And I caa do alot with Cutters, my man.

We can do that. 6 gunboats vs. 6 other gunboats, an iron corvette, 2 frigates and a couple of steel sloops should fare well.

But before we talk of violence, we still can just gain sympathy, call your people friends and not enemies, convince them to join our union of communist states where everyone shall be equal and have an opportunity to bring greatness to their nation and ours under an EKR, and be themselves while also being part of us, for in a communist union an ethnic identity is not what we want, but a national one, that being not Cuban nor Haitian, but Etizani.

"Ou we sa ou genyen, ou pa konn sa ou rete." It means "You know what you've got, but you don't know what's coming."

[The Valyria Empire]

NS Name: The Valyria Empire (Val)
Nation Name: The Byzantine Empire (Eastern Roman Empire)
Capital City: Constantinople
Territory: Link (I realize this clashes with Egypt, but as I did claim all traditional Ottoman land before him and I am willing compromise. I just want the holy lands and Crete. Everything else he can have.)
Government type (Republic, Monarchy etc): Constitutional Monarchy
Head of State: Constantine XIX Palaiologos
Head of Government: Ioannis Kolettis
Population: 32,350,000
Religion: Greek Orthodox (State Religion), Sunni
Army:

• 20,350 active troops, 12,350 reserve
• The Varangian Guard-6,000

Navy: 21 Battleships and 173 other types of ships
History (choose a point of origin to start from): (The History of Byzantium is the same until 1452)

• 1452-Byzantium gains an alliance with Poland, and Hungary thus giving them the needed supplies for the incoming battle.
• 1453-Battle of Constantinople-The Ottomans decided to end Byzantine reign, however with the help of Hungary, and Poland they were able to push back the Ottomans thus keeping the Queen of Cities safe.
• 1456-The Ottomans are finally pushed out of the Balkans.
• 1460-The Ottomans are finally eraticaded, with Byzantium regaining Anatolia.
• 1470-Byzantium retakes the Greek islands from Venice with the help of Austria.
• 1500-The Anti-Unionist Civil War erupts between those wishing to mend the schism between the Catholic and the Orthodox churches. The civil war goes on for three wars before a anti-unionist victory is secured. It would take several more years before Byzantium could continue their expansion.
• 1520-Byzantium retakes Antioch.
• 1523-The Theme System is reestablished.
• 1532-The Great Migration occurs, in which Greeks are encouraged to move into Anatolia.
• 1540-Byzantium retakes the Holy Lands for Christendom.
• 1546-Byzantium loses the Holy Lands.
• 1558-Byzantium retakes the Holy Lands, once more.
• 1570-Byzantium sacks Medina and Mecca. This results in a great hatred between Middle Eastern nations and Byzantium. This makes complete conquest of the Arabian Pennisula impossible.
• 1601 to 1700-A state of peace occurs for Byzantium, however many Islamic uprisings occur in that time. Several reforms occur at this to help them catch up with the growing western powers and Russia
• 1701 to 1708-The Peasant Uprising occurs with many of the lower class rising up and killing many of their lords. The bloodiest civil war in Byzantine history, with almost a quarter of the population dying. The government sells Cyprus to Britain for support. This results in a government reform, ending the absolute monarchy that was seen in Byzantium for many years. A constitutional monarchy is established in its place.
• 1829- The largest warship ever built, the Justinian is completed at the Golden Horn. This ship would continue to be the largest ship built for several more years.
• 1844-Byzantium finally finishes westernization, with many people gaining more civil rights however people have begun to question the government. There are some who wish to restore the absolute monarchy, while others wish to be like their brothers-in-fate in Russia and become a republic.

Additional Info: Byzantium like the Ottomans of our timeline are slowly falling behind. They were able to catch up with the western powers, but are no where able to support a colonial empire.

Finished. I had planned on finishing it last night but it was so late by that point. Also holy cow Parcia, you need to fix your post. You broke the format.

[Konigreiches Bayern]

NS Name: The Valyria Empire (Val)
Nation Name: The Byzantine Empire (Eastern Roman Empire)
Capital City: Constantinople
Territory: Link (I realize this clashes with Egypt, but as I did claim all traditional Ottoman land before him and I am willing compromise. I just want the holy lands and Crete. Everything else he can have.)
Government type (Republic, Monarchy etc): Constitutional Monarchy
Head of State: Constantine XIX Palaiologos
Head of Government: Ioannis Kolettis
Population: 32,350,000
Religion: Greek Orthodox (State Religion), Sunni
Army:

• 20,350 active troops, 12,350 reserve
• The Varangian Guard-6,000

Navy: 21 Battleships and 173 other types of ships
History (choose a point of origin to start from): (The History of Byzantium is the same until 1452)

• 1452-Byzantium gains an alliance with Poland, and Hungary thus giving them the needed supplies for the incoming battle.
• 1453-Battle of Constantinople-The Ottomans decided to end Byzantine reign, however with the help of Hungary, and Poland they were able to push back the Ottomans thus keeping the Queen of Cities safe.
• 1456-The Ottomans are finally pushed out of the Balkans.
• 1460-The Ottomans are finally eraticaded, with Byzantium regaining Anatolia.
• 1470-Byzantium retakes the Greek islands from Venice with the help of Austria.
• 1500-The Anti-Unionist Civil War erupts between those wishing to mend the schism between the Catholic and the Orthodox churches. The civil war goes on for three wars before a anti-unionist victory is secured. It would take several more years before Byzantium could continue their expansion.
• 1520-Byzantium retakes Antioch.
• 1523-The Theme System is reestablished.
• 1532-The Great Migration occurs, in which Greeks are encouraged to move into Anatolia.
• 1540-Byzantium retakes the Holy Lands for Christendom.
• 1546-Byzantium loses the Holy Lands.
• 1558-Byzantium retakes the Holy Lands, once more.
• 1570-Byzantium sacks Medina and Mecca. This results in a great hatred between Middle Eastern nations and Byzantium. This makes complete conquest of the Arabian Pennisula impossible.
• 1601 to 1700-A state of peace occurs for Byzantium, however many Islamic uprisings occur in that time. Several reforms occur at this to help them catch up with the growing western powers and Russia
• 1701 to 1708-The Peasant Uprising occurs with many of the lower class rising up and killing many of their lords. The bloodiest civil war in Byzantine history, with almost a quarter of the population dying. The government sells Cyprus to Britain for support. This results in a government reform, ending the absolute monarchy that was seen in Byzantium for many years. A constitutional monarchy is established in its place.
• 1829- The largest warship ever built, the Justinian is completed at the Golden Horn. This ship would continue to be the largest ship built for several more years.
• 1844-Byzantium finally finishes westernization, with many people gaining more civil rights however people have begun to question the government. There are some who wish to restore the absolute monarchy, while others wish to be like their brothers-in-fate in Russia and become a republic.

Additional Info: Byzantium like the Ottomans of our timeline are slowly falling behind. They were able to catch up with the western powers, but are no where able to support a colonial empire.

Finished. I had planned on finishing it last night but it was so late by that point. Also holy cow Parcia, you need to fix your post. You broke the format.

I thought I was the only one who had that problem.

TIL when you piss off a Cuban he will literally break the thread.


but srsly who would win between nationalistic Hispanic cigar people vs. a bunch of funny pinko voodoo witch doctors

[Konigreiches Bayern]

I'd be surprised if the US supported communists. (This is alt-history though so maybe it's not has big has a boogeyman)

Godless Commies need to be eradicated.

So that's a no to supporting or at least not intervening the Cuban conquest...?

[Parcia]

Rather, simple, easy.

Gunboat vs Gunboats can be decided with better gunnery and tactics.

The frigates, oohhhh how im going to have fun with them.


Also, you keep throwing Voodoo around, yet you forget about Santeria.


And should the US intervene, i think it would be to stop the Cubans being subjugated by the Godless Commies of Haiti.

And no, there is little to no Socialist sentiment, as 94% or so of the population support the "Democratic Revolutionary Party" and its core tenants of liberty, Life, and the Pursuit of Happiness.

Also, Britain, im willing to post a royal navy unit in Cuba...as well as an American unit.

[Novas Arcanum]

Wow this format is atrocious

[Parcia]

Wow this format is atrocious

Give it until midnight when the servers refresh and it will fix it self.

Also, is Russia willing to sell me Berdan rifles?

[Asardia]

NS Name: The Valyria Empire (Val)
Nation Name: The Byzantine Empire (Eastern Roman Empire)
Capital City: Constantinople
Territory: Link (I realize this clashes with Egypt, but as I did claim all traditional Ottoman land before him and I am willing compromise. I just want the holy lands and Crete. Everything else he can have.)
Government type (Republic, Monarchy etc): Constitutional Monarchy
Head of State: Constantine XIX Palaiologos
Head of Government: Ioannis Kolettis
Population: 32,350,000
Religion: Greek Orthodox (State Religion), Sunni
Army:

• 20,350 active troops, 12,350 reserve
• The Varangian Guard-6,000

Navy: 21 Battleships and 173 other types of ships
History (choose a point of origin to start from): (The History of Byzantium is the same until 1452)

• 1452-Byzantium gains an alliance with Poland, and Hungary thus giving them the needed supplies for the incoming battle.
• 1453-Battle of Constantinople-The Ottomans decided to end Byzantine reign, however with the help of Hungary, and Poland they were able to push back the Ottomans thus keeping the Queen of Cities safe.
• 1456-The Ottomans are finally pushed out of the Balkans.
• 1460-The Ottomans are finally eraticaded, with Byzantium regaining Anatolia.
• 1470-Byzantium retakes the Greek islands from Venice with the help of Austria.
• 1500-The Anti-Unionist Civil War erupts between those wishing to mend the schism between the Catholic and the Orthodox churches. The civil war goes on for three wars before a anti-unionist victory is secured. It would take several more years before Byzantium could continue their expansion.
• 1520-Byzantium retakes Antioch.
• 1523-The Theme System is reestablished.
• 1532-The Great Migration occurs, in which Greeks are encouraged to move into Anatolia.
• 1540-Byzantium retakes the Holy Lands for Christendom.
• 1546-Byzantium loses the Holy Lands.
• 1558-Byzantium retakes the Holy Lands, once more.
• 1570-Byzantium sacks Medina and Mecca. This results in a great hatred between Middle Eastern nations and Byzantium. This makes complete conquest of the Arabian Pennisula impossible.
• 1601 to 1700-A state of peace occurs for Byzantium, however many Islamic uprisings occur in that time. Several reforms occur at this to help them catch up with the growing western powers and Russia
• 1701 to 1708-The Peasant Uprising occurs with many of the lower class rising up and killing many of their lords. The bloodiest civil war in Byzantine history, with almost a quarter of the population dying. The government sells Cyprus to Britain for support. This results in a government reform, ending the absolute monarchy that was seen in Byzantium for many years. A constitutional monarchy is established in its place.
• 1829- The largest warship ever built, the Justinian is completed at the Golden Horn. This ship would continue to be the largest ship built for several more years.
• 1844-Byzantium finally finishes westernization, with many people gaining more civil rights however people have begun to question the government. There are some who wish to restore the absolute monarchy, while others wish to be like their brothers-in-fate in Russia and become a republic.

Additional Info: Byzantium like the Ottomans of our timeline are slowly falling behind. They were able to catch up with the western powers, but are no where able to support a colonial empire.

Finished. I had planned on finishing it last night but it was so late by that point. Also holy cow Parcia, you need to fix your post. You broke the format.

Accepted.

Wow this format is atrocious

I reported it in the Broken Thread Megathread

[Bruke]

Finished. I had planned on finishing it last night but it was so late by that point. Also holy cow Parcia, you need to fix your post. You broke the format.

Accepted.

Wow this format is atrocious

I reported it in the Broken Thread Megathread

Does this mean he gets the Holy Land?

[Parcia]

Oh, wait, Spain Adopted the Berdan rifles...

*rings hands.*


So im thinking 3,000 or so regular infantry actively deployed.
Standard issued arm is the British Made Martini-Henry rifle, Bayonet, mess gear, 25 rounds of ammo, and a side arm, yes, I give the infantry a side arm.

So, Martini Henry and Colt SSA in .45 colt.

Sharp shooters are issued a Sharps rifle with what is equal to a 2.3x fixed post sight, SSA or similar revolver, bayonet, mess kit, flare gun.
Certain special units are given a Spanish conversion of the Russsian Berdan rifle.

Territorial Cuban Troops, roughly 10-11,000 or so, are mostly armed with second hand Winchester 1876 rifles, in its express cartridge, and carry a motly assortment of side arms and secondary weapons, with sawed off Coach gun style Shotguns being common, as are short, cutlass style blades for both hacking away plants, and enemy soldiers. Mind you, these aran't poorly trained and armed Militiamen, these are trained, equipped, and experienced troops who faced down Imperial Spanish and loyalist Regiments only a few months prior.

[Ralnis]

For rebel numbers, I was thinking around 25-40,000 in South Africa with 10-15,000 in other East African colonies.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Godless Commies need to be eradicated.

So that's a no to supporting or at least not intervening the Cuban conquest...?

We are here to protect the status quo. We do not even recognise the Haitian government at this stage.


As for the dick measuring contest... Guys, you know this is all made up, right? This is not a computer game, none of us have worked for the numbers we have. We just made them up, or made them up based on research. This means that being powerful isn't actually an achievement. If anything, if you made yourself really powerful, that just means you don't understand what we are doing here. We are engaged in a literary game. The game isn't in the fighting or the wars, but in writing about those things. Creating a fun narrative. Painting the map your colour is fun in EU IV, but here... Here we can get into the nitty gritty details of occupation, political struggle, riots, societal change.

So please, stop trying to one-up one another. You are both the two smallest countries on earth. In the late 19th century, that means none of you are going to create enormous empires, and your wars against one another will be viewed as largely inconsequential. Either one of you occupying the other is going to take enormous resources. Again, if you are trying to win, you are doing this whole thing wrong.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Rather, simple, easy.

Gunboat vs Gunboats can be decided with better gunnery and tactics.

The frigates, oohhhh how im going to have fun with them.


Also, you keep throwing Voodoo around, yet you forget about Santeria.


And should the US intervene, i think it would be to stop the Cubans being subjugated by the Godless Commies of Haiti.

And no, there is little to no Socialist sentiment, as 94% or so of the population support the "Democratic Revolutionary Party" and its core tenants of liberty, Life, and the Pursuit of Happiness.

Also, Britain, im willing to post a royal navy unit in Cuba...as well as an American unit.

94% is a really high number for any party. Those are numbers usually reserved for fraudulent studies. The thing is, if a population is that united, they are going to argue about the little things. Like, for example, in the USSR, where the only party was the communist party. Even there, there were academic differences between the various forms of communism. That is what happens when a nation is united. Or take the US. In 1880, everyone supported the ideas of life, liberty, and pursuit if happiness. There were just heavy differences about what that means. Ina post-revolutionary society, there are going to be revanchists and reconcilers. I suggest trying to implement that.

[South Caleblan]

Territory: Southern Part of Italy, Cote D'Ivore, Ghana, Western Sahara, Benin, and Zambia

Okay i have to point out a few things about your claims. Cote D'Ivore and Benin are already taken by the Vodun Horde and Zambia is both taken by Great Britain and landlocked. However, Southern Italy and Western Sahara are both good to go.

NO PROBLEM AT ALL MATE!